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« Reply #1680 on: July 11, 2010, 06:12:44 AM »

lol, the story just won't go away!

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/19582-ex-abogado-di-micheal-jackson-rumbo-pa-lima-pa-defense-joran-vd-sloot.html



Papiamentu/Google Dutch translation:

ex-abogado by micheal jackson will defende joran v/d sloot

saturday, 10 july 2010 16:53

joe tacopina is direction before lima, so the corant by more big at lima "el comercio" owing to publica saturday morning. the advocate peruvian by joran; pablo altez navarro owing to indica cu the ex-abogado by micheal jackson will arrive lima diahuebs at present before take over the defence by joran v/d sloot cual is acusa by owing to kill the young by 21 year stephany flores. according the tacopina the is by opinion cu one by three person will owing to kill stephany flores y is besides cuestiona the proceso penal contra joran v/d sloot. tacopina will is one by the two abogadonan extranhero cu is yegando lima diahuebs at present before take over the defence by joran. the advocate peruvian by joran owing to declara cu her cliente is quite more calm cu the first dianan close in gaol y not have miss by cuminda.

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Peruvian Stephany Flowers was not killed by Joran but by thugs from the casino...

She and Joran were card counters and cheats ... casinos DON'T like that S$it!





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« Reply #1681 on: July 11, 2010, 08:05:50 AM »

This attempt to raise Joran to Michael Jackson celebrity status is just sickening.  I do think that's what they are doing with the insistence that Tacopina is representing him and that he also represented MJ.

Neither of those things are true and it's really sick to see Joran as a celebrity because of his infamy.

But, oh, how they love that story and the bogus belief that Taco got Jackson off so maybe he will Joran as well.

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MJ was a freak and was in for it from Paul mcC  anyway Joran is a freak ... Perfit!
Child molester and a murderer.  Isn't that equivocal. 
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« Reply #1682 on: July 11, 2010, 08:11:06 AM »


Peruvian Stephany Flowers was not killed by Joran but by thugs from the casino...

She and Joran were card counters and cheats ... casinos DON'T like that S$it!

Gaming commissions are in place to assure casinos play by the rules. Casinos aren't sinister places that force you to gamble and then take your money with force. I've been in casinos all over the world and all of them are legal, professional, and forthright.
To suggest that casinos are responsible for murder is allowing Joran to be the victim. This is typical projection when someone is under-educated about business practice, law, and other information that is above their heads.
Casinos aren't the "bad guy". Joran is a murderer, he was caught red handed (no pun) and now he must face the judicial system. Joran is the bad guy.

I also find it sickening that Joran is getting marriage proposals. Obviously these are coming from anti-government protesters and women who are desperate for attention.

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« Reply #1683 on: July 11, 2010, 08:15:58 AM »

This attempt to raise Joran to Michael Jackson celebrity status is just sickening.  I do think that's what they are doing with the insistence that Tacopina is representing him and that he also represented MJ.

Neither of those things are true and it's really sick to see Joran as a celebrity because of his infamy.

But, oh, how they love that story and the bogus belief that Taco got Jackson off so maybe he will Joran as well.

More cheering for germs.



MJ was a freak and was in for it from Paul mcC  anyway Joran is a freak ... Perfit!
Child molester and a murderer.  Isn't that equivocal. 
Typical reaction to the media frenzy. I suppose that having a common lawyer would lead some to compare the clients. But the lawyer only received notoriety from defending Michael Jackson. So the lawyer seeks cases that will bring him notoriety. Get it?
This isn't an opportunity to compare clients. This is an opportunity to see that lawyers are money grubbing whores with large egos who like press attention.
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« Reply #1684 on: July 11, 2010, 08:18:31 AM »


Peruvian Stephany Flowers was not killed by Joran but by thugs from the casino...

She and Joran were card counters and cheats ... casinos DON'T like that S$it!

Gaming commissions are in place to assure casinos play by the rules. Casinos aren't sinister places that force you to gamble and then take your money with force. I've been in casinos all over the world and all of them are legal, professional, and forthright.
To suggest that casinos are responsible for murder is allowing Joran to be the victim. This is typical projection when someone is under-educated about business practice, law, and other information that is above their heads.
Casinos aren't the "bad guy". Joran is a murderer, he was caught red handed (no pun) and now he must face the judicial system. Joran is the bad guy.

I also find it sickening that Joran is getting marriage proposals. Obviously these are coming from anti-government protesters and women who are desperate for attention.



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« Reply #1685 on: July 11, 2010, 08:33:07 AM »

This attempt to raise Joran to Michael Jackson celebrity status is just sickening.  I do think that's what they are doing with the insistence that Tacopina is representing him and that he also represented MJ.

Neither of those things are true and it's really sick to see Joran as a celebrity because of his infamy.

But, oh, how they love that story and the bogus belief that Taco got Jackson off so maybe he will Joran as well.

More cheering for germs.



MJ was a freak and was in for it from Paul mcC  anyway Joran is a freak ... Perfit!
Child molester and a murderer.  Isn't that equivocal.  
Typical reaction to the media frenzy. I suppose that having a common lawyer would lead some to compare the clients. But the lawyer only received notoriety from defending Michael Jackson. So the lawyer seeks cases that will bring him notoriety. Get it?
This isn't an opportunity to compare clients. This is an opportunity to see that lawyers are money grubbing whores with large egos who like press attention.
F***ing Flea bag Lawyers are ruining the USA!

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« Reply #1686 on: July 11, 2010, 08:43:10 AM »

This attempt to raise Joran to Michael Jackson celebrity status is just sickening.  I do think that's what they are doing with the insistence that Tacopina is representing him and that he also represented MJ.

Neither of those things are true and it's really sick to see Joran as a celebrity because of his infamy.

But, oh, how they love that story and the bogus belief that Taco got Jackson off so maybe he will Joran as well.

More cheering for germs.



MJ was a freak and was in for it from Paul mcC  anyway Joran is a freak ... Perfit!
Child molester and a murderer.  Isn't that equivocal. 
Typical reaction to the media frenzy. I suppose that having a common lawyer would lead some to compare the clients. But the lawyer only received notoriety from defending Michael Jackson. So the lawyer seeks cases that will bring him notoriety. Get it?
This isn't an opportunity to compare clients. This is an opportunity to see that lawyers are money grubbing whores with large egos who like press attention.









JJ U R clueless...
 I have first  hand knoelege of thir world countrys  and their prison system... correption yes Justice no!py
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« Reply #1687 on: July 11, 2010, 09:23:35 AM »

lol, the story just won't go away!

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/19582-ex-abogado-di-micheal-jackson-rumbo-pa-lima-pa-defense-joran-vd-sloot.html



Papiamentu/Google Dutch translation:

ex-abogado by micheal jackson will defende joran v/d sloot

saturday, 10 july 2010 16:53

joe tacopina is direction before lima, so the corant by more big at lima "el comercio" owing to publica saturday morning. the advocate peruvian by joran; pablo altez navarro owing to indica cu the ex-abogado by micheal jackson will arrive lima diahuebs at present before take over the defence by joran v/d sloot cual is acusa by owing to kill the young by 21 year stephany flores. according the tacopina the is by opinion cu one by three person will owing to kill stephany flores y is besides cuestiona the proceso penal contra joran v/d sloot. tacopina will is one by the two abogadonan extranhero cu is yegando lima diahuebs at present before take over the defence by joran. the advocate peruvian by joran owing to declara cu her cliente is quite more calm cu the first dianan close in gaol y not have miss by cuminda.

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Scirbi Alex_1 AR, July 10, 2010
Who will pay for it all? E abogadonan administration re aki ta Pro bono? Clabo ta clabo Saca.





Peruvian Stephany Flowers was not killed by Joran but by thugs from the casino...

She and Joran were card counters and cheats ... casinos DON'T like that S$it!







You have to be kidding me.  And Joran confessed why? 
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« Reply #1688 on: July 11, 2010, 09:27:04 AM »

Martini  - after 5 years and alot of BS, I'm not going to allow you or anyone else to turn this into a Joran was set up thread.  Joran is a murdering monster that has been protected for 5 years.  Hopefully he'll get MORE than he deserves in Peru prison.

Please stop attacking the posters.
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« Reply #1689 on: July 11, 2010, 09:34:42 AM »

lol, the story just won't go away!

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/19582-ex-abogado-di-micheal-jackson-rumbo-pa-lima-pa-defense-joran-vd-sloot.html



Papiamentu/Google Dutch translation:

ex-abogado by micheal jackson will defende joran v/d sloot

saturday, 10 july 2010 16:53

joe tacopina is direction before lima, so the corant by more big at lima "el comercio" owing to publica saturday morning. the advocate peruvian by joran; pablo altez navarro owing to indica cu the ex-abogado by micheal jackson will arrive lima diahuebs at present before take over the defence by joran v/d sloot cual is acusa by owing to kill the young by 21 year stephany flores. according the tacopina the is by opinion cu one by three person will owing to kill stephany flores y is besides cuestiona the proceso penal contra joran v/d sloot. tacopina will is one by the two abogadonan extranhero cu is yegando lima diahuebs at present before take over the defence by joran. the advocate peruvian by joran owing to declara cu her cliente is quite more calm cu the first dianan close in gaol y not have miss by cuminda.

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Who will pay for it all? E abogadonan administration re aki ta Pro bono? Clabo ta clabo Saca.





Peruvian Stephany Flowers was not killed by Joran but by thugs from the casino...

She and Joran were card counters and cheats ... casinos DON'T like that S$it!






Sorry to "pop in", but are you being sarcastic ? I hope so, because not only did Joran kill Natalee but he also brutally beat, then ,murdered Stephany......not some thug from the Casino. If you are being serious why didn't they kill Frankenstein Joran?
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« Reply #1690 on: July 11, 2010, 09:37:43 AM »

Martini  - after 5 years and alot of BS, I'm not going to allow you or anyone else to turn this into a Joran was set up thread.  Joran is a murdering monster that has been protected for 5 years.  Hopefully he'll get MORE than he deserves in Peru prison.

Please stop attacking the posters.


Hi, Klaas, not sure if anyone here watched the special last night on the prison Joran is reportedly going to on transfer, but it is really a "Midnight Express" type prison.  Prostitutes who are paid to go there are sometimes gang-raped and "snuffed out."
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« Reply #1691 on: July 11, 2010, 09:39:17 AM »

Martini  - after 5 years and alot of BS, I'm not going to allow you or anyone else to turn this into a Joran was set up thread.  Joran is a murdering monster that has been protected for 5 years.  Hopefully he'll get MORE than he deserves in Peru prison.

Please stop attacking the posters.


Hi, Klaas, not sure if anyone here watched the special last night on the prison Joran is reportedly going to on transfer, but it is really a "Midnight Express" type prison.  Prostitutes who are paid to go there are sometimes gang-raped and "snuffed out."

I've seen something on it, not sure if it was THAT special.  I wish nothing good for Joran.
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« Reply #1692 on: July 11, 2010, 09:42:11 AM »

How's old Marty doing in Thailand nowadays?  If you had only known about this guy a few years ago, you could have blamed him for Natalee's disappearance.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/11/police-official-says-teen-fugitive-known-barefoot-bandit-caught-bahamas/
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« Reply #1693 on: July 11, 2010, 09:44:14 AM »

Martini  - after 5 years and alot of BS, I'm not going to allow you or anyone else to turn this into a Joran was set up thread.  Joran is a murdering monster that has been protected for 5 years.  Hopefully he'll get MORE than he deserves in Peru prison.

Please stop attacking the posters.


Hi, Klaas, not sure if anyone here watched the special last night on the prison Joran is reportedly going to on transfer, but it is really a "Midnight Express" type prison.  Prostitutes who are paid to go there are sometimes gang-raped and "snuffed out."

I've seen something on it, not sure if it was THAT special.  I wish nothing good for Joran.

I would say if this is where Joran is going, that he might opt for the more humane electric chair.
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« Reply #1694 on: July 11, 2010, 09:45:50 AM »

Remember - it's just a game

http://www.roundgames.com/game/Torture+Joran
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« Reply #1695 on: July 11, 2010, 10:03:59 AM »

Casinos reserve the right to ban players they suspect of card counting.

It requires above-average intelligence and Joran is too dumb to be able to do it in the first place.  His psychological testing has determined he is only of average intelligence.  But IMO he is not even that!

Joran is so stupid he thinks he committed the "perfect crime" in murdering Natalee Holloway and fails to understand that it took a massive cover-up on the part of his father and certain elements of LE to fail to investigate and gather forensics, etc.

And thinking this, he did it again, too stupid to know he can't lie his way out of this.

But the very thought of Joran being smart enough to count cards makes me laugh.  He LOST most of the time. 

Casinos simply ban players they suspect of cheating.  They don't kill them.

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« Reply #1696 on: July 11, 2010, 10:14:57 AM »

This attempt to raise Joran to Michael Jackson celebrity status is just sickening.  I do think that's what they are doing with the insistence that Tacopina is representing him and that he also represented MJ.

Neither of those things are true and it's really sick to see Joran as a celebrity because of his infamy.

But, oh, how they love that story and the bogus belief that Taco got Jackson off so maybe he will Joran as well.

More cheering for germs.



MJ was a freak and was in for it from Paul mcC  anyway Joran is a freak ... Perfit!
Child molester and a murderer.  Isn't that equivocal. 
Typical reaction to the media frenzy. I suppose that having a common lawyer would lead some to compare the clients. But the lawyer only received notoriety from defending Michael Jackson. So the lawyer seeks cases that will bring him notoriety. Get it?
This isn't an opportunity to compare clients. This is an opportunity to see that lawyers are money grubbing whores with large egos who like press attention.


JJ,
Yes, I will compare Tacopina's clients because they are so often notorious and known mafia figures like John Gotti, Jr. where the consensus is that they are guilty.  Otherwise, there is nothing interesting at all about this man as he is a garden-variety criminal defense attorney.

It's his clients that set him apart as sleaze and his defense of those who are indefensible.

And he did NOT defend Michael Jackson.  He's not that big league but only wishes he were.

Get it?

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« Reply #1697 on: July 11, 2010, 10:15:06 AM »

lol, the story just won't go away!

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/19582-ex-abogado-di-micheal-jackson-rumbo-pa-lima-pa-defense-joran-vd-sloot.html



Papiamentu/Google Dutch translation:

ex-abogado by micheal jackson will defende joran v/d sloot

saturday, 10 july 2010 16:53

joe tacopina is direction before lima, so the corant by more big at lima "el comercio" owing to publica saturday morning. the advocate peruvian by joran; pablo altez navarro owing to indica cu the ex-abogado by micheal jackson will arrive lima diahuebs at present before take over the defence by joran v/d sloot cual is acusa by owing to kill the young by 21 year stephany flores. according the tacopina the is by opinion cu one by three person will owing to kill stephany flores y is besides cuestiona the proceso penal contra joran v/d sloot. tacopina will is one by the two abogadonan extranhero cu is yegando lima diahuebs at present before take over the defence by joran. the advocate peruvian by joran owing to declara cu her cliente is quite more calm cu the first dianan close in gaol y not have miss by cuminda.

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Who will pay for it all? E abogadonan administration re aki ta Pro bono? Clabo ta clabo Saca.





Peruvian Stephany Flowers was not killed by Joran but by thugs from the casino...

She and Joran were card counters and cheats ... casinos DON'T like that S$it!







You have to be kidding me.  And Joran confessed why? 
Pseudonym for jenna2?
Joran is so clever, he staged the whole murder scenario to look like he did it.
He even put his blood and other DNA all over the murder scene. Even though he cannot name the actual murderers, he thinks he can get away with it, even thinking he will walk out of that hell hole of a jail.
Looks to me like someone has been partaking in the Aruban Kool-Aid.
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« Reply #1698 on: July 11, 2010, 10:22:06 AM »


Peruvian Stephany Flowers was not killed by Joran but by thugs from the casino...

She and Joran were card counters and cheats ... casinos DON'T like that S$it!

Gaming commissions are in place to assure casinos play by the rules. Casinos aren't sinister places that force you to gamble and then take your money with force. I've been in casinos all over the world and all of them are legal, professional, and forthright.
To suggest that casinos are responsible for murder is allowing Joran to be the victim. This is typical projection when someone is under-educated about business practice, law, and other information that is above their heads.
Casinos aren't the "bad guy". Joran is a murderer, he was caught red handed (no pun) and now he must face the judicial system. Joran is the bad guy.

I also find it sickening that Joran is getting marriage proposals. Obviously these are coming from anti-government protesters and women who are desperate for attention.


Probably got a marriage proposal from martini. Same mentality I see.
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« Reply #1699 on: July 11, 2010, 10:22:25 AM »

Tylergal, I watched parts of the special on Lurigoncho last night.  I had company and they kept talking and weren't interested for some reason.  I guess we expect all to be.  If it comes on again, I will try to watch in peace and quiet.

I did see the NatGeo one in it's entirety, however.


And, yes, I do see a form of "justice" of sorts in Joran being in such a hellhole.  Personally I am an advocate of the death penalty for those who commit multiple  murders and that's what Joran would get in our state should we be able to try him.

So anything short of that seems a bit light to me but the fact that this is a form of living hell is of some compensation.  Joran very likely will encounter "street justice" in there and at long last pay for what he has done.
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