Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #2 6/30/10 - 7/5/10

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

✂ snipped ✂
I do not doubt it and here is why,
Terri is the one who was calling the shots.
If there were such bad relationship between her Husband and son, whcih I suspect there possibly were, then there were options other than to send her son away. She herself sent her son to live with the GrandParents. That says to me that she was attempting to alleviate the tension in the family without taking mroe extreme measures.
Here are a few other options:
Counseling, seperation, divorce.
imo

I am not so sure Terri was the one calling the shots. What makes you think she was?

Just curious where you get this

http://wweek.com/editorial/3634/14214/

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband.


"James was a student at Lincoln High School in Portland, where he was on the swim team and played trumpet in the school band. Tarver says Terri Moulton Horman sent the boy to Roseburg in March this year because his grades were slipping and he was acting out at home."

If KH was anything like a lot of Step Dad's I've seen who were having issues with a hard headed step Son then I suspect he would have suggested something other than a friendly move to GranMa and GrandPa's house. (Bootcamp?) Just saying and jmo jmo jmo

[Kat_Gram]

I am going ot butt in here. I think that things were not good in the home for quite a while and Terri was forced to send James to Gramps & Grandma to keep the peace
( her marriage, her income, etc. in her house ) James  ? Maybe he was the red headed step child in that house. Seems as if she had some choices to make and she made them. Or they were made for her. 

[Brandi]

✂ snipped ✂
I do not doubt it and here is why,
Terri is the one who was calling the shots.
If there were such bad relationship between her Husband and son, whcih I suspect there possibly were, then there were options other than to send her son away. She herself sent her son to live with the GrandParents. That says to me that she was attempting to alleviate the tension in the family without taking mroe extreme measures.
Here are a few other options:
Counseling, seperation, divorce.
imo

I am not so sure Terri was the one calling the shots. What makes you think she was?

Just curious where you get this

http://wweek.com/editorial/3634/14214/

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband.


"James was a student at Lincoln High School in Portland, where he was on the swim team and played trumpet in the school band. Tarver says Terri Moulton Horman sent the boy to Roseburg in March this year because his grades were slipping and he was acting out at home."

If KH was anything like a lot of Step Dad's I've seen who were having issues with a hard headed step Son then I suspect he would have suggested something other than a friendly move to GranMa and GrandPa's house. (Bootcamp?) Just saying and jmo jmo jmo

Ah. Thanks.

I was thinking you meant something along the lines of Terri wearing the pants in the family. LOL

You meant concerning Ron and Terri's son. Terri is reportedly the one who sent their son to live with the grandparents according to Ron.

Thanks for clarifying that.

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

OMG I saw the name "Ron" and had to step back and remember which case I was currently following. LOL!

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

I am going ot butt in here. I think that things were not good in the home for quite a while and Terri was forced to send James to Gramps & Grandma to keep the peace
( her marriage, her income, etc. in her house ) James  ? Maybe he was the red headed step child in that house. Seems as if she had some choices to make and she made them. Or they were made for her. 

Sadly that is what it is appearing to be imo also.

[Tamikosmom]

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband.

ROSEBURG — Ron Tarver hesitates when asked whether his ex-wife, Terri Moulton Horman, could be behind the disappearance of her stepson, Kyron Horman.

Tarver says she cheated on him during their four-year marriage. Then she left him in 1995. But responsible for what happened to a 7-year-old boy?

“I don’t know [what she’s capable of doing],” says Tarver, standing with his current wife, Angela Rockwood, outside their house in this Southern Oregon town of 21,000 people.

“We’re not blind. Obviously they’re zeroing in on Terri,” Tarver says. “I just have a hard time believing anyone would be capable of doing that.”

Tarver does know one thing for sure: Cops were homing in on Terri Moulton Horman within days of Kyron’s disappearance. As first reported June 17 on wweek.com, law-enforcement sources say the investigation has increasingly focused on Kyron’s stepmom.

In the latest developments, Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman, filed for divorce from Terri Moulton Horman on June 28, citing irreconcilable differences. He also took out a restraining order against her under the Family Abuse Prevention Act. A judge has sealed that request.

Tarver, who is 41, has followed the story from 200 miles away in Roseburg, tied to the unfolding drama by his marriage to Terri Moulton 19 years ago.

They were married in 1991, when Tarver was 22 and she was 21.

But the marriage fizzled, Tarver says, after Moulton began cheating on him and the restaurant they owned together failed.

Moulton kept custody of James, and Tarver saw the boy regularly on weekends—but recently, James left his mother’s home to live with his maternal grandparents in Roseburg.

Until then James had been living with his mother and Kaine Horman off Cornelius Pass Road in unincorporated Multnomah County. Also sharing the house was Kyron, who is Kaine Horman’s son from his first marriage, and Kiara, the couple’s 18-month-old daughter.

After Kyron vanished, the reasons why James left his home and friends in Portland to move to Southern Oregon have been the subject of intense speculation. Terri Moulton Horman declined to comment when WW visited her home June 23.

James was a student at Lincoln High School in Portland, where he was on the swim team and played trumpet in the school band. Tarver says Terri Moulton Horman sent the boy to Roseburg in March this year because his grades were slipping and he was acting out at home.

“He and Kaine on occasion butted heads, because James is hard-headed,” Tarver says.

Trouble hit home again when Kyron disappeared. The day after Kyron vanished, Tarver says, James went to the Hormans’ house for a previously planned weeklong visit.

Tarver says on June 8, four days after Kyron disappeared, James called him from the Hormans’ house and mentioned Terri Moulton Horman had taken a polygraph test. It’s been reported that she has since taken a second polygraph. What hasn’t been publicly confirmed until now is that authorities were already focusing on her so soon after Kyron vanished.

Tarver says when James mentioned the polygraph to him over the phone, he heard Terri Moulton Horman begin yelling in the background to be quiet and not reveal anything more. Given the intense media scrutiny, the family agreed James should return to Roseburg, Tarver says.

“It was a zoo, so we got him out of there,” Tarver says. “It’s just been devastating for the whole family. Obviously, the longer it drags on, the less chance there is for a happy ending.”
 
http://wweek.com/editorial/3634/14214/

Hey ... my grown son humbled his father and I when he as a teenager.  He acted out ... his grades were slipping and ... we butted heads but ... banishing him from the home was never an option.

This guy eventually matured and grew a brain.  He redeemed himself completely when our lovely DIL and then a beautiful grandson entered the picture. 

Janet

[no rose colored glasses]

✂ snipped ✂
I do not doubt it and here is why,
Terri is the one who was calling the shots.
If there were such bad relationship between her Husband and son, whcih I suspect there possibly were, then there were options other than to send her son away. She herself sent her son to live with the GrandParents. That says to me that she was attempting to alleviate the tension in the family without taking mroe extreme measures.
Here are a few other options:
Counseling, seperation, divorce.
imo

I am not so sure Terri was the one calling the shots. What makes you think she was?

Just curious where you get this

I don't think she was calling the shots either, she looks like a depressed and beaten down woman to me, IMO

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband.

ROSEBURG — Ron Tarver hesitates when asked whether his ex-wife, Terri Moulton Horman, could be behind the disappearance of her stepson, Kyron Horman.

Tarver says she cheated on him during their four-year marriage. Then she left him in 1995. But responsible for what happened to a 7-year-old boy?

“I don’t know [what she’s capable of doing],” says Tarver, standing with his current wife, Angela Rockwood, outside their house in this Southern Oregon town of 21,000 people.

“We’re not blind. Obviously they’re zeroing in on Terri,” Tarver says. “I just have a hard time believing anyone would be capable of doing that.”

Tarver does know one thing for sure: Cops were homing in on Terri Moulton Horman within days of Kyron’s disappearance. As first reported June 17 on wweek.com, law-enforcement sources say the investigation has increasingly focused on Kyron’s stepmom.

In the latest developments, Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman, filed for divorce from Terri Moulton Horman on June 28, citing irreconcilable differences. He also took out a restraining order against her under the Family Abuse Prevention Act. A judge has sealed that request.

Tarver, who is 41, has followed the story from 200 miles away in Roseburg, tied to the unfolding drama by his marriage to Terri Moulton 19 years ago.

They were married in 1991, when Tarver was 22 and she was 21.

But the marriage fizzled, Tarver says, after Moulton began cheating on him and the restaurant they owned together failed.

Moulton kept custody of James, and Tarver saw the boy regularly on weekends—but recently, James left his mother’s home to live with his maternal grandparents in Roseburg.

Until then James had been living with his mother and Kaine Horman off Cornelius Pass Road in unincorporated Multnomah County. Also sharing the house was Kyron, who is Kaine Horman’s son from his first marriage, and Kiara, the couple’s 18-month-old daughter.

After Kyron vanished, the reasons why James left his home and friends in Portland to move to Southern Oregon have been the subject of intense speculation. Terri Moulton Horman declined to comment when WW visited her home June 23.

James was a student at Lincoln High School in Portland, where he was on the swim team and played trumpet in the school band. Tarver says Terri Moulton Horman sent the boy to Roseburg in March this year because his grades were slipping and he was acting out at home.

“He and Kaine on occasion butted heads, because James is hard-headed,” Tarver says.

Trouble hit home again when Kyron disappeared. The day after Kyron vanished, Tarver says, James went to the Hormans’ house for a previously planned weeklong visit.

Tarver says on June 8, four days after Kyron disappeared, James called him from the Hormans’ house and mentioned Terri Moulton Horman had taken a polygraph test. It’s been reported that she has since taken a second polygraph. What hasn’t been publicly confirmed until now is that authorities were already focusing on her so soon after Kyron vanished.

Tarver says when James mentioned the polygraph to him over the phone, he heard Terri Moulton Horman begin yelling in the background to be quiet and not reveal anything more. Given the intense media scrutiny, the family agreed James should return to Roseburg, Tarver says.

“It was a zoo, so we got him out of there,” Tarver says. “It’s just been devastating for the whole family. Obviously, the longer it drags on, the less chance there is for a happy ending.”
 
http://wweek.com/editorial/3634/14214/

Hey ... my grown son humbled his father and I when he as a teenager.  He acted out ... his grades were slipping and ... we butted heads but ... banishing him from the home was never an option.

This guy eventually matured and grew a brain.  He redeemed himself completely when our lovely DIL and then a beautiful grandson entered the picture. 

Janet

That is good to hear. Unfortunately my son played ping pong back and forth for a while. He is now 20, has emotional handicaps and not much has changed but I can tell you that as Mother to my Son I never once loved him any less at any point. Dissapointed, most definately but love is never ending when it comes to your Child.

[seahorse]

http://www.myspace.com/angelssensualsocialclub

I found the "Angel's" Social Club, Baa..ha..ha on the photos, not PG rated.

[no rose colored glasses]

I am going ot butt in here. I think that things were not good in the home for quite a while and Terri was forced to send James to Gramps & Grandma to keep the peace
( her marriage, her income, etc. in her house ) James  ? Maybe he was the red headed step child in that house. Seems as if she had some choices to make and she made them. Or they were made for her. 

That is what I think as well, keep the peace, and decisions were made for her.

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

✂ snipped ✂
I do not doubt it and here is why,
Terri is the one who was calling the shots.
If there were such bad relationship between her Husband and son, whcih I suspect there possibly were, then there were options other than to send her son away. She herself sent her son to live with the GrandParents. That says to me that she was attempting to alleviate the tension in the family without taking mroe extreme measures.
Here are a few other options:
Counseling, seperation, divorce.
imo

I am not so sure Terri was the one calling the shots. What makes you think she was?

Just curious where you get this

I don't think she was calling the shots either, she looks like a depressed and beaten down woman to me, IMO

What are you basing your thoughts on NRCG? The before or after pictures?
I am certain that issues with her Son may have caused her to be depressed to a point. I'm not so sure that she was quite so torn up prior to Kyle's disappearance. Do we have any real evidence to view or learn that would prove that was the case? Are there any pictures or statements from anyone close to her that would cause me to think as you do or?

[no rose colored glasses]

✂ snipped ✂
I do not doubt it and here is why,
Terri is the one who was calling the shots.
If there were such bad relationship between her Husband and son, whcih I suspect there possibly were, then there were options other than to send her son away. She herself sent her son to live with the GrandParents. That says to me that she was attempting to alleviate the tension in the family without taking mroe extreme measures.
Here are a few other options:
Counseling, seperation, divorce.
imo

I am not so sure Terri was the one calling the shots. What makes you think she was?

Just curious where you get this

I don't think she was calling the shots either, she looks like a depressed and beaten down woman to me, IMO

What are you basing your thoughts on NRCG? The before or after pictures?
I am certain that issues with her Son may have caused her to be depressed to a point. I'm not so sure that she was quite so torn up prior to Kyle's disappearance. Do we have any real evidence to view or learn that would prove that was the case? Are there any pictures or statements from anyone close to her that would cause me to think as you do or?

I have based my thoughts on the Christmas pictures were Terri looked slim and happy, then son is gone, and six months later, little Kyron is gone, and I see a woman that has changed appearance drastically and not for the better.

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

What if the first pictures that were taken of TH (The ones from the press.) That show Terri looking completely devastated appeared that way because she either knew or suspected something about Kyron's disappearance and she is terrified to reveal anything she suspects or knows about because it involves someone close to her but not that she herself were involved?

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

✂ snipped ✂
I do not doubt it and here is why,
Terri is the one who was calling the shots.
If there were such bad relationship between her Husband and son, whcih I suspect there possibly were, then there were options other than to send her son away. She herself sent her son to live with the GrandParents. That says to me that she was attempting to alleviate the tension in the family without taking mroe extreme measures.
Here are a few other options:
Counseling, seperation, divorce.
imo

I am not so sure Terri was the one calling the shots. What makes you think she was?

Just curious where you get this

I don't think she was calling the shots either, she looks like a depressed and beaten down woman to me, IMO

What are you basing your thoughts on NRCG? The before or after pictures?
I am certain that issues with her Son may have caused her to be depressed to a point. I'm not so sure that she was quite so torn up prior to Kyle's disappearance. Do we have any real evidence to view or learn that would prove that was the case? Are there any pictures or statements from anyone close to her that would cause me to think as you do or?

I have based my thoughts on the Christmas pictures were Terri looked slim and happy, then son is gone, and six months later, little Kyron is gone, and I see a woman that has changed appearance drastically and not for the better.

The ones where she is lying down with a oh goodness what are those blanket thingys called? Anyways one of those things were completely covering her body. How could anyone know exactly what she looked like under her blanket?
She was def. smiling there. Are there any other more recent pics prior to Kyron's disappearance to go by?

[Tracygirl]

Good morning Monkey's,



How does a one join the "cadoodling" member club?

Do you summit an application?

Do you scan your body parts? LOL
The only way to find out about this club is try to join. LOL

OMGosh that is soo funny...

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

I think those blanket thingys are called Snuggies right? LOL!

[seahorse]

Good morning Monkey's,



How does a one join the "cadoodling" member club?

Do you summit an application?

Do you scan your body parts? LOL
The only way to find out about this club is try to join. LOL

OMGosh that is soo funny...

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2215167/best_swingers_clubs_in_portland_oregon.html


Best Swingers Clubs in Portland,
Ron Hart
 

Lifestyle Fun in Rose City
"The swingers' clubs in Portland, Oregon are among the best known in the nation"

Portland is a city that respects diversity and has very permissive attitudes when it comes to diversity and adult entertainment. Portland's strip joints, for example, are among the best in the country. Whether the general adult vibe in the city is either the cause of or a reflection of Portland's 'live and let live' attitude, the bottom line is that the city's swingers' clubs are the standard in the great Northwest.

The following are the three best swingers' clubs in Portland, Oregon.

Club Sesso
824 Southwest First Avenue
Portland, Oregon

Ron Jeremy, the renowned porn star known as 'The Hedgehog', owns this swingers' club in Portland. While at its heart, Club Sesso is a hard core swingers' club, it also appeals to the 'modern swinger'. Modern swingers tend to like clubs that are half sexy nightclubs and half lifestyle clubs.

Ron Jeremy obviously has far too much to put on the line to open a swingers club that is going to embarress him. Club Sesso certainly does not; it is a hot club, well run, with just the right amount of kinkiness and respectability mixed in.

ANGELS Social Club
3533 SE 39th Avenue
Portland, Oregon

Since 1993, when Angels Social Club was opened, Portland area swingers have been flocking to it. ANGELS has a reputation for a friendly crowd, a laid back but sexy vibe and their special them nights, which cater to the whole gamut of swingers.

From newbies to very soft swingers to hard core swingers, ANGELS hosts events appealing to them all. Couples and single women are always welcomed, and on select nights single men can attend as well, though for a higher price than the rest. ANGELS is a membership only lifestyle club. Instructions on how to apply for membership, and the associated cost, can be found on its website.

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Northwest Couples and BiFemales offers special swinger oriented events at various restaurants, pubs and hotels in the Portland area. The club describes its mission as to provide a 'platform' for swingers, or those curious about swinging, to meet other like minded invididuals for fun, friendship and perhaps more.

While Club Sesso is glitzy with a celebrity owner, and Angels Social Club's specialty is theme party nights, Northwest Couples and BiFemals is more of a grassroots goup that is as much matchmaker as it is party host.

So if live in the Portland, Oregon area, or are visiting, and are interested in participating in or observing swinging, there are three great clubs to visit and enjoy.
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ME: I am going to clear my mind now, LOL, goodness, it must be the cold air in Oregon.

[ospainter]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

[no rose colored glasses]

I go with my gut, that is all I ever do, and I see a depressed woman who has let herself go for whatever reason. I look at Kaine and see a control freak and don't like his vibes. Not scientific, just how I always do things. If I am wrong then I'm wrong, doesn't bother me to say I have made a mistake what so ever.

[no rose colored glasses]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Private-Search-for-Kyron-Horman/128715640499024?v=wall

Support Private Search for Kyron Horman  Announcement: Due to recent develepments and concerns, I am sorry to say that I can no longer continue in good faith to support this private search for Kyron.

OS

Very interesting, thank-you.