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« Reply #400 on: June 29, 2010, 06:43:30 PM »

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« Reply #401 on: June 29, 2010, 06:45:14 PM »

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Kinda sad when your nose is your larger appendage.
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« Reply #402 on: June 29, 2010, 06:45:54 PM »

4-6 months investigative phase of Joran's trial.  He has only preliminary charges, then formal charges will be brought.

She also said that the family can file a civil suit should Joran succeed in selling an interview.  She also said the amount she is hearing locally is only $500,000 and not a million.

So seems if Joran gets paid some large amount the family of his victim can impose some kind of lien against it pending a civil suit.  That's very good to know but I bet Joran would have the money go to his mother in another country to prevent the Flores family from taking his blood money.

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« Reply #403 on: June 29, 2010, 06:45:55 PM »

I heard Joran's PI or what ever he is on Jane's show last night say that Joran's lawyer and the van der Sloot family had mutual friends in Aruba, and that is how he became involved in the case.
According to several sites his full name is Maximo Altez Navarro.

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/491968/2010/06/20/Advocaat-Joran-zal-niets-zeggen-tijdens-verhoor.dhtml

I have been trying to find anything on him and I thought they said he had a practice in Miami. I can't find a lawyer in Miami with the last name Altez or Navarro.

Carpe or Texasmom, can you do your magic?

I have done every lawyer search I can think of.  I've even done foreign consultant.  I've used Maximo; Altez ; and Navarro; in many different combos and sound likes....nothing....If he's really from Miami...sharon might be able to find info.

He's probably a NY undertaker. 


Thanks Buckeye and Sharon. I couldn't find anything either.
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« Reply #404 on: June 29, 2010, 06:48:45 PM »

Anyone know who "jenna2" is at RU?

His/her posts contain:
(1) Was the video altered with JVDS and coffee cups?
(2) Inconsistencies in blood on white shirt/SF shoes?
(3) Were JVDS and SF drugged by kidnappers?

His/her posts are quite humorous to me, as I consider this a "cookie cutter" case.
Too bad for Joran - He is in Peru and no one is around to sabotage his case.
All his mommy can do is post wacky shit on blogs, none of which are read by the three panel judge, who will send him (fudge) packing.
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« Reply #405 on: June 29, 2010, 06:48:54 PM »

http://picasaweb.google.com/BeachTennisAruba


Looks like a pretty healthy guy to me... too bad somebody had to poison him and
make his little ol` bitty heart go pop.

People are so sad sometimes!















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« Reply #406 on: June 29, 2010, 06:50:13 PM »

Information on Joran's new friend/mate the Colombian hitman:

http://cmm.lefora.com/2010/06/26/myriam-fefer-nora-dolmasso-alexander-hugo-trujillo/

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CELLBLOCK MATE


Alexander "Hugo" Trujillo Ospina aka "Clown," currently resides in Castro,
Castro prison in a cell awaiting trial. His most recent cell block mate is Joran
van der Sloot, accused murderer of Stephany Flores Ramirez. Ospina has
refused to provide a formal statement to the Judge in his case, and has
complained of not having an attorney of his choice.

 The two have reportedly been spending time together talking in a common area
of their cell block.

Van der Sloot now has refused to provide a formal statement... and complains
about his choice of attorney.

It appears Ospina is coaching Van der Sloot in delaying tactics.


The link above was emailed to me by a long time lurker


Maybe a stupid question, but why would delaying the process be a benefit to Joran?
(maybe the "clown" is his new BFF "with benefits", and he doesn't want to be separated)
I guess in Aruba it is a tactic that works/worked for him.
Does he need reminded that he is in Peru?
Just typing the monster's name disgusts me. He doesn't deserve to be addressed as something even remotely human. He's below animal status IMO.

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« Reply #407 on: June 29, 2010, 06:50:35 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_74588.php

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Unknown woman visiting Joran

June 29, 2010, 1:04 p.m. (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY / LIMA - Joran van der Sloot (22) gets in Castro Castro prison twice a week visit by an unknown woman. She would bring food and other messages for the murder suspect.

Possibly the woman paid by Joran's mother, Anita van der Sloot, said the Peruvian newspaper El Comercio. Joran is in custody on suspicion of the murder of Peruvian student Stephany Flores (1921) on May 30 in his hotel room in hotel in Lima Tec. The murder took place exactly five years after the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway. Joran is still the prime suspect for the disappearance. The Dutch television channel SBS 6 has succeeded in order to be filming in the Castro Castro prison. This is tomorrow at the station aired a documentary. During the visit told the warden about the survival of Joran, he could be sentenced.

I did see a youtube video where a Christian woman brings items for prisoners in Peru Castro prison very frequent and has been doing so for years.
Si I wonder if it is the same woman.
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« Reply #408 on: June 29, 2010, 06:51:39 PM »


FYI - I don't see any mention of Miami but I do note that Maximo looks like a walking heart attack waiting to happen.
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« Reply #409 on: June 29, 2010, 06:53:18 PM »

http://picasaweb.google.com/BeachTennisAruba


Looks like a pretty healthy guy to me... too bad somebody had to poison him and
make his little ol` bitty heart go pop.

People are so sad sometimes!

















He is not dead..mo.
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« Reply #410 on: June 29, 2010, 06:53:34 PM »

Anyone know who "jenna2" is at RU?

His/her posts contain:
(1) Was the video altered with JVDS and coffee cups?
(2) Inconsistencies in blood on white shirt/SF shoes?
(3) Were JVDS and SF drugged by kidnappers?

His/her posts are quite humorous to me, as I consider this a "cookie cutter" case.
Too bad for Joran - He is in Peru and no one is around to sabotage his case.
All his mommy can do is post wacky shit on blogs, none of which are read by the three panel judge, who will send him (fudge) packing.

Jenna2 previously Jenna aka as Resorttownmom(at SM back in 2005) is a KOOK
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« Reply #411 on: June 29, 2010, 06:54:14 PM »


FYI - I don't see any mention of Miami but I do note that Maximo looks like a walking heart attack waiting to happen.


More mafia looking than even Tacopina.  Must be the white hat/black shirt effect?

And I guess his would be La Cosa Nostro.
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« Reply #412 on: June 29, 2010, 06:54:37 PM »

4-6 months investigative phase of Joran's trial.  He has only preliminary charges, then formal charges will be brought.

She also said that the family can file a civil suit should Joran succeed in selling an interview.  She also said the amount she is hearing locally is only $500,000 and not a million.

So seems if Joran gets paid some large amount the family of his victim can impose some kind of lien against it pending a civil suit.  That's very good to know but I bet Joran would have the money go to his mother in another country to prevent the Flores family from taking his blood money.



What a "delicious sporter" Joran could be for his MOMMY...
Sit in jail and make some retirement money for her, while raising defense counsel money for himself.

If he really wants to make some money, in his PERSONA NON GRATA status, he could sell interviews on the corruption in Aruba that lead to his getting away with murder. He could sell each and every member of ALE "down the river." He could singlehandedly turn "One Happy Island" into "One Sweaty Island."
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« Reply #413 on: June 29, 2010, 06:54:55 PM »

Anyone know who "jenna2" is at RU?

His/her posts contain:
(1) Was the video altered with JVDS and coffee cups?
(2) Inconsistencies in blood on white shirt/SF shoes?
(3) Were JVDS and SF drugged by kidnappers?

His/her posts are quite humorous to me, as I consider this a "cookie cutter" case.
Too bad for Joran - He is in Peru and no one is around to sabotage his case.
All his mommy can do is post wacky shit on blogs, none of which are read by the three panel judge, who will send him (fudge) packing.


She is a REAL wackjob!
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« Reply #414 on: June 29, 2010, 06:58:12 PM »

HLN Breaking with Jean Casarez--The father of victim Stephany Flores will meet with the judge tomorrow to give his formal statement.  This is a normal step but needed even more since Joran refused to speak.

Meeting will be held in the judge's chamber.  He is an important witness for the prosecution and will likely tell how they were able to identify Joran from the casino tape and that they got his name from his casino registration.



Thanks Anna..

Joran...nail...coffin...buh byeeee!
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« Reply #415 on: June 29, 2010, 06:58:35 PM »

We are still getting a lot of misinformation.  Even Jean Casarez is a wealth of disinfo.  She's the only one I have heard say this guy is Joran's age.

Maybe someone told her that, speaking in general terms that the Clown and Joran were of the same generation.  There are lots of elderly prisoners there as I understand it.

We will have to distill the information that holds up over time just as we did with Natalee.  And yes, there are those who cling to some misinformation given out at first in that investigation even when later proven false.

Patience is difficult when we are so hungry for information but it will eventually settle on the facts.


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« Reply #416 on: June 29, 2010, 06:59:04 PM »

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Kinda sad when your nose is your larger appendage.

Well, at least in that case you could find someone to give you a nose job
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« Reply #417 on: June 29, 2010, 07:02:51 PM »

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Kinda sad when your nose is your larger appendage.

Well, at least in that case you could find someone to give you a nose job

 
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« Reply #418 on: June 29, 2010, 07:03:13 PM »

Klaas - is that Mr. Pink standing to Paul`s immediate left?
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« Reply #419 on: June 29, 2010, 07:03:56 PM »


FYI - I don't see any mention of Miami but I do note that Maximo looks like a walking heart attack waiting to happen.

And did you notice what he specializes in?
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