Natalee Case Discussion #840 6/17/10 - 6/22/10

[can]

I believe Joran had some vague idea that he would hide Stephany's remains in a suitcase that he could carry out to her car and take to the sea.  But in order to walk through the lobby of the hotel, he would need to pay his bill and at least a few days ahead.

It was only after killing her that Joran discovered she did not have enough money for him to do that and buy a ticket back to Aruba or wherever he wanted to go.  He also saw police near the airport.

Joran did have some disorganized thought to concealing his crime and hiding the remains.  He just couldn't get it together.

I also think he had delusions of getting away the very same way he did in Aruba and made his kill as close to that one as possible partly for spite and partly because of his impulsiveness.

Totally premeditated all the way--just too bungling to pull it off.  He had to have thought of that suitcase at some point because he talked about it in his confession.

Who knows--Joran is a meglomaniac and may have even had delusions of extorting Stephany's family for years to come the way he has Natalee's.

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I think Joran also said he was in a foreign country and didn't know where he could buy a suitcase. 

Hello....yellow pages!

Yep.  Shows how disorganized he was. 

[AZSunny]

ANITA VAN DER SLOTH:

"If only he had listened to his mother. Then this never would have happened. If he hadn't been so persecuted, maybe not either. It's: 'if, if if…' But if he killed Stephany, then he will have to carry the burden of that," she said. "I will not visit him in his cell, I cannot embrace him. But he should get a fair trial. He is psychologically disturbed. That has to count for something, right?"

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/joran-van-der-sloots-mother-son-stephany-flores/story?id=10961460&page=2

If Anita wishes in one hand and spits in the other, I bet she will find which is filled more quickly.

What does she mean, "i will not visit him in his cell, I cannot embrace him.."  does that mean she literally can't hug him, or she can not 'embrace'/accept what he has done, so she won't see him? 

[can]

Van der Sloth!!! - Carpe, I can't count the number of times you've caused me to laugh out loud!!!

[cecilita]

I believe Joran had some vague idea that he would hide Stephany's remains in a suitcase that he could carry out to her car and take to the sea.  But in order to walk through the lobby of the hotel, he would need to pay his bill and at least a few days ahead.

It was only after killing her that Joran discovered she did not have enough money for him to do that and buy a ticket back to Aruba or wherever he wanted to go.  He also saw police near the airport.

Joran did have some disorganized thought to concealing his crime and hiding the remains.  He just couldn't get it together.

I also think he had delusions of getting away the very same way he did in Aruba and made his kill as close to that one as possible partly for spite and partly because of his impulsiveness.

Totally premeditated all the way--just too bungling to pull it off.  He had to have thought of that suitcase at some point because he talked about it in his confession.

Who knows--Joran is a meglomaniac and may have even had delusions of extorting Stephany's family for years to come the way he has Natalee's.

.

I think Joran also said he was in a foreign country and didn't know where he could buy a suitcase. 

Hello....yellow pages!

Yep.  Shows how disorganized he was. 

hi monkeys, there are not many places to buy suitcases in peru. saga fallabela should have suicases but there are expensive and sundays everything opens late or some placed don't k
open at all, sunday is a family day

[can]

Hi Cecilita. 
Kind of nice that Sunday is geared to families.

Cecilita, do you know if plea bargains are part of your judicial system?  tia

[Gypsy DD]

Dutch tv-network SBS has permission to go into Castro Castro on Monday and the reporter will try to talk to Joran.
Maybe he -just like his mommy- only wants to talk to the Dutch press and not the American.
I'll keep you guys posted.

Thank you Jo-An..and thank you for translating and posting the article from the Telegraph.

[Kermit]

johann555 posted:

Re: Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) DUTCH & English
« Reply #452 on: April 24, 2008, 06:23:40 AM »
I think Joran is still in Den Dolder
I was there this morning and 2 people told me that Joran is there on the Roosenberg Unit .The man on the pic below told me and someone who works there.
The Roosenberg unit is not an open Unit you can see that on the 3th pic .
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg376684#msg376684




http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg376658#msg376658


MANY TIMES JORAN VAN DER SLOOT WAS AT SM READING UP AS WELL AS FREEBIRDS BLOG -

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT
Renfro hinted the other day that Joran IS in school...........................he got to our blog by a "Murderer" pic of ours in our photobucket 


Domain Name asianet.co.th ? (Thailand)
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ISP True Internet Co.
Location Continent : Asia
Country : Thailand (Facts)
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City : Rangsit
Time of Visit Aug 19 2008 2:56:31 am
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I have a whole document of Joran van der Sloot watching the websites and blogs.

ribbit

[Kermit]

I am checking in on my "tea" breaks while getting ready for a family reunion on hubby's side ... a family reunion that will be held at our home tomorrow.  Out of town family who are staying at my sister-in-law's home in Vancouver will be the guests of honor.  Hubby is busy making lots of sushi rolls (norimaki) and ... I am cleaning.  Other than my famous carrot cake (Safeway) and Tim Horton's coffee ... hubby's sisters have taken care of all the food.  I am praying for good weather.  There will be about 50 in attendance.

Well ... eldest son, DIL and three year old grandson from Vancouver Island will be arriving shortly ... so I better get busy and make up their beds.  Papa has already set up Thomas Train.

Later, Janet
10:30 AM PT

Enjoy your family time.

[Kermit]

One-hung-low and da misses



Johan555 posted
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #767 8/5
« Reply #322 on: August 15, 2008, 12:12:47 AM »
I don't believe that at all,Joran is in Den Dolder
They want that we > think he is in Thailand 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3167.msg411456#msg411456


BLOG WHERE CAPS AND THAT ANIMO GUY ETC WERE BLOGGING:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.boublog.nl/2008/11/25/de-leugens-van-joran-en-de-pr-tegen-gielen/comment-page-5/&ei=_ZGXSoXzHI2QNvPruJ8F&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DJohan555%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D90

[Magnolia]

Kermit,
Wasn't Steph Watts photographed in Thailand with Joran?

[klaasend]

Magnolia - yes Steph was there for Greta's interview.  He was contracted to Fox at that time.

Kermit - that's the first time I saw that blog that Caps was posting on.  Thanks.

[klaasend]

Kermit,
Wasn't Steph Watts photographed in Thailand with Joran?

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/exclusive-joran-van-der-sloots-confession-to-me/

[SunnyinTX]

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2010/6/16/205823/913
..........

thanks Kat...that was very informative.....nice for a change to read something that makes sense

[Magnolia]

Kermit,
Wasn't Steph Watts photographed in Thailand with Joran?

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/exclusive-joran-van-der-sloots-confession-to-me/

Thank you, Klaas. 

[Anna]

Caps totally bashing Beth and Natalee.  His supporters must have been so pround.

There is nbo such thing as an Aruban who wants to help us find what happened to Natalee.  Never has been and never will be.

[klaasend]

I keep checking the Peruvian websites expecting to see headlines that say:

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT SE SUICIDA

[no rose colored glasses]

I keep checking the Peruvian websites expecting to see headlines that say:

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT SE SUICIDA

I keep expecting to see that, or that someone murdered him.

[klaasend]

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/nieuws/article/detail/491752/2010/06/19/Joran-vluchtte-voor-opname-in-kliniek.dhtml

[Magnolia]

I keep checking the Peruvian websites expecting to see headlines that say:

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT SE SUICIDA

Con su mano en su bolsillo. (with his hand in his pocket)

[San]

I keep checking the Peruvian websites expecting to see headlines that say:

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT SE SUICIDA

Con su mano en su bolsillo. (with his hand in his pocket)

lol