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« Reply #1220 on: July 04, 2010, 01:58:59 AM »









Anybody else thinking what I'm thinking?  :monkeywink:  lol
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1221 on: July 04, 2010, 02:04:00 AM »

Netherlands U.S. $ 1 million calls per interview
Joran van der Sloot requires this amount to give details of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the death of Stephany Flores.
The prison has not taken away the desire of easy money. Joran Van der Sloot would be asking for this amount to give details about the disappearance and death of two young women took place in Aruba in 2005 and Peru in this year respectively.

Grad Garrett, former FBI agent, told the web Thaindian.com that if Van der Sloot able to realize this idea, the money you would receive power within the Castro Castro prison.

http://trome.pe/noticia/504915/van-sloot-pide-millon-dolares-entrevista
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« Reply #1222 on: July 04, 2010, 02:11:59 AM »

It puts a price on his testimony: Van der Sloot requested $ 1 million to give an interview
The Dutchman, confessed murderer of the young Stephany Flores, would be willing to disclose details of his crime if you pay this amount of money

It appears that Joran van der Sloot is not worried about the charges against him is the murder of Stephany Flores and the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, and seeks to profit from prison.

Site reported Thaindian.com, the Dutchman is willing to disclose details of the circumstances under which Flores was killed and the case of Holloway, who disappeared five years ago in Aruba.

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Grad Garrett, former FBI agent, told the media that if Van der Sloot able to realize this idea, the money you would receive power within the Castro Castro prison.

"I could exercise the power of money to buy things, the willingness of other prisoners and even some officials within the detention center," he said.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/504895/le-pone-precio-su-testimonio-van-der-sloot-pide-us-1-millon-dar-entrevista
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« Reply #1223 on: July 04, 2010, 02:14:08 AM »

There can be a new article everyday about what Joran "wants" -- it ain't gonna happen. Joran will die in a Peruvian prison - 6 months tops.
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« Reply #1224 on: July 04, 2010, 02:15:08 AM »

Joran Van Der Sloot Demands $1 Million For A TV Deal

July 3, 2010 (Pen Men at Work): The murder suspect Joran van der Sloot has reportedly asked for a huge amount of $1 million to disclose his side of the story on-camera.

Sloot contacted the media from jail in the Castro Castro prison in Peru and asked for the amount to tell on camera whether he had murdered the two girls Natalee Holloway and Stephany Flores.

The Dutchman is now locked inside the Peruvian prison and is waiting for trial for the murder of Stephany Flores on May 30. As per the sources in the jail, Sloot is repeatedly trying to cash on his unsavory reputation.

Former FBI agent Brad Garrett said that he is doing that only to gain more power in prison and to increase the ability to buy things there. He wants to boost his ability to influence other inmates to get his desired things.

The sources from inside the prison claim that Sloot says he is ready to appear for a television interview with anyone who can pay him $1 million.

On the other hand, the police say that Sloot has already confessed to the crime and has been trying to deny it unsuccessfully since then.

The reports of the TV deal came out just a day after van der Sloot was charged in the U.S. for trying to extort $250,000 from late Natalee Holloway’s mother ,Beth Holloway. He is the only suspect in the unresolved 2005 vanishing of the Alabama teenager on the Caribbean island of Aruba.

Van der Sloot can get a sentence of 15 to 35 years in prison if he is convicted of the murder.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/joran-van-der-sloot-demands-1-million-for-a-tv-deal_100390205.html
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« Reply #1225 on: July 04, 2010, 02:18:20 AM »

There can be a new article everyday about what Joran "wants" -- it ain't gonna happen. Joran will die in a Peruvian prison - 6 months tops.

It is interesting that his desperation may be showing. First he wanted 1M from the same NL newspaper that interviewed Anita.

That appears to not have happened.

Now he is calling the media from jail saying he will talk about Natalee and Stephany and IF he had anything to do with their deaths for 1M.

Wondering what he will throw in next when no news group bites?
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« Reply #1226 on: July 04, 2010, 02:26:04 AM »

There can be a new article everyday about what Joran "wants" -- it ain't gonna happen. Joran will die in a Peruvian prison - 6 months tops.

It is interesting that his desperation may be showing. First he wanted 1M from the same NL newspaper that interviewed Anita.

That appears to not have happened.

Now he is calling the media from jail saying he will talk about Natalee and Stephan and IF he had anything to do with their deaths for 1M.

Wondering what he will throw in next when no news group bites?
That is just it -- he has NO options. His next "plan" will be to threaten Aruban officials with blackmail. All that will do is to expose himself AND the Aruban officials. This will ALL come UN-raveled soon.
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« Reply #1227 on: July 04, 2010, 02:27:55 AM »

Note: there are some inaccuracies...

http://www.biography.com/articles/Joran-van-der-Sloot-573934

Joran van der Sloot Biography
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Infamous person. Born Joran Van der Sloot August 6, 1987, to parents Paulus and Anita Van der Sloot in Arnhem, Gelderland, Netherlands. Joran grew up in an affluent household; his father worked as a prestigious lawyer, and his mother was a socialite and school teacher. The family often traveled to exotic locals to keep up with Paulus' jobs. The eldest of three brothers, Joran was an honors student who took an avid interest in soccer and hoped as a teenager to play for a college in Tampa, Florida.

At 16, van der Sloot and his family relocated to Aruba, Jamaica, so that Paulus could accept a five-year contract as a judge for the local government. With a father as one of only four judges on the island, and a family friend as acting police chief in the area, Joran lived a life of privilege and acted with impunity. He regularly gambled on a $5,000 line of credit his father set up for him, partied with friends and picked up women. Anonymous sources later told media outlets that they believed van der Sloot was dosing the women he met with date rape drugs around this time, though these allegations have yet to be proven.

Van der Sloot became a household name in 2005, when he met Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway while she and her friends vacationed on the island of Aruba in Jamaica. Holloway, 18, was celebrating her high school graduation on an informal field trip with nearly 100 other classmates from Mountain Brook High School in Birmingham, Alabama. She and her friends met van der Sloot while they were gambling at a local casino. They invited their new Dutch friend to meet them later, at an Oranjestad, Aruba, bar known as Carlos & Charlie's. Joran agreed. He then called two friends, brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, and asked that they pick him up that night and accompany him to the bar.

That evening van der Sloot snuck out of his family's large compound to meet with Natalee and her friends. According to later testimony, the three young men headed to Carlos & Charlie's, where Holloway began dancing with van der Sloot and drinking heavily. At the protests of her friends, Natalee jumped in the car with van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers.

After Holloway didn't arrive at her hotel the next morning, police began an island-wide search for the teen. A week later after collecting their initial evidence, police arrested Joran, Deepak and Satish as suspects in Holloway's disappearance. The boys' testimonies initially coincided, saying that they all went to the beach with Holloway and then dropped her back off at her hotel. This story soon dissolved, however, when video surveillance tape of the hotel revealed that the Kalpoe brothers' car never dropped Holloway back home. Armed with a new confession, Deepak and Satish told investigators that they left van der Sloot and Holloway at a fisherman's hut on a nearby beach, at Hollway's insistence. The brothers said they didn't hear from either teen for the rest of the evening.

Van der Sloot told a different story to the police. He said that after he and Natalee were dropped off, they walked down the shoreline and became intimate. But Holloway didn't want to go back to the hotel. Tired, van der Sloot left Holloway on the beach and called the Kalpoes to pick him up. Later evidence, including text messages and Internet chat logs, reveal that van der Sloot's testimony was inaccurate.

As Joran's story became suspicious, police made van der Sloot their prime suspect. They also arrested van der Sloot's father, believing that he may have helped his son hide the body and had aided in the boys' testimonies to police. Without enough evidence to detain either member of the van der Sloot family, and with their special legal connections, police let both father and son go. The van der Sloot family returned to Holland at the end of the summer, and Natalee's body was never found.

Van der Sloot headed to Arnhem in the Netherlands to study engineering in 2006. But in 2007 he was arrested a second time when Aruba's then-chief prosecutor, Hans Mos, said he received new evidence in the case. Clues included an Internet chat log in which van der Sloot declared Holloway dead on the same day she disappeared. Van der Sloot was brought back to Aruba for trial, but judges ruled the new evidence was not enough to indict the student.

Dutch journalist Peter de Vries pulled van der Sloot back into the spotlight in 2008, after he managed to get a taped confession from the 22-year-old using a hidden camera. In the tape, a man named Patrick van der Eem, who posed as a drug dealer and criminal to become van der Sloot's friend, pulled an entirely new story from Joran. Van der Sloot said that, after the couple had sexual intercourse, they took a walk on the beach. Holloway, heavily intoxicated, began having a seizure. Scared, van der Sloot watched as the girl died in his arms. He then called a friend, who put the body on a boat and dumped it in the ocean. They determined that if a body didn't appear, there was no proof of a murder.

According to van der Eem, Joran would tell this same story over and over, admitting that he was there at the time of Holloway's death. The taped evidence aired on television, and helped push for a new investigation into the Holloway disappearance. But the video didn't hold up legally; Aruba police deemed the tape to be more bragging, and not actually a true confession. Van der Sloot also insisted that he only told the story to seem tough to van der Eem, who he thought was a professional drug dealer.

On February 11, 2010, van der Sloot's father, Paulus, died of a heart attack at the age of 57 while playing tennis. Many still believe that the elder van der Sloot had political pull in the country that kept his son from going to jail. Others maintain that Paulus helped hide Holloway's body, and then instructed the boys as to how they would confess to officials. Holloway's family insists that Paulus insinuated his son's guilt in conversations with them, but there remains no hard evidence to conclude that this is true.

In recent years, Joran van der Sloot lived a playboy lifestyle, siphoning off of his late father's inheritance and selling his story about Natalee for money. One of the more outrageous stories, as covered by the Fox News outlet, was that he sold Holloway into white slavery. He later recanted this testimony. Then in May of 2010, van der Sloot was charged in Alabama with the attempted extortion of $250,000 from Holloway's family, in return for disclosing the location of her body. According to a sworn statement by Hollway's parents, van der Sloot received a down payment of $15,000, which was wired to a Netherlands bank by the Hollways in order to get information about their missing daughter. He then led the Holloways' lawyer to a housing lot, saying that Natalie's body had been buried there with his father's help. This testimony, as in the other confessions, proved to be a hoax.

Van der Sloot would use the money he'd made to fund a gambling trip to South America. On May 30, 2010, exactly five years to the day of Holloway's disappearance, the body of 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez was found in a Lima, Peru, hotel room registered under van der Sloot's name. According to Flores' father, the girl had been staying with a girlfriend in Lima when she met van der Sloot. The Dutchman was in town for a poker tournament, and closed circuit television cameras caught the couple leaving a casino in Lima together. A witness later testified that they spotted the couple heading to van der Sloot's room. Stephany Flores was never seen alive again.

Authorities say the hotel room where Flores was found was covered in blood, indicating a struggle. The girl was beaten, her neck broken, and her body wrapped in a hotel sheet. Van der Sloot was arrested in Chile several days later and returned with authorities to Peru, where he reportedly confessed to the murder. Van der Sloot told Lima police that he had left Flores in the hotel room while he went to get them coffee. When he returned, the woman was on his laptop—supposedly looking at evidence that may have tied him to the Holloway murder. Van der Sloot flew into a rage, then allegedly snapped Flores' neck. He also admitted to emptying the girl's wallet, then fleeing the scene.

Van der Sloot was charged with the Flores murder in June 2010, and sent to Peruvian jail to await trial. Van der Sloot's attorney argued that the confession should be nullified on the grounds that it was made in the presence of a police-appointed defense lawyer. A Peruvian police chief disagreed, citing that van der Sloot was not only properly represented at the time, but that evidence included blood stains found on van der Sloot's clothing.

On June 21, 2010, a Dutch newspaper revealed that van der Sloot had again recanted his murder testimony. This time, van der Sloot said that he had made his confession to the Flores murder under duress, and that Peruvian officials told him he would be transferred to the Netherlands if he admitted to the killing. "I was tricked," van der Sloot told the Dutch paper. "I'll explain later how it all happened."

Van der Sloot is currently being held in a the maximum-security Castro Castro prison in eastern Lima. He asked to be separated from the other prisoners after receiving death threats from the prison population. Friends, family, and even van der Sloot's own mother have refused to visit him—his mother recently told reporters that her son suffers from mental problems, and that he should suffer the consequences for committing the Flores' murder. Sources say that van der Sloot's lawyers may attempt an insanity plea, hoping to reduce the Dutchman's sentence to six years. But insanity isn't enough to prevent a protracted prison sentence; if a suspect ruled clinically insane still demonstrates a knowledge of right and wrong they can be punished to the fullest extent of the law for their crimes. If tried and convicted, van der Sloot faces anywhere from 15 to 35 years in prison.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1228 on: July 04, 2010, 02:37:53 AM »

There can be a new article everyday about what Joran "wants" -- it ain't gonna happen. Joran will die in a Peruvian prison - 6 months tops.

It is interesting that his desperation may be showing. First he wanted 1M from the same NL newspaper that interviewed Anita.

That appears to not have happened.

Now he is calling the media from jail saying he will talk about Natalee and Stephan and IF he had anything to do with their deaths for 1M.

Wondering what he will throw in next when no news group bites?
That is just it -- he has NO options. His next "plan" will be to threaten Aruban officials with blackmail. All that will do is to expose himself AND the Aruban officials. This will ALL come UN-raveled soon.

That will be a wonderful day when they all start eating each other. 
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« Reply #1229 on: July 04, 2010, 02:42:42 AM »

Joran complains lawyer LONDON - Jordan van der Sloot has been indicted lawyer. She would not have been allocated by the State but in reality it would have paid her a stranger.

That did Joran's current lawyer, Maximo Altez, said. The lawyer who was indicted, Luz Romero Chinchay, Joran was at the time of the murder of Stephany Flores in Peru. She was among others present during police questioning. The police chief who led the hearing, has been indicted.

Altez Chinchay to identify who has paid. According to him she would be involved in a conspiracy, says the U.S. news channel Fox News.

Joran's lawyer has already appealed against the decision of a court to the results of police investigations is not invalid. His confession would be enforced. Wilder court rejected the request Casique Alvizuri however,

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/7104585/__Joran_klaagt_advocaat_aan__.html?sn=binnenland,buitenland
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« Reply #1230 on: July 04, 2010, 02:48:37 AM »

urine faces 35 years to life.......all the bs he and his lawyer/team just shows how pathetic urine and his lawyer/team is.....
urine has got NOTHING...but a hell on earth remaining in a Peruvian prison.... and hell for eternity....
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« Reply #1231 on: July 04, 2010, 03:09:33 AM »

This is urine's last poker game...he is all in.....
and he will lose.....just like he has his whole life.......
paulass was a loser...
anita is a loser...
aruba is a loser.....
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« Reply #1232 on: July 04, 2010, 03:10:21 AM »

There can be a new article everyday about what Joran "wants" -- it ain't gonna happen. Joran will die in a Peruvian prison - 6 months tops.

It is interesting that his desperation may be showing. First he wanted 1M from the same NL newspaper that interviewed Anita.

That appears to not have happened.

Now he is calling the media from jail saying he will talk about Natalee and Stephan and IF he had anything to do with their deaths for 1M.

Wondering what he will throw in next when no news group bites?
That is just it -- he has NO options. His next "plan" will be to threaten Aruban officials with blackmail. All that will do is to expose himself AND the Aruban officials. This will ALL come UN-raveled soon.

I want him to threaten suing the FBI.  Wink
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« Reply #1233 on: July 04, 2010, 03:12:43 AM »

Keepthefaith.....Lakers won in 7......
Wishing you God's Blessings my friend.....along with all Good Monkeys....
Good Night.....
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« Reply #1234 on: July 04, 2010, 03:13:41 AM »

There can be a new article everyday about what Joran "wants" -- it ain't gonna happen. Joran will die in a Peruvian prison - 6 months tops.

It is interesting that his desperation may be showing. First he wanted 1M from the same NL newspaper that interviewed Anita.

That appears to not have happened.

Now he is calling the media from jail saying he will talk about Natalee and Stephan and IF he had anything to do with their deaths for 1M.

Wondering what he will throw in next when no news group bites?
That is just it -- he has NO options. His next "plan" will be to threaten Aruban officials with blackmail. All that will do is to expose himself AND the Aruban officials. This will ALL come UN-raveled soon.

I want him to threaten suing the FBI.  Wink
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« Reply #1235 on: July 04, 2010, 04:10:37 AM »

Even if Joran told the truth about everything he knew regarding corruption in Aruba, would it really cause any Arubans problems?  Would anyone believe Joran after all his lies?  How could be corroborate his claims?  Paulus is dead, so he's neither a threat nor is he threatened.

Would not everyone Joran accuses simply use the standard Aruban defense of denying every thing and all sticking together and making sure their stories fit?

Joran is history, or soon will be.  Whatever cards he has left to play will simply be regarded as more empty bluffs.  Unfortunately, I don't see how he can bring anyone down with him.
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« Reply #1236 on: July 04, 2010, 07:21:58 AM »

There can be a new article everyday about what Joran "wants" -- it ain't gonna happen. Joran will die in a Peruvian prison - 6 months tops.

It is interesting that his desperation may be showing. First he wanted 1M from the same NL newspaper that interviewed Anita.

That appears to not have happened.

Now he is calling the media from jail saying he will talk about Natalee and Stephany and IF he had anything to do with their deaths for 1M.

Wondering what he will throw in next when no news group bites?

Joran is an idiot.  He thinks he can make a living by telling stories about the women he has killed.  That is the reason he killed Stephanie - his lies about Natalee werent paying anymore.  Hopefully soon, someone will be making money talking about what they did to Joran in prison.
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« Reply #1237 on: July 04, 2010, 07:25:13 AM »


I want him to threaten suing the FBI.  Wink

He is dumb enough to do that too.
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« Reply #1238 on: July 04, 2010, 07:28:20 AM »






That is by far, the ugliest freaking suit I have ever seen. 

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« Reply #1239 on: July 04, 2010, 09:02:28 AM »

Even if Joran told the truth about everything he knew regarding corruption in Aruba, would it really cause any Arubans problems?  Would anyone believe Joran after all his lies?  How could be corroborate his claims?  Paulus is dead, so he's neither a threat nor is he threatened.

Would not everyone Joran accuses simply use the standard Aruban defense of denying every thing and all sticking together and making sure their stories fit?

Joran is history, or soon will be.  Whatever cards he has left to play will simply be regarded as more empty bluffs.  Unfortunately, I don't see how he can bring anyone down with him.

I agree.  Aruba is not worried about Joran unless he has some explosive proof that Aruba cannot deny.  Explosive meaning documents.  Now he does have his PV's and if my memory is correct he also has the Kalpoes and Freddy's.

The news agency that pays Joran $1,000,000 for his story will get what?  A bunch of lies that's what.  He will sit there saying all this crap meanwhile he will be smirking at the camera.  This is exactly what Joran wants.
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