Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 - 6/17/10

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas/Mods

Please delete post 1357.  I messed up.

Thanks

Janet

GOT IT (KLAASEND)

[Northern Rose]

Jean Casaraz said Aruba sent out a press release.
JVDS said he wants to talk to Aruba to "clarify"  Natalee's disappearance
Aruba says they have a serious intent to discover the truth
Aruba realizes that the case is in Peru jurisdiction

[Northern Rose]

JC said she also called the Highest Maximus and reports that he is staying on the case are NOT true.

[msmarple]

Janet - You are amazing. I can't imagine how much storage you've tied up with this. (also klaas - especially with all the graphics.)

[Tylergal]

Janet - You are amazing. I can't imagine how much storage you've tied up with this. (also klaas - especially with all the graphics.)

I would only hope my bank was half as good as Janet.

[Tylergal]

JC said she also called the Highest Maximus and reports that he is staying on the case are NOT true.

Where is Anna when you need her to get the full phonetic of JC.

[klaasend]

Jo-An

Nice to see that Dutch TV can be as messed up as American TV, LOL

[Anna]

O/T Bad news for all Peter de Vries fans, he has a new lover, 17 years his junior and she´s the editor in chief at a couple of RTL-shows.

uh oh...but what about his wife?!

They have an open relationship. *roll eyes* She´s totally fine with it.

What!!!!!!.....oh no, say it isn't so.  Disappointed.  He is rather gorgeous though!

Oh, I'm just devastated--devastated, I tell ya!  But I'm sure if he had the chance to meet me first, this would never happen.  I am sure Peter de Vries is not just some some womanizing egotist!

<wink, wink>

[MisGivings]

Really, really behind here, Monkeys, so forgive me if this has already been posted.

PABLO'S BITCH

[cece]

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/16/friend-of-two-time-suspected-killer-joran-van-der-sloot-breaks-silence/

June 16, 2010
Friend of two-time suspected killer Joran van der Sloot breaks silence
Posted: 02:30 PM ET

“Friend of Joran van der Sloot” – it’s not a title most people would be proud of, but for the murder suspect’s self-proclaimed American friend, John Ludwick, it’s one that he seems to embrace. The way Ludwick tells it, the two met at a gas station in Aruba and became fast friends, gambling at a local casino most nights.
 

But what drew this 25 year-old to an individual suspected in one of the world’s most famous unsolved cases? Was he star struck or was it just morbid curiosity? Ludwick tells me he in fact admitted to Joran van der Sloot that he was star-struck when he first met him, so I believe it was a little of both. Regardless of why, I was very curious to find out what, if anything, he knew about the Holloway case and if he saw any signs which foreshadowed the violent acts van der Sloot allegedly committed.

John Ludwick told me he never asked his friend about the Holloway case “flat out” because “If I pushed him he would think I had other motives”. While most, including I, would find that hard to believe, it’s a point he remains firm on. He said the two did eventually discuss the case after they watched a Lifetime movie about the case one evening. Van der Sloot told him certain parts were true, while others were not. When I pressed Ludwick for more details, he remained tight-lipped. Interestingly, Ludwick who was house-sitting in Aruba, would leave the island on May 10th – just 3 ½ months after they first met and the same day Joran would meet Beth Holloway’s attorney, John Q. Kelly, as part of an alleged plot to extort money from her. Ludwick says van der Sloot never mentioned the alleged plot but he told him about a call van der Sloot got around that time where he was “trying to work out a deal for some money” and it was about the “Holloway situation.” Again his details were slim and when I pressed for more and he failed to elaborate. Also on May 10th, Joran would text his friend saying he was “done” with Aruba. Ludwick speculates maybe Joran was leaving because he knew he was set to meet with Kelly later that very day. Joran would indeed leave Aruba a few days later for his ill-fated trip to Peru after extorting $25,000 from Beth Holloway, according to the FBI.

John Ludwick says never thought van der Sloot to have a violent temper and never saw him in a state of rage. He told me the two did encounter their fair share of angry tourists when they were out and about. Frequently, Ludwick says they would taunt van der Sloot, shouting things like “why do you make up all those stories” but he never saw him throw a punch. And while Ludwick never saw him hostile, he did witness what he believes is an obvious gambling addiction. According to Ludwick, the two would spend most nights at the poker tables and van der Sloot would win big but then loose it all – “he could never just stop.”

While John Ludwick’s brief time with van der Sloot offers up some interesting insight into the alleged killer’s life right before the murder in Peru, it also poses some interesting questions I’m afraid I can’t answer. The most curious–why would you be friends with someone accused of being a murderer? I think John Ludwick will have just a hard of time defending his friendship with Joran van der Sloot, as the suspect may have at beating a murder wrap.

[Jo-An]

SBS - Joran special - part 4

Interviewing people in the streets of Lima.
They want Joran to serve his sentence in Peru because that is where he commited this crime.

Aruba
Taco Stein talked to Peruvian LE. First they want to hear what Joran has to say. With that information they will try to find Natalee. If they do find her remains, it might be hard to ever know the cause of death.

Stephany's dad: LE needs to talk to Joran in order to know what happened to Natalee.
He talked to Dave (his son was the interpretor), they gave each other emotional support.
He hopes that they will find Natalee's remains, even if it is just a small piece of evidence so that the family will finally have peace.

the end

This docu can be watched online (tomorrow I think) here, http://www.sbs6.nl/web/show/id=916193/langid=43 .
But tbh it wasn´t anything special.

[Jo-An]

Jo-An

Nice to see that Dutch TV can be as messed up as American TV, LOL

Ain´t it the truth!!

[cece]

Holloway rivots students as she details living nightmare
Jun 16 2010 12:00AM  By Casey Strickland Sun-Courier Staff Writer

http://www.zwire.com/news/newsstory.cfm?newsid=20436051&title=Holloway%20rivots%20students%20as%20she%20details%20living%20nightmare&BRD=1145&PAG=461&CATNAME=Top%20Stories&CATEGORYID=410

[Tamikosmom]

O/T Bad news for all Peter de Vries fans, he has a new lover, 17 years his junior and she´s the editor in chief at a couple of RTL-shows.

uh oh...but what about his wife?!

They have an open relationship. *roll eyes* She´s totally fine with it.

What!!!!!!.....oh no, say it isn't so.  Disappointed.  He is rather gorgeous though!

Oh, I'm just devastated--devastated, I tell ya!  But I'm sure if he had the chance to meet me first, this would never happen.  I am sure Peter de Vries is not just some some womanizing egotist!

<wink, wink>

I do believe that "open" marriages do not limited relationships to two?

Go for it Anna!

Janet

[klaasend]

Jenna at RU thinks that John Ludwick is FBI.  She thinks this because he is from Alexandria VA so it's obvious to her, LOLOL.  She's the same one that has the theory that Stephany isn't really dead.

[carpe noctem]

JC said she also called the Highest Maximus and reports that he is staying on the case are NOT true.

Where is Anna when you need her to get the full phonetic of JC.

Jinkasaurus! LOL

[mojo]

Jenna at RU thinks that John Ludwick is FBI.  She thinks this because he is from Alexandria VA so it's obvious to her, LOLOL.  She's the same one that has the theory that Stephany isn't really dead.

oh god, klaas....make 'em stop

[Nut44x4]

Jenna at RU thinks that John Ludwick is FBI.  She thinks this because he is from Alexandria VA so it's obvious to her, LOLOL.  She's the same one that has the theory that Stephany isn't really dead.

Yeah..... She's a real nutjob, that one.

Example of her threads:
Was the TAC hotel video of Joran with two coffees altered?

Two Jorans, two Stephanys, two passports or two hotels rooms

Was Joran framed?

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those are recent....she has a ton of old ones that make you wonder why she isn't locked up.

[Tamikosmom]

Jenna at RU thinks that John Ludwick is FBI.  She thinks this because he is from Alexandria VA so it's obvious to her, LOLOL.  She's the same one that has the theory that Stephany isn't really dead.

I would listen to Jenna.  This gal had the Persistence betrayal figured out at the get go.  We all .....

Janet

[jen3560]

Jenna at RU thinks that John Ludwick is FBI.  She thinks this because he is from Alexandria VA so it's obvious to her, LOLOL.  She's the same one that has the theory that Stephany isn't really dead.

I would listen to Jenna.  This gal had the Persistence betrayal figured out at the get go.  We all .....

Janet

She also admitted (back then) to having posted some of those things on behalf of someone else.....FWIW