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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10 (Read 854331 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html
It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: Northern Rose on June 12, 2010, 06:19:57 PM
Mama di Joran Van Der Sloot na ta Aruba, no na Peru
Publication: Diasabra, 12 Juni 2010. Categoria: General
Contrario na loke mayoria hende ta pensa
RANJESTAD (AAN): Tur hende ta kere cu Anita van der Sloot, mama di Joran, ta na Peru na e momentonan aki pa atende cu e situacion di su yiu homber mayor.
Esaki no ta e caso. DIARIO a constata cu Anita van der Sloot ta na Aruba y diahuebs anochi por a mire den Ballroom di Marriot Hotel durante e Bollywood Night, cual tabata un fiesta special organiza den cuadro di e Aruba International Film Festival.
Anita van der Sloot tabata acompaña pa su otro dos yiu y tabata cana normal entre esnan presente.
Loke tambe por a ripara ta cu practicamente prensa presente a acerca Anita pa puntre riba e situacion di su yiu Joran cual ta noticia tur dia na nivel local como internacional.
Den medionan stranhero, corant, radio y television tur dia tin “breaking news” relaciona cu e caso di Joran van der Sloot. Sinembargo, e hecho cu Anita van der Sloot ta na Aruba y no na Peru por ta un indicacion cu e famia mes a dicidi di cera nan curazon apesar di tur locual ta pasando rond di nan.
Loke a pasa cu Natalee Holloway y loke a pasa na Peru ta mucho hopi. Ta yega un momento cu un famia cu a pasa loke e famia aki a pasa den e ultimo cinco añanan, cu nan mester para fuerte riba nan zapato pa sigui cu nan bida. Joran a scoge su destino y esey ta algo cu nan mes no por a dicidi riba dje.
Tin indicacion si cu prensa stranhero, esnan cu ta cubriendo e caso aki y cu ta na Aruba, ta busca manera pa haya Anita van der Sloot su declaracion pero nan no kier papia nada. E hecho cu Sra. Van der Sloot no a bay Peru tambe por ta tin di haber cu e no kier bay expone su mes na opinion publico internacional y na e presion cu esaki lo nifica pe.
Riba potret por aprecia Anita van der Sloot kende tabata presente durante e Bollywood Night den compania di su yiunan.
http://www.diario.aw/2010/06/mama-di-joran-van-der-sloot-na-ta-aruba-no-na-peru/
I suspect that Anita is nearing a breakdown. The above image tells me that she no longer has the strength to uphold her diabolical son. The five year facade is about to end and ... it was all for naught.
Anita was never in denial. It was all about "protecting" Joran from the consequences of his actions. To H--- with Natalee. To H---- with Natalee's family.
Five years ago ... if the entire ugly truth had been forthcoming ... as a minor the consequences would have been dealt with by now ... lessons regarding accountability would have been learn ... justice would have prevailed for Natalee ... a family would have been afforded a measure of closure as their loved one rested on American soil and ... the Natalee Holloway story would now be a distance memory.
Anita ... you blew it big time. I pity you.
Janet
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: brerlee on June 12, 2010, 07:02:16 PM
Just a thought, but I suddenly remembered that Beth had given Natalee a number of one dollar bills for her Aruba trip. Does anyone remember how many? Was it 100 dollars worth?
The reason I'm asking is that Joran might have killed Stephany for her money, and I'm now wondering if money might have been a factor for Joran to target Natalee. Suppose, if Natalee had the dollar bills either rolled up together (in a gambler's roll) or in a billfold, and if Joran saw it when they were at the Casino, then Joran might have mistaken the bills to be a big wad of money (not realizing that they were all ones).
Then either Joran wanted to rob Natalee, or it is possible he could have exploded into violence when he found out he had drugged her for only a roll of ones.
Just something to maybe consider.
Good points.
I believe:
Natalee -
1st intention was sex. Wanted to have a little video to upload to his sadistic website and maybe make some money off it, after.
Stephany -
Money - he was at the end of his rope.
1. Lust
2. Greed
Hang him, Peru.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: texasmom on June 12, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html
It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.
It's 10 pages, PDF and it's working for me. When I'm done I'll put in images and post.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on June 12, 2010, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: texasmom on June 12, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html
It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.
It's 10 pages, PDF and it's working for me. When I'm done I'll put in images and post.
Thanks, Klaas.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: wreck on June 12, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
This may anger some -- but, I don't want Joran stepping one foot out of prison in Peru even if it was 100% guranteed it would bring Natalee home. He has to pay for Stephany.
That said, I think we will find Natalee without his help. Someone will finally spill the beans.
I completely agree with you, Wreck! No interviews, no visits, no attention at all for that psycho murdering s.o.b. Let him rot in the Peruvian prison. I hope the judges do give him 35 years and if he lasts then we'll deal with him again when he gets out, until then he should cease to exist to the rest of the world.
There ARE others in (and from) Aruba that can tell the truth about Natalee and where she is. Natalee deserves to come home to rest and her family deserves to know the truth.
One of the cowards that was paid off or threatened or even volunteered to keep quiet all these years needs to finally grow a pair and step forward.
Clyde Burke - are you listening????
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 12, 2010, 06:35:42 PM
Quote from: wreck on June 12, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
This may anger some -- but, I don't want Joran stepping one foot out of prison in Peru even if it was 100% guranteed it would bring Natalee home. He has to pay for Stephany.
That said, I think we will find Natalee without his help. Someone will finally spill the beans.
Wreck ... I agree 100%.
I have prayed that Aruban justice would prevail for Natalee. I have prayed that Natalee's parents would be afforded the opportunity to bring their precious dauther home. However ... the writing is on the wall in regards to an early release if allowed to serve his time in Aruba/Holland ... an early release which would put other Stephanys and Natalees at risk.
Janet
I agree 100 percent with you.I hope Joran stays right where he is.Locked away and not hurting anyone else...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: texasmom on June 12, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html
It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.
JA
We need you!!
Janet
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THE CONFESSION
http://www.24ora.com/images/stories/news/2010/juni/juni12/confecionjoranperu.pdf
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on June 12, 2010, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: texasmom on June 12, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html
It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.
It's 10 pages, PDF and it's working for me. When I'm done I'll put in images and post.
Try clicking on this link
Joran vdSloot Peru Confession
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Hopefully someone that understands Spanish can tell us if anything new in it
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on June 12, 2010, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: texasmom on June 12, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html
It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.
It's 10 pages, PDF and it's working for me. When I'm done I'll put in images and post.
Yes, it's working for me too now. Thanks for posting it for us!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Perhaps Anita is just a little slut that has been asking for it?
What say you?
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For Natalee and Stephany, whatever it takes.
-JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN - BOYCOTT ARUBA
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"Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do." Thomas Jefferson
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 12, 2010, 07:16:58 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on June 12, 2010, 06:19:57 PM
Mama di Joran Van Der Sloot na ta Aruba, no na Peru
Publication: Diasabra, 12 Juni 2010. Categoria: General
Contrario na loke mayoria hende ta pensa
RANJESTAD (AAN): Tur hende ta kere cu Anita van der Sloot, mama di Joran, ta na Peru na e momentonan aki pa atende cu e situacion di su yiu homber mayor.
Esaki no ta e caso. DIARIO a constata cu Anita van der Sloot ta na Aruba y diahuebs anochi por a mire den Ballroom di Marriot Hotel durante e Bollywood Night, cual tabata un fiesta special organiza den cuadro di e Aruba International Film Festival.
Anita van der Sloot tabata acompaña pa su otro dos yiu y tabata cana normal entre esnan presente.
Loke tambe por a ripara ta cu practicamente prensa presente a acerca Anita pa puntre riba e situacion di su yiu Joran cual ta noticia tur dia na nivel local como internacional.
Den medionan stranhero, corant, radio y television tur dia tin “breaking news” relaciona cu e caso di Joran van der Sloot. Sinembargo, e hecho cu Anita van der Sloot ta na Aruba y no na Peru por ta un indicacion cu e famia mes a dicidi di cera nan curazon apesar di tur locual ta pasando rond di nan.
Loke a pasa cu Natalee Holloway y loke a pasa na Peru ta mucho hopi. Ta yega un momento cu un famia cu a pasa loke e famia aki a pasa den e ultimo cinco añanan, cu nan mester para fuerte riba nan zapato pa sigui cu nan bida. Joran a scoge su destino y esey ta algo cu nan mes no por a dicidi riba dje.
Tin indicacion si cu prensa stranhero, esnan cu ta cubriendo e caso aki y cu ta na Aruba, ta busca manera pa haya Anita van der Sloot su declaracion pero nan no kier papia nada. E hecho cu Sra. Van der Sloot no a bay Peru tambe por ta tin di haber cu e no kier bay expone su mes na opinion publico internacional y na e presion cu esaki lo nifica pe.
Riba potret por aprecia Anita van der Sloot kende tabata presente durante e Bollywood Night den compania di su yiunan.
http://www.diario.aw/2010/06/mama-di-joran-van-der-sloot-na-ta-aruba-no-na-peru/
I suspect that Anita is nearing a breakdown. The above image tells me that she no longer has the strength to uphold her diabolical son. The five year facade is about to end and ... it was all for naught.
Anita was never in denial. It was all about "protecting" Joran from the consequences of his actions. To H--- with Natalee. To H---- with Natalee's family.
Five years ago ... if the entire ugly truth had been forthcoming ... as a minor the consequences would have been dealt with by now ... lessons regarding accountability would have been learn ... justice would have prevailed for Natalee ... a family would have been afforded a measure of closure as their loved one rested on American soil and ... the Natalee Holloway story would now be a distance memory.
Anita ... you blew it big time. I pity you.
Janet
Janet, you have so nailed it! Maybe someone told her to 'act normally', after all Joran has denied his involvement in Stephany's murder, then cried out how he was 'forced' into confession, without legal support, etc., etc., then trying to negotiate giving up Natalee's burial place for consideration from NL and Aruba to get him back. Maybe she believes it, maybe ????????? Her 'love' is blind, regardless.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on June 12, 2010, 07:25:23 PM
Hopefully someone that understands Spanish can tell us if anything new in it
OH! The confession is in Spanish. It is all Dutch to me.
Janet
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Janet, thank you for answering my post earlier.
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Quote from: carpe noctem on June 12, 2010, 07:26:53 PM
Perhaps Anita is just a little slut that has been asking for it?
What say you?
Touche.
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Someone needs a better fax machine or scanner. That`s pitiful.
They might have well send those docs by donkey.
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-JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN - BOYCOTT ARUBA
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"Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do." Thomas Jefferson
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: Maggie on June 12, 2010, 07:28:42 PM
Janet, thank you for answering my post earlier.
You are welcome
Maggie.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
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Quote from: carpe noctem on June 12, 2010, 07:30:53 PM
Someone needs a better fax machine or scanner.
That`s pitiful.
They might have well send those docs by donkey.
LOL, I was thinking the same...
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: TexasRick007 on June 12, 2010, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 12, 2010, 07:26:53 PM
Perhaps Anita is just a little slut that has been asking for it?
What say you?
Touche.
The picture of anita crying made me sad. Is she crying because she lost money in the casino?
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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