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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #840 6/17/10 - 6/22/10  (Read 368737 times)
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« Reply #1740 on: June 21, 2010, 10:55:43 PM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68EM7B8qMqM
 Joran`s mom speaks (preview) ENG-SUB
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« Reply #1741 on: June 21, 2010, 10:58:57 PM »

As I recall, Anita was trying to explain it away as simple sibling rivalry; a fight among brothers;
nothing unusual.

It may have been when Greta and Beth were at the VanderSloots that Anita told that.

That is why I have always thought that he kicked and stomped Stephany.
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« Reply #1742 on: June 21, 2010, 11:04:23 PM »

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
Thursday, June 23, 2005


ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: Joran is a very outgoing person. He's a sweetheart. To me, he's very warm. We spend Easter vacation in Florida together to visit his school, and we had a lot of fun together, went to Busch Gardens (search), and he was getting me cups of coffee and making jokes. He's very outgoing, loving, caring, fights with his brothers all the time, but I think that's pretty normal. We cannot get him out of bed in the morning to go to school, but once he's there, he's doing great. He got picked up on the morning of his graduation. He graduated with honor, all As and Bs. He did some AP, advanced courses, physics, calculus, AP English.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160471,00.html
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« Reply #1743 on: June 21, 2010, 11:06:15 PM »

As I recall, Anita was trying to explain it away as simple sibling rivalry; a fight among brothers;
nothing unusual.

It may have been when Greta and Beth were at the VanderSloots that Anita told that.

That is why I have always thought that he kicked and stomped Stephany.

I agree Magnolia, and I don't believe Natalee died with a single accidental injury either.  JMO
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1744 on: June 21, 2010, 11:07:02 PM »

Magnolia, that interview is on the same page as the above link and yrs I saw it in print as well.
Too many people were raising that issue at the time and I remeber also seeing that he was seeing a psychm counselor, whatever it was for anger management- to downplay the more severe nature of his problem, I'm sure.
I wonder if they ever got any help for Sebastiaan. How can you live with that knowing someone capapble of taking your life is just around the corner at any time.With little or no provocation.
anira prided herself and reminded us many times of her excellence in recognizing problems in children, being a " professor" and all.
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« Reply #1745 on: June 21, 2010, 11:09:02 PM »

Texasmom, I think he gets ebraged when his victims leave him, too....by dying on him.
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« Reply #1746 on: June 21, 2010, 11:10:06 PM »

Lots of typoes there so pick thru and make sense where you will,..lol.
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« Reply #1747 on: June 21, 2010, 11:24:25 PM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68EM7B8qMqM
 Joran`s mom speaks (preview) ENG-SUB
title says it all, enjoy

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« Reply #1748 on: June 21, 2010, 11:29:00 PM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68EM7B8qMqM
 Joran`s mom speaks (preview) ENG-SUB
title says it all, enjoy

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She wants pity. What they need to do is expose all of her social networking messages.

She needs a shovel to the face.
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« Reply #1749 on: June 21, 2010, 11:32:24 PM »

As I recall, Anita was trying to explain it away as simple sibling rivalry; a fight among brothers;
nothing unusual.

It may have been when Greta and Beth were at the VanderSloots that Anita told that.

That is why I have always thought that he kicked and stomped Stephany.

I agree Magnolia, and I don't believe Natalee died with a single accidental injury either.  JMO

I think Natalee died with some kind of violent blow to the head administered by Joran.
I don't know if he hit her with a bat or bashed her head on a rock or stomped her. They
were all trying to explain a head injury from the beginning. 

Then there is the seizure issue that kept popping up.  The seizure was caused by a head injury. 
All just my opinion.
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« Reply #1750 on: June 21, 2010, 11:34:12 PM »


I am so angry that the Peruvian system allows Joran to profit while detained ... profit from the horrific murder of one of their own.  It is so wrong.

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I'm not worried about that. Where can he spend it? They'll get it all back in the prison system, for delivering food and water.

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« Reply #1751 on: June 21, 2010, 11:41:57 PM »

Magnolia even in his lies there are a shred of truth...she fell and hit her head was a way to cover that she had a head injury, even in lying he can't help but allow something real to escape.
she was in and out of consciousness ( in the car) he left her ( on the beach ) unconscious.
How many times does he mention consciousness, head injury...he is telling the truth in these statements but not at the times and places where they occurred
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« Reply #1752 on: June 21, 2010, 11:46:32 PM »

Magnolia even in his lies there are a shred of truth...she fell and hit her head was a way to cover that she had a head injury, even in lying he can't help but allow something real to escape.
she was in and out of consciousness ( in the car) he left her ( on the beach ) unconscious.
How many times does he mention consciousness, head injury...he is telling the truth in these statements but not at the times and places where they occurred
IMHO

Seems like Aruba could have figured that out.  They had a lot more information than a bunch of
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« Reply #1753 on: June 21, 2010, 11:48:47 PM »

Van der Stratten was the godfather, Croes was the translator at the Sloots that night the Holloways arrived. They knew.
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« Reply #1754 on: June 21, 2010, 11:57:18 PM »

Van der Stratten was the godfather, Croes was the translator at the Sloots that night the Holloways arrived. They knew.
You have to wonder why the whole island was afraid to spill the beans about Joran. EVERYONE knew about his anger issues and violence against classmates and siblings. Why was everyone so afraid to speak out??????? They MUST have been VERY afraid of who they would anger.
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« Reply #1755 on: June 22, 2010, 12:00:12 AM »








Anita Van der sloot furiously at work trying to get her son mental help.

Date: April 25,2010


She was working on it at the International School of Aruba`s PTO Bingo Game.

Place: Westin Resort Aruba



http://www.isaruba.com/Students%20life/Pictures/quarter4.html#
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« Reply #1756 on: June 22, 2010, 12:00:49 AM »

This has to do with the same incident we all saw RenHo at a few days ago...

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=3750&offId=0

9 hora happen | fecha: 21/06/2010 | horario: 14:34

recherche by distrito north owing to detene one by the 2 sospechosonan by the action y tiramento at monserat, besides owing to confisca 2 vehiculo y several cosnan more

monday morning recherche by distrito north is trahando constantemente on the caso by action y tiramento by week happen at monserat, finalmente today recherche owing to succeed laydown hand on the primer sospechoso just at instant cu the was yegando her cas in semeleerstraat. at once recherchenan owing to arrive close dje y owing to informe cu the is deteni. after by cu the sospechoso self owing to say \"dal bay\" autoridad owing to come into the cas y owing to confisca all locual they have to for her investigacion. autoridad owing to confisca the.o. 2 vehiculo, one engine by boat several mac ream, several arm blanco cu was hinca in nachtkastje, peluca, laptop, y several another articulo more. the investigacion is follow y still miss before detene the another sospechoso, at present if the sospechoso is know before her same good the is bay entrega her self at keep by shaba.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1757 on: June 22, 2010, 12:02:18 AM »

Paul must have had a lot of ammo, buit someone higher up sould spill the beans on Paul. Remember he recently failed his judges test. His "friend" who put out the bio about Paul being the merry marcher at carnival, taking the plummy job of procuring contracts on Aruba, Anita - teacher of Artictic formattion, blablabla,..said HE WILL NEVER BE A JUDGE////how did he know that? Psychic? No, they would never allow Paul that much power. But there is someone over him, Keeper of the Secrets...whoever that may be. Some people said it was Jossy. Maybe it is ?
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« Reply #1758 on: June 22, 2010, 12:03:40 AM »

Robots will be back in 5 minutes,  he just got down hurling his GUTS out for 20 minutes straight,  too many pictures of ANITA for him to handle

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« Reply #1759 on: June 22, 2010, 12:08:42 AM »

As I recall, Anita was trying to explain it away as simple sibling rivalry; a fight among brothers;
nothing unusual.

It may have been when Greta and Beth were at the VanderSloots that Anita told that.

That is why I have always thought that he kicked and stomped Stephany.


someone else has probably already responded to this, but yes, when Greta and Beth were there...
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