Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[Lifesong]

Those bruises on her feet could have been from her trying to kick him or something.

I think sweetie heart fought to the death - just like I have always believed Natalee did.

When you`re up against 6 foot 3 Frankenstein...

A little girl can only take so much.

Especially, when it is a surprise blitz attack.

SUCKER PUNCH. From King Coward himself.

I think the bruises on the tops of her feet came from fighting to keep her jeans on.

JMO

[akmom]

I know I am not a great sleuthing monkey....... Stephany was looking around alot in the casino.   I still have to wonder, did she know about Nat and do something reckless, looking to sleuth Joran out...just makes me wonder.  God bless these girls, I know many of us did foolish things as teen young women......this gives us special pause and wonder.... could we have been in this same       position....

[Lifesong]

Hi darleen! I know! Joran looks like he needs a sombrero and a cactus with that blanket!

Carpe? The laptop will show if got that e-mail. Are we sure Mongolito is Guido? Who do you think the e-mail was from, if it's real?

Dunno CBB. I only put up that pic of Guido earlier because I think he`s a puta.

I only quoted the pic of Guido with "Mongolito"...well...because I think he is one! 

[Northern Rose]

Gringo slept on the floor afraid
 
Depressed and scared, and is Joran van der Sloot, confessed murderer of Stephany Flores (21), I will deal with in the prison "Miguel Castro Castro" and spent his first night on a mattress placed on the ground.

"He does not talk much, he surprised and fearful note. It has access to anything, sure I thought I would reach a golden prison," said one prison source.

That is why we want to be extradited to Aruba, as made known to the detectives Dirincri.

Occupying one-man cell, the punishment was previously known as the 'can' and is located in the area of prevention of the presidio.

"There's no stage, so he slept on a mattress on the floor," said our source.

Is confined to the area where the Dutchman is not accessible by the prison director and actors who care Inpe the entrance door.

"It is isolated from the wards of 'roundabout' and Sunday breakfast and lunch Quaker dry chicken," said the source.

"He ate and eat the same as the prison workers as a precaution and so far not have access to the cauldron," the source added.

Van der Sloot is the assassin neighboring Colombia or Hugo Trujillo Alejandro Ospina, 'Clown', the murderer of Miryam Fefer entrepreneur and former mayor of Coronel Portillo, Luis Valdez Villacorta.

The tortured

On the other hand, it was learned that, in its manifestation, Joran told police he attacked Stephany because she hit her head on hearing that he was involved in the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, but detectives suspect that the Dutchman would have attacked and even tortured to get the girl reveals the secret key to their bank cards in order to steal their money.

"I realized that Stephany had money, but did not know the cards, nor the exact amount, but she changed the sheets for cash before leaving the casino. After the victim, I put my cards," he said.

He added that after beating her with his elbow in the nose until it bled, he took her by the neck with both hands and strangled. For the police it was at that time abroad forced his victim to reveal the key to their cards.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-12/ontractualidad1094953.html

[klaasend]

I know I am not a great sleuthing monkey....... Stephany was looking around alot in the casino.   I still have to wonder, did she know about Nat and do something reckless, looking to sleuth Joran out...just makes me wonder.  God bless these girls, I know many of us did foolish things as teen young women......this gives us special pause and wonder.... could we have been in this same       position....

I doubt it.  I think she was very familiar with the casino and may have been looking around to see if anyone she knew (other than Joran) was there.

[Blue Moon]

And if Anita wants to redeem herself in any way, she ought to start talking now and tell everything she knows.

Anita is not going to redeem herself.  My guess is it was Anita (and Renho) who told Joran if he wanted money he could call Beth and tell her where Natalee is to earn some spending money.  Mommy cut him off moneywise, what better way to get rid of him than sic him on Beth. 

If Anita was any kind of mother/human being she would get on TV NOW and beg forgiveness for herself (to hell with her son) and publicly apologize to Beth for the torture her son has done to first Natalee and then to Beth.  THEN she needs to send her heartfelt prayers to Stephany's family.  But will she do it-Hell NO she want.  B$tch!

[carpe noctem]

Can someone point me to a video or freeze frame of Joran leaving the hostel with his tote bag?

[crazybabyborg]

I know I am not a great sleuthing monkey....... Stephany was looking around alot in the casino.   I still have to wonder, did she know about Nat and do something reckless, looking to sleuth Joran out...just makes me wonder.  God bless these girls, I know many of us did foolish things as teen young women......this gives us special pause and wonder.... could we have been in this same       position....

Hi akmom! I don't know what she knew, but I saw where someone in her family looked up Joran Van der Sloot and was shocked to read about him. Also, the singer told Casino security who he was and they had no idea. I'm guessing it was very possible for Stephany to not realize who Joran was in connection with Natalee.

[Northern Rose]

[darleenofalabama]

So, he told them he planned to disappear Stephany's body out to sea; I'll bet he disappeared Natalee's body out to sea.

[klaasend]

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=3694&offId=0

PRENSA AMERICANO TA NA ARUBA Y POR MIRA NAN TA GRABANDO REPORTAHENAN FOR DI DIFERENTE SITIO RELACIONA CU E CASO DI JORAN VAN DER SLOOT

PRENSA AMERICANO TA NA ARUBA Y POR MIRA NAN TA GRABANDO REPORTAHENAN FOR DI DIFERENTE SITIO RELACIONA CU E CASO DI JORAN VAN DER SLOOT

Den e dianan aki por mira diferente grupo di periodista na Aruba pa haci reportahenan na diferente parti na Aruba, esaki despues di cu a detene Joran van der Sloot na Chile como sospechoso di a asesina un otro hoben na Peru. Tin tur indicacion cu Joran lo bay indica unda e lo a dera e curpa di Natalee Holloway y e prensa internacional kier ta akinan pa asina cubri e hayazgo aki.

[crazybabyborg]

Carpe: It's in this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ED9Pb0cRg

[Northern Rose]

Confession Joran van der Sloot

In testimony given to the police for the murder of the young Stephany Ramirez Flores, Joran van der Sloot confessed to killing Stephany Florez in room 309 of Tac hotel he was staying.

According to the news program "90 Seconds" (Frecuencia Latina), the demonstration was given by the citizens Netherlands in the presence of counsel and with the help of a translator who helped to translate the questions from the authorities.

According to his account, he and Stephany entered his room about 5:30 am on Monday May 31 after playing in the Atlantic City casino. According to Conte, Stephany Florez occurred to him that could play online poker and so went to his room.

At that time had received an email stating "I'll kill mongolito" which are colds, the murder of Natalee Holloway, the young American who was accused of having murdered in Aruba in 2005.

Then Van der Sloot spoke to Stephany Florez on the case and told him that he had been arrested for that offense. She had a strong reaction and gave him a punch on the left side of his head. The Dutchman said he reacted with his elbow and hit her, leaving half swoon.

He also assures that the reaction of Stephany affected him while he took her by the neck with both hands and strangle for a minute.

Then Joran van de Sloot left the hotel at Florez Stephany van, but after leaving the vehicle parked in Surco, boarded a taxi that took him way to Ica and Arica. According to his testimony, both taxi drivers told them that they were wrongly accused of murdering a person.

http://www.futbolrecargado.com/2010/06/confesion-de-joran-van-der-sloot.html

[carpe noctem]

Carpe: It's in this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ED9Pb0cRg

You are the best! Thank you.

[crazybabyborg]

So, he told them he planned to disappear Stephany's body out to sea; I'll bet he disappeared Natalee's body out to sea.

My first thought too, darleen. It worked once, so he thought of it again as a way out.

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html#comments

scirbi before mariaquandt, june 12, 2010

@arubiana: 100 sharp!! we have to arise y protest contra her binimento aruba, before we the is one person nongrata!! the danjo cu the la haci y is haciendo all day at we sweet island is inacceptabel. the bay the netherlands by where the is come y her decendientenan is come. i am assure cu the have to can have the dead by her same father also upstairs her consenshi, the father her curazon not can owing to wanta all the preshon cu have to owing to soporta all day. aunque the self is complice. weg met die v/d sloot provided that diel v/d straten!!!

[klaasend]

Can someone point me to a video or freeze frame of Joran leaving the hostel with his tote bag?

Looking all over and it's on the front page of SM 

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/06/05/peruvian-police-release-hotel-security-video-of-joran-van-der-sloot-murder-victim-stephany-flores/

The AP video

[carpe noctem]

[crazybabyborg]

OK, I'm slower than you are! <grin>

[akmom]

I know I am not a great sleuthing monkey....... Stephany was looking around alot in the casino.   I still have to wonder, did she know about Nat and do something reckless, looking to sleuth Joran out...just makes me wonder.  God bless these girls, I know many of us did foolish things as teen young women......this gives us special pause and wonder.... could we have been in this same       position....

I doubt it.  I think she was very familiar with the casino and may have been looking around to see if anyone she knew (other than Joran) was there.

May be and Klaas, know I bow to your superior knowledge.....I have been reading since Nat, but only posting since Caylee....I always wish there was something I could do to resolve these cases......I am a sideline player.....just know, I support you all and wish I could do something more concrete....I try to hold up the cases....with nothing more than....... prayers