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« Reply #1260 on: June 16, 2010, 01:00:22 PM »

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/aruba-cnn-got-it-wrong/
Tim  Miller from Texas Eqqusearch, who is on the island with Dave Holloway, responds to the inaccurate reports in the media. “Dave has waited five years for a break in the case of his missing daughter. It has been very difficult on him. Now for the first time in five years, he feels as though things are moving in a positive forward direction.  He has been on the island working closely with authorities. Dave is not going to risk being misquoted, so please allow him his privacy.  Its not worth doing a story now that could interfere with the investigation. Please be patient and we will all hopefully have a much bigger story very soon.”
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Can I ask how Monkeys feel about Tim Miller's recent, umm, optimisim? He seems to me to be delusional so I would greatly appreciate your opinions if you believe, along with Tim, that something is happening, or Tim is just fooling himself? I'm not sure I'm saying this right, but I just get the impression from Tim that's he hopeful something is about to break in the Natalee case and I for one don't think Aruba is going to ever disclose where/when/how (we know who)

I don't understand why either of them are there right now....
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« Reply #1261 on: June 16, 2010, 01:03:57 PM »

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Police denies pressure on Van der Sloot to confess crime

An American blog Fow News Agency said Dutchman stamped signature false confession to police pressure
Wednesday June 16, 2010 - 11:50 am

The head of the Homicide Division of the National Police, PNP Colonel Miguel Canlla Ore, said yesterday that the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22), accused of the crime of Stephany Ramirez Flores, was never pressured to sign a confession .

"The seven steps taken by the murder were made in the presence of a prosecutor, defense attorney of the citizen Dutchman and the translator appointed by the Embassy of Netherlands in Peru, "said Canlla.

An American blog, the website of the agency Fox News , said that Joran had a signature different from his passport in his confession under pressure from the Peruvian police. "There was no pressure or false signature. It acted in accordance with the law and respect the rights of Joran, referred Canlla


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://elcomercio.pe/&ei=VgMZTOHLHYOC8gavs6X9AQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Del%2Bcomercio%2Bperu%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3Dig
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« Reply #1262 on: June 16, 2010, 01:05:00 PM »

-el comercio peru


Police denies pressure on Van der Sloot to confess crime

An American blog Fow News Agency said Dutchman stamped signature false confession to police pressure
Wednesday June 16, 2010 - 11:50 am

The head of the Homicide Division of the National Police, PNP Colonel Miguel Canlla Ore, said yesterday that the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22), accused of the crime of Stephany Ramirez Flores, was never pressured to sign a confession .

"The seven steps taken by the murder were made in the presence of a prosecutor, defense attorney of the citizen Dutchman and the translator appointed by the Embassy of Netherlands in Peru, "said Canlla.

An American blog, the website of the agency Fox News , said that Joran had a signature different from his passport in his confession under pressure from the Peruvian police. "There was no pressure or false signature. It acted in accordance with the law and respect the rights of Joran, referred Canlla


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://elcomercio.pe/&ei=VgMZTOHLHYOC8gavs6X9AQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Del%2Bcomercio%2Bperu%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3Dig

WHAT?  Fox News made something up?
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« Reply #1263 on: June 16, 2010, 01:05:31 PM »

STFU GRETA!!!
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« Reply #1264 on: June 16, 2010, 01:08:00 PM »

-LA REPUBLICA


Waiver Van der Sloot's lawyer
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Death threats. Maximum Highness fears for his family. Since taking the case, he says, have not ceased to send intimidating emails. Meanwhile, father of Stephany implicates the FBI for failing to catch the Dutchman.




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« Reply #1265 on: June 16, 2010, 01:08:56 PM »

I'm hoping someone will answer, if possible.  Something that I have always wondered about.

During the early stages, there was something that I read, I kept thinking it was just a rumor, but I've never been sure.

It was said that Natalee shared a cellphone with a few other friends while in Aruba, and that she called another friend from that cellphone, while she was with Joran.  It was said that the friend who received the call could hear birds in the background.

Was this rumor?



Jill - in the beginning there was discussion about this phone call.  I'm not sure the final outcome of this one so I'll leave it to others to reply.  I have never heard about it being from a shared phone though and the version I heard was maybe monkey sounds or wind from a car driving.



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« Reply #1266 on: June 16, 2010, 01:10:43 PM »

I'm hoping someone will answer, if possible.  Something that I have always wondered about.

During the early stages, there was something that I read, I kept thinking it was just a rumor, but I've never been sure.

It was said that Natalee shared a cellphone with a few other friends while in Aruba, and that she called another friend from that cellphone, while she was with Joran.  It was said that the friend who received the call could hear birds in the background.

Was this rumor?



Jill - in the beginning there was discussion about this phone call.  I'm not sure the final outcome of this one so I'll leave it to others to reply.  I have never heard about it being from a shared phone though and the version I heard was maybe monkey sounds or wind from a car driving.





thanks, Klaas.

Maybe it was monkeys that I read - it's been so long and so much was confusing.  and kept getting more confusing.
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« Reply #1267 on: June 16, 2010, 01:11:23 PM »

We can call a lot of different people guilty of not stopping Joran in his tracks sooner.
Lets start with his parents.
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« Reply #1268 on: June 16, 2010, 01:12:13 PM »

Buckshot - I read it, and I liked it.
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« Reply #1269 on: June 16, 2010, 01:12:21 PM »

apologize if this has been posted:

"News reports out of Peru and Holland have Joran van der Sloot playing poker behind bars with a Columbian hit man. Police say Van der Sloot confessed last week to killing a 21-year-old Lima student, Stephany Flores, on May 30 in his hotel room after the two met playing poker at a casino.

The poker-behind-bars story originally appeared in a Lima, Peru newspaper, then was reprinted in a paper in The Netherlands. According to NBC news, the source for the Peruvian version of the story was a jailhouse informant. The director of prisons has denied to NBC News that van der Sloot is playing poker in the pokey, saying he has no contact with anyone behind bars. Apparently the Columbian drug lord lives in the prison cell next door to Van der Sloot, and they have chatted, but they don't have access to each other to play poker.

NBC News is also reporting new information about Van der Sloot's confession to the murder of Flores. At end of confession, Van der Sloot told police he wanted to talk about Natalee Holloway. He said if his Peruvian case goes smoothly and quickly, he wants to be extradited to Aruba to help in "solving" the Holloway case."

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978306105

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« Reply #1270 on: June 16, 2010, 01:13:34 PM »

Sounds like Greta still has a crush on Joran..
Maybe they can spend some private time together in his cell.
I mean, if she is so inclined.
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« Reply #1271 on: June 16, 2010, 01:13:47 PM »

Expert: US Could Charge van der Sloot With Holloway's Murder
(June 14) -- Joran van der Sloot, the young Dutchman charged in the killing of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman, could be indicted by U.S. authorities for the murder of Natalee Holloway, a legal expert tells AOL News.

"In this particular case with van der Sloot, if the Arubans won't do anything with this guy, the U.S. could conceivably -- once he is released in Peru -- extradite him back to the states and prosecute him for Holloway's murder," says Michael Griffith, senior partner at the International Legal Defense Counsel.

Griffith also thinks the U.S. could leverage that threat to get the 22-year-old Dutch native to reveal the location of Holloway's body.

Van der Sloot was arrested earlier this month in the slaying of Stephany Flores. She was found dead in van der Sloot's Lima, Peru, hotel room on June 2, setting off a police manhunt that ended with his arrest in Chile the following day. Van der Sloot is equally infamous for his longtime association with the disappearance of Holloway, an 18-year-old Alabama woman who vanished on a trip to Aruba in 2005.

Holloway was last seen leaving a nightclub with van der Sloot. Her body has never been found. There are reports of van der Sloot making multiple confessions in the case.

According to Griffith, the passive personality principle of international law allows a country to prosecute someone who has killed or injured an American citizen in a foreign country. In essence, jurisdiction is based on the nationality of the victim and not the location of the crime.

"One example of that would be the Leon Klinghoffer case," Griffith said.

In 1985, Klinghoffer, 69, and his wife were celebrating their 36th wedding anniversary on the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Palestinian terrorists hijacked the liner, and Klinghoffer was murdered and thrown overboard. The hijackers were later given safe passage on a flight to Tunisia, but the U.S. Air Force intercepted the plane and forced it to land in Italy, where the suspects were taken into custody.

"The U.S. has secondary jurisdiction over van der Sloot because of the extortion case," Griffith explains. "Because of that, and statements he allegedly made on video, the U.S. now has reasonable cause to believe, I would ascertain, that he's responsible for the Holloway killing."

On June 3, federal authorities in Alabama charged van der Sloot with extortion in connection with the disappearance of Holloway. Officials say van der Sloot offered to provide information on Holloway's disappearance in exchange for $250,000. An intermediary acting under the FBI's direction met with van der Sloot at a hotel in Aruba and allegedly gave him a partial payment of $10,000 in cash. An additional $15,000 was wired to van der Sloot via a financial institution in the Netherlands, U.S. authorities say.

Upon receiving the initial payment, van der Sloot allegedly spoke about Holloway's case -- discussions that were secretly recorded by the FBI -- and pointed out a location where her body could be found. Authorities later discovered Holloway's remains were not there.

However, Griffith said van der Sloot's alleged statements, along with his previous confessions in the case, are enough for U.S. authorities to make a circumstantial murder case against him.

"Now is the time for the U.S., which has Department of Justice offices in Peru, to have a three-way meeting with officials there and van der Sloot," Griffith said. "This could be done now. Van der Sloot has already said he knows where [Holloway] is."

Van der Sloot faces 15 to 35 years in prison if he is convicted of the murder charge in Peru. He would be required to serve only a third of that time. After that, he would face a possible five- to 10-year sentence on the extortion charges. All totaled, he could conceivably serve less than 20 years in jail.

However, if convicted in the U.S. for Holloway's murder, he could face life in prison -- something that Griffith said gives U.S. officials the edge right now.

"The Holloways need to at least find their daughter," Griffith said. "They don't want to wait 10 years till he gets parole and is extradited. The Peruvian authorities have no jurisdiction for the murder of Holloway, but we do because he allegedly killed an American citizen.

"Make the deal right now," Griffith continued. "Tell him, 'We have enough on you circumstantially already, but by the time you get out we'll have a lot more, and you'll never see the light of day again. If you know where the body is, tell us now, and we won't extradite you on a murder charge.'"

Whether authorities in the U.S. will invoke the passive personality principle is yet to be decided. However, Holloway's family is apparently anxious for answers. The Associated Press reported Monday that Holloway's father, Dave Holloway, is in Aruba and plans to meet with prosecutors today to see if they have received any new information about his daughter's disappearance.

Meanwhile, van der Sloot's attorney, Maximo Altez Navarro, has withdrawn from the case. According to The Daily Beast, Navarro did not believe his client's family could afford to pay for his services. Additionally, he was troubled by threats he has been receiving since taking on the case.


http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/legal-expert-us-could-charge-joran-van-der-sloot-with-holloways-murder/19515801
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« Reply #1272 on: June 16, 2010, 01:14:11 PM »


The FBI is still on the island so far as we know.  The FBI is also responsible for the 2 raids performed in the Netherlands shortly after Joran's capture.

I'm taking a hopeful wait and see approach.  I try to be eternally hopeful, though, as I believe in the theory that "what you put on the wheel comes back around" if you know what I mean.


As my hope lessens, your attitude is encouraging Lifesong.  BTW great time line you presented yesterday re Stefany.  I appreciate the massive amount of work you put into it.

I've just been pondering the thought that perhaps "someone" who knows
something, has made their way to one of the several F. B. I. agents on the island.

Justice for Natalee!

I wanted to second the thanks to Lifesong for that timeline!

Can - I share your hope.  Someone who knows going to the FBI (or Tim Miller) is what I'm keeping my fingers crossed for.  As long as they all steer clear of ALE with any info they are given, answers might finally come forth.
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« Reply #1273 on: June 16, 2010, 01:14:58 PM »

I think Beth has denied such a phone call.  IIRC, it was a student that rec'd a phone call of some sort.  Think he noticed it when he checked his phone on the bus after landing back in the States.  IIRC It was said this call was likely someone calling a wrong number and then hanging up.
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« Reply #1274 on: June 16, 2010, 01:15:09 PM »

Buckshot - I read it, and I liked it.

Buckshot you had me rolling..although I was wondering how many readers would think you were serious.
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« Reply #1275 on: June 16, 2010, 01:15:36 PM »

Thank you Klaas, and Nut and ?? one other Monkey who has posted this.  I am intrigued.  Is this akin to what Art Wood told us all about in 2005?

Expert: US Could Charge van der Sloot With Holloway's Murder
(June 14) -- Joran van der Sloot, the young Dutchman charged in the killing of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman, could be indicted by U.S. authorities for the murder of Natalee Holloway, a legal expert tells AOL News.

"In this particular case with van der Sloot, if the Arubans won't do anything with this guy, the U.S. could conceivably -- once he is released in Peru -- extradite him back to the states and prosecute him for Holloway's murder," says Michael Griffith, senior partner at the International Legal Defense Counsel.

Griffith also thinks the U.S. could leverage that threat to get the 22-year-old Dutch native to reveal the location of Holloway's body.

Van der Sloot was arrested earlier this month in the slaying of Stephany Flores. She was found dead in van der Sloot's Lima, Peru, hotel room on June 2, setting off a police manhunt that ended with his arrest in Chile the following day. Van der Sloot is equally infamous for his longtime association with the disappearance of Holloway, an 18-year-old Alabama woman who vanished on a trip to Aruba in 2005.

Holloway was last seen leaving a nightclub with van der Sloot. Her body has never been found. There are reports of van der Sloot making multiple confessions in the case.

According to Griffith, the passive personality principle of international law allows a country to prosecute someone who has killed or injured an American citizen in a foreign country. In essence, jurisdiction is based on the nationality of the victim and not the location of the crime.

"One example of that would be the Leon Klinghoffer case," Griffith said.

In 1985, Klinghoffer, 69, and his wife were celebrating their 36th wedding anniversary on the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Palestinian terrorists hijacked the liner, and Klinghoffer was murdered and thrown overboard. The hijackers were later given safe passage on a flight to Tunisia, but the U.S. Air Force intercepted the plane and forced it to land in Italy, where the suspects were taken into custody.

"The U.S. has secondary jurisdiction over van der Sloot because of the extortion case," Griffith explains. "Because of that, and statements he allegedly made on video, the U.S. now has reasonable cause to believe, I would ascertain, that he's responsible for the Holloway killing."

On June 3, federal authorities in Alabama charged van der Sloot with extortion in connection with the disappearance of Holloway. Officials say van der Sloot offered to provide information on Holloway's disappearance in exchange for $250,000. An intermediary acting under the FBI's direction met with van der Sloot at a hotel in Aruba and allegedly gave him a partial payment of $10,000 in cash. An additional $15,000 was wired to van der Sloot via a financial institution in the Netherlands, U.S. authorities say.

Upon receiving the initial payment, van der Sloot allegedly spoke about Holloway's case -- discussions that were secretly recorded by the FBI -- and pointed out a location where her body could be found. Authorities later discovered Holloway's remains were not there.

However, Griffith said van der Sloot's alleged statements, along with his previous confessions in the case, are enough for U.S. authorities to make a circumstantial murder case against him.

"Now is the time for the U.S., which has Department of Justice offices in Peru, to have a three-way meeting with officials there and van der Sloot," Griffith said. "This could be done now. Van der Sloot has already said he knows where [Holloway] is."

Van der Sloot faces 15 to 35 years in prison if he is convicted of the murder charge in Peru. He would be required to serve only a third of that time. After that, he would face a possible five- to 10-year sentence on the extortion charges. All totaled, he could conceivably serve less than 20 years in jail.

However, if convicted in the U.S. for Holloway's murder, he could face life in prison -- something that Griffith said gives U.S. officials the edge right now.

"The Holloways need to at least find their daughter," Griffith said. "They don't want to wait 10 years till he gets parole and is extradited. The Peruvian authorities have no jurisdiction for the murder of Holloway, but we do because he allegedly killed an American citizen.

"Make the deal right now," Griffith continued. "Tell him, 'We have enough on you circumstantially already, but by the time you get out we'll have a lot more, and you'll never see the light of day again. If you know where the body is, tell us now, and we won't extradite you on a murder charge.'"

Whether authorities in the U.S. will invoke the passive personality principle is yet to be decided. However, Holloway's family is apparently anxious for answers. The Associated Press reported Monday that Holloway's father, Dave Holloway, is in Aruba and plans to meet with prosecutors today to see if they have received any new information about his daughter's disappearance.

Meanwhile, van der Sloot's attorney, Maximo Altez Navarro, has withdrawn from the case. According to The Daily Beast, Navarro did not believe his client's family could afford to pay for his services. Additionally, he was troubled by threats he has been receiving since taking on the case.


http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/legal-expert-us-could-charge-joran-van-der-sloot-with-holloways-murder/19515801
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« Reply #1276 on: June 16, 2010, 01:16:40 PM »

-el comercio peru


Police denies pressure on Van der Sloot to confess crime

An American blog Fow News Agency said Dutchman stamped signature false confession to police pressure
Wednesday June 16, 2010 - 11:50 am

The head of the Homicide Division of the National Police, PNP Colonel Miguel Canlla Ore, said yesterday that the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22), accused of the crime of Stephany Ramirez Flores, was never pressured to sign a confession .

"The seven steps taken by the murder were made in the presence of a prosecutor, defense attorney of the citizen Dutchman and the translator appointed by the Embassy of Netherlands in Peru, "said Canlla.

An American blog, the website of the agency Fox News , said that Joran had a signature different from his passport in his confession under pressure from the Peruvian police. "There was no pressure or false signature. It acted in accordance with the law and respect the rights of Joran, referred Canlla


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://elcomercio.pe/&ei=VgMZTOHLHYOC8gavs6X9AQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Del%2Bcomercio%2Bperu%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3Dig


Gretawire Blog

June 14, 2010 | 10:43 PM ET


Joran's lawyer ..Joran's lawyer told us how Joran tried to fake his signature on his confession.  I took a look at the signature and it looks like his name is 3 letters long (and it is hardly that !)  His lawyer said if you compare to his passport you can see the signature on the confession is very different.  His lawyer was hinting to us that Joran did that to give him some room to deny the confession was made by him or was made under duress.  He will have a hard time with that one...and, as an aside......on the confession, next to his signature is his fingerprint.  The authorities in Aruba make the declarant (here Joran) put his thumbprint next to his signature

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/jorans-lawyer/
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« Reply #1277 on: June 16, 2010, 01:18:39 PM »

We can call a lot of different people guilty of not stopping Joran in his tracks sooner.
Lets start with his parents.


Bingo!!!!!! The ones   one who keeps feeding the beast.
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« Reply #1278 on: June 16, 2010, 01:20:47 PM »

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Police denies pressure on Van der Sloot to confess crime

An American blog Fow News Agency said Dutchman stamped signature false confession to police pressure
Wednesday June 16, 2010 - 11:50 am

The head of the Homicide Division of the National Police, PNP Colonel Miguel Canlla Ore, said yesterday that the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22), accused of the crime of Stephany Ramirez Flores, was never pressured to sign a confession .

"The seven steps taken by the murder were made in the presence of a prosecutor, defense attorney of the citizen Dutchman and the translator appointed by the Embassy of Netherlands in Peru, "said Canlla.

An American blog, the website of the agency Fox News , said that Joran had a signature different from his passport in his confession under pressure from the Peruvian police. "There was no pressure or false signature. It acted in accordance with the law and respect the rights of Joran, referred Canlla


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://elcomercio.pe/&ei=VgMZTOHLHYOC8gavs6X9AQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Del%2Bcomercio%2Bperu%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3Dig

WHAT?  Fox News made something up?

FOX (Greta) does not stand alone in misleading/false reporting.

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ARUBA…CNN GOT IT WRONG
June 16, 2010


In the article attached below, CNN has quoted Dave Holloway. I have been embedded with Dave the entire time he has been in Aruba, and according to Dave, he has never spoken to CNN, and is not just being misquoted…but they actually made it up.

From the CNN article posted below … “Holloway’s father, Dave Holloway, met with Aruban authorities on the island Tuesday and told CNN he believes progress is being made in the investigation. He declined to elaborate further.”

He never spoke to CNN. Notice they did not use quotation marks around what Dave said. In the midst of an international murder investigation, we all understand the appetite for news. But misrepresenting what the father of a missing girl at the center of an international murder investigation is reprehensible.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/15/aruba.van.der.sloot/?hpt=Sbin

Tim  Miller from Texas Eqqusearch, who is on the island with Dave Holloway, responds to the inaccurate reports in the media. “Dave has waited five years for a break in the case of his missing daughter. It has been very difficult on him. Now for the first time in five years, he feels as though things are moving in a positive forward direction.  He has been on the island working closely with authorities. Dave is not going to risk being misquoted, so please allow him his privacy.  Its not worth doing a story now that could interfere with the investigation. Please be patient and we will all hopefully have a much bigger story very soon.”

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/aruba-cnn-got-it-wrong/
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #1279 on: June 16, 2010, 01:21:29 PM »

The phone call... or calls

The first one to the student intercepted by Charles Croes...
Not one person ever identified that phone number and who it belonged too.
wether that be an Aruban Phone or an Alabama phone number.

Then there is the broke phone found by the lighthouse..

Also there were words.. "are you trying to call home"
Although none of US have ever herd the call and the only ones who did have not said much and that is disturbing as info from the beginning is the most crucial to investigating.

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