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« Reply #1240 on: June 20, 2010, 09:54:49 PM »

For years at the family Sunday dinners, they have all made fun of me and said that if
there was evidence, Aruba would have arrested Joran and the Kalpoes.

Today was a whole different story.  It was Old Eli who first said: Well, I don't think
I believe that Joran Van der Snoot anymore.  If Aruba had arrested him this girl in
Peru would still be alive.
Then somebody said:  I hope Peru will hang him; he's an animal.
Then I heard:  It is all Aruba's fault for not stopping him after Natalee's death. It was all a cover-up.
Etc..etc..etc.

I felt vindicated.
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #1241 on: June 20, 2010, 09:56:57 PM »

We could tell and I mean for a fact certain that not only was Joran guilty but that he would likely kill again!  We knew he was guilty and that's why we have been here for five long years.

So how could we know and garner this from the facts available and yet Aruba be so clueless?

Answer:  If we knew, they for damn sure did and yet they REFUSED to collect evidence the way Peru did from the start.  These people are so arrogant they think tourists are disposable and they are at liberty to treat them any way the please--no one can stop them for they are a law unto themselves, accountable to none of the social contracts of other civilized people.


I agree with everything you said Anna.

Me too! 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1242 on: June 20, 2010, 09:57:03 PM »

We could tell and I mean for a fact certain that not only was Joran guilty but that he would likely kill again!  We knew he was guilty and that's why we have been here for five long years.

So how could we know and garner this from the facts available and yet Aruba be so clueless?

Answer:  If we knew, they for damn sure did and yet they REFUSED to collect evidence the way Peru did from the start.  These people are so arrogant they think tourists are disposable and they are at liberty to treat them any way the please--no one can stop them for they are a law unto themselves, accountable to none of the social contracts of other civilized people.


I agree with everything you said Anna.
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« Reply #1243 on: June 20, 2010, 09:59:57 PM »

For years at the family Sunday dinners, they have all made fun of me and said that if
there was evidence, Aruba would have arrested Joran and the Kalpoes.

Today was a whole different story.  It was Old Eli who first said: Well, I don't think
I believe that Joran Van der Snoot anymore.  If Aruba had arrested him this girl in
Peru would still be alive.
Then somebody said:  I hope Peru will hang him; he's an animal.
Then I heard:  It is all Aruba's fault for not stopping him after Natalee's death. It was all a cover-up.
Etc..etc..etc.

I felt vindicated.

Good for you Magnolia!  I know I have experienced the same treatment from others over the years, NOW it's a whole different story.  They are all starting to see what we've seen all along.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1244 on: June 20, 2010, 10:00:25 PM »

We could tell and I mean for a fact certain that not only was Joran guilty but that he would likely kill again!  We knew he was guilty and that's why we have been here for five long years.

So how could we know and garner this from the facts available and yet Aruba be so clueless?

Answer:  If we knew, they for damn sure did and yet they REFUSED to collect evidence the way Peru did from the start.  These people are so arrogant they think tourists are disposable and they are at liberty to treat them any way the please--no one can stop them for they are a law unto themselves, accountable to none of the social contracts of other civilized people.


I agree with everything you said Anna.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1245 on: June 20, 2010, 10:04:36 PM »

For years at the family Sunday dinners, they have all made fun of me and said that if
there was evidence, Aruba would have arrested Joran and the Kalpoes.

Today was a whole different story.  It was Old Eli who first said: Well, I don't think
I believe that Joran Van der Snoot anymore.  If Aruba had arrested him this girl in
Peru would still be alive.
Then somebody said:  I hope Peru will hang him; he's an animal.
Then I heard:  It is all Aruba's fault for not stopping him after Natalee's death. It was all a cover-up.
Etc..etc..etc.

I felt vindicated.

I'm right with you Magnolia.  It is a good feeling.  But in the same instance it is sad that another murder had to happen for people to believe what we have known all along.

My one sister tried to tell me something about the case and I go to her "are you kidding me" I know all I need to know about Joran van der Sloot.
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« Reply #1246 on: June 20, 2010, 10:05:33 PM »

We could tell and I mean for a fact certain that not only was Joran guilty but that he would likely kill again!  We knew he was guilty and that's why we have been here for five long years.

So how could we know and garner this from the facts available and yet Aruba be so clueless?

Answer:  If we knew, they for damn sure did and yet they REFUSED to collect evidence the way Peru did from the start.  These people are so arrogant they think tourists are disposable and they are at liberty to treat them any way the please--no one can stop them for they are a law unto themselves, accountable to none of the social contracts of other civilized people.


I agree with everything you said Anna.

What gave you the first hint....LOL
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« Reply #1247 on: June 20, 2010, 10:06:42 PM »

Posted by Johan555 on the front page of SM just now:

Johan
Submitted on 2010/06/20 at 5:17pm

Blaming the mother is imo unfair and let’s face it Joran hasn’t been found guilty of any crime yet.

Let us keep up the presumption of innocence until someone is proven guilty please.




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Yes sure i have send the pics also to several  biologists and they all  say it is a caribian hermit crab
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #767 8/5
« Reply #322 on: August 15, 2008, 12:12:47 AM »
I don't believe that at all,Joran is in Den Dolder
They want that we > think he is in Thailand 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3167.msg411456#msg411456


Re: Natalee Case Discussion #763 7/6
« Reply #937 on: July 11, 2008, 10:20:32 AM »
I was there several times 
I think they have to protect him
So when he wants to leave the facility there is alway another person next to him (police or a small bodyguard)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3029.msg398093#msg398093



Re: Natalee Case Discussion #760 6/22
« Reply #328 on: June 24, 2008, 12:51:48 PM »
Sorry this is not Joran
This is a look a like
Joran is in Den Dolder (Altrecht )

johan555 member of
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a frog as his avatar on this forum
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johan555 on Oct 31, 08 at 05:15 PM
Hawaiiis beautiful!! I love the place. The people are so friendly and the landscape is awesome. To me it is "The" paradise.
I was 2 times robbed on Aruba and the whole island is 1 big party

I would always choose Hawaii!
http://www.fodors.com/community/caribbean-islands/aruba-or-hawaii.cfm


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« Reply #1248 on: June 20, 2010, 10:07:19 PM »

I miss the smileys and I saw that I could change the subject and message icon and I said this will due for now...LOL
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« Reply #1249 on: June 20, 2010, 10:08:30 PM »

For years at the family Sunday dinners, they have all made fun of me and said that if
there was evidence, Aruba would have arrested Joran and the Kalpoes.

Today was a whole different story.  It was Old Eli who first said: Well, I don't think
I believe that Joran Van der Snoot anymore.  If Aruba had arrested him this girl in
Peru would still be alive.
Then somebody said:  I hope Peru will hang him; he's an animal.
Then I heard:  It is all Aruba's fault for not stopping him after Natalee's death. It was all a cover-up.
Etc..etc..etc.

I felt vindicated.

Bravo, Magnolia.  I bet they are now convinced, too, that there is an oil spill in the Gulf.  LOL
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« Reply #1250 on: June 20, 2010, 10:11:19 PM »

No wonder this schmuck was a buddy of the monster.......now he claims he was aware of Joran having some type of psychological tests.......wonder who's lining his pockets now

FOXNews.com - Mother of Murder Suspect Van Der Sloot Says He Is 'Sick in His Head'


John Ludwick

The only comment i can make on that topic is when we were together in Aruba i was aware he recently did undergo some psychologial tests.
40 minutes ago

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000463930273

I'm going to shut that guys mouth up so quick it is going to make everyone's head spin. DON'T MAKE ME POST THE SUCKERS!!!!!

I'm just a tiny ity bit sick of these people lying their buttinsky's off to cover-up.

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tick..............tock

keep on talking Johnny boy
Keep it up.

I'm watching.

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« Reply #1251 on: June 20, 2010, 10:11:44 PM »

I'm borng people?

Well, I found two brand new programs in one night pretty exciting myself.

The first one had that smartass Bryan Burroughs who wrote that nasty article in Vanity Fair long ago, suddenly singing a different song but still pretending it was some how Beth's fault that Aruba "turned" on her.

And the second was a good review and very open with the fact that aruba refused to do anything with lots of JQK.  And Dave Holloway as well.

There is no defense for Aruba refusing to even try to collect evidence for ten days.  Peru has put Aruba to shame.  And I hope they drown in that shame.
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« Reply #1252 on: June 20, 2010, 10:12:13 PM »

I miss the smileys and I saw that I could change the subject and message icon and I said this will due for now...LOL


and a big thumbs up to you too, San.
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« Reply #1253 on: June 20, 2010, 10:12:27 PM »

Magnolia I think I need a new hat.
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« Reply #1254 on: June 20, 2010, 10:13:49 PM »

For years at the family Sunday dinners, they have all made fun of me and said that if
there was evidence, Aruba would have arrested Joran and the Kalpoes.

Today was a whole different story.  It was Old Eli who first said: Well, I don't think
I believe that Joran Van der Snoot anymore.  If Aruba had arrested him this girl in
Peru would still be alive.
Then somebody said:  I hope Peru will hang him; he's an animal.
Then I heard:  It is all Aruba's fault for not stopping him after Natalee's death. It was all a cover-up.
Etc..etc..etc.

I felt vindicated.

You can be very proud of yourself for standing in truth all these years.

I gotta back away.............my trigger finger is about to pull that Ludwigs pants down.
Gonna take a walk or maybe I'll email Geraldo! Heh Heh.




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« Reply #1255 on: June 20, 2010, 10:15:02 PM »

I'm borng people?

Well, I found two brand new programs in one night pretty exciting myself.

The first one had that smartass Bryan Burroughs who wrote that nasty article in Vanity Fair long ago, suddenly singing a different song but still pretending it was some how Beth's fault that Aruba "turned" on her.

And the second was a good review and very open with the fact that aruba refused to do anything with lots of JQK.  And Dave Holloway as well.

There is no defense for Aruba refusing to even try to collect evidence for ten days.  Peru has put Aruba to shame.  And I hope they drown in that shame.

Please do not think you are boring anyone. I read your posts and gather the info.........
I just am not posting to each post, but take heart I do read all the posts.

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« Reply #1256 on: June 20, 2010, 10:15:36 PM »

I'm borng people?

Well, I found two brand new programs in one night pretty exciting myself.

The first one had that smartass Bryan Burroughs who wrote that nasty article in Vanity Fair long ago, suddenly singing a different song but still pretending it was some how Beth's fault that Aruba "turned" on her.

And the second was a good review and very open with the fact that aruba refused to do anything with lots of JQK.  And Dave Holloway as well.

There is no defense for Aruba refusing to even try to collect evidence for ten days.  Peru has put Aruba to shame.  And I hope they drown in that shame.

No you are not boring Anna.  I agree Peru has put Aruba to shame at every level.
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« Reply #1257 on: June 20, 2010, 10:16:10 PM »

I'm borng people?

Well, I found two brand new programs in one night pretty exciting myself.

The first one had that smartass Bryan Burroughs who wrote that nasty article in Vanity Fair long ago, suddenly singing a different song but still pretending it was some how Beth's fault that Aruba "turned" on her.

And the second was a good review and very open with the fact that aruba refused to do anything with lots of JQK.  And Dave Holloway as well.

There is no defense for Aruba refusing to even try to collect evidence for ten days.  Peru has put Aruba to shame.  And I hope they drown in that shame.

No Anna - you aren't boring San is just playing around.  Not bored at you she is just missing the smileys and is fooling around with the SUBJECT because you can choose a message icon there.  LOL
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« Reply #1258 on: June 20, 2010, 10:16:45 PM »

For years at the family Sunday dinners, they have all made fun of me and said that if
there was evidence, Aruba would have arrested Joran and the Kalpoes.

Today was a whole different story.  It was Old Eli who first said: Well, I don't think
I believe that Joran Van der Snoot anymore.  If Aruba had arrested him this girl in
Peru would still be alive.
Then somebody said:  I hope Peru will hang him; he's an animal.
Then I heard:  It is all Aruba's fault for not stopping him after Natalee's death. It was all a cover-up.
Etc..etc..etc.

I felt vindicated.

Bravo, Magnolia.  I bet they are now convinced, too, that there is an oil spill in the Gulf.  LOL

Someone even said:....stuff Van der Sloot in the BP well.  Smile
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« Reply #1259 on: June 20, 2010, 10:16:53 PM »

For years at the family Sunday dinners, they have all made fun of me and said that if
there was evidence, Aruba would have arrested Joran and the Kalpoes.

Today was a whole different story.  It was Old Eli who first said: Well, I don't think
I believe that Joran Van der Snoot anymore.  If Aruba had arrested him this girl in
Peru would still be alive.
Then somebody said:  I hope Peru will hang him; he's an animal.
Then I heard:  It is all Aruba's fault for not stopping him after Natalee's death. It was all a cover-up.
Etc..etc..etc.

I felt vindicated.

You can be very proud of yourself for standing in truth all these years.

I gotta back away.............my trigger finger is about to pull that Ludwigs pants down.
Gonna take a walk or maybe I'll email Geraldo! Heh Heh.


Go email Geraldo about that idiot John Ludwick.
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