Natalee Case Discussion #843 7/14/10 - 7/31/10

[2NJSons_Mom]

Thank you, Anna.  I was just about to post the same. 

[Edward]

OT.. Note from one of my sons ..

Anthrax poision found in detergent packages of TIDE coming through the mail system.
Do not open or use.

7 people dead already.

Oh, Edward!

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/perfume.asp
 
Anthrax poison in Tide detergent packs coming through the mail. Do not open or use, 7 dead already. This is real not a chain letter.

 
HOAX!


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Thank You
I will let him know. Better safe then sorry.

[texasmom]

http://chattahbox.com/world/2010/07/16/jordan-van-der-sloot-an-even-bigger-monster-accused-of-underage-sex-trafficking/

Jordan Van Der Sloot an Even Bigger Monster; Accused of Underage Sex Trafficking

Peru (ChattahBox) – Thought his obvious guilt in the deaths of two women was bad enough? Turns out Jordan Van der Sloot might have been trafficking underage girls to use as sex slaves, including two who are now missing and feared dead.

Shortly after his release from an Aruba prison for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, Van der Sloot moved to Thailand under an assumed name, under cover as a college student, the Daily Beast reports.

However, his real reason for being there, it is alleged, was as the owner of DD Consulting, a “modeling agency” that was dedicated to finding young girls to strip in Dutch clubs, and work as prostitutes in the country.

He was given a $13,000 finders fee for each girl he brought over, a deal he had made through a friend that got him in touch with a pimp back in the Netherlands.

He was arrested, and then released once again, for the Holloway disappearance, and went back to Bangkok, where he started trafficking in earnest.

According to emails he sent friends, he bragged of dozens of girls who had been recruited as dancers, but would be sold as sex slaves and prostitutes once they reached Dutch soil.

He used the $13,000 fee a piece to invest in a coffee shop, called Sawadee Cup, an investment that earned him a great deal of money, while giving him a never ending pool of potential prostitutes to send home for more cash.

It was Peter R. De Vries, an investigative journalist who is well known for his work in exposing Van der Sloot, that led to hidden camera footage finding its way to police. In it, the despicable scumbag is sitting in a hotel with a great deal of underage girls, promising them “$15,000 to shake their ass”.

Two of the girls on the tape are now missing, and Van der Sloot is suspected in their disappearance, which may be related to the trafficking business he had been conducting.

It is people like this that really test my conviction against the death penalty.

Thanks Klaas! 

[Blonde]

According to this site Peter de Vries has reported that Joran's DNA has been found on a dead teen in Thialand. Killed in 2008.


http://article.wn.com/view/2010/07/12/Joran_Van_Der_Sloot_Suspected_of_Thailand_Sex_Trade_Connecti/


If it comes up a page showing a picture of Joran, click on the breaking news on the right side

News Update: Van der Sloot DNA Found on Thailand Dead Girl !!!
Peter De Vries has reported DNA of Joran Van Der Sloot was found on the body of a dead teen involved in sex trade prostiution in Thailand.....The Girl died in 2008, but the DNA match of Van der sloot was just confirmed by Police detectives in Thailand.......

[Anna]

Two of the girls in that VID with Joran are missing?  That would be absolutely horrific if true.

Does anyone know anything about these sources?  Are they reliable.  We had something like this before but that guy of the de Virus tapes was not reliable.

At least Peru now has Joran's DNA on file and can share the info with any and all who need it to verify anything.

Joran does specialize is no body, no case after all.

[klaasend]

According to this site Peter de Vries has reported that Joran's DNA has been found on a dead teen in Thialand. Killed in 2008.


http://article.wn.com/view/2010/07/12/Joran_Van_Der_Sloot_Suspected_of_Thailand_Sex_Trade_Connecti/


If it comes up a page showing a picture of Joran, click on the breaking news on the right side

News Update: Van der Sloot DNA Found on Thailand Dead Girl !!!
Peter De Vries has reported DNA of Joran Van Der Sloot was found on the body of a dead teen involved in sex trade prostiution in Thailand.....The Girl died in 2008, but the DNA match of Van der sloot was just confirmed by Police detectives in Thailand.......

Still going back to that same guy and his Youtube. 

[San]

Joran Van der Sloot, suspect in Holloway and Flores murders involved in Thai sex slave gang: tabloid

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world%20/2010/07/16/2010-07-16_joran_van_der_sloot_suspect_in_holloway_and_flores_murders_involved_in_thai_sex_.html#ixzz0tsEgndyt

[msmarple]

Good afternoon Monkeys. I'm just saying hello, really, but will throw out the OPINION that the Thai + Joran stuff we're seeing isn't coming from anywhere reliable.

[klaasend]

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/19815-casting-pa-comercial-pa-promove-turismo.html






I suggest they use this



Followed by this:



Then this:

[Northern Rose]

Netherlands Consulate denies official translator in Peru, as the police claimed to question Van der Sloot.
Embassy supports Joran complaint

Money in the trial against Joran van der Sloot. THE FIRST had access to a document that the Embassy of Holland's attorney sent abroad, Maximum Highness, where the consulate states that do not have an official translator in Peru, which reinforces the accusation of being accused murderer of Stephany Flores because his confession was obtained through the participation of Dutchman Maurice Steins, who posed as an official translator.

Following confirmation of the nonexistence of a diplomatic embassy official Joran's legal defense sent a complaint to the extension of 48 Lima Criminal Provincial Prosecutor to investigate the Steins for the crime of usurpation of authority and false generic, which add to the accusations of abuse of authority, an offense of conspiracy to commit a crime and the crime of misrepresentation against the police Homicide Division of the Dirincri.

Furthermore, the expansion of Joran complaint indicates that the policemen who were conducting the interrogation misled him by indicating that Steins was an official translator, which adds to the fault is the absence of counsel because the lawyer who was This was imposed and merely a passive witness throughout the proceedings.

Diplomatic letter
The maximum of 12 July Highness sent a letter to the Netherlands Embassy, asking to be informed of the identity of the official translators they have in our land, which responds Embassy on 13 July (in document FIRST enclosed) that "the embassy of the Kingdom of the Netherlands does not have an official translator, document signed by Norma Johanson Casapía, consul attached.

http://www.diariolaprimeraperu.com/online/policial/embajada-respalda-denuncia-de-joran_66295.html

[Northern Rose]

Document from Consulate

http://www.diariolaprimeraperu.com/online/images/2010/julio/16/p1.jpg

[nonesuche]

Hi All - congrats to Jen on the wonderful news!

This may have been posted already, I've been traveling with work again so can't keep up adequately.

It does state that officials in Thailand have requested a meeting with the Peruvian officials? This writer has been following Joran's case weekly?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-07-15/joran-van-der-sloots-sex-trade-accusations/?cid=hp:mainpromo6

Held in a Peruvian jail on murder charges, Joran van der Sloot is now also accused of trafficking underage Thai girls for sex—including two who have gone missing.

As Joran van der Sloot waits in a Peruvian jail to be tried for the murder of Stephany Flores, it increasingly appears that a highly disturbed young man was allowed to rampage freely for years.

New revelations indicate that the list of missing women linked to the 22-year-old Dutchman may grow even longer, all because Aruban police failed to imprison him five years ago. Not long after Van der Sloot narrowly escaped prosecution for the disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba on May 30, 2005, he headed home to Holland to finish his studies. He had served three months in Aruban jail after Holloway disappeared, but was released that September due to lack of evidence. Back in Holland, he took a few classes, but spent most of his time gambling in the casinos and smoking pot in coffee bars.

In Holland, he met up with an old friend who had just returned from Thailand with a string of exotic dancers. The friend was netting $13,000 in cash for each woman he brought into a Dutch prostitution ring. Van der Sloot, a born risk-taker, wanted in on the action, and his friend quickly set him up with the Dutch pimp....

(Excerpt) ...The scheme was going swimmingly until Van der Sloot’s chief nemesis, Dutch investigative journalist Peter R. De Vries, caught him on hidden camera with a hotel room full of underage women. Van der Sloot can be heard offering them “$15,000 to shake your ass.” The women, of course, would never see that money. A few months after De Vries’ exposé, Dutch authorities started investigating Van der Sloot for human trafficking but never charged him. Now, revelations that two young Thai sex workers who appear on that video are missing have prompted Thai police to open an investigation. They have officially requested access to Van der Sloot in Peru....

[Northern Rose]

NOT SURE IF THIS IS REAL OR A JOKE

Dutch Blame van der Sloot For World Cup Loss


The Netherlands team honors their national hero during the 2006 World Cup, a year before he's arrested and charged with murder

ROTTERDAM (CAP) - Still smarting from their recent World Cup loss to Spain, the Royal Netherlands Football Association (Koninklijke Nederlandse Voetbalbond) issued a statement today pinning the blame for their finals loss squarely on the shoulders of accused double murderer Joran van der Sloot.

According to Netherlands head coach Bert van Marwijk, van der Sloot was considered a "football prodigy," identified as early as the age of three as the future of football for that country. van Marwijk said it was Joran's prowess on the field that prompted the team to send him and his family to Aruba to allow him the opportunity to practice year-round.

"Our hope was that he would flower into the world's greatest striker," van Marwijk said through a translator. "We did not for a moment, however, consider that he would instead become the world's most infamous murderer since O.J. Simpson and Michael Jackson."

Officials at the International School of Aruba with whom CAP News spoke remembered Joran as quite the football player and very competitive. Teacher Patrica de Neve recalled times when Joran would be playing at recess and if a game wasn't going his way, he would simply punch the other children out.

"Not just push them aside or knock them down, mind you," said de Neve. "I'm talking rock 'em sock 'em, sleep till next week, lights the frick out style.

"I'm pretty sure he could have been a great footballer, but I definitely know he'd be awesome in a role that involves inflicting extreme violence on others," added de Neve. "We actually put that on his report card when he was 11. If only there was a job that allowed him to take advantage of that skill set."

The overwhelming feeling in the Dutch football community is that by focusing on things like clubbing, gambling, and killing young women instead of playing, van der Sloot has set the national program back at least 30 years.

"He would have been the most amazing player the world has ever seen," said Giovanni van Bronckhorst. "I saw him play in a club tournament once - he was only eight years old, but he was playing with boys in their late teens. I was like, Holy Schnibblets! This kid is going places! But he just never took it seriously.

"While the rest of us were out working our asses off, Joran was just goofing off," van Bronckhorst added. "Goofing off and killing people, I guess, but mostly just goofing off."

The Netherlands holds the record for most appearances in World Cup finals without a win, and the curse of Joran has left that nation's football players with a bad taste in their mouths.

"With Joran, we would have become the Yankees, but without him we're the Cubs," said Dutch forward Dirk Kuyt. "And now he's off in some swanky South American country-club prison, and we're stuck here with the shame of being losers.

"I swear to God, if I ever see him again, I'm really going to let him know how disappointed I am in him," added Kuyt. "For the football stuff, of course. The other stuff, eh - who really cares?"

http://www.crystalair.com/story.php?id=201007007

[wreck]

Hi All - congrats to Jen on the wonderful news!

This may have been posted already, I've been traveling with work again so can't keep up adequately.

It does state that officials in Thailand have requested a meeting with the Peruvian officials? This writer has been following Joran's case weekly?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-07-15/joran-van-der-sloots-sex-trade-accusations/?cid=hp:mainpromo6

Held in a Peruvian jail on murder charges, Joran van der Sloot is now also accused of trafficking underage Thai girls for sex—including two who have gone missing.

As Joran van der Sloot waits in a Peruvian jail to be tried for the murder of Stephany Flores, it increasingly appears that a highly disturbed young man was allowed to rampage freely for years.

New revelations indicate that the list of missing women linked to the 22-year-old Dutchman may grow even longer, all because Aruban police failed to imprison him five years ago. Not long after Van der Sloot narrowly escaped prosecution for the disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba on May 30, 2005, he headed home to Holland to finish his studies. He had served three months in Aruban jail after Holloway disappeared, but was released that September due to lack of evidence. Back in Holland, he took a few classes, but spent most of his time gambling in the casinos and smoking pot in coffee bars.

In Holland, he met up with an old friend who had just returned from Thailand with a string of exotic dancers. The friend was netting $13,000 in cash for each woman he brought into a Dutch prostitution ring. Van der Sloot, a born risk-taker, wanted in on the action, and his friend quickly set him up with the Dutch pimp....

(Excerpt) ...The scheme was going swimmingly until Van der Sloot’s chief nemesis, Dutch investigative journalist Peter R. De Vries, caught him on hidden camera with a hotel room full of underage women. Van der Sloot can be heard offering them “$15,000 to shake your ass.” The women, of course, would never see that money. A few months after De Vries’ exposé, Dutch authorities started investigating Van der Sloot for human trafficking but never charged him. Now, revelations that two young Thai sex workers who appear on that video are missing have prompted Thai police to open an investigation. They have officially requested access to Van der Sloot in Peru....

I think the Thai allegations are gaining momentum!! .................... and I really thuink they are true!

[Northern Rose]

Foreign lawyers to defend alleged murderer Dutchman in Peru

 A team of foreign lawyers tried today to demonstrate to the Peruvian justice system that the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is innocent of the murder of Peruvian Stephany Flores and has psychological problems.

Judicial sources said that although the Dutchman in 23 years confessed having committed the crime, appealed to the judiciary to deal released this process that is followed by simple murder and theft.

Lawyers paid by the family of the detainee refused and appealed the detention imprisonment imposed upon him by a civil court and that keeps him in the prison of Miguel Castro Castro maximum security.

Lima Superior Court will decide if legal and psychologically evaluated.

According to unofficial sources, Joe Tacopina, a former supporter of Michael Jackson on trial for child abuse, would be one of the lawyers who defend the Dutchman, who was expelled from Chile after having fled from Lima, where he committed the murder.

Van der Sloot confessed to police that Flores because this murderer to investigate his past in the Internet and reached into his computer, where they discovered his criminal record in Aruba, where he was accused of the disappearance and death of American Natalee Holloway.

The citizen Dutchman has refused to testify in court and filed an appeal against Colonel Miguel Canlla, whom he accused of having pressured to obtain information, which would have violated due process.

Anita Van del Sloot, mother of the alleged murderer of Stephany Flores told a Peruvian television station to help his son one last time.

`` I afford a lawyer, I will see you have a mattress and clean clothes.''

Claimed, before learning of the murder allegedly committed by his son in Lima received a call in which she said, `` Mama, they know who I am also here.''

`` I think Joran, because of all those traumatic experiences, has changed.

And it's really a psychiatric patient who needs help.

I was ready to send Joran to the clinic, "he said.

http://sdpnoticias.com/sdp/contenido/2010/07/15/4/1078993

[Jo-An]

Good afternoon Monkeys. I'm just saying hello, really, but will throw out the OPINION that the Thai + Joran stuff we're seeing isn't coming from anywhere reliable.

If they say Peter R de Vries has reported that... well, he hasn't. If that were the case, it would be all over the Dutch media. 

And about Dutch people blaming Joran for losing the World Cup final... haha!
Not true either!
So yeah, a joke, and not even a good one. 

[klaasend]

Good afternoon Monkeys. I'm just saying hello, really, but will throw out the OPINION that the Thai + Joran stuff we're seeing isn't coming from anywhere reliable.

If they say Peter R de Vries has reported that... well, he hasn't. If that were the case, it would be all over the Dutch media. 

And about Dutch people blaming Joran for losing the World Cup final... haha!
Not true either!
So yeah, a joke, and not even a good one. 

They didn't say Peter R. de Vries, he said de Virus 

I blame th World Cup final on Joran too - bad karma 

[crazybabyborg]

Hi Monkeys!

The thing that makes it hard to know about the new Thailand allegations is that Joran is capable of doing exactly what has been reported here. If he didn't do it, it's just because the opportunity didn't present itself, IMO.

[MuffyBee]

Hi Monkeys!

The thing that makes it hard to know about the new Thailand allegations is that Joran is capable of doing exactly what has been reported here. If he didn't do it, it's just because the opportunity didn't present itself, IMO.

Hi Cee Bee Bee 

ITA

[wreck]

Hi Monkeys!

The thing that makes it hard to know about the new Thailand allegations is that Joran is capable of doing exactly what has been reported here. If he didn't do it, it's just because the opportunity didn't present itself, IMO.

I think that where there is smoke.... there's fire.