Natalee Case Discussion #843 7/14/10 - 7/31/10

[Buckeye]

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The article in it's entirety:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-07-15/joran-van-der-sloots-sex-trade-accusations/2/


Van der Sloot's Sex-Trade Scheme
by Barbie Latza Nadeau
July 15, 2010 | 11:01pm

Held in a Peruvian jail on murder charges, Joran van der Sloot is now also accused of trafficking underage Thai girls for sex—including two who have gone missing.

As Joran van der Sloot waits in a Peruvian jail to be tried for the murder of Stephany Flores, it increasingly appears that a highly disturbed young man was allowed to rampage freely for years.

New revelations indicate that the list of missing women linked to the 22-year-old Dutchman may grow even longer, all because Aruban police failed to imprison him five years ago. Not long after Van der Sloot narrowly escaped prosecution for the disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba on May 30, 2005, he headed home to Holland to finish his studies. He had served three months in Aruban jail after Holloway disappeared, but was released that September due to lack of evidence. Back in Holland, he took a few classes, but spent most of his time gambling in the casinos and smoking pot in coffee bars.

He bragged to friends by email that he had recruited a dozen young Thai women who were on their way to Holland—each for a finder’s fee of $13,000.


Van der Sloot told his parents that he wanted to go to Thailand to study and make a fresh start in a country where no one would have ever heard of him or Natalee Holloway. But what he really wanted to do was cash in on the country’s lucrative sex trade. He enrolled in Rangsit University as a cover, got a student visa, and took on an assumed name. By day, he would play the role of a student. By night, he would be Murphy Jenkins, owner of DD Consulting, which he would describe as a modeling agency specializing in placing strippers in Holland’s better clubs. He even had business cards with a Dutch telephone number printed up.

But just before he was to leave for Thailand in November 2007, he was arrested again on suspicion of Holloway’s murder. This time Holloway’s father and his team of private investigators had come close to proving Van der Sloot’s involvement in her disappearance. Aruban authorities were sure that under the right circumstances, Van der Sloot would eventually confess. But just three weeks later, on December 7, 2007, they were foiled again. Under Aruban law, there just wasn’t enough evidence to keep the young man locked up. Van der Sloot was released again, and immediately took off for Bangkok.

Once in Thailand, he quickly entered the sex trade as a recruiter of young exotic dancers who would, unbeknownst to them, be sold as prostitutes instead. In just a few weeks, he bragged to friends by email that he had recruited a dozen young Thai women who were on their way to Holland—each for a finder’s fee of $13,000. Van der Sloot may be despicable, but he was shrewd with the money. He invested his earnings in the Sawadee Cup coffee bar, a popular haunt for the student crowds and an easy place to find new recruits for his growing sex-trafficking gig. He even posted a tour of the café on his YouTube page.

The scheme was going swimmingly until Van der Sloot’s chief nemesis, Dutch investigative journalist Peter R. De Vries, caught him on hidden camera with a hotel room full of underage women. Van der Sloot can be heard offering them “$15,000 to shake your ass.” The women, of course, would never see that money. A few months after De Vries’ exposé, Dutch authorities started investigating Van der Sloot for human trafficking but never charged him. Now, revelations that two young Thai sex workers who appear on that video are missing have prompted Thai police to open an investigation. They have officially requested access to Van der Sloot in Peru.

Throughout 2009, Van der Sloot was spotted across the globe at various poker tournaments. He won $12,000 at the Asia Pacific Poker Tournament in Macau, where he reportedly assaulted a young woman after inviting her to his room following a night at a local casino. That young woman is filing an official complaint and cooperating with the Peruvian and Dutch authorities, a source tells The Daily Beast. Van der Sloot lived in Bangkok until his father died in February 2010 when he sold the Sawadee Cup café and returned to Aruba to be with his mother. Two months after his father’s death, Van der Sloot attempted to extort $250,000 from Natalee Holloway’s mother. He was formally indicted on that charge by a U.S. federal grand jury in late June.

Authorities in Aruba will be questioning Van der Sloot in his Peruvian jail cell in August regarding new information they have received from Holloway’s father, who is again in Aruba with private investigators trying desperately to find his daughter. But even if the Arubans finally have enough evidence to pin Holloway’s murder to his growing rap sheet, they will have to get in line. They missed their chance to stop him not once, but twice. For the family of Stephany Flores—and, perhaps, the missing Thai women—that is an unforgivable mistake.

Barbie Latza Nadeau, author of the Beast Book Angel Face, about Amanda Knox, has reported from Italy for Newsweek magazine since 1997. She also writes for CNN Traveller, Budget Travel Magazine and Frommer's.

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Is it just me?  or does this post say 7:00 pm??

[Buckeye]

    
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #843
« Reply #217 on: July 17, 2010, 07:00:14 PM »


Klaas's previous post???

[Anna]

Wreck, I got that message yesterday too.  It was during a post and I took too long and it said my session timed out and I'd have to re-post.  It may have something to do with a setting.  I'll find out.

It doesn't seem to like my new avatar I just made.  It keeps deleting it and replacing it with the infamous Red "X".  Hope I don't have to load it to photobucket to get it to stay.  I'm too lazy today.

[Buckeye]

My reply #220 is dated July 17, 2010 12:40:32

Anna's post #221 is dated July 17,2010 07:41:52


Do I have something set wrong?

 

[wreck]

My reply #220 is dated July 17, 2010 12:40:32

Anna's post #221 is dated July 17,2010 07:41:52


Do I have something set wrong?

 

I saw that yeserday too. My time was about 4pm and Klaas' post time was like 8 hours different.

[wreck]

My reply #220 is dated July 17, 2010 12:40:32

Anna's post #221 is dated July 17,2010 07:41:52


Do I have something set wrong?

 

I saw that yeserday too. My time was about 4pm and Klaas' post time was like 8 hours different.

Anna's post says 6:41 pm on mine!

[klaasend]

Buckeye - I believe we are transitioning from one web service to another a little at a time.  I'd wait another 24 hours or so and see if the time is fixed for you.  By then everyone should be automatically converted over to the new web service/server.

There is a script running that is moving people over a little at a time.

[klaasend]

Buckeye - I believe we are transitioning from one web service to another a little at a time.  I'd wait another 24 hours or so and see if the time is fixed for you.  By then everyone should be automatically converted over to the new web service/server.

There is a script running that is moving people over a little at a time.

This is the IP of the new server.  Try going to this address, log in and see how your time is looking.  Note, you will automatically be moved over to the new IP eventually anyway (according to Justen).

66.240.208.150

[Buckeye]

Buckeye - I believe we are transitioning from one web service to another a little at a time.  I'd wait another 24 hours or so and see if the time is fixed for you.  By then everyone should be automatically converted over to the new web service/server.

There is a script running that is moving people over a little at a time.

This is the IP of the new server.  Try going to this address, log in and see how your time is looking.  Note, you will automatically be moved over to the new IP eventually anyway (according to Justen).

66.240.208.150

I hate to say this, but how do I go to an IP address??

[Buckeye]

Buckeye - I believe we are transitioning from one web service to another a little at a time.  I'd wait another 24 hours or so and see if the time is fixed for you.  By then everyone should be automatically converted over to the new web service/server.

There is a script running that is moving people over a little at a time.

This is the IP of the new server.  Try going to this address, log in and see how your time is looking.  Note, you will automatically be moved over to the new IP eventually anyway (according to Justen).

66.240.208.150

I hate to say this, but how do I go to an IP address??

Never mind...just copy and paste.

[Buckeye]

I have to stop for now.  I was already signed in, at the new IP.  My post is at both places and the times are screwy at both.  I will wait until the work is done and not worry that I did something weird.

Thanks

[klaasend]

I have to stop for now.  I was already signed in, at the new IP.  My post is at both places and the times are screwy at both.  I will wait until the work is done and not worry that I did something weird.

Thanks

I've sent our tech guy an email with the problem but I think he's "off" for the weekend.

[Buckeye]

I have to stop for now.  I was already signed in, at the new IP.  My post is at both places and the times are screwy at both.  I will wait until the work is done and not worry that I did something weird.

Thanks

I've sent our tech guy an email with the problem but I think he's "off" for the weekend.

Thank you....and by the way, this post of yours, has the correct time. 

[klaasend]

You could also go into your profile and see if your time is still set to the correct time:

The forum time is set to Central time, so in my case if I have -2 then my time is set correctly because I'm on the west coast and I'm 2 hours behind Central.



I'm assuming if you are on the east coast you would put in that field +1

Anyway, check and see if that field has an erroneous number in it.

[wreck]

You could also go into your profile and see if your time is still set to the correct time:

The forum time is set to Central time, so in my case if I have -2 then my time is set correctly because I'm on the west coast and I'm 2 hours behind Central.



I'm assuming if you are on the east coast you would put in that field +1

Anyway, check and see if that field has an erroneous number in it.

I AM on Central Time -- my own time is fine! 

[Northern Rose]

Joran van der Sloot filed formal charges (with video of the newest Highness)

Peru, July 17 (DiarioBuenaNueva) .- Through its new champion, Max Highness, Joran van der Sloot formalized the complaint against his first lawyer, Marina Romero, for allegedly not having advised well in his first interrogation, prompting adeclararse author Stephany Young murder of Flores.

Highness said that Romero does not have any documents proving that the defendant as counsel to the Netherlands, because it was chosen at random by the police

He further reported that Van der Sloot translator, Maurice Steins, was also reported to complicate the situation of the accused did not understand legal terms and not accredited by the Netherlands Embassy in Peru.

"FORCED DECLARATION"
It also blamed the police for allegedly forcing declaracióninicial FloresFlores Stephany's murderer ": http://elcomercio.pe/tag/147999/stephany-flores.

According to counsel, Joran "felt threatened, because police told him they were going to enter your head in a bucket of water and told him that if he signed the statement he would be deported immediately to their land, Aruba."

On the other hand, said that the accused is depressed by everything that happened and requested respect for their rights and a fair trial.

http://diariobuenanueva.com/joran-van-der-sloot-formalizo-denuncia/

[Northern Rose]

(with video)

Van der Sloot complaint to his first lawyer and traductorEl Dutchman Joran van der Sloot's lawyer formally denounced Marina Romero, who assisted him during his first interrogation by the crime of the young Stephany Flores, occurred last May 30 and the translator Maurice Steins, who was present during interrogation. Maximum Highness, the current defense of Van der Sloot, counsel would have advised the young Dutchman or inducing him to confess to the crime. While Steins claimed not mastered complicated legal terms and the status of his client.

http://www.surtitulares.com/rss-all/item/11475-van-der-sloot-denuncia-a-su-primera-abogada-y-a-traductor

[Northern Rose]

Joran also complains translator
NU.nl - hare 2 horas

AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot has his lawyer and the translator was present during the interrogation and confession of the murder of Stephany Flores, officially indicted.
 
His new lawyer, Maximo Altez, the Peruvian television showed the indictment with the signature of Van der Sloot see.

Van der Sloot's lawyer, Marina Romero, was previously sued by her former client.



According Altez was never clear whom Romero Van der Sloot had been allocated. The police would have brought her there, while Van der Sloot, according to Peruvian law suite or pro-Deoadvocaat should have had.


No official translator

A letter from the Dutch embassy would appear that the translator, Maurice Stein, an official translator appointed by the embassy. According to some legal terminology Altez he would not control.

The police, according Altez the confession of the murder of Flores, on May 30 in a hotel in Lima, enforced. Van der Sloot was, according to his lawyer scared because police threatened to have his head under water level. Also, he promised that after his confession could go to Aruba.


Confession withdrawn

Van der Sloot, who is trapped in the heavily guarded Miguel Castro Castro prison in the Peruvian capital, has now withdrawn his confession. If convicted, he sees a prison sentence of between 15 and 35 years meet.

http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2294811/joran-klaagt-vertaler.html

[2NJSons_Mom]

Buckeye - I believe we are transitioning from one web service to another a little at a time.  I'd wait another 24 hours or so and see if the time is fixed for you.  By then everyone should be automatically converted over to the new web service/server.

There is a script running that is moving people over a little at a time.

This is the IP of the new server.  Try going to this address, log in and see how your time is looking.  Note, you will automatically be moved over to the new IP eventually anyway (according to Justen).

66.240.208.150

I hate to say this, but how do I go to an IP address??

Never mind...just copy and paste.

fwiw, I see the same thing you posted, Buckeye, and I believe I am logged into the new server....

[Nut44x4]

Looking up in the "rafters"........... I really like your nickname "Judge Mental" ! 

I agree......always love to see that name