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« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2010, 06:44:24 PM »

DoubleD,

I am aware you are focusing on where Kyron is, I don't want to take away from Kyron, but down the road...
would you look up "military records", please, for SM adopted father? Curious if he was in the Military in CA.
The military registrations are a wealth of information. Thank-You for your time.

there is no way to know who the birth father is.  I am told that when babies are adopted they will VOID the original birth record and make a new birth record for the adoptive parents.  I don't know if they do that all of the time, but if the adoption is sealed I think they do.  Nevada county is pretty small so I went through every female birth record for that date in nevada county.  I found only ONE other birth record for that date for a female baby.  All that is on the record is a surname for the baby and the mother's maiden name, which is the same as the baby's surname, so the baby did not have the father's last name and there is no other info.  I have the birth mother's maiden name and that is all.  AND I'M NOT 100% POSTIVE THIS IS THE SAME PERSON AS TERRI.  It could be that another baby girl was born that same day.  However, you would think the mother would have named her.  This record shows no name for the baby.

I could probably look further and see if this baby possibly grew up and still has the last name of her mother.  if there is no such person then she is most likely terri moulton.


I appreciate you noting Nevada County, Cal.  it is a small town, I always think of California as huge.

I found "three" (Nevada, California) Kisiel brides on ancestry.com

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsln=kisiel&_82000000-gpid=2155&_82000000_PInfo=7-%7c1652393%7c2%7c3249%7c7%7c2155%7c&_82000000__ftp=Nevada+County%2c+California%2c+USA&uidh=0

It is possible one may be mum. Thank-you for making the "who's who list" much more interesting.

Some monkey's would like to download Kyron's photo, may I ask please if we may post a photo, and if we may, what are the step's?  You are very good at walking through steps. Thank-you.






https://docs.co.nevada.ca.us/dscgi/ds.py/View/Collection-3054

Historical Documents if anyone wishes for look-ups

http://new.mynevadacounty.com/library/index.cfm?ccs=603&cs=432&highlight=genealogy (Nevada, California)
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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2010, 10:54:39 AM »

Possible former classmates of SM


Roseburg High School

Class of 1988


http://www.graduates.com/ys.aspx?sy=1988&si=181373



   Hansen, Lena (Fixdal)
            
 
   Holmgren, Keri
            
 
   Martin, Gabriel
            
 
   Waterman, Len
        
 
http://www.graduates.com/ys.aspx?sy=1988&si=181373
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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2010, 11:04:46 AM »

http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51083

The mini maps on bottom of the link I find clear & crisp for reference.

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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2010, 04:11:25 PM »

http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51083

The mini maps on bottom of the link I find clear & crisp for reference.



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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2010, 03:58:37 AM »

I have a WORK THREAD over on my board if anyone wishes to use the info feel free, I'll be adding to it as I find more info, but here is some of the basics. 

Michael Cook, a friend from high school who helped organize a vigil
Cook drove up in a blue pickup truck
I have info on his mother and father, their businesses, addresses, facebook, etc. 
listed in court docs as "sexting" with Terri horman after kaine moved out.


[size=150]Michael Raymond Cook [/size]
(Age 37)
[size=150]Birth Date: 03/02/1973[/size]
Associated Names:
M Cook
Mike R Cook

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

[size=150]Merchandising Technologies Inc
Portland Actors Ensemble
[/size]

ADDRESS 1:
5375 Edgebrook Pl,
Portland, OR 97229

ADDRESS 2:
7740 4th Ave,
Portland, OR 97219

ADDRESS 3:
17297 Merlo Rd #2,
Beaverton, OR 97006

ADDRESS 4:
8521 Endicott Ave,
Portland, OR 97217

ADDRESS 5:
8671 PO Box,
Portland, OR 97207

ADDRESS 6:
513 Bright St #B,
Seattle, WA 98107

ADDRESS 7:
7015 39th Ave,
Portland, OR 97202

ADDRESS 8:
2518 Nehalem St,
Portland, OR 97202

ADDRESS 9:
3206 160th St,
Lake Forest Park, WA 98155

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  Chrystal E Cook (Age 40)
Fred W Cook (Age 67) fatherof michael cook
Patricia E Cook (Age 66) mother of michael cook
Shannon Green Mcallister (Age 35) wife/x-wife?( not sure yet if divorced) of michael cook

Possible Roommates / Associates:

Desiree M Macfarlane (Age 33)
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« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2010, 04:15:17 AM »

Did anyone find out what Desiree's maiden name is?
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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2010, 10:18:34 AM »

I googled Portland Actors Ensemble and thought the 2010 season info was interesting..For its 41st season of Shakespeare-in-the-Parks, PAE will waft you across the wine-dark sea to the   Eastern Mediterranean, for tales of shipwreck, sundering of family, and their later joyous reunion after decades of separation. Displaying the Bard's mastery of many different styles of theatre, both plays use the ancient Greek story Apollonius of Tyre as a source, with very different results.http://www.portlandactors.com/
Also it appears Kyron's mom Desiree was born in 1972 so the one below wouldnt be a match.
I have a WORK THREAD over on my board if anyone wishes to use the info feel free, I'll be adding to it as I find more info, but here is some of the basics. 

Michael Cook, a friend from high school who helped organize a vigil
Cook drove up in a blue pickup truck
I have info on his mother and father, their businesses, addresses, facebook, etc. 
listed in court docs as "sexting" with Terri horman after kaine moved out.


[size=150]Michael Raymond Cook [/size]
(Age 37)
[size=150]Birth Date: 03/02/1973[/size]
Associated Names:
M Cook
Mike R Cook

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

[size=150]Merchandising Technologies Inc
Portland Actors Ensemble
[/size]

ADDRESS 1:
5375 Edgebrook Pl,
Portland, OR 97229

ADDRESS 2:
7740 4th Ave,
Portland, OR 97219

ADDRESS 3:
17297 Merlo Rd #2,
Beaverton, OR 97006

ADDRESS 4:
8521 Endicott Ave,
Portland, OR 97217

ADDRESS 5:
8671 PO Box,
Portland, OR 97207

ADDRESS 6:
513 Bright St #B,
Seattle, WA 98107

ADDRESS 7:
7015 39th Ave,
Portland, OR 97202

ADDRESS 8:
2518 Nehalem St,
Portland, OR 97202

ADDRESS 9:
3206 160th St,
Lake Forest Park, WA 98155

phone numbers removed per scaredmonkey rules; I have them

  Chrystal E Cook (Age 40)
Fred W Cook (Age 67) fatherof michael cook
Patricia E Cook (Age 66) mother of michael cook
Shannon Green Mcallister (Age 35) wife/x-wife?( not sure yet if divorced) of michael cook

Possible Roommates / Associates:

Desiree M Macfarlane (Age 33)
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« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2010, 07:04:06 AM »

Did anyone find out what Desiree's maiden name is?


Desiree McCullough Horman, Kyron’s mother

http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2010/06/pondering-disappearance-of-kyron-horman.html

 age 38 (?)

Middle name may be Desiree Ann Mc Cullough MAY be her birth name.
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« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2010, 02:39:11 PM »








http://www.kptv.com/kyron-horman/index.html

Court documents, Statements & News Releases

A neat arrangement of events.
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« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2010, 06:32:48 PM »

DoubleD,

I am aware you are focusing on where Kyron is, I don't want to take away from Kyron, but down the road...
would you look up "military records", please, for SM adopted father? Curious if he was in the Military in CA.
The military registrations are a wealth of information. Thank-You for your time.

there is no way to know who the birth father is.  I am told that when babies are adopted they will VOID the original birth record and make a new birth record for the adoptive parents.  I don't know if they do that all of the time, but if the adoption is sealed I think they do.  Nevada county is pretty small so I went through every female birth record for that date in nevada county.  I found only ONE other birth record for that date for a female baby.  All that is on the record is a surname for the baby and the mother's maiden name, which is the same as the baby's surname, so the baby did not have the father's last name and there is no other info.  I have the birth mother's maiden name and that is all.  AND I'M NOT 100% POSTIVE THIS IS THE SAME PERSON AS TERRI.  It could be that another baby girl was born that same day.  However, you would think the mother would have named her.  This record shows no name for the baby.

I could probably look further and see if this baby possibly grew up and still has the last name of her mother.  if there is no such person then she is most likely terri moulton.


I appreciate you noting Nevada County, Cal.  it is a small town, I always think of California as huge.

I found "three" (Nevada, California) Kisiel brides on ancestry.com

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsln=kisiel&_82000000-gpid=2155&_82000000_PInfo=7-%7c1652393%7c2%7c3249%7c7%7c2155%7c&_82000000__ftp=Nevada+County%2c+California%2c+USA&uidh=0

It is possible one may be mum. Thank-you for making the "who's who list" much more interesting.

Some monkey's would like to download Kyron's photo, may I ask please if we may post a photo, and if we may, what are the step's?  You are very good at walking through steps. Thank-you.






https://docs.co.nevada.ca.us/dscgi/ds.py/View/Collection-3054

Historical Documents if anyone wishes for look-ups

http://new.mynevadacounty.com/library/index.cfm?ccs=603&cs=432&highlight=genealogy (Nevada, California)

The Surname "Kisiel" is of Polish descent according to this link. SM may be half Polish.
http://www.feefhs.org/members/pgs-california/psn/ksn.html
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« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2010, 02:57:03 PM »

DoubleD,

I am aware you are focusing on where Kyron is, I don't want to take away from Kyron, but down the road...
would you look up "military records", please, for SM adopted father? Curious if he was in the Military in CA.
The military registrations are a wealth of information. Thank-You for your time.

there is no way to know who the birth father is.  I am told that when babies are adopted they will VOID the original birth record and make a new birth record for the adoptive parents.  I don't know if they do that all of the time, but if the adoption is sealed I think they do.  Nevada county is pretty small so I went through every female birth record for that date in nevada county.  I found only ONE other birth record for that date for a female baby.  All that is on the record is a surname for the baby and the mother's maiden name, which is the same as the baby's surname, so the baby did not have the father's last name and there is no other info.  I have the birth mother's maiden name and that is all.  AND I'M NOT 100% POSTIVE THIS IS THE SAME PERSON AS TERRI.  It could be that another baby girl was born that same day.  However, you would think the mother would have named her.  This record shows no name for the baby.

I could probably look further and see if this baby possibly grew up and still has the last name of her mother.  if there is no such person then she is most likely terri moulton.


I appreciate you noting Nevada County, Cal.  it is a small town, I always think of California as huge.

I found "three" (Nevada, California) Kisiel brides on ancestry.com

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsln=kisiel&_82000000-gpid=2155&_82000000_PInfo=7-%7c1652393%7c2%7c3249%7c7%7c2155%7c&_82000000__ftp=Nevada+County%2c+California%2c+USA&uidh=0

It is possible one may be mum. Thank-you for making the "who's who list" much more interesting.

Some monkey's would like to download Kyron's photo, may I ask please if we may post a photo, and if we may, what are the step's?  You are very good at walking through steps. Thank-you.






https://docs.co.nevada.ca.us/dscgi/ds.py/View/Collection-3054

Historical Documents if anyone wishes for look-ups

http://new.mynevadacounty.com/library/index.cfm?ccs=603&cs=432&highlight=genealogy (Nevada, California)



http://www.ncgold.com/walking-tours/grass-valley.html

Walking Tour of Grass Valley (Navada, California)

I see a Mount St.Mary's Convent on this site, possible place for Ms. Kisiel to have stayed while awaiting a child.
Ms. Kisiel may have been Roman Catholic since the surname "Kisiel" is of possible Polish ancestry

SM was born in March BUT was adopted in November, so where was the baby during the wait? 

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« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2010, 04:12:57 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Saint_Mary's_Convent_and_Academy

Mount Saint Mary's Convent and Academy (also known as Mount Saint Mary's Academy and Convent and previously Mount St. Mary’s Convent and Orphan Asylum; originally Sacred Heart Convent and Holy Angels Orphanage), located at 410 South Church Street between Chapel and Dalton Streets, in Grass Valley, California, commemorates the Sisters of Mercy,[2] and is the only extant original orphanage in California.[3] The building currently functions as the Grass Valley Museum.[4][5]


ME: I am curious if TLM was adopted from the Convent?  I read yesterday on-line she was adopted November 1977,
we know she was born March 1977, so if this is so...she may have been on a waiting list at the Convent?

Speculation on my part, makes logic if she was adopted eighth months after her birth.   This would be one possible
reason she is so scambled in her life, that "separation thing". 
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« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2010, 06:59:23 PM »

have not had time to read here in awhile...

desiree nee name is davidson
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« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2010, 08:46:43 AM »

have not had time to read here in awhile...

desiree nee name is davidson


Thank-you, DD.  Monkey Patricia Mocha was searching for DY maiden name, interesting.
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« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2010, 06:09:08 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/policescanner/audio/index.ssf

This scanner is another option.
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« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2010, 08:37:15 PM »

http://portland.tvdeck.com/

A handy-dandy link for Portland, Oregon, Video's.
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« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2010, 02:02:40 AM »

have not had time to read here in awhile...

desiree nee name is davidson


Thank-you, DD.  Monkey Patricia Mocha was searching for DY maiden name, interesting.

Yes thank you! I guess I should check back in here more often.

Davidson eh?

Interesting:
1. Scottish, northern English, and Jewish (Ashkenazic): patronymic from the personal name David. As a Jewish name, the last element comes from German Sohn ‘son’.
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« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2010, 02:13:13 AM »

have not had time to read here in awhile...

desiree nee name is davidson


Thank-you, DD.  Monkey Patricia Mocha was searching for DY maiden name, interesting.

Yes thank you! I guess I should check back in here more often.

Davidson eh?

Interesting:
1. Scottish, northern English, and Jewish (Ashkenazic): patronymic from the personal name David. As a Jewish name, the last element comes from German Sohn ‘son’.


PS from what I have been told the name would be read as "Son of David" or "David's Son" something like that and what not.
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« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2010, 01:36:44 PM »

I hope this copies right, as some of the html on my board is a bit different than this one.

Quote from: skyecase
WORK THREAD - Terri Moulton Horman Step-Mom

Terri Horman/Nee Moulton was adopted.  She gets the name of Moulton from her adoptive parents Carol and Larry Moulton.  You will see her adoptee search form with her maiden name listed as ECKER, but that is actually her married name to her 2nd husband Richard Charles Ecker. 

She was adopted out of Grass Valley, Nevada County, California.  The only other person born there with the same birthdate as hers is a baby with last name only, no given name and the baby's surname is the same as the mother's maiden name so the mother was not married at the time.  I tend to think this might be the original birth certificate of terri before she was adopted by carol and larry moulton, and then was issued a new birth certificate under the name of Terri Lynn Moulton.

I will be listing all of the documents to show how I came to this conclusion.
 

On adoption form search request
Adoptee's Name Terri L. Ecker
Adoptee's Birthdate Mar 14, 1970
Birthplace Grassvalley, California
Adoptee's Gender Female
Adoption Date Nov 27, 1970
Hospital Grassvalley, CA


Maiden Name Terri L. Ecker
Birth Date Mar 14, 1970
Birth Place California


Spouse's Name Richard

________________________________
one of terri's addresses

18874 CHRISTOPHER BEAVERTON, OR

listed with this address is:


Possible Relatives:

MOULTON, CAROL LYNN (Age 69) terri's adoptive mother
TARVER, RONALD GENE (Age 64)
MOULTON, LARRY E (Age 72)
ECKER, RICHARD CHARLES (Age 45) terri's 2nd husband
TARVER, JR R (Age 41) terri's 1st husband
TARVER, RONALD G (Age 41)
MOULTON, LARRY terris adoptive father
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Name: Terri L Ecker
[size=150]Birth Date: 14 Mar 1970[/size]
Address: 1253 R St, Springfield, OR, 97477-2689 (1996)
[1012 Cinnamon Ave, Eugene, OR, 97404-1515 (1996)]



here is her birth certificate....

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Terri L Moulton
Name: Terri L Moulton [/color]
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1970 [/size]
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Logan
Birth County: Nevada

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this is the only other birth in nevada county with the same birthdate. that county is really not that big so I am went through every single birth certificate in that county for that date. This is the only one for that birthdate.


notice this one only has the last name listed. also note the baby has the mother's maiden name, so the mother was not married

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Kisiel
Name: Kisiel[/u]
[size=150]Birth Date: 14 Mar 1970 [/size]

Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Kisiel
Birth County: Nevada

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« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2010, 03:56:33 PM »

I "think" that the second listing is possibly Desiree.

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&qf=Desiree&qmi=&qn=Davidson&qs=OR&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

I've noticed that we do not have much data on DY's family members.
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