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Tylergal
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Quote from: Lifesong on July 02, 2010, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Edward on July 02, 2010, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: MisGivings on July 02, 2010, 09:20:18 PM
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Courtesy of PerlinUSA @ BFN
CBS48 Hours Mystery has some insight into how van der Sloot evaded police as he fled Peru.
Peru police told 48 Hours | Mystery that they believe Joranvan der Sloot, the man accused of killing Peruvian student Stephany Flores,
disposed of the SIM card in his cell phone before he was apprehended.
After van der Sloot was caught in Chile, cops confiscated his cell phone. Police later found that the SIM card had been removed.
That says a lot ...
LE had better find his service provider and find out who he called and see if any of it was digital recorded and stored on the server..
jmho
Which still leads me back to the question as to whether the Peruvian Police investigated the hotel he said he left his credit cards in when he was questioned.
I am positive that SIM card had photo and calls that would have sunk him forever..
Hi Priority to find it.. But they probably think they have enough.
The truth of the matter is Stephanie may have been looking through his cell phone images and phone numbers and THAT lit him because some of the contacts may kill him and some of the photos may have been very incriminating..
I think she was in the phone and not into his computer..
THAT would make the SIM card one of the most wanted items in this investigation..
I can just see some PATH personality with saved images of victims..fruitloop that he is.
Still catching up, but have (have!) to say this:
Stephany didn't do anything to set him off!! It infuriates to hear that. He lured her to his hotel room already knowing she wasn't going to leave alive.
She did not do anything to CAUSE him to murder her. That's BS.
I think he gets sadistic pleasure from murdering women. If you recall, he went home (after murdering Natalee) and got on the computer and watched pornography. What kind of sick SOB is that.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Pictures at the link. It looks kinda like one of the Slootmobile's but I don't pay as much attention to vehicles as others here do. I'll see if I can find my pictures of theirs.
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/19301-hoben-di-15-ana-ta-perde-control-y-dal-contra-4-auto-na-bushiri.html
Papiamentu translation:
young by 15 year is lose control y strike contra 4 car at bushiri
friday, 02 july 2010 15:53
at the bend skerpi by bushiri, one toyota prado cu will is biniendo cu velocidad enough high, before one or another motibo will owing to lose control descend caminda strike in the daihatsu a-19449 before after bay strike on the mitsubishi. the toyota prado also will owing to strike on one chevrolet a-33129 y owing to finalisa is strike one truck dt-471.
the chauffeur cu was at stuur (the steering wheel) by the toyota prado not have rijbewijs (license), is deal here by one young by 15 year cu owing to coi the car by her parent without cu they was know.
Well DUH...of course THE 15 YEAR OLD didn't have a license!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Quote from: texasmom on July 02, 2010, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: Anna on July 02, 2010, 09:37:12 PM
I hope that if Anita so much as spoke to her precious that Interpol issues an arrest for her for aiding him in his flight to prevent justice.
That's why she ADMITTED that he called her, but IMO she didn't tell the truth about what was said.
Ah, but when did he call her and how many times. And was she the female who called the hotel looking for Joran to warn him about the Interpol warrant or what role did she really play? Yes, I think she is at the least implicated.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Lifesong,
Agree. Joran was planning to murder and rob Stephnay before they ever entered that hotel room. There was nothing she did that caused it at all. He was flat broke and wanted her money and any she had in her car.
Robbery was his primary motive with rape as a secondary one.
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Quote from: Anna on July 02, 2010, 10:04:19 PM
Lifesong,
Agree. Joran was planning to murder and rob Stephnay before they ever entered that hotel room. There was nothing she did that caused it at all. He was flat broke and wanted her money and any she had in her car.
Robbery was his primary motive with rape as a secondary one.
I would add in as a tertiary motive -- revenge against Beth. The DATE of the crime certainly was on his mind as well.
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Are we still shutting down in a few hours??
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Thanks, ya'll. The implication that he was so fascinating to her that she needed to poke around in his cell phone or on his computer is, IMHO, typical chauvinistic bs.
She didn't give a crap about him, a concept still difficult for some men to grasp about any woman.
I apologize if I mistook the post, but this searching for a reason - something SHE must've done - to explain away why he murdered her is just beyond the pale and I for one can't tolerate it.
I'll leave the last word to Edward and move on from the subject. Thanks for letting me have my say on it.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Quote from: Anna on July 02, 2010, 10:04:19 PM
Lifesong,
Agree. Joran was planning to murder and rob Stephnay before they ever entered that hotel room. There was nothing she did that caused it at all. He was flat broke and wanted her money and any she had in her car.
Robbery was his primary motive with rape as a secondary one.
I would add in as a tertiary motive -- revenge against Beth. The DATE of the crime certainly was on his mind as well.
Exactly, Wreck. He was, after all, celebrating his anniversary that night. The P.o.S.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Lifesong,
Agree. Joran was planning to murder and rob Stephnay before they ever entered that hotel room. There was nothing she did that caused it at all. He was flat broke and wanted her money and any she had in her car.
Robbery was his primary motive with rape as a secondary one.
I would add in as a tertiary motive -- revenge against Beth. The DATE of the crime certainly was on his mind as well.
Exactly, Wreck. He was, after all, celebrating his anniversary that night. The P.o.S.
No way it happened for any other reason...no coincidence....and it's been undoubtedly confirmed....he is a POS.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Haven't found the slootmobile yet...
I don't remember who did this one but I crack up every time I see it!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Adios, Monkeys, it's about time to turn out the lights. I'll see you again but I don't know when. Good-bye, Monkeys, good-bye.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Quote from: texasmom on July 02, 2010, 09:59:38 PM
Pictures at the link. It looks kinda like one of the Slootmobile's but I don't pay as much attention to vehicles as others here do. I'll see if I can find my pictures of theirs.
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/19301-hoben-di-15-ana-ta-perde-control-y-dal-contra-4-auto-na-bushiri.html
Papiamentu translation:
young by 15 year is lose control y strike contra 4 car at bushiri
friday, 02 july 2010 15:53
at the bend skerpi by bushiri, one toyota prado cu will is biniendo cu velocidad enough high, before one or another motibo will owing to lose control descend caminda strike in the daihatsu a-19449 before after bay strike on the mitsubishi. the toyota prado also will owing to strike on one chevrolet a-33129 y owing to finalisa is strike one truck dt-471.
the chauffeur cu was at stuur (the steering wheel) by the toyota prado not have rijbewijs (license), is deal here by one young by 15 year cu owing to coi the car by her parent without cu they was know.
Well DUH...of course THE 15 YEAR OLD didn't have a license!
Nope not the same vehicle. Wonder if they even have the same car five years later?
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: Tylergal on July 02, 2010, 08:24:17 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on July 02, 2010, 08:14:06 PM
Won't you come home, Joran, won't you come home? I've moaned the whole day long. Your brothers do the cooking, AHATA pays the rent, and I party the whole time Renfro alone. Won't you come home, Joran, won't you come home? Our bingo parties could be so much fun. I will learn to play poker. You can slip me a joker. I will learn right along. Joran, won't you please come home!!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Grandma and her boys...
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Quote from: texasmom on July 02, 2010, 10:44:14 PM
Grandma and her boys...
Valentijn looks like Sebastian in that pic -- he lost a LOT of weight.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #842 6/27/10
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Quote from: texasmom on July 02, 2010, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: Anna on July 02, 2010, 09:37:12 PM
I hope that if Anita so much as spoke to her precious that Interpol issues an arrest for her for aiding him in his flight to prevent justice.
That's why she ADMITTED that he called her, but IMO she didn't tell the truth about what was said.
I agree & she's not about to put her big toe in Peru, imo.
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Poe Burgers... it`s what`s for dinner!
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Are we still shutting down in a few hours??
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Poe Burgers... it`s what`s for dinner!
It's NOT the "other white meat".
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Quote from: wreck on July 02, 2010, 10:47:39 PM
Quote from: texasmom on July 02, 2010, 10:44:14 PM
Grandma and her boys...
Valentijn looks like Sebastian in that pic -- he lost a LOT of weight.
Sebastian needs to take that cone out of his mouth and stick it on his forehead.
Isn`t that the way a nincompoop is supposed to eat ice cream?
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