Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 - 6/17/10

[jen3560]

Klass - why yes, that is Renfro.  Doesn't she live right there close to Bubali?

[klaasend]

If that's Renfro and a relative of hers has been BUSTED for DRUGS, I smell more KARMA

Frank - sorry about that photo.  I do think if it's real Joran is not going to survive 2 days when they put him in general population.

[klaasend]

Klass - why yes, that is Renfro.  Doesn't she live right there close to Bubali?

She looks concerned and NO CAMERA. 

[littletxlady]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/exclusive-crime-scene-photos-joran-van-der-sloots-bloody-shirt-victims-clothing?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

pics...

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/71269/2010/06/exclusive-photos-joran-van-der-sloot

[darleenofalabama]

MsMarple, I don't believe anything that lying multiple murderer says is real.  As for seizure activity, in general, let me clarify:  I did't say "post mortem", I said it's possible (with emphasis on possible) that a seizure might occur between the stoppage of the heart and cessation of brain activity--and the lack of brain activity defines clinical death.

[carpe noctem]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/exclusive-crime-scene-photos-joran-van-der-sloots-bloody-shirt-victims-clothing?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

pics...

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/71269/2010/06/exclusive-photos-joran-van-der-sloot

Oh, how fitting... is that a pic of Al Capone I see logged into evidence with his striped La Costa shirt?

[darleenofalabama]

Yes, that is Julia and she doesn't look happy.  Somebody must have stolen that tiara that she stole from me.

[klaasend]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/exclusive-crime-scene-photos-joran-van-der-sloots-bloody-shirt-victims-clothing?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

pics...

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/71269/2010/06/exclusive-photos-joran-van-der-sloot

Thanks!  Here's a couple of them.

[jen3560]

Oh lord.  That was a serious amount of blood.

[peachflower]

I read a few pages back someone asked if Lourdez Flores was the mother of stephanee Flores.
In South America women do not change their last names when they get married, they retain all their lives their maiden name and only add Mrs. in front of it.
I believe Stephanee Flores Ramirez is her full name, the first last name is the fathers and the one that is the most important one, Ramirez is her mothers last name.
Lourdes Flores can only be her mother if it appeared in the USA as such, in South America she would only be referred as her first name and Ramirez.

Sorry if this was already explained.

[darleenofalabama]

You're so right, Frank; nothing humiliates him; so, no harm done. 

[jen3560]

Klaas - one of the comments in that article w/Renfro and the bust

Definitely an American involved somehow....

Scirbi pa GUI, June 17, 2010

BAY SCOL SINJA EN BEZ DI HUNGA TOUGH DRECHA BOSO BIDA DELENCUENTE LAGA NAN PONE E MUCHANAN KI CU NO TA HASI NADA CU NAN BIDA DEN UN BARIO NA SUR AMERICA WAK CON NAN TA YORA PA MAMA CU PAPA LEBOMAI OM TRISTO PA WAK CON E HOBENNAN AKI ARUBIANO NO TA BAY NUNCA DILANTI PA CABEZ DURO CU NAN TIN I HASI GUY GRANDI....BO TA GRANDI ORA BO NO BIBA NA CAS DI BO MAMA I BO POR HASI TUR COS RIBA BO MES MANERA UN CIUDADANO CORRECTO DEN NOS COMUNIDAD....djies wak e figuurtjes nei riba potret

[martini]

Joran.. Hope you're enjoyin' the scen'ry
I know that it's pretty in there
Come Monday, It'll be all right... JB

I don't think Joran was a parrot head but I thought I would dedicate this song to him.

[klaasend]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/18778-caso-serio-di-bringamento-di-gang-a-caba-cu-tiro.html

Posting again on hopes this turns out to be a relative or friend of Renfro:



Not MY pot, it belongs to HER, the woman in the black dress  

[msmarple]

darleen - yes, "post-mortem" was MY term for what you said; sorry, my bad.

No, I don't believe a word Joran says, but I still think he pins a lot of his BS to something real.

[carpe noctem]

[cecilita]

Klaas - one of the comments in that article w/Renfro and the bust

Definitely an American involved somehow....

Scirbi pa GUI, June 17, 2010

BAY SCOL SINJA EN BEZ DI HUNGA TOUGH DRECHA BOSO BIDA DELENCUENTE LAGA NAN PONE E MUCHANAN KI CU NO TA HASI NADA CU NAN BIDA DEN UN BARIO NA SUR AMERICA WAK CON NAN TA YORA PA MAMA CU PAPA LEBOMAI OM TRISTO PA WAK CON E HOBENNAN AKI ARUBIANO NO TA BAY NUNCA DILANTI PA CABEZ DURO CU NAN TIN I HASI GUY GRANDI....BO TA GRANDI ORA BO NO BIBA NA CAS DI BO MAMA I BO POR HASI TUR COS RIBA BO MES MANERA UN CIUDADANO CORRECTO DEN NOS COMUNIDAD....djies wak e figuurtjes nei riba potret

her mom is ramirez

[klaasend]

Jen - I think that is saying South America but I could be wrong.

[darleenofalabama]

Right, MsMarple, the real part being that she's dead and he knows what happened.

[darleenofalabama]

I wonder what happened that is so distressing to Julia; I mean, I guess it could be loss of the stolen tiara, but somehow it just seems to be something in some other category.  I mean, tiaras are easy to come by (speaking from my own experience, of course).  She looks very, very hand-wringing, red-faced upset.  Maybe if I give her another tiara she will tell me.