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« on: June 14, 2010, 05:17:27 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/latest-confession-natalee-holloway-suspect/story?id=9954650

Natalee Holloway Snorted Coke, Fell to Death, Suspect Says
Joran van der Sloots alleged new confession asserts graphic details of the night she died

By CLEOPATRA ANDREADIS and CHRISTINE BROUWER

Feb. 26, 2010—

New details in the alleged confession from Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, give an emotional and descriptive account of what he says were Holloways last moments that night she died.

The Telegraaf reported that they viewed the videotaped conversation, which lasted two and a half hours, yesterday of van der Sloots most recent interview with RTL 5, a Dutch television station. This latest alleged confession was shot at a hotel in Dusseldorf, Germany. A full interview is expected to air this Sunday on the network.

According to the Dutch tabloid, van der Sloot reveals the surname of his 20-year-old accomplice, A., and describes in detail how they allegedly brought Holloway to a friend's house where he says they drank whiskey and used cocaine.

"A. had just put on the music. And eh, they both had just taken some coke." Van der Sloot claims Holloway and A. snorted the drugs before Holloway decided to climb up onto the rim of the balcony to dance. "I think she was pretty drunk," van der Sloot added, "so she was just kind of dancing half a striptease, just like she was doing on stage at Carlos & Charlies."

The Dutch tabloid noted van der Sloot becoming more emotional as he described in detail what he says happened next.

"Then I walked over to her to dance with her a little.... And eh, I grabbed her by the hips. When I let go, she fell from the balcony..."

"We looked down and saw her lying there. Yes, there was blood. I think she fell on the ground with her head first." Van der Sloot continued to say that they both ran the steps to Natalee. "Her chin was to one side and I turned it the other way. There was blood on the ground too. There was no life."

The Justice Department in Aruba is quick to dismiss the details of this latest alleged confession, telling ABC News that "We have been aware of the existence of this interview since August of last year. We investigated the claims made. The Aruban police investigated, with help from specialists with the Dutch police.

Spokeswoman for the Aruban Justice Department, Ann Angela continued to say that their "conclusion was that the statements made by Joran van der Sloot are entirely unbelievable."

Chief Prosecutor in Aruba, Peter Blanken told ABC News, "It's a story that in and of itself does fit in terms of timing. But all the other things that could be investigated, and that means the story about the witnesses [&], the house, the height of the balcony, all those types of things don't add up in Joran van der Sloot's statement."

This alleged confession comes almost two years after undercover tapes were released by Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries, in which van der Sloot appears to admit he was present when Holloway died and that he helped dump her body in the ocean. De Vries, who sat down for an exclusive interview with ABC News' Chris Cuomo back in 2008 after the tapes went public, says he is "totally convinced Joran is telling the truth" on the tape. "Joran is telling the truth about what happened to Natalee," De Vries told Cuomo, adding that "she died in his arms on the beach that night."

The chief prosecutor in the Holloway case, Peter Blanken, told 'De Telegraaf' that the so-called confession in 2008 resulted in a new investigation into the disappearance of Holloway, but eventually concluded without results. "It became clear that this statement is held together by lies and fantasy," Blanken said. "Times are wrong and named witnesses have denied."

Holloway went missing back in May 2005 during a high school graduation trip to Aruba. Her disappearance received international attention.

The Man Who Lured Van der Sloot to Talk
In the ABC interview in 2008 Patrick van der Eem, described in detail how he painstakingly gained the young Dutch suspect's trust, took his suspicions to Holland's leading investigative reporter and began a sting operation that led to van der Sloot's caught-on-camera admissions.

"I am telling you honestly, I know what happened to that girl," van der Sloot told Van der Eem, on the undercover video. He goes on to say that Holloway died in his arms and that he called a friend to dispose of her body.

On the tape, van der Sloot further describes to van der Eem that Holloway suffered a seizure during a romantic encounter between the pair, who had met hours before at a local nightclub.

At another point, he told van der Eem, "I tried to shake her, and I was shaking the b****. I was like, 'What is wrong with you man?' I almost wanted to cry."

Van der Sloot said he feels lucky the police were not able to recover Holloway's body. "I think I am incredibly lucky that she's never been found because if she had been found I would be in deep [excrement]," van der Sloot also said on the tape.

De Vries dismissed van der Sloot's claim that he was lying on the tape or that drugs affected his statement, saying "I don't buy these allegations."

Joran Talks
In an exclusive interview with ABC News' Chris Cuomo in 2006, van der Sloot said he planned to have sex with Holloway when they left a bar together.

"We were planning on going to my house, because she said she wanted to go to my house," he said. "My intention was to take her to the house to have sex with her." But the couple did not end up sleeping together, he told Cuomo. "I asked her if she wanted to have sex, and she was fine with it," he said. "I didn't have a condom with me though in my wallet, and I won't have sex with a girl without a condom."

Holloway, who was visiting Aruba on a school trip, met van der Sloot at a casino the night she disappeared. How they met and what went on between them has been the focus of endless speculation by officials and Holloway's friends and family.

"I sat down there and within five minutes, there was a group of girls from the Mountain Brook school that came up to me and sat down next to me and they wanted to play as well," van der Sloot told Cuomo. "They'd already been drinking that day and had drinks with them. We played blackjack for a while, and I told them whether or not to hit."

'I Didn't Want Anyone to Know'
Van der Sloot admitted in the 2006 interview that he had a reputation in Aruba as a ladies' man, but he said he has been portrayed "unfairly" as a "murderer and a rapist and everything I'm not."

"In Aruba that was part of my lifestyle ... going out, being single and picking up girls," he said. "Going out with them, having a good time and then saying goodbye." Soon after admittedly lying to police about having dropped Holloway off at her hotel, van der Sloot became the main suspect in the case.

Van der Sloot -- along with Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe -- were arrested June 9, 2005 on suspicion of involvement in Holloway's disappearance. Van der Sloot admitted that he was with her but denied any wrongdoing at the time. All were released after a court ruled that there wasn't enough evidence to hold them. Van der Sloot said he didn't want to tell the truth because he was scared.

"I didn't want anyone to know," he told Cuomo. "I didn't want anyone to know I left her at the beach."
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 05:21:39 PM »

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=638_1267194878

Holloway fell over balcony, says Van der Sloot


American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.

The Telegraaf, which has seen the 2.5 hour interview, says an emotional Van der Sloot made the confession in a hotel room in Dusseldorf.

Former police chief Gerard Dompig, who More..was involved in the initial investigation into Holloway's disappearance on the Caribbean island of Aruba in May 2005, says he believes the claim is worth further investigation.

Van der Sloot's new story fits with the time line and is very specific on the details, he told the Telegraaf.

Aruban officials have already dismissed the new statement as 'fantasy and lies'.

Whisky

In the statement, Van der Sloot says he, Natalee and another friend went to the friend's house where they took cocaine and drunk whisky.

Natalee climbed on to the edge of the balcony, he said. 'I think she was really drunk, so she started doing a sort of half strip tease, like she did on stage at Carls & Charlies,' he said.

'I walked to her to dance with her a bit, and I held her hips and when I let go she fell over the balcony.'

When the two ran down stairs, they found Natalee on the ground with a lot of blood. 'I think she hit the ground with her head first,' he is quoted as saying.

The two young men then put the body in a car and hid it in a swamp where he lost a shoe, he claims.

Alibi

The other youth has been given an alibi by his mother, the Telegraaf reports.

The new confession will be broadcast on RTL5 on Sunday night.

In 2008, Dutch tv crime journalist Peter R. de Vries claimed he had solved the mystery surrounding the girl's disappearance using a plant and a hidden camera.

During the programme, Van der Sloot told the plant, who was working for De Vries, that the girl was completely drunk and died while they were on the beach. Her body, he said, was dumped at sea
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 05:31:07 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/26/AR2010022601733.html

Dutch TV to air new story in Holloway case


The Associated Press
Friday, February 26, 2010; 5:22 AM

AMSTERDAM -- A Dutch television station is airing an interview with the man once suspected of involvement in the disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway, in which he again claims to have disposed of her body.

Joran van der Sloot's latest confession to be broadcast by RTL Nieuws Friday doesn't fit with known facts about the Holloway case. Van der Sloot, 22, was last seen with Holloway before her disappearance while on vacation in Aruba in 2005.

He claims in the paid interview that Holloway accidentally fell from a balcony and he disposed of her body in a swamp.

He previously told an undercover reporter that she died unexpectedly while they were kissing and he dumped her body in the ocean.

Aruban prosecutors say they lack evidence to charge Van der Sloot.



Holloway fell over balcony, says Van der Sloot

Friday 26 February 2010

American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.

The Telegraaf, which has seen the 2.5 hour interview, says an emotional Van der Sloot made the confession in a hotel room in Dusseldorf.

Former police chief Gerard Dompig, who was involved in the initial investigation into Holloway's disappearance on the Caribbean island of Aruba in May 2005, says he believes the claim is worth further investigation.

Van der Sloot's new story fits with the time line and is very specific on the details, he told the Telegraaf.

Aruban officials have already dismissed the new statement as 'fantasy and lies'.

Whisky

In the statement, Van der Sloot says he, Natalee and another friend went to the friend's house where they took cocaine and drunk whisky.

Natalee climbed on to the edge of the balcony, he said. 'I think she was really drunk, so she started doing a sort of half strip tease, like she did on stage at Carls & Charlies,' he said.

'I walked to her to dance with her a bit, and I held her hips and when I let go she fell over the balcony.'

When the two ran down stairs, they found Natalee on the ground with a lot of blood. 'I think she hit the ground with her head first,' he is quoted as saying.

The two young men then put the body in a car and hid it in a swamp where he lost a shoe, he claims.

Alibi

The other youth has been given an alibi by his mother, the Telegraaf reports.

The new confession will be broadcast on RTL5 on Sunday night.

In 2008, Dutch tv crime journalist Peter R. de Vries claimed he had solved the mystery surrounding the girl's disappearance using a plant and a hidden camera.

During the programme, Van der Sloot told the plant, who was working for De Vries, that the girl was completely drunk and died while they were on the beach. Her body, he said, was dumped at sea.


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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 05:34:22 PM »

When is Joran  lying when his lips move

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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 05:35:20 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/02/27/joran-van-der-sloot-admits-to-involvement-in-death-of-natalee-holloway-is-it-really-all-a-lie-now-joran-says-natalee-fell-high-on-coke/
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 05:44:52 PM »

Holloway fell over balcony, says Van der Sloot

Friday 26 February 2010

American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.

The Telegraaf, which has seen the 2.5 hour interview, says an emotional Van der Sloot made the confession in a hotel room in Dusseldorf.

Former police chief Gerard Dompig, who was involved in the initial investigation into Holloway's disappearance on the Caribbean island of Aruba in May 2005, says he believes the claim is worth further investigation.

Van der Sloot's new story fits with the time line and is very specific on the details, he told the Telegraaf.

Aruban officials have already dismissed the new statement as 'fantasy and lies'.

Whisky

In the statement, Van der Sloot says he, Natalee and another friend went to the friend's house where they took cocaine and drunk whisky.

Natalee climbed on to the edge of the balcony, he said. 'I think she was really drunk, so she started doing a sort of half strip tease, like she did on stage at Carls & Charlies,' he said.

'I walked to her to dance with her a bit, and I held her hips and when I let go she fell over the balcony.'

When the two ran down stairs, they found Natalee on the ground with a lot of blood. 'I think she hit the ground with her head first,' he is quoted as saying.

The two young men then put the body in a car and hid it in a swamp where he lost a shoe, he claims.

Alibi

The other youth has been given an alibi by his mother, the Telegraaf reports.

The new confession will be broadcast on RTL5 on Sunday night.

In 2008, Dutch tv crime journalist Peter R. de Vries claimed he had solved the mystery surrounding the girl's disappearance using a plant and a hidden camera.

During the programme, Van der Sloot told the plant, who was working for De Vries, that the girl was completely drunk and died while they were on the beach. Her body, he said, was dumped at sea.

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 05:45:18 PM »

This video gives alot of information and shows the house and balcony.  Also identifies Andre dos Santos.  I will say Andre seems to be a troubled young man these days (from his facebook):

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/BkW9oRfyQfw&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6&amp;border=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/BkW9oRfyQfw&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6&amp;border=1</a>
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Holloway fell over balcony, says Van der Sloot

Friday 26 February 2010

American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.

The Telegraaf, which has seen the 2.5 hour interview, says an emotional Van der Sloot made the confession in a hotel room in Dusseldorf.

Former police chief Gerard Dompig, who was involved in the initial investigation into Holloway's disappearance on the Caribbean island of Aruba in May 2005, says he believes the claim is worth further investigation.

Van der Sloot's new story fits with the time line and is very specific on the details, he told the Telegraaf.

Aruban officials have already dismissed the new statement as 'fantasy and lies'.

Whisky

In the statement, Van der Sloot says he, Natalee and another friend went to the friend's house where they took cocaine and drunk whisky.

Natalee climbed on to the edge of the balcony, he said. 'I think she was really drunk, so she started doing a sort of half strip tease, like she did on stage at Carls & Charlies,' he said.

'I walked to her to dance with her a bit, and I held her hips and when I let go she fell over the balcony.'

When the two ran down stairs, they found Natalee on the ground with a lot of blood. 'I think she hit the ground with her head first,' he is quoted as saying.

The two young men then put the body in a car and hid it in a swamp where he lost a shoe, he claims.

Alibi

The other youth has been given an alibi by his mother, the Telegraaf reports.

The new confession will be broadcast on RTL5 on Sunday night.

In 2008, Dutch tv crime journalist Peter R. de Vries claimed he had solved the mystery surrounding the girl's disappearance using a plant and a hidden camera.

During the programme, Van der Sloot told the plant, who was working for De Vries, that the girl was completely drunk and died while they were on the beach. Her body, he said, was dumped at sea.

© DutchNews.nl

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 05:50:46 PM »

Natalee Holloway Snorted Coke, Fell to Death, Suspect Says
Joran van der Sloots alleged new confession asserts graphic details of the night she died


New details in the alleged confession from Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, give an emotional and descriptive account of what he says were Holloways last moments that night she died.

In a two-and-a-half-hour taped interview with a Dutch television station, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, Joran van der Sloot, gave an emotional account of what he says were Holloway?s last moments the night she died.

The Telegraaf reported that they viewed the videotaped conversation, which lasted two and a half hours, yesterday of van der Sloots most recent interview with RTL 5, a Dutch television station. This latest alleged confession was shot at a hotel in Dusseldorf, Germany. A full interview is expected to air this Sunday on the network.

According to the Dutch tabloid, van der Sloot reveals the surname of his 20-year-old accomplice, A., and describes in detail how they allegedly brought Holloway to a friend's house where he says they drank whiskey and used cocaine.
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"A. had just put on the music. And eh, they both had just taken some coke." Van der Sloot claims Holloway and A. snorted the drugs before Holloway decided to climb up onto the rim of the balcony to dance. "I think she was pretty drunk," van der Sloot added, "so she was just kind of dancing half a striptease, just like she was doing on stage at Carlos & Charlies."

The Dutch tabloid noted van der Sloot becoming more emotional as he described in detail what he says happened next.


"Then I walked over to her to dance with her a little.... And eh, I grabbed her by the hips. When I let go, she fell from the balcony..."

"We looked down and saw her lying there. Yes, there was blood. I think she fell on the ground with her head first." Van der Sloot continued to say that they both ran the steps to Natalee. "Her chin was to one side and I turned it the other way. There was blood on the ground too. There was no life."

The Justice Department in Aruba is quick to dismiss the details of this latest alleged confession, telling ABC News that "We have been aware of the existence of this interview since August of last year. We investigated the claims made. The Aruban police investigated, with help from specialists with the Dutch police.



keswoman for the Aruban Justice Department, Ann Angela continued to say that their "conclusion was that the statements made by Joran van der Sloot are entirely unbelievable."

Joran van der Sloot, 20, takes a walk to the local supermarket near the house of his parents in...
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Chief Prosecutor in Aruba, Peter Blanken told ABC News, "It's a story that in and of itself does fit in terms of timing. But all the other things that could be investigated, and that means the story about the witnesses […], the house, the height of the balcony, all those types of things don't add up in Joran van der Sloot's statement."

This alleged confession comes almost two years after undercover tapes were released by Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries , in which van der Sloot appears to admit he was present when Holloway died and that he helped dump her body in the ocean. De Vries, who sat down for an exclusive interview with ABC News' Chris Cuomo back in 2008 after the tapes went public, says he is "totally convinced Joran is telling the truth" on the tape. "Joran is telling the truth about what happened to Natalee," De Vries told Cuomo, adding that "she died in his arms on the beach that night."


The chief prosecutor in the Holloway case, Peter Blanken, told 'De Telegraaf' that the so-called confession in 2008 resulted in a new investigation into the disappearance of Holloway, but eventually concluded without results. "It became clear that this statement is held together by lies and fantasy," Blanken said. "Times are wrong and named witnesses have denied."

Holloway went missing back in May 2005 during a high school graduation trip to Aruba. Her disappearance received international attention.

The Man Who Lured Van der Sloot to Talk
In the ABC interview in 2008 Patrick van der Eem, described in detail how he painstakingly gained the young Dutch suspect's trust, took his suspicions to Holland's leading investigative reporter and began a sting operation that led to van der Sloot's caught-on-camera admissions.

"I am telling you honestly, I know what happened to that girl," van der Sloot told Van der Eem, on the undercover video. He goes on to say that Holloway died in his arms and that he called a friend to dispose of her body.

On the tape, van der Sloot further describes to van der Eem that Holloway suffered a seizure during a romantic encounter between the pair, who had met hours before at a local nightclub.

At another point, he told van der Eem, "I tried to shake her, and I was shaking the b****. I was like, 'What is wrong with you man?' I almost wanted to cry."

Van der Sloot said he feels lucky the police were not able to recover Holloway's body. "I think I am incredibly lucky that she's never been found because if she had been found I would be in deep [excrement]," van der Sloot also said on the tape.

De Vries dismissed van der Sloot's claim that he was lying on the tape or that drugs affected his statement, saying "I don't buy these allegations."

Joran Talks
In an exclusive interview with ABC News' Chris Cuomo in 2006, van der Sloot said he planned to have sex with Holloway when they left a bar together.

"We were planning on going to my house, because she said she wanted to go to my house," he said. "My intention was to take her to the house to have sex with her." But the couple did not end up sleeping together, he told Cuomo. "I asked her if she wanted to have sex, and she was fine with it," he said. "I didn't have a condom with me though in my wallet, and I won't have sex with a girl without a condom."


Holloway, who was visiting Aruba on a school trip, met van der Sloot at a casino the night she disappeared. How they met and what went on between them has been the focus of endless speculation by officials and Holloway's friends and family.

"I sat down there and within five minutes, there was a group of girls from the Mountain Brook school that came up to me and sat down next to me and they wanted to play as well," van der Sloot told Cuomo. "They'd already been drinking that day and had drinks with them. We played blackjack for a while, and I told them whether or not to hit."

'I Didn't Want Anyone to Know'
Van der Sloot admitted in the 2006 interview that he had a reputation in Aruba as a ladies' man, but he said he has been portrayed "unfairly" as a "murderer and a rapist and everything I'm not."

"In Aruba that was part of my lifestyle ... going out, being single and picking up girls," he said. "Going out with them, having a good time and then saying goodbye." Soon after admittedly lying to police about having dropped Holloway off at her hotel, van der Sloot became the main suspect in the case.

Van der Sloot -- along with Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe -- were arrested June 9, 2005 on suspicion of involvement in Holloway's disappearance. Van der Sloot admitted that he was with her but denied any wrongdoing at the time. All were released after a court ruled that there wasn't enough evidence to hold them. Van der Sloot said he didn't want to tell the truth because he was scared.

"I didn't want anyone to know," he told Cuomo. "I didn't want anyone to know I left her at the beach."
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 06:07:02 PM »

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fierljepper  PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:57 pm         

I've relooked at it once more and tried different angles, but the timelines of this new Balcony scenario just seem too tight to me. It doesn't fully fit and is a bit too complex. It would bring Joran already out of the Bubali-plas around 2:25, so he could make the 'barefoot' call to Deepak and tell him he was near McDonalds. I also believe that ALE have thoroughly investigated the Santos house, their green pick up and also questionned the dos Santos family once more. Apparently there isn't any supporting evidence to verify this story (except maybe for the Bubali plas).

Still believe Joran reveals bits and pieces of the truth in each and every lie he invents. The one element that strikes me as "too good, to not be true" in his latest scenario, is losing your shoe in the mud when you dump a body in a watery/swampy area. That makes a lot of sense. Even throwing away the other shoe later (very similar to the Daury story).

I also believe that he just makes up his 'helpers' in all stories. Like 'support characters'. First there is Daury Davens (proven innocent), even his dad (Greta tapes) and now Andre dos Santos (balcony drama) features the show. And he doesn't seem to care at all who they are and how much he hurts them by publicly incriminating them. This almost leads you to believe that there isn't a helper at all, but it's much more Joran's conscience talking to himself.

In such a context, the simplest scenario that combines elements of all lies and perfectly fits the timelines is the following:

1:40 Drop off by Kalpoes (per statements)
2:00 Natalee collapses at the beach (per "Daury" lie, per enactment of seizures)
2:10 Joran carries her to the arced area below (he referred to carrying her on the beach in his PVs)
2:10-20 Joran pushes her in the swamp and loses his shoe (per "Jaap" lie)
2:20 He limps towards McDonalds, covered in mud. Calls deepak (per Deepak's statement and maybe, maybe, maybe per 'pond witness' statement, outlined in the second picture)
3:13 Home (per records of text messages)
3:25 On computer, etc. (per records of computer traffic)







In that case there must be a shoe stuck in the brown arced muddy area somewhere and the pond witness did spot a limping, muddy Joran that night...
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The main suspect in the Natalee Holloway disappearance case, Joran van der Sloot, has told Dutch TV station RTL5 that the American teenager died after a fall from a balcony.

Partying on the island of Aruba after her graduation in 2005, he and Natalee were drunk and had taken cocaine, Joran said. She then went out onto the balcony. "I guess she was quite drunk, and she began a striptease-kind of dance," Van der Sloot is quoted in daily AD.

Natalee then had a lethal fall off the balcony. Joran and a friend took her body and dumped it in a swamp, according to daily De Telegraaf, which is also quoting from the TV interview.

New confession
Screenshots from the TV interview show that Joran was quite emotional when telling his latest story. Earlier this week the Aruba Public Prosecutor Peter Blanken confirmed to the press that Joran van der Sloot had made a new confession about his role in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. But the prosecutor added that he did not find it credible.

When told about the new confession, Natalee's father Dave told examiner.com that he would be willing to get a search party together and search all 700,000 square metres of the swamp.

A string of confessions
It is not the first time that Joran has been filmed making a new confession about his involvement in the case. He was earlier caught on secret camera talking to an accomplice of a Dutch crime reporter, and also gave an interview on Fox TV. The RTL5 interview is the first one after the death of Van der Sloot's father Paul, who was a prominent lawyer on Aruba.

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 06:26:03 PM »

Joran van der sloot: coke snorting Natalee Holloway fell off balcony

• OVER THE YEARS, DUTCH PLAYER JORAN VAN DER SLOOT CAME up with several stories about what happened to Alabama girl Natalee Holloway on May 30, 2005 on the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba. In 2008, the suspect was secretly taped saying that Holloway had died after suffering a seizure on a beach and that he had dumped her body in the sea.
  Van der Sloot's latest confession: Natalee Holloway fell - after snorting cocaine - off a balcony  and died. "She was pretty messed up, I guess", Van der Sloot told an RTL-reporter. "She started doing a striptease. Then I walked towards her to dance with her... I grabbed her hips... When I let her go, she fell of the balcony. There was blood, I think she fell head first."
  The taped confession was never aired by RTL because of doubts about whether van der Sloot was telling the truth, thus an Aruban police chief. Van der Sloot said they let her body disappear by dumping it in a swamp.


 

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2010, 07:56:41 PM »

The "friend" with the balcony and green truck was Andre Dos Santos.



I recall Andre was taken in for questioning. What was his alibi during the time NH went missing?
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Joran's confession in the Stephany Flores murder:

Andreaus Peter Joran van der Sloot (22) from Arnhem , born August 6, 1987. Marital status: single. Son of Paul and Anita van der Sloot van der Sloot. Education: Bachelor of the Han HAN Nijmegen . Living in Aruba, but enrolled in Arnhem .

Present the lawyer Luz Marina Romero Chinchay and the witness and translator of the Dutch Embassy Maurice Stein.

Questions from the police and the representative of the Public

1.Via translator: Do you have advice from a lawyer for that statement?

-My lawyer is present.

2. Explain why your statement about the murder of Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez (1921) on June 5 has failed to finish, despite the presence of a representative of the OM , the translator and the lawyer?

- Because I was tired and had not slept in 24 hours. I wanted my statement and my lawyer told me that I had better wait until the end of police investigations and the right to talk.

3. Since when you are on the Homicide Division and you know why you are being detained?

- I've been here since June 5 and that is because of the murder of Stephany Flores.

4. What do you do for work, where, since when and how much you earn?

- I have one thing in Thailand . Selling pizza, sandwiches and coffee, which I earn 20,000 euros annually. I do this already 2.5 years.

5. Why did you come to Peru and how and when you come to Lima ?

I arrived in Lima to participate in the international poker tournament, by plane from Aruba , from Bogotá, on May 14, 2010.

6. Do you know the person Elton Garcia and the person who lives Stephany Flores Tatiana Ramirez (21) was called? If yes, please indicate where and when you came to know and tell them about your relationship to them.

Elton-Garcia is a friend of mine. I met him two weeks ago to know the Atlantic City casinos in Lima . Stephany Flores, I have met in Atlantic City casinos, about May 27 She was a knowledge I have not been granted.

7. You explain further what activities you did between May 14, the day you arrived in Lima , and May 30?

- I often go to Atlantic City casinos have. I've shopped in Larco Marco and in the center of Lima . And I went to the casinos of the Marriott Hotel and Fiesta, opposite Atlantic City .

8.Where have you lived since you came to Lima on May 14 and how much you paid for this?

- I was in room 309 of Hotel TAC WONG opposite the supermarket in Miraflores, and paid 50 soles per night.

9. What were you doing on May 29 between 18.00 and 2.00 on May 30?

- On May 29th I went to Atlantic City casinos to 18.00 at blackjack and poker. I drank pisco sour whiskey and cola. I think I played blackjack 18.00 to 2.00u and 2.00u to 5.00u poker.

10. Tell in detail what happened between the murder of Stephany Flores in Room 309 of Hotel TAC and your flight to Chile .

- On May 30th I was at 2.00u with different people play poker when Stephany Flores sat at my table. Then I played cards some two to three hours, always in her presence. For five hours she told me she wanted to play more on the Intenet . They proposed a way to go together. We played for a bit and  then left to hotel TAC in Stephany's car, a black 4x4.

We arrived at around half past five and went to my room to play poker at my laptop. At one point I opened my mailbox and saw a message: "I'll murder you, mongooltje", referring to the Holloway case. I started with Stephany Flores to talk about the case. I explained that I was five years ago was arrested, I was suspicious of the disappearance of the girl. That was half hours after we had entered Room 309.

As I said, she hit me on my head with her left fist. I reacted impulsively by a blow with my right elbow to give precisely on her nose. There was blood everywhere. She seemed half unconscious. I was so angry that I had with both hands grabbed at her throat and strangled her, one minute long. Then I realized what I was doing.

I got up thinking what to do. There was also blood on my shirt and on the bed. When I took my shirt and I pushed it hard on her face, until she was dead. Then I thought: now what? I left the hotel but the receptionist told me I had to move the car. I went back to room 309. I wanted to flee the hotel. I grabbed my two bags and I drove away with the car. I do not remember where. I have about five minutes driving around. Then I took a taxi to the international airport "Jorge Chavez". Then I thought that I better not by plane could go. I took a taxi to the other side of town, at a bus terminal.

As I packed for 600 soles a taxi to another town whose name I do not remember. Since I took another taxi for 500 soles to Nazca. In Nazca someone drove me 100 soles to the following cities. When we arrived I talked with the taxi driver about the murder of Stephany Flores. "I have committed murder, I want out of Peru ," I said. "Wait for the next city," he replied. Once there, he said: "My friends are not now, maybe it's better if you have a bus takes." "You told me you would bring me to Arica , please do that too,"  I said back. The driver: "Slowly, we're going to eat something."

We did that and then came his friends turn. They asked $ 1,500 for the trip. I agreed. I had at that time only $ 500 cash in his pocket. I said I would pin the rest from an ATM. We left in a white mini van, but said the move wegpolitie our papers. The drivers then advised me to throw away a bag. I threw my briefcase beige sport away.

Then they said they would bring me to Arica when my stuff would not specify. They wanted my cell phone, my watch, two perfumes, books, clothing (including jeans and a few polos from Lacoste brand) and some other stuff. When we arrived at the border post, in Tacna , remained one of the drivers behind because his ID was fake.

I went across the border with the two Peruvians who had ridden piece from Nazca. Until we, at approximately 16:00 on May 31, arrived in Chile . I tried with my debit card to one thousand U.S. dollars, but I could only get five hundred. The Peruvians said that I also had to pay the rest. To have no problems with them, told me that I had two watches, one of the Ferrari brand, with a value of $ 7000.

I gave the watch to one of them, but the other kept it with him. I promised that I would call a day later and I was by Western Union the remaining $ 500 would make. At the time of transfer, I would tell them where they had to give back the watch. If I would have inside, I'd pay $ 500. After having agreed that, they left.

I spent the night in a hotel in Arica , I do not remember the name. A day later, on June 1st, I'm in town all day and I stayed at night caught a bus to Antofagasta . Since I took the plane to Santiago , where I arrived at 14h00. I went to a place called Vasco de Gama, where I took a shower in a hotel. I dropped my gear and took a taxi to Santiago .

Someone approached me and asked me if I ever "Coffee with feet 'had been drinking. I said no. Then he took me to a bar where naked women were serving coffee. I befriended this man and he invited me to his home. As I kept drinking liquor. I stayed there to sleep because I was drunk.

A day later I left, back to Vasco de Gama, and I saw the taxi that my picture in the newspaper and that they were looking for a murderer Holland . I asked the taxi driver to bring me to a police station. At the police station in Vasco de Gama I talked with the agents. I said: "I'm in the paper that the Peruvian police search for murder me." She looked at me weird and said 'wait'. Then a female police officer. "It is better if you go to another police station because we know nothing of."

I told the next taxi driver that I wanted to vomit. "A cousin of mine has been police chief in Santiago . If you want, I call him, "he said. I asked him to do so. He spoke five minutes and gave me the phone. In Spanish, I was managing, I explained to him that the Peruvian police searched me. He asked me where I came from. From the Netherlands , I said. When he called back a little later, he told me at the police headquarters in Santiago to go.

Along the taxi driver kept calling. He said: "My cousin tells me that she'll go for safety intercept." It took another hour before police intercepted my taxi. They drove me in a private car to the Migration Service in Santiago . They explained that I was not arrested was that I could do what I wanted. I used the computer and ate. Until I was told that my extradition to Peru soon.

I said I did not agree that I wanted to talk with a lawyer. They told me that I have nothing to say. That a decision by the government. I asked if I could not be extradited to the Netherlands . That would see them. Then they repeated that I was not arrested, but to take me because of a decision from higher up the country would expand, to Peru .

11. How were you dressed and Stephany on May 30?

- I had a blue jeans, which brand I do not know. I have several. Furthermore, a beige shirt with long sleeves and white Nike sneakers that I wear now. Stephany had a blue jeans. And a polo shirt and shoes, I think.

12. Do you get an object used to kill Stephany?

- No

13. Specify where you have beaten her and how often.

- I saw her only once beaten her nose with my right elbow.

14. Is Prince racket in the hotel room was found for the murder?

- The racket that you showed me, I did not used to save the victim.

15. Is this garment of One Star Converse, beige, with long sleeves and blood, the same clothing you wore on May 30 and used to Stephany to suffocate?

- Yes.

16. Who is this white-turquoise purse at the place of offense was found and there was what exactly?

- From Stephany. There were three fit, one Visa, one of a bank, an ID card. And an amount of 850 soles.

17. What happened to the contents of the wallet happened after you had slain Stephany?

- Stephany I knew had money, but I did not know much and I knew not that fit. They exchanged their chips in before leaving the casino. After having killed her, I took after her and her money.

18. If after the murder further property (like jewelry) by Stephany stolen?

- She had no jewels. I've only her stolen jeep.

19. Why did you leave the jeep when passing Jorge Chavez-Surco?

I do not know, because I thought not clear and the city of Lima does not know.

20. What was the true motive for Stephany to murder?

- I do not know. But when she hit me on my head, I became lost control of my actions. I did not know what I did. I know now what I did, but the motive is unknown to me. It was an impulsive act after a blow to my head I had.

21. Why you fled to Chile after the assassination and gave you about the police, while that in Peru could have done?

- I'm not clear after. I would just as soon as possible away from the crime scene and leave the country. But when I arrived in Chile and saw my picture in the newspapers, I decided to surrender to the Chilean authorities.

22. Why did you room 309 after the murder to return with two cups of coffee in hand?

- I do not know. I simply do not know what I was thinking.

23. If after the murder at any time considered the victim's body to hide?

- Yes, that thought has gone through my head. But I could not stand it anymore, there was a lot of blood in the room.

24. How do you explain the wounds in the face and several parts of the body and skull fracture noted during the autopsy?

- I do not know how these injuries have been achieved.

25. As you have indicated you Stephany strangled with both hands. Specifies where the victim was found and what position you took time.

- They sat on the bed when I gave her a hard elbow. I think her head hit the wall backwards. Then she started to bleed. Then I immediately sat down on her and started to strangle her with two hands. I gave her one minute so held. Then I saw her on the floor. But she was still breathing. Then I turned off my shirt and pressed her face hard-n. I do not know how long but she stopped breathing. I think I got her so slain.

26. Is it true that you then have attracted her clothes and if so, why?

- I really do not know, but I think so. It was after her to have slain. It was her pants and her shoes, but nothing else. I do not know why I did it.

27. Where would you have the body of Stephany want to hide?

No idea, but it also occurred to me.

28. What attracted you garment after the murder, given that the shirt covered with blood?

- A red black striped shirt with a V-neck.

29. Do you have the blood of the floor swept and if so, which?

- Yes. With the duvet and sheets.

30. Give a description of the appearance of those flight to Arica possible.

Three men have driven me to Arica . The first was thin, hairy, small and had a dark skin. He brought me to Nazca Ica. The second was heavily built, dark hair, long and he brought me from Nazca to Arica and had a dark skin. The third was the brother of the first and looked at him, but his face was a bit fuller. He was the owner of the vehicle. She asked me money and have robbed me of my Nokia phone, garments, my Ferrari watch worth $ 7,000 and two perfumes which I forgot the brand. They said they would show me if I would not give money.

31. Are you for the championship of the Latin America Poker Tour casino Atlancic City came and, if so, standing before you enrolled?

- Yes, I came to this tournament. But I was not registered because the organization until June 1 would arrive.

32 - Which phone rang Stephany you and where is the phone?

- I had a Peruvian SIM card, but I ID. One of the taxi drivers, the phone, it is Carlos Alberto EURIB Pretil.

33. What things did you have with you when you left room 309 after the murder?

-A backpack with papers, laptop, clothes and a beige bag with clothing, books. The money I took from Stephany's wallet, when I added my own money.

34. Stephany won money when they played in the casino with you and if so how much?

- I do not think they would gain.

35. For what reason did you Stephany to Room 309?

In order to continue playing poker on the Inter net .

36. Stephany said what to you when they hit you on your head?

- I was explaining it to me five years earlier was accused of the suppression of a girl because I get a message through Facebook had received. She listened to me and suddenly it hit me. I do not know why.

37. Why did you kill Stephany?

- After I had given her a slap, I was afraid they would leave to the police and that she would hold me. It was an impulsive act. I think I killed her because I thought not.

38. According to the autopsy report had Stephany amphetamines in her blood. Have you given her something to drink that contained amphetamine?

- No

39. You drank together in the casino and if so, what and how much?

- I Pepsi, pisco sour whiskey and cola. Stephany and wine, I believe. I stole something from 18.00h to ten glasses of wine.

40. Where does the money come you left the country?

- I had $ 25,000 with me when I walked in Peru , but I have not declared. I Chile I pinned on June 2 $ 500. That was my Click2Pay account, an organization that facilitates payment via the Inter net . I have a pass but has remained in Chile with my belongings.

41. Where did that $ 25,000 come from and why has this not shown?

- I made a TV show about Inter net fraud, and for that information I received  $25,000 from Uri Geller from the Netherlands . First $ 10,000 in cash and then $ 15,000 in my bank account of SNS Bank in the Netherlands . I also have  an ABN account. Furthermore I had received $ 9,000 for providing information about the Holloway case one Quinsy John Kelly. A week before I arrived in Peru I had won $ 6,000 in casinos in Aruba . Moreover, I have some poker accounts. I travel around the world with a lot of money playing poker and I am never on. I do not see why I should be doing. It takes only time that questions about the origin of the money.

42. If you've already committed a serious offense or you've been involved? If so, why and where?

- The only event was the Holloway case in Aruba five years ago, for various suspicions.

QUESTIONS OF THE ADVOCATE

43. Have you voluntarily surrendered or were the brothers and Aparcana Pisconte EURIB Pretil who suggested that?

- Yes, I have voluntarily surrendered. It was my decision.

44. Do you have something to add or change to this statement?

"I want to read everything. And I wish to discuss the Natalee Holloway case. There are chances that if this process quickly and smoothly, I am extradited to Aruba . I want to talk about the case but not now. I want to talk with the police in Aruba . If there is a risk that the case be closed, then I am willing to assist in clarifying it."

And it has nothing to add.
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