Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #2 6/30/10 - 7/5/10

[Tamikosmom]

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband.

ROSEBURG — Ron Tarver hesitates when asked whether his ex-wife, Terri Moulton Horman, could be behind the disappearance of her stepson, Kyron Horman.

Tarver says she cheated on him during their four-year marriage. Then she left him in 1995. But responsible for what happened to a 7-year-old boy?

“I don’t know [what she’s capable of doing],” says Tarver, standing with his current wife, Angela Rockwood, outside their house in this Southern Oregon town of 21,000 people.

“We’re not blind. Obviously they’re zeroing in on Terri,” Tarver says. “I just have a hard time believing anyone would be capable of doing that.”

Tarver does know one thing for sure: Cops were homing in on Terri Moulton Horman within days of Kyron’s disappearance. As first reported June 17 on wweek.com, law-enforcement sources say the investigation has increasingly focused on Kyron’s stepmom.

In the latest developments, Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman, filed for divorce from Terri Moulton Horman on June 28, citing irreconcilable differences. He also took out a restraining order against her under the Family Abuse Prevention Act. A judge has sealed that request.

Tarver, who is 41, has followed the story from 200 miles away in Roseburg, tied to the unfolding drama by his marriage to Terri Moulton 19 years ago.

They were married in 1991, when Tarver was 22 and she was 21.

But the marriage fizzled, Tarver says, after Moulton began cheating on him and the restaurant they owned together failed.

Moulton kept custody of James, and Tarver saw the boy regularly on weekends—but recently, James left his mother’s home to live with his maternal grandparents in Roseburg.

Until then James had been living with his mother and Kaine Horman off Cornelius Pass Road in unincorporated Multnomah County. Also sharing the house was Kyron, who is Kaine Horman’s son from his first marriage, and Kiara, the couple’s 18-month-old daughter.

After Kyron vanished, the reasons why James left his home and friends in Portland to move to Southern Oregon have been the subject of intense speculation. Terri Moulton Horman declined to comment when WW visited her home June 23.

James was a student at Lincoln High School in Portland, where he was on the swim team and played trumpet in the school band. Tarver says Terri Moulton Horman sent the boy to Roseburg in March this year because his grades were slipping and he was acting out at home.

“He and Kaine on occasion butted heads, because James is hard-headed,” Tarver says.

Trouble hit home again when Kyron disappeared. The day after Kyron vanished, Tarver says, James went to the Hormans’ house for a previously planned weeklong visit.

Tarver says on June 8, four days after Kyron disappeared, James called him from the Hormans’ house and mentioned Terri Moulton Horman had taken a polygraph test. It’s been reported that she has since taken a second polygraph. What hasn’t been publicly confirmed until now is that authorities were already focusing on her so soon after Kyron vanished.

Tarver says when James mentioned the polygraph to him over the phone, he heard Terri Moulton Horman begin yelling in the background to be quiet and not reveal anything more. Given the intense media scrutiny, the family agreed James should return to Roseburg, Tarver says.

“It was a zoo, so we got him out of there,” Tarver says. “It’s just been devastating for the whole family. Obviously, the longer it drags on, the less chance there is for a happy ending.”
 
http://wweek.com/editorial/3634/14214/

Hey ... my grown son humbled his father and I when he as a teenager.  He acted out ... his grades were slipping and ... we butted heads but ... banishing him from the home was never an option.

This guy eventually matured and grew a brain.  He redeemed himself completely when our lovely DIL and then a beautiful grandson entered the picture. 

Janet

That is good to hear. Unfortunately my son played ping pong back and forth for a while. He is now 20, has emotional handicaps and not much has changed but I can tell you that as Mother to my Son I never once loved him any less at any point. Dissapointed, most definately but love is never ending when it comes to your Child.

Patricia

Maturity for our children does not happen overnight ... it gradually happens when adapting to life's challenges outside the home.  You son had just begun his journey.

Hugs

Janet

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

I go with my gut, that is all I ever do, and I see a depressed woman who has let herself go for whatever reason. I look at Kaine and see a control freak and don't like his vibes. Not scientific, just how I always do things. If I am wrong then I'm wrong, doesn't bother me to say I have made a mistake what so ever.

No problem NRCG I completely understand. Same here pretty much. I was just curious if there were something else out there that I may not have seen.

[Tamikosmom]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

What "recent developments and concerns" is this poster referring to?

Janet

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

Thank you for those words of wisdom Janet. I am always hopeful. (((((((HUGS)))))))

[cw618]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

What "recent developments and concerns" is this poster referring to?

Janet

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall
i found some great topos of the area, please dont stop looking

Sauvie Island, Oregon Topographic Map
http://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=40051

Linnton, Oregon Topographic Map
http://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=25843

 a tunnel,a quarry
Places Within This Map View:
Place  Type  Coordinates (click to center)
Cornelius Pass  Gap  N45.60900° W122.86316°
Skyline School  School  N45.60762° W122.85677°
McCoy (historical)  Locale  N45.61373° W122.86121°
http://www.topoquest.com/map.php?lat=45.60762&lon=-122.85677&datum=nad83&zoom=4
 

 

[ospainter]

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OS

Very interesting, thank-you.

YW, don't know what it's about, but must be something going on with the search.

OS

[ospainter]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

What "recent developments and concerns" is this poster referring to?

Janet

Sorry I don't know, maybe that person will say later, dunno. Doubt it has anything directly to do with Kyron though.

OS

[klaasend]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

Wonder what's up with this?

[cubbeegirl]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

Wonder what's up with this?

Me too...

[bananas]

The personal dynamics of this family, might be totally seperate from Kyron's having gone missing.  Same for whatever 'lifestyle' that some in the family might be into. 

For a moment, I'm gonna try to seperate all that out and just focus on Kyron. 

What if ........

Is it possible that a minor, known to the family in some way, may have lured him away from the school?  If this minor was near and dear to the hearts of one or more in the family, could the whole family try and cover that up, in their own ways?  And if so, could the stress from doing that cause even more division within the family?  Til one by one they stepped away from the main one/s who refuse to let go a cover up?  Even if in the doing that cover up, it made themselves look guilty as hell?  Would one or more try to control what is said publically, so that info in one interview won't contradict info given in another interview?  Would they work this hard to protect the minor, even while knowing that a younger child is gone, yet not wanting to lose another?  How would a family look to outsiders if/when all but one or two have decided a cover-up is not worth the price being paid by all?  How would it look?  Kind of like what we have been seeing? 

 

 

LOL - good post Wyks.

Do you just want to say it?

< chuckles >

I want someone to just say it. James?

I could not be more convinced that the above named minor had nothing to do with this.

JMO, and I am sticking to it.

Brandi, I have to agree.  I think the Barefoot Bandit is not involved in this at all.

[Tracygirl]

another point I have been thinking about. Seems to me that the police in alot on these type cases think they will take the "last known" person to have seen the missing person and rap their knuckles with a hammer and the case is magically solved. That's not really how these cases work.

The public and NOT the media often brings in that tip that solves a case.

I have a feeling that the police are trying to spare someone - probably Terri - some public embarrassment. Personally I don't care what she was doing as long as it wasn't involved with missing Kyron and I think alot of people feel the same way. And sealing this RO makes no sense unless it's the height of embarrassment.

The public DOES have a right to know what the heck is going on here.

Lastly, about this being an isolated incident - yeah ok sure, prove it to me. Morgan Harrington investigators said the same thing - now that suspect is related to two more alleged crimes. When the police say the community has nothing to fear - who the heck do they think they are? You have a missing child and no suspects, no person of interest and no one has been arrested. I'd lock my doors a lil tight thank you very much. Who knows if this is the beginning of a pattern or not and from what I have seen the police can't make that determination either.

Exactly!

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

The personal dynamics of this family, might be totally seperate from Kyron's having gone missing.  Same for whatever 'lifestyle' that some in the family might be into. 

For a moment, I'm gonna try to seperate all that out and just focus on Kyron. 

What if ........

Is it possible that a minor, known to the family in some way, may have lured him away from the school?  If this minor was near and dear to the hearts of one or more in the family, could the whole family try and cover that up, in their own ways?  And if so, could the stress from doing that cause even more division within the family?  Til one by one they stepped away from the main one/s who refuse to let go a cover up?  Even if in the doing that cover up, it made themselves look guilty as hell?  Would one or more try to control what is said publically, so that info in one interview won't contradict info given in another interview?  Would they work this hard to protect the minor, even while knowing that a younger child is gone, yet not wanting to lose another?  How would a family look to outsiders if/when all but one or two have decided a cover-up is not worth the price being paid by all?  How would it look?  Kind of like what we have been seeing? 

 

 

LOL - good post Wyks.

Do you just want to say it?

< chuckles >

I want someone to just say it. James?

I could not be more convinced that the above named minor had nothing to do with this.

JMO, and I am sticking to it.

Brandi, I have to agree.  I think the Barefoot Bandit is not involved in this at all.

I'm not sure but the influence and his being viewed by many as some type of hero is likely possible and frightening all at the same time.

[ospainter]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

Wonder what's up with this?

Sounds to me like admin might have heard something they don't agree with about the search or searchers. dunno

Couple more responses from Admin:

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman
At this point the page itself will remain as I research other alternatives. However any requests or notices for donations will be removed.

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman
I would like to thank everyone for their tremendous generosity in supporting this cause. I am truly overwhelmed at the responses we have recieved. You have all truly restored my faith in the human spirit. Thank you all so very much!

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman
noone is threatening me. Thank you for your concern though.

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman
Harry is not pulling out. I am sorry I cant be more specific but I am no longer confident in supporting this search.

OS

[Tamikosmom]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

What "recent developments and concerns" is this poster referring to?

Janet

Sorry I don't know, maybe that person will say later, dunno. Doubt it has anything directly to do with Kyron though.

OS

Thanks OS.

I appauld any individual or private organization that takes it upon themselves to assist in the search for Kyron Horman as long as the investigation is not being hindered.

However ... if funds are being solicited ... to avoid any misunderstandings ... I believe that prior to giving from the heart ... a potential donor should receive assurance that there will be accountability provided regarding disbursements.

IMO

Janet

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

There is no reason for their sudden change of position regarding their support. (I was unaware what those people were doing until now.)
Thanks for the update.

[Wyks]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

Hmmm.. trouble in paradise.  This is one of the main organizers pulling out.  Still not sure why, others are asking of her WTH happened. 

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

OOps I meant there is no reason "given".

[Tamikosmom]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

Wonder what's up with this?

Sounds to me like admin might have heard something they don't agree with about the search or searchers. dunno

Couple more responses from Admin:

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman
At this point the page itself will remain as I research other alternatives. However any requests or notices for donations will be removed.

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman
I would like to thank everyone for their tremendous generosity in supporting this cause. I am truly overwhelmed at the responses we have recieved. You have all truly restored my faith in the human spirit. Thank you all so very much!

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman
noone is threatening me. Thank you for your concern though.

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman
Harry is not pulling out. I am sorry I cant be more specific but I am no longer confident in supporting this search.

OS

K A I N E ?

[seahorse]

http://www.katu.com/

A  body has been found in Columbia River, near Rooster Park.

This is on top of the link, no mention whatsoever of the age or gender.  We don't know as of this second.

[Brandi]

http://www.katu.com/

A  body has been found in Columbia River, near Rooster Park.

This is on top of the link, no mention whatsoever of the age or gender.  We don't know as of this second.

Boater discovers dead body in the Columbia River near Rooster Rock State Park. Multomah County River Patrol confirms. Details to come.     

15 minutes ago  via web 

http://twitter.com/KATUNews