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« Reply #1820 on: June 17, 2010, 03:45:45 PM »

HLN is reporting Anita has borrowed money for Joran's defense from "friends", additionally that there may be more than one attorney hired, and that she plans to head to Peru in a few days.

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Could it be the same source that is financing the Kalpoe defamation lawsuit against the Kalpoes ... the same source referred to as the ATA/AHATA/

Janet


Well we can be pretty sure it is not the Arawak Indian tribe nor the Yoruba tribe from Nigeria..So Indigenous Indians are out and so is Shango/Chango.
SO it must be the Dutch Tribe.

She is broke but has kids in college in other nations..
I can't believe anyone buys this carp... Like Paulus had no life insurance policy ..
GMAB

The amount of disinformation in this case is disturbing and I have to assume it is all being done on Purpose..

By design..

Again.

 


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« Reply #1821 on: June 17, 2010, 03:48:01 PM »

So now we have the whole timeline of the camera that's next to his door:

05.33.55 Joran and Stephany enter the room
08.13.34 Joran exits to get coffee
08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee
08.35.50 Joran exits second time with (empty?) coffee cups
08.39.46 Hotel employee opens his door
08.56.45 Joran leaves with his luggage

Jo-An

is there a clip of Joran returning to the room after purchasing the coffee?

Thanks so much.  This is a huge piece of the puzzle.

Thanks

Janet
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« Reply #1822 on: June 17, 2010, 03:48:24 PM »

HLN is reporting Anita has borrowed money for Joran's defense from "friends", additionally that there may be more than one attorney hired, and that she plans to head to Peru in a few days.

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Could it be the same source that is financing the Kalpoe defamation lawsuit against the Kalpoes ... the same source referred to as the ATA/AHATA/

Janet


Hi Janet-

It could be but I really feel that NL is probably financing some of this. Of course, it's all speculative.........
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« Reply #1823 on: June 17, 2010, 03:48:45 PM »

I wish the Dutch would learn to do these shows in English (just kidding)

Here you go, Klaasend! *wink wink*

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« Reply #1824 on: June 17, 2010, 03:49:58 PM »

So now we have the whole timeline of the camera that's next to his door:

05.33.55 Joran and Stephany enter the room
08.13.34 Joran exits to get coffee
08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee
08.35.50 Joran exits second time with (empty?) coffee cups
08.39.46 Hotel employee opens his door
08.56.45 Joran leaves with his luggage

Jo-An

is there a clip of Joran returning to the room after purchasing the coffee?

Thanks so much.  This is a huge piece of the puzzle.

Thanks

Janet


Just this pic.

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« Reply #1825 on: June 17, 2010, 03:50:34 PM »

Thanks Klaas

Janet
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« Reply #1826 on: June 17, 2010, 03:50:54 PM »

But Stephany is already killed because Joran has mysteriously changed shirts.
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« Reply #1827 on: June 17, 2010, 03:52:41 PM »

HLN is reporting Anita has borrowed money for Joran's defense from "friends", additionally that there may be more than one attorney hired, and that she plans to head to Peru in a few days.

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Could it be the same source that is financing the Kalpoe defamation lawsuit against the Kalpoes ... the same source referred to as the ATA/AHATA/

Janet


Well we can be pretty sure it is not the Arawak Indian tribe nor the Yoruba tribe from Nigeria..So Indigenous Indians are out and so is Shango/Chango.
SO it must be the Dutch Tribe.

She is broke but has kids in college in other nations..
I can't believe anyone buys this carp... Like Paulus had no life insurance policy ..
GMAB

The amount of disinformation in this case is disturbing and I have to assume it is all being done on Purpose..

By design..

Again.

 





And didn't YOU just post that "we" had not seen Joran smoking before?

Speak for yourself as I have seen probably a hundred photos of him smoking.

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« Reply #1828 on: June 17, 2010, 03:52:51 PM »

So now we have the whole timeline of the camera that's next to his door:

05.33.55 Joran and Stephany enter the room
08.13.34 Joran exits to get coffee
08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee
08.35.50 Joran exits second time with (empty?) coffee cups
08.39.46 Hotel employee opens his door
08.56.45 Joran leaves with his luggage

05.33.55 Joran and Stephany enter the room
Sometime between here Joran murders Stephany
08.13.34 Joran exits to get coffee

I agree.

Klaas ... could you please post the video clip of him leaving the room with the coffee cups.

Thanks

Janet

I did, it's posted above
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« Reply #1829 on: June 17, 2010, 03:53:18 PM »

Ex-lover of Joran Van der Sloot, Melody Granadillo, says accused killer was 'amazing' and 'romantic'

By Michael Sheridan
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, June 17th 2010, 1:40 PM










http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/06/17/2010-06-17_exlover_of_joran_van_der_sloot_melody_granadillo_says_accused_killer_was_romanti.html

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Gak me with Uri Geller`s spoon.

She said "he would lie for no apparent reason.."

Well Melody .. You do the same things..
I/We have talked to you many times and YOU and Joran are 2 peas in a pod.
You are still hooked on him.. You belong together.
I knew you would show up..and you did.
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« Reply #1830 on: June 17, 2010, 03:54:52 PM »

Just throwing this out there - I wonder if Aruba/NL requires something like our probate process when someone dies? If so, it might be that six months or some other perid must elapse before she actually receives insurance or other monies.

I think the purpose of probate here, is to allow anyone to whom the deceased owes money, to make a claim for that money.

Not that I actually care. I hope that she does have financial problems, and that they are the least of her problems.
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« Reply #1831 on: June 17, 2010, 03:55:17 PM »

Nut - you could be right and I know what you are talking about, really I do. 

I've seen it too, but I'd rather think of Urine as deformed on the outside as he is on the inside.
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« Reply #1832 on: June 17, 2010, 03:55:48 PM »

Anna
I will go back through all the photos and see how many times he is seen smoking.
Maybe I was not paying attention.
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« Reply #1833 on: June 17, 2010, 03:56:27 PM »

HLN is reporting Anita has borrowed money for Joran's defense from "friends", additionally that there may be more than one attorney hired, and that she plans to head to Peru in a few days.

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Could it be the same source that is financing the Kalpoe defamation lawsuit against the Kalpoes ... the same source referred to as the ATA/AHATA/

Janet


Hi Janet-

It could be but I really feel that NL is probably financing some of this. Of course, it's all speculative.........

On the Record w / Greta - November 14, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S MOTHER: Well Greta, somebody is lobbying for Joran in the Hague in order to protect him ….. it has to be.
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« Reply #1834 on: June 17, 2010, 04:07:24 PM »

Anna
I will go back through all the photos and see how many times he is seen smoking.
Maybe I was not paying attention.


If you can find the video of the interview with I think it was Jaap? - he smokes during that. Also, I think cigarettes were among the things from his backpack. AND - the taxi drivers said he smoked constantly.
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« Reply #1835 on: June 17, 2010, 04:07:54 PM »

So now we have the whole timeline of the camera that's next to his door:

05.33.55 Joran and Stephany enter the room
08.13.34 Joran exits to get coffee
08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee
08.35.50 Joran exits second time with (empty?) coffee cups
08.39.46 Hotel employee opens his door
08.56.45 Joran leaves with his luggage

Jo-An

is there a clip of Joran returning to the room after purchasing the coffee?

Thanks so much.  This is a huge piece of the puzzle.

Thanks

Janet


Just this pic.



Jo-An

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08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee
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« Reply #1836 on: June 17, 2010, 04:09:54 PM »

Anita..
$ 1200.00 round trip from Aruba to Peru...
Or, you could ride on a wing for 280.00 one way..
Or hide in the wheel well for free.

35.00 a night to stay in the same room as Joran "to get a feel for things"   

How many friends had to loan this exorbitant amount of money.. ??

Bingo is not paying off ?


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« Reply #1837 on: June 17, 2010, 04:14:17 PM »

So now we have the whole timeline of the camera that's next to his door:

05.33.55 Joran and Stephany enter the room
08.13.34 Joran exits to get coffee
08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee
08.35.50 Joran exits second time with (empty?) coffee cups
08.39.46 Hotel employee opens his door
08.56.45 Joran leaves with his luggage

Jo-An

is there a clip of Joran returning to the room after purchasing the coffee?

Thanks so much.  This is a huge piece of the puzzle.

Thanks

Janet


Just this pic.



Jo-An

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08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee

That is the picture of him returning after buying the two coffees, at 8.24.

The next one is him leaving with the cups at 8.35



And this one at 8.36 pretending to have forgotten his key


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« Reply #1838 on: June 17, 2010, 04:15:03 PM »

Anna
I will go back through all the photos and see how many times he is seen smoking.
Maybe I was not paying attention.


If you can find the video of the interview with I think it was Jaap? - he smokes during that. Also, I think cigarettes were among the things from his backpack. AND - the taxi drivers said he smoked constantly.

You are so correct on all of that.. The Taxi drivers did say that and I do remember him sitting in the vehicle now.. Yes, he could have smoked there.. Although I do not have that video for reference.
 

Well I am very happy about that because I was thinking somebody altered or messed with the video which would/ may throw the case into turmoil.
 
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« Reply #1839 on: June 17, 2010, 04:22:06 PM »

I think Stephany smoked too. (She had two lighters, per the photos. But I don't think cigarettes were among the items pictured.)

I think it was reported, among the contents in the room, 5 cigarette butts in the ashtray. No telling how long they had been there, though.

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