Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #2 6/30/10 - 7/5/10

[Tracygirl]

this is where I usually give my lil spiel about being careful who you give donations to - but you have all heard it before  : )

lol, you made me look.

[Brandi]

Thanks Brandi for the map. It is forsure down river from Kyrons area. The rafter was drowned right around the area the body was found so my guess it is him. It is nine days since he drowned, it would make sense he would suface right about now. Poor guy, if this is not him, I pray they find him soon

Can't they just say if it is the body of an adult or child. My gosh..

Would have been good to wait to even mention it when they had more details, I agree.

But unfortunately, today news is more about ratings and who reported something first, no matter if the facts are there or not.

*sigh*

[no rose colored glasses]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31000958&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=113113938734246&aid=-1&id=1574903192&oid=113113938734246    I don't know what to think about this rope and hair found on the island.

[klaasend]

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Columbia-River-Body-Found/MUtmkIWzhUaHSQc7yhOCLA.cspx


Columbia River Body Found

Last Update: 3:05 pm

CORBETT, Ore. - A body was found in the Columbia River Saturday, near Rooster Rock.

Deputies suspect it could be the remains of Jordan Jaco, a rafter who went missing June 25, when his raft reportedly flipped over in high winds upstream, on the Washington side of the river near Stevenson, Wash. He was last seen attempting to swim to shore, but he apparently didn't make it.

However, law officers stopped short of confirming that it was Jaco's body which was recovered Saturday afternoon. They did say it was definitely not the body of Kyron Horman, the second-grader who disappeared from Skyline Elementary School more than four weeks ago.

The medical examiner's office is conducting an autopsy to confirm the identity, and also to officially determine the cause of death.

[Brandi]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31000958&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=113113938734246&aid=-1&id=1574903192&oid=113113938734246    I don't know what to think about this rope and hair found on the island.

No idea what that is a picture from. But I'd think a lot of rope and pieces of rope would be found on any island?

I don't see hair.

[Gypsy DD]

✂ snipped ✂
I do not doubt it and here is why,
Terri is the one who was calling the shots.
If there were such bad relationship between her Husband and son, whcih I suspect there possibly were, then there were options other than to send her son away. She herself sent her son to live with the GrandParents. That says to me that she was attempting to alleviate the tension in the family without taking mroe extreme measures.
Here are a few other options:
Counseling, seperation, divorce.
imo

I am not so sure Terri was the one calling the shots. What makes you think she was?

Just curious where you get this

http://wweek.com/editorial/3634/14214/

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband.


"James was a student at Lincoln High School in Portland, where he was on the swim team and played trumpet in the school band. Tarver says Terri Moulton Horman sent the boy to Roseburg in March this year because his grades were slipping and he was acting out at home."

If KH was anything like a lot of Step Dad's I've seen who were having issues with a hard headed step Son then I suspect he would have suggested something other than a friendly move to GranMa and GrandPa's house. (Bootcamp?) Just saying and jmo jmo jmo

In the oringinal report of K.Horman's brother being arrested I thought I read due to molesting a 16 year old family member.  The family member is unnamed.  Maybe Kaine and Terri saw something wrong with Kaine's brother earlier this year..and thought they needed to remove the 16 year old out of harms way..and the story was Kaine and the 16 year old didn't get along? 

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31000958&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=113113938734246&aid=-1&id=1574903192&oid=113113938734246    I don't know what to think about this rope and hair found on the island.

The weeds were pulled back?
I wonder Who took this pic?
 
If not taken by LE then couldn't skin particles, hairs or fibres of the person who took the pic possibly then be found on the rope if it were indeed related to this or another case somehow. (I don't believe it is related but that is just me.)
So much for sanitary? jmo

[no rose colored glasses]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31000958&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=113113938734246&aid=-1&id=1574903192&oid=113113938734246    I don't know what to think about this rope and hair found on the island.

No idea what that is a picture from. But I'd think a lot of rope and pieces of rope would be found on any island?

I don't see hair.

There are several pictures and a lot of comments about it. I would think there would be a lot of rope also, just found some of the comments interesting.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks Klaas for the update. I really don't know about those pictures just that it is on the FB for Kyron.

[Brandi]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31000958&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=113113938734246&aid=-1&id=1574903192&oid=113113938734246    I don't know what to think about this rope and hair found on the island.

No idea what that is a picture from. But I'd think a lot of rope and pieces of rope would be found on any island?

I don't see hair.

There are several pictures and a lot of comments about it. I would think there would be a lot of rope also, just found some of the comments interesting.

I am not a FB person, so I was a little lost. Didn't read the comments. Didn't see there were comments! LOL

I did go through all the pics and saw one of my Daily Kyron memento pictures posted there.

[Gypsy DD]

Also wanted to add..is this why the molestation charges against Kaine's brother came out during the investigation into Kyron's disappearance?  Just makes sense to me.

But ..althouth it is not a popular opinion..I still believe that the SM has a lot of explaining to do..why lie on a lie detector test if you and those you know are innocent?   

I think that LE knows what they are doing...haven't other agencies been involved..FBI, etc?   

There is a reason this is happening..maybe Terri was upset that Kaine's brother abused her son..and wanted to show Kaine what it was like..unforetunately..whoever she entrusted Kyron to has, imo, done more then abuse him.  Could this be about Terri's revenge for what her son went through and Kaine covering up..just sending him away..rather then turning in his brother..until Kryon was missing?

[no rose colored glasses]

Tamara Beezley
Trust me...it was hair. Even LE said so. They don't call the Sergeant out and then pull someone in MCSO from off the case to come out and bag it if it's just a piece of string or something.    (one of the comments, I guess this Tamara woman found the hair on a search, don't know if she was searching by herself or with a group)

[Tracygirl]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31000958&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=113113938734246&aid=-1&id=1574903192&oid=113113938734246    I don't know what to think about this rope and hair found on the island.

No idea what that is a picture from. But I'd think a lot of rope and pieces of rope would be found on any island?

I don't see hair.

I don't see hair either but my screen is not that good. This person should not have touched anything and just called LE to come check it out. I was looking at the rocks but again my screen at work is horrible. Does anyone see signs of blood or bodily fluids? Seems like rope would be something you would find, however it is also something handy to use as well if you were kidnapping someone. Did they call this in to LE? That is what they should do. imo

[no rose colored glasses]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31000958&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=113113938734246&aid=-1&id=1574903192&oid=113113938734246    I don't know what to think about this rope and hair found on the island.

No idea what that is a picture from. But I'd think a lot of rope and pieces of rope would be found on any island?

I don't see hair.

I don't see hair either but my screen is not that good. This person should not have touched anything and just called LE to come check it out. I was looking at the rocks but again my screen at work is horrible. Does anyone see signs of blood or bodily fluids? Seems like rope would be something you would find, however it is also something handy to use as well if you were kidnapping someone. Did they call this in to LE? That is what they should do. imo

Yes I posted that police were called and it was bagged. Probably doesn't mean much, but I guess you never know.

[Tracygirl]

Tamara Beezley
Trust me...it was hair. Even LE said so. They don't call the Sergeant out and then pull someone in MCSO from off the case to come out and bag it if it's just a piece of string or something.    (one of the comments, I guess this Tamara woman found the hair on a search, don't know if she was searching by herself or with a group)

Oh ok, so le was called, good. Interesting that they responded like this. Do you know if they have roped off the area?

[Starlit]

Tanner, Kyrons deskmate and self procalimed Best Friend of Kyrons spoke to the media.
The LE told him not to, but his young grandmother, age 43 told him to.

Tanners father lives on Suavies Island, is married to a Ann Pumala. Ann left town after Kyron went missing is what I have been told.

Could Tanners mother have been the babysitter that morning for TH?

Tanners Grandmothers home is/was in foreclosure. Who bought this home? The sale was just finalized in the last couple of days.

Some of these answers could lead us to Kyron.


 Realtor.com listing for Grandma Pumalas home:

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/16230-Nw-Sheltered-Nook-Rd_Portland_OR_97231_1118027205

Foreclosure Sale on Grandma Pumalas home:

http://www.vestus.com/foreclosure/OR/Multnomah/PORTLAND/16230-NW-SHELTERED-NOOK-RD-97231/99251

[Tracygirl]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31000958&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=113113938734246&aid=-1&id=1574903192&oid=113113938734246    I don't know what to think about this rope and hair found on the island.

No idea what that is a picture from. But I'd think a lot of rope and pieces of rope would be found on any island?

I don't see hair.

I don't see hair either but my screen is not that good. This person should not have touched anything and just called LE to come check it out. I was looking at the rocks but again my screen at work is horrible. Does anyone see signs of blood or bodily fluids? Seems like rope would be something you would find, however it is also something handy to use as well if you were kidnapping someone. Did they call this in to LE? That is what they should do. imo

Yes I posted that police were called and it was bagged. Probably doesn't mean much, but I guess you never know.

Thats right NRCG you never know.. I think it is good to question everything and not set ones mind on one theory. Maybe this will end up being the one tip and find that leads to Kyron. I hope he is alive too obviously but the thought of him not being alive and just dumped somewhere is just awful. Everyone deserves to be respectfully buried.

Did they ever search the dump? What day was trash day in this area of Portland, I don't recall if we ever found out.

[Tracygirl]

Tanner, Kyrons deskmate and self procalimed Best Friend of Kyrons spoke to the media.
The LE told him not to, but his young grandmother, age 43 told him to.

Tanners father lives on Suavies Island, is married to a Ann Pumala. Ann left town after Kyron went missing is what I have been told.

Could Tanners mother have been the babysitter that morning for TH?

Tanners Grandmothers home is/was in foreclosure. Who bought this home? The sale was just finalized in the last couple of days.

Some of these answers could lead us to Kyron.


 Realtor.com listing for Grandma Pumalas home:

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/16230-Nw-Sheltered-Nook-Rd_Portland_OR_97231_1118027205

Foreclosure Sale on Grandma Pumalas home:

http://www.vestus.com/foreclosure/OR/Multnomah/PORTLAND/16230-NW-SHELTERED-NOOK-RD-97231/99251

Hi Starlit, can you explain the leap from the grandmother to the mother to the babysitter? I am not understanding the connection. TIA

[klaasend]

Tanner, Kyrons deskmate and self procalimed Best Friend of Kyrons spoke to the media.
The LE told him not to, but his young grandmother, age 43 told him to.

Tanners father lives on Suavies Island, is married to a Ann Pumala. Ann left town after Kyron went missing is what I have been told.

Could Tanners mother have been the babysitter that morning for TH?

Tanners Grandmothers home is/was in foreclosure. Who bought this home? The sale was just finalized in the last couple of days.

Some of these answers could lead us to Kyron.


 Realtor.com listing for Grandma Pumalas home:

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/16230-Nw-Sheltered-Nook-Rd_Portland_OR_97231_1118027205

Foreclosure Sale on Grandma Pumalas home:

http://www.vestus.com/foreclosure/OR/Multnomah/PORTLAND/16230-NW-SHELTERED-NOOK-RD-97231/99251

Good question.  I think Blink did a post on the Pumala's as well.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/#more-4019

[no rose colored glasses]

Tamara Beezley
Trust me...it was hair. Even LE said so. They don't call the Sergeant out and then pull someone in MCSO from off the case to come out and bag it if it's just a piece of string or something.    (one of the comments, I guess this Tamara woman found the hair on a search, don't know if she was searching by herself or with a group)

Oh ok, so le was called, good. Interesting that they responded like this. Do you know if they have roped off the area?

Now that I didn't see any comments about, so I don't know.