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« Reply #180 on: June 18, 2010, 12:25:09 AM »

A FATHER’S DESPERATION! A FATHER’S ANGUISH!

Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway

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I grasped at straws. I was desperate. I bloodied by hands from ripping up rocks on the beach in the hopes of finding one tiny shred of evidence. I performed the revolting task of tearing through the contents of a garbage dump in search of my daughter’s body. I scoured crack houses looking to see if Natalee was being held captive in one of them. When officials found out that Americans were going into those places and shaking things up, they became infuriated and told me to back off.

I am a father who has no idea what has happened to my child. The questions run through my mind all day long. They keep me awake at night. Is she dead? Is she alive? Is she being held captive somewhere? Are they hurting her? Is she crying out for me? I need to know. I need to find some peace, one way or another.
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #181 on: June 18, 2010, 12:26:34 AM »

Joran's Ex Gives Weird Televised Interview

http://jezebel.com/5566135/jorans-ex-gives-weird-televised-interview

Melody Granadillo dated Dutch murderer Joran Van der Sloot in October, 2003, just two years before he allegedly killed American teenager Natalee Holloway. And now she's coming forward to talk about her famous ex-boyfriend.

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After all that Van der Sloot has done, I find Granadillo's "coming forward" kind of gross. The preview promises we will learn why she is talking to the press now, but I suspect we already know why. Granadillo is riding Van der Sloot's coattails to her 15 minutes of fame. Our sustained fascination with Van der Sloot has allowed someone like Granadillo to capitalize on a teenage relationship. Though she may feign disgust at what Van der Sloot has done, she remained friends with him long after he had been accused of murder, long after he had given police false information about the location of Natalee Holloway's body. Perhaps she was blinded by the memory of her first love, but if she can't see him clearly now, she never will. He may have given her skittles and hickeys, but he ended the lives of two other young women - Granadillo should try not to forget that fact when describing her "romantic" ex.

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People are shredding her a new b-hole.



And she is putting Aruba in the media in a very bad light by connecting it to Joran yet again.

AHATA/ATA can't be happy with Melody for doing this strange article even if it is sort of in defense of the monster.

It's still very bad for tourism.

Maybe this will result in a fracture in the island cohesion, this and Anita's antics.  I would love to see all of them turn on the Sloot faction.  Maybe then we would actually get some answers.

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« Reply #182 on: June 18, 2010, 12:27:32 AM »



{{{HUGS}}} Miss Tib !!

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Good to see you Tibro!  I feel for you with the allergies...hope you're better soon!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #183 on: June 18, 2010, 12:30:54 AM »

It wouldn`t surprise me if Melody was X.


X, May 27 at 5:47 - Well, I would gladly do so because you're .. If you do it half early June, then I can give you up to 300. It is my phone bill was 270 euros. Gio tired and I do. Sorry that I promised, if you do not have money in June or need for something, let me know ok? Sorry honey!

Joran, May 27 at 8:52 p.m. - Say no equal. I have enough money, now just need help and counting on, I'd like you really hear the double return. But never mind, my mom is helping me already. Leave me alone, okay. Greetings and success.

X, May 27 at 9:04 p.m. - Whahah, oh, so with that I could only make up and now you're mad, oh baby, not raised, there are worse people in your life.  Haha, and I suppose you could give (because now you no longer need) when I get it back? And ps: what is this crazy site, everything is in English.

Joran, May 27 at 9:24 p.m. - I told you twice returned as soon as I was in Aruba, but you're the only talk and nothing else. I always keep my word and take good care of people like you, so what you do not understand? Leave me alone. If you do not help me when I most need now, then you have no value for me. If you had asked me for help I had done it right. Greetings and success in your life.

Sure seems that way.  This speaks volumes if it is her.  Definitely tells me a lot about what he truly thinks of women.  He's definitely a woman hater, among many, many other things....


Again, no, Mellany would say her phone bill in florins and not euros.  Ludwick likely in florins or dollars.  I think it is ssomebody in NL or even Thailand.


Melony is exaggerating her contacts with Joran to enhance her ability to sell interviews, etc.



Kirk Atkinson aka WhiteOut the co-owner of the coffee shop in Thailand, now the owner?  Very possible.


Hello Monkeys.  Great to see all the old familiar names posting.  It is a struggle to keep up with events but I am pleased to see the lying, murdering monster is where he belongs - in a hell hole with all the other dregs of mankind.

Klaas not sure of where this Kirk Atkinson comes from but it is a very British name and the Brits rarely talk easily in Euros as they still favour their Pounds.

Also anyone in Thailand would not talk in Euros as in those parts of Asia the common foreign currency is American Dollars.  Everything in their currency is instantly converted to US$ for tourists.  The tourists then have to do their own calculation to their currency to see what the items are actually worth to them, and if they are a bargain or not.

Hope this helps,

The blog publishes an instant-message exchange it says is between Van der Sloot and a 20-year-old girlfriend five days before Flores was killed. In it, he asks her to wire him 300 euros in Peru. He claims his wallet has been stolen.

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=104&pid=0&sid=1979526&page=3
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« Reply #184 on: June 18, 2010, 12:35:28 AM »

Tibro - Very informative. Good stuff. thank you!

You're welcome, Carpe

We have travelled to some parts of Asia but never Thailand, even though we know some very nice Thai people living here.  It has a very bad reputation in this part of the world for being a pervert's paradise.  Child pornography and prostitution is only a couple of their offerings for locals and tourists.  For those who do "pick-up" a girl for a night's entertainment the surprise can be that she is a male.  They have some disgusting practices and all manner of deviants - very few decent living people go there unless with a reputable travel group.

Joran chose the right place for his proclivities.
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« Reply #185 on: June 18, 2010, 12:38:54 AM »

Good to see you, Tibro!

And I also believe Thailand does not have extradition treaty with The Netherlands.  I don't think Joran wanted sent back after being chased through the streets.

They do have caning, I believe.  I had always hoped he would be caught doing something illegal there and be caned.

Just a personal fantasy of mine, lol.

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« Reply #186 on: June 18, 2010, 12:39:20 AM »

There was another photo of Joran at the bingo games, if that's him, doing something like picking up cards afterwards.  Did he have an actual real job of some sort?  If you can call that a job.

But I am thinking that's why he has a badge.  Otherwise, if he is just wearing one about and one that large, he truly is certifiable.

That would be totally strange.  Even for Joran.

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Maybe he was the official Bingo police?
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« Reply #187 on: June 18, 2010, 12:40:38 AM »

So we still don't know why the PoPo were talking to Julia?  Maybe somebody should tell her that black is NOT her color!
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« Reply #188 on: June 18, 2010, 12:40:58 AM »



{{{HUGS}}} Miss Tib !!

Hi None and Hugs. Glad your work and travel are allowing you to spend time here lately.  I have been finding it difficult to keep up here, just reading, with duties and allergies to contend with.  Send me an email some time


Good to see you Tibro!  I feel for you with the allergies...hope you're better soon!

Hi TxMom.  Thank you.  Wrong time of year for allergies here but I keep managing to find something that disagrees with me lol

Hope all is well with you.  Appreciate your help with the translations.
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« Reply #189 on: June 18, 2010, 12:42:29 AM »

There was another photo of Joran at the bingo games, if that's him, doing something like picking up cards afterwards.  Did he have an actual real job of some sort?  If you can call that a job.

But I am thinking that's why he has a badge.  Otherwise, if he is just wearing one about and one that large, he truly is certifiable.

That would be totally strange.  Even for Joran.

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Maybe he was the official Bingo police?


Well, I guessed Bingo Patrol as they like that word in Aruba.  But seems it is more likely just his favorite soccer shirt.
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« Reply #190 on: June 18, 2010, 12:43:55 AM »

Joran's Ex Gives Weird Televised Interview

http://jezebel.com/5566135/jorans-ex-gives-weird-televised-interview

Melody Granadillo dated Dutch murderer Joran Van der Sloot in October, 2003, just two years before he allegedly killed American teenager Natalee Holloway. And now she's coming forward to talk about her famous ex-boyfriend.

-snip-

After all that Van der Sloot has done, I find Granadillo's "coming forward" kind of gross. The preview promises we will learn why she is talking to the press now, but I suspect we already know why. Granadillo is riding Van der Sloot's coattails to her 15 minutes of fame. Our sustained fascination with Van der Sloot has allowed someone like Granadillo to capitalize on a teenage relationship. Though she may feign disgust at what Van der Sloot has done, she remained friends with him long after he had been accused of murder, long after he had given police false information about the location of Natalee Holloway's body. Perhaps she was blinded by the memory of her first love, but if she can't see him clearly now, she never will. He may have given her skittles and hickeys, but he ended the lives of two other young women - Granadillo should try not to forget that fact when describing her "romantic" ex.

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Thanks Carpe.

I can't help but think others encouraged Melody to do this.  Aline, Anita, and Jan Brennan all come to mind.  JMO
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #191 on: June 18, 2010, 12:46:58 AM »

Good Night Monkeys

Eyes are hurting...been trying to catch up.

God BLESS!!

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE and STEPHANY!!

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« Reply #192 on: June 18, 2010, 12:47:05 AM »

TxMom, Agree and we know where they are going with this idea that Joran was so wonderful before all the accusations.

But the facts say otherwise.  Even Jossy has talked about how Joran bullied and took things at school and had a bad reputation.  He was in therapy for beating up another kid at school.  I think it was required so he could be allowed to attend.
One sick puppy all his life.

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« Reply #193 on: June 18, 2010, 12:52:24 AM »

Good to see you, Tibro!

And I also believe Thailand does not have extradition treaty with The Netherlands.  I don't think Joran wanted sent back after being chased through the streets.

They do have caning, I believe.  I had always hoped he would be caught doing something illegal there and be caned.

Just a personal fantasy of mine, lol.

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Hi Anna.  LOL about the caning but I think that could be on their list of fun things to do in Thailand.
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« Reply #194 on: June 18, 2010, 12:52:25 AM »

Turbo - I don't think there's a man with a shovel.  There are drugs, a weapon some "kids" and Julia Renfro

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=3729&offId=0

Great catch on spotting that story too Klaas!  Can't wait to find out what that was all about! 
I think someone stole that red car.
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« Reply #195 on: June 18, 2010, 12:53:20 AM »

So we still don't know why the PoPo were talking to Julia?  Maybe somebody should tell her that black is NOT her color!

Black is not anybody's color in a tropical climate during the day. Black is for cold weather and cities and night-time. Black calls for real shoes or boots, not dusty sandals. Doesn't she know anything?
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« Reply #196 on: June 18, 2010, 12:55:22 AM »

There was another photo of Joran at the bingo games, if that's him, doing something like picking up cards afterwards.  Did he have an actual real job of some sort?  If you can call that a job.

But I am thinking that's why he has a badge.  Otherwise, if he is just wearing one about and one that large, he truly is certifiable.

That would be totally strange.  Even for Joran.

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Maybe he was the official Bingo police?

Maybe he was the official bingo caller....... you know the guy that catches the balls and calls out the numbers.  Maybe they paid him in Bwa Ha Balls..... or whatever they are.
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« Reply #197 on: June 18, 2010, 12:57:26 AM »

Did that incident today really happen at the home of the witness "J" and what does that mean?  Am I reading too much into that or does it mean something?
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« Reply #198 on: June 18, 2010, 12:59:04 AM »

So we still don't know why the PoPo were talking to Julia?  Maybe somebody should tell her that black is NOT her color!

Black is not anybody's color in a tropical climate during the day. Black is for cold weather and cities and night-time. Black calls for real shoes or boots, not dusty sandals. Doesn't she know anything?

LOL, guess not
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« Reply #199 on: June 18, 2010, 12:59:57 AM »

What moron/friend/relative would lend Anita money to visit/defend her son?  That's a ZERO return on investment, to be sure....
Perhaps it was the same uncle who paid for the damages on the house that Joran rented in Thailand.
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