Natalee Case Discussion #840 6/17/10 - 6/22/10

[Bearlyhere]

I just saw a little blurb of the Melody interview and she said that Joran
contacted her just a few hours before he killed Stephany and she thought
OMG...here we go again.

Another person for the FBI to subpoena.

[Bearlyhere]

I just saw a little blurb of the Melody interview and she said that Joran
contacted her just a few hours before he killed Stephany and she thought
OMG...here we go again.

Remember he had contacted a former girlfriend wanting money and the girlfriend had sort of denied his request, saying she needed money herself, and he said something like never loving him, because if she did, she would send money.  I don't even think he wished her a happy illegitimate baby day.

I think all children are a gift.

[wingnut]

Link to JVDS cell for those who missed it.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/06/17/natpkg.casarez.prison.tour.cnn

Thanks Curly!  Well, at least I get the Jinkasaurus thingy now!!!

[blah]

There was another photo of Joran at the bingo games, if that's him, doing something like picking up cards afterwards.  Did he have an actual real job of some sort?  If you can call that a job.

But I am thinking that's why he has a badge.  Otherwise, if he is just wearing one about and one that large, he truly is certifiable.

That would be totally strange.  Even for Joran.

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I think that "badge" is just some emblem on a soccer jersey

[Bearlyhere]

I'm in the middle of reading the latest People magazine.

There is a large story about Joran - when I opened to the first page of the story, I was in tears as they have pics of Natalee and Stephany side by side.

The article is extremely interesting.

Lots of info about Joran (and pics) regarding his life over the last few years.

One interesting quote from Anita, "I haven't spoken with Joran in a long time.  Not since his father's death".

hmm.

anyway, thought you all might be interested.  Some inconsistencies, but interesting to read for instance, that he was evicted from his house in Thailand due to partying and tearing up the place.  Lots of quotes from people he knows, including one from a woman who said that she saw him at a casino, about to leave with a woman.  She went up to the woman and said, "do you know who he is?".  Joran called her a bitch and walked off.

All Klaas has to do is post the April 25, 2010 Bingo pic... we`ll blow that lying slug right out of the water. Next whopper, Anita?

I found it!


     

               BINGO!

[mojo]

That fellowship is why I come to this board. I don't think I am wrong. So many are good and wise.

and you are one. best wishes for a quick recovery, Hat. i've always enjoyed your posts and miss your sidekick from the old days.

[can]

Bearly, if you were posting at RWV, you might recall when she was asked if Joran liked rough sex, and she said, "once in a blue moon..." 

Then she trailed off...and a few posts later was asked if there was often more than one full moon in Aruba and she seemed to understand and said, "maybe," which leads me to believe that he likes rough sex more often than she wanted to admit. 

I believe anyone who on a forum, viewed worldwide, that talks about her sexual adventures with the murderer of young women is a fruitcake, to say the least and a (vulnerable) (opportunistic) nitwit.  Take your pick.  Her shortage of morals is augmented by her lack of gray matter, it would seem.

Yes, ABC saw her coming and they know that their viewership is among the lowest common denominator morally and ethically, so it plays big into their ratings.  Just sayin' a Cuomo is still a Cuomo, no matter where he works, and that sympathetic ear he had for Joran is pure politics for ratings.

I remember Anita once (can't remember where) telling how fond she was of Melody - how she spent so much time in Jorans place and with the family.  Sounded like very liberal parenting to me.  My kids were never allowed to bring their boyfriends and girlfriends into their bedrooms. 
I can't help but wonder if this isn't all about spinning Joran as someone
who was once normal, kind, etc. and somewhere along the line became
sick in the head = not responsible for his actions, thus requiring a mental institution.  Melody maintained a relationship with Anita.  Melody attended his celebration party when he got out of jail.  Anita has a hand in Melody's
latest actions with ABC, IMO.

Good morning Monkey's.

[Bearlyhere]

                             

[Blonde]

MELODY

When Beth and Melody's words are considered in context ... the implication is that Paulus did not pick up Joran at 11:00 PM at the Excelsior casino on the evening of May 29, 2005.  In other words ... Joran did not go home prior to going to Carlos & Charlies.

Janet

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Nancy Grace - August 3, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: Well, not only how the night unfolded at Carlos and Charlie`s, but even prior to that. This 11:00 PM pick-up on May the 29th I was able to speak with a witness also that said that Joran Van Der Sloot they were offering to give him a ride home at 11:00 PM on the 29th, but he didn`t need one because he had already called Deepak and Satish Kalpoe to pick him up. So that is something that -- you know, we know that Paul Van Der Sloot did not pick him up at 11:00 PM on the 29th. We know now that that correct pick-up time was 4:00 AM on the 30th, and Paul Van Der Sloot stated that he picked them up.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/03/ng.01.html


Melody - Joran's Former Girlfriend
Riehlworld View Posts
August, 2005

i saw him that saturday that's why, that was the 29th, but it's the 30th right? ... i was just sitting around and remembered that :$ and i asked which casino because where i saw him is very close to a casino, but the Seaport casino.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:17 AM


but Dan i SWEAR i saw him , he was standing alone leaning against a pilar.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:26 AM


wait no... thank goodness for being as big of a girly girl as i am ... i wrote down the party and the movies because the movies was the first time me and my curent boyfriend kissed :$ ... so i know for sure now.. i saw him the 29th! and before 12am. ... sorry guys,don't get mad at me for being wrong ta first...

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:33 AM


http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/natalee_hollowa_32.html

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the only thing i could ever imagine being possible, for him being involved, is
definitly him panicking by some accident.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 03:41 AM


(was talking about her saying someone stayed over at JVDS on night NH went missing)
i noticed that already Dan, you posted it the other day ...

i don't mind at all ... but as long as it's clear that that's all i know, that he slept
over and that he was called to come so that joran can tell him the girl is missing, and
that joran told him they didn't sleep together... and trust me joran won't lie to him.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 04:06 AM


whoo ... i'm really tired now...

but lastly - the friend slept over at his house but wasn't out with him, therefor he has
no alibi as to his where abouts before he got home.

and i don't know, his friend told me he called him the next day all shocked, that he had
something ot tell him, and he told him that the girl went missing. ... that must be before
natalee's parents came to him.. and being scared and preparing a story stand logically
with pretending to not know she was missing when approached by the parents, makes your
story more believable right?

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 04:26 AM




Snuff film. They killed her during sex. Max Arends, Lorenzo, Kalpoe 1 and Joran were
involved, but Joran left. He could not handle it. Holiday Inn

Lorenzo is Jaime. Max is in Florida according to Scubajap with his dad. Dilmo send him to
Florida because it was heating up? Watch Scubajap. May get you in a trap.

Posted by: angelaberdine | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 05:11 AM

[jen3560]

Yup!  And that would make perfect sense, as he's a barcelona fan.  He and Jaime C were discussing it on FB before he left Aruba for Peru.

Barcelona

[jen3560]

Joran's Ex Gives Weird Televised Interview

http://jezebel.com/5566135/jorans-ex-gives-weird-televised-interview

Melody Granadillo dated Dutch murderer Joran Van der Sloot in October, 2003, just two years before he allegedly killed American teenager Natalee Holloway. And now she's coming forward to talk about her famous ex-boyfriend.

-snip-

After all that Van der Sloot has done, I find Granadillo's "coming forward" kind of gross. The preview promises we will learn why she is talking to the press now, but I suspect we already know why. Granadillo is riding Van der Sloot's coattails to her 15 minutes of fame. Our sustained fascination with Van der Sloot has allowed someone like Granadillo to capitalize on a teenage relationship. Though she may feign disgust at what Van der Sloot has done, she remained friends with him long after he had been accused of murder, long after he had given police false information about the location of Natalee Holloway's body. Perhaps she was blinded by the memory of her first love, but if she can't see him clearly now, she never will. He may have given her skittles and hickeys, but he ended the lives of two other young women - Granadillo should try not to forget that fact when describing her "romantic" ex.

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People are shredding her a new b-hole.

Thanks Carpe.

I can't help but think others encouraged Melody to do this.  Aline, Anita, and Jan Brennan all come to mind.  JMO

I'm not so sure about Aline, TxMom.  There was a definite change in the tone (on FB anyway) with Aline when Melody posted her weird stuff, and Joran posted about having a blood test done.

I'm actually looking to Aline to 'tell all' soon.  At least, that is my hope.

[Blonde]

Link to JVDS cell for those who missed it.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/06/17/natpkg.casarez.prison.tour.cnn

Thanks Curly!  Well, at least I get the Jinkasaurus thingy now!!!

So he has a new shirt and looks bigger..

[jen3560]

So we still don't know why the PoPo were talking to Julia?  Maybe somebody should tell her that black is NOT her color!

Black is not anybody's color in a tropical climate during the day. Black is for cold weather and cities and night-time. Black calls for real shoes or boots, not dusty sandals. Doesn't she know anything?

Yeah, but it comes off with one jerk. I'm sure that saves her valuable time several times a day.

LMAO CBB!!!!

What was it she was known as?  Fluffah?

[msmarple]

Jen - did you ever speak to anyone in Palm Beach County, Florida, about Jose Pesquera?

[jen3560]

I'd bet Joran was contacting people through Facebook. 

Only on page one of this thread, but wanted to say that Joran's Facebook page is back now?!?  Where are the emoticons when you really need them?

And there are 5 fewer pictures than there were before he went on the run.

Wondering if it's Melody that has access to it?

[msmarple]

Jen - did you ever speak to anyone in Palm Beach County, Florida, about Jose Pesquera?

Sorry, that should be Jorge Pesquera.

[BooMonkey]

Link to JVDS cell for those who missed it.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/06/17/natpkg.casarez.prison.tour.cnn

Thanks Curly!  Well, at least I get the Jinkasaurus thingy now!!!

So he has a new shirt and looks bigger..

Is that a hat he's wearing? They gave him a damn hat? I hope they took everything away from him once the news crew left! If he gets good treatment b/c the news is there with cameras, I say please, no more cameras! I want him to suffer for eternity. You know he gets off on all this attention, he's enjoying this. Getting clean clothes and having his sh!thole cleaned up for their review.  Throw him back into his hole, lock the door and throw away the keys.

[Jo-An]

Melody's journal

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/slideshow/diary-joran-van-der-sloots-girlfriend-10935858

[terryd270]

Good Morning and it's Friday and I guess Joran is enjoying his two fried eggs, Country Ham, Fried Green Tomatoes, and Cheesy Stone Ground Grits. Wait thats me.  I don't believe anything will ever come from that island nor from Joran.. I'm ok knowing he will be in a prison that will be like living in hell on earth..  Any friends or past relationships with anyone is not going to bring Natalee home, so my thoughts are what was on the computer..  I don't even want to hear what Joran says, he lies and will never tell the truth..  Anyone that has relationships with him lie just as much, they enabled each other so nothing they say interest me..

Terry

[Nut44x4]

BooMonkey...that's not a hat.