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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #3 7/5/10 - 7/8/10  (Read 208152 times)
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« Reply #420 on: July 06, 2010, 11:23:44 PM »

Thanks New Monkey

I don't get the feeling this guy is involved but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #421 on: July 06, 2010, 11:24:01 PM »

brandi i see it now, and man what could have changed her looks so
in 6 wks, she actually looks human,not robotic, stuned not sure

Personally, I think the photos of her since Kyron has been missing make her look so bad because she is trying to look worried, scared for Kyron. And she is not a very good actress. Just makes her look bad.

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« Reply #422 on: July 06, 2010, 11:25:54 PM »

Oregon State Archives/might come in handy
http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/banners/genealogy.htm
some of the tabs,at link
Find Trademark Labels
 
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Genealogy Records
 
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« Reply #423 on: July 06, 2010, 11:29:03 PM »

Looks like there was a domestic relations dissolution in September of 2007 in which he represented himself and also file bankruptcy at that time. 
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« Reply #424 on: July 06, 2010, 11:29:17 PM »

Janet,
Yep, when you first posted that, I figured the same.  And was also thinking no way would she have gone after the landscaper for sex, most likely the rest, if anything.  But who knows? 

Guess I was personalizing it cuz when I lived near Seattle with some friends, they have a landscaper for their 2 1/2 acre property.  He is from the Ukraine, and speaks like 3 words of English.  My friend always had to point to what she wanted done on the property, as well as whip out a calendar and point to when she wanted him to return, he would mark it on his own lil pocket calendar.  LOL  He was forever pointing to things.  And we'd say either: bad.. or.. good.  If it was 'bad', he was to get rid of it.  He would point and tell us what something was in Ukraine, and we'd point and tell him the word in English.  An interesting education.  But he was one danggggggg hard worker!!  Sunup to sundown, busy busy.  The other English word he learned well was 'sit'.  Because he worked so hard for so long we thought he would have a heart attack.  And wanted him to rest every so often.  lol

Many locals had landscapers/hardscapers, and none that we knew of spoke complete English.  But of course, there must be many who do. 
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« Reply #425 on: July 06, 2010, 11:34:13 PM »

Hi all.  There are so many "What If's" with this story.  I thought about Kyron all day today.  I keep thinking about the Landscaper story.  Wonder how he's feeling now?  Could he have mentioned the "hit story" to someone he knows and this person approached Terri?  She then decides not to off Kaine but to have him take Kyron and ask for Ransom $ that she'll later split with him?    Situation gets blown out of control and he now can't contact Terri so he's holding Kyron somewhere?  I just don't see a random kidnapping from school with all the stories we've been hearing about their marriage, etc.  I've also wondered about the story of Kaine and if he did have an affair?  If so, there could possibly be someone out there wanting retaliation.  I'd really like to see before and after pics of their home/yard. Let me know what you all think. 
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« Reply #426 on: July 06, 2010, 11:39:07 PM »

i cant find the post, someone mention that if, mom/SM harmed kyron
he would be close to home, i agree, hormans have 4.6+ acres, and
only a acre or so is used for living on and use, then the neighbors
property butts in to theirs at certain points
wonder if LE checked their property
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« Reply #427 on: July 06, 2010, 11:40:45 PM »

New Monkey ~

Thanks so much for doing this check on him.  I certainly am not saying he is 'involved'... am thinking it's only fair to look at any and all possibilities.  And checking for priors on folks who interact with family is usually what we do in other cases.  Thanks again! 


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« Reply #428 on: July 06, 2010, 11:42:23 PM »

New Monkey ~

Thanks so much for doing this check on him.  I certainly am not saying he is 'involved'... am thinking it's only fair to look at any and all possibilities.  And checking for priors on folks who interact with family is usually what we do in other cases.  Thanks again! 



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« Reply #429 on: July 06, 2010, 11:45:48 PM »

some thoughts/ and stuff ive been looking at
 
this guy sorta, http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8203.msg1174950#msg1174950

looks like this guy, http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-P-Harney/622533484

Oregon State Archives/might come in handy
http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/banners/genealogy.htm

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the RR tracks belong to UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD
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http://www.uprr.com/aboutup/maps/attachments/propmap3.pdf


not saying that jim kelley and ned are related,just looking
at other options, because the TH/SM senerio, is so hard to beleive
how do you reverse addy look up for where jim K lives, i want
 to try an find the neighbor that loosed her dogs

Kelley, Ned Lyle
Address: Homeless Se Side Hawthorne Brdg
Zip code: 97209
Crime: 1992-10-14 Wa-Felony
Sex: Male
Date of birth: 1952-11-12
Eye color: Green
Hair color: Brown
Height: 5'09
Weight: 170
Race: White
Conviction date: 1992-10-14
 
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Portland-Oregon.html#ixzz0srPhH1MS

http://sexoffenders.oregon.gov/SorPublic/Web.dll/main

http://www.city-data.com/so/Oregon.html

jim kelley
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/day_three_search_continues_hun.html

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« Reply #430 on: July 06, 2010, 11:47:36 PM »

Civil forcible entry August 2007 - Adam Farber  Birthdate in 1979

Where?
Portland, Oregon

He was in AZ in 2002.  I'm surprised how many people who are in OR have resided in AZ.  I don't know why, it just kind of surprises me.

Thanks.  Wonder if he's been married? 

People in AZ that don't like the heat may move up to Oregon where it's likely alot cooler and of course, very green and lush.

Klaas ... you got that right.

Until today the temperatures in Western British Columbia, Western Washington and Western Oregon have not been above 70 degrees F.  Lots of rain and cloudy weather has been where it is at.  However ... today is a scorcher.  I hate the heat but ... I better get used to it ... it is probably here to stay for the next couple of months.

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« Reply #431 on: July 07, 2010, 12:03:36 AM »

Do we have James Kelley's address?  I can find out his neighbors if I have his address.
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« Reply #432 on: July 07, 2010, 12:07:26 AM »

Janet,
Yep, when you first posted that, I figured the same.  And was also thinking no way would she have gone after the landscaper for sex, most likely the rest, if anything.  But who knows? 

Guess I was personalizing it cuz when I lived near Seattle with some friends, they have a landscaper for their 2 1/2 acre property.  He is from the Ukraine, and speaks like 3 words of English.  My friend always had to point to what she wanted done on the property, as well as whip out a calendar and point to when she wanted him to return, he would mark it on his own lil pocket calendar.  LOL  He was forever pointing to things.  And we'd say either: bad.. or.. good.  If it was 'bad', he was to get rid of it.  He would point and tell us what something was in Ukraine, and we'd point and tell him the word in English.  An interesting education.  But he was one danggggggg hard worker!!  Sunup to sundown, busy busy.  The other English word he learned well was 'sit'.  Because he worked so hard for so long we thought he would have a heart attack.  And wanted him to rest every so often.  lol

Many locals had landscapers/hardscapers, and none that we knew of spoke complete English.  But of course, there must be many who do. 


LOL

A funny story.  I am not a gardener by any stretch of the imagination but ... my Japanese hubby of almost 45 years loves it.  He does an excellent job of keeping up our property.  One day while he was working out in the yard ... a stranger parks his vehicle on the road and walks up our long driveway and ... comments on the beautiful landscaping and ... then proceeds to inquire how much hubby charges the owner of the property per hour.

When I called hubby in for lunch ... he was laughing so hard that tears were streaming down his face.  He could barely spit the story out.

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« Reply #433 on: July 07, 2010, 12:18:51 AM »

Janet,
Yep, when you first posted that, I figured the same.  And was also thinking no way would she have gone after the landscaper for sex, most likely the rest, if anything.  But who knows? 

Guess I was personalizing it cuz when I lived near Seattle with some friends, they have a landscaper for their 2 1/2 acre property.  He is from the Ukraine, and speaks like 3 words of English.  My friend always had to point to what she wanted done on the property, as well as whip out a calendar and point to when she wanted him to return, he would mark it on his own lil pocket calendar.  LOL  He was forever pointing to things.  And we'd say either: bad.. or.. good.  If it was 'bad', he was to get rid of it.  He would point and tell us what something was in Ukraine, and we'd point and tell him the word in English.  An interesting education.  But he was one danggggggg hard worker!!  Sunup to sundown, busy busy.  The other English word he learned well was 'sit'.  Because he worked so hard for so long we thought he would have a heart attack.  And wanted him to rest every so often.  lol

Many locals had landscapers/hardscapers, and none that we knew of spoke complete English.  But of course, there must be many who do. 


LOL

A funny story.  I am not a gardener by any stretch of the imagination but ... my Japanese hubby of almost 45 years loves it.  He does an excellent job of keeping up our property.  One day while he was working out in the yard ... a stranger parks his vehicle on the road and walks up our long driveway and ... comments on the beautiful landscaping and ... then proceeds to inquire how much hubby charges the owner of the property per hour.

When I called hubby in for lunch ... he was laughing so hard that tears were streaming down his face.  He could barely spit the story out.

Janet

LOL !!  Too funny! 

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« Reply #434 on: July 07, 2010, 12:19:35 AM »

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Terri Moulton Horman: Terriology
 Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 11:08pm
Let others know a little more about yourself, re-post this as your name followed by "ology".


***********FOODOLOGY******

What is your salad dressing of choice?
Ranch - and not the fat free!

What is your favorite sit-down restaurant?
Azteca - the chips are the best

What food could you eat every day for two weeks and not get sick of?
Fajita Chicken Salad from Red Robin

What are your pizza toppings of choice?
garlic chicken, mushrooms and black olives

What do you like to put on your toast?
cream cheese


***********TECHNOLOGY****

How many televisions are in your house?
None, nada, zip, zero

What color cell phone do you have?
red

Do you have an Ipod?
Yep

***************BIOLOGY****

Are you right-handed or left-handed?
right

Have you ever had anything removed from your body?
3rd vertebrae in my neck, shoulder bone

What is the last heavy item you lifted
40# dumbbells

Have you ever been knocked unconscious?
Yep - playing basketball

************DUMBOLOGY*****

How many pairs of flip flops do you own? how many colors are there?
none

Last time you had a run-in with the cops?
I think when we were avoiding them in Israel

Last person you talked to?
Kaine

Last person you hugged?
Kiara

**************FAVORITOLOGY

Season?
Spring

Holiday?
Thanksgiving for family get togethers and St. Patrick's Day so I can cook green things....especially cupcakes!

Day of the week?
Saturday

Month?
July

***********CURRENTOLOGY***

Missing someone?
always

Mood?
Good considering Kiara has 4 teeth coming in at once - ugh

What are you listening to?
fussy baby playing

Watching?
Paul Blart: Mall Cop on computer monitor - Kevin James rocks

Worrying about?
Getting a teaching job

***************RANDOMOLOGY

First place you went this morning?
Kitchen to make a bottle

What's the last movie you saw?
UP - good flick

Do you smile often?
I sure try to!

Sleeping Alone Tonight?
Probably 3 across the bed since Kiara is teething

***************OTHER-OLOGY

1) Do you always answer your phone?
yes, unless I can't hear it

2) It's four in the morning and you get a text message, who is it?
James if he's up or Shannon in Williamsburg, VA

3) If you could change your eye color what would it be?
violet - they are blue

3b) If you could change your hair color, what color would you change it to?
Black - I had a wig at Halloween and it looked pretty good - I didn't recognize myself.

4) What flavor do you add to your drink at Sonic?
Diet Cherry Limeaid

5) Do you own a digital camera?
yes

6) Have you ever had a pet fish?
yes

7) Favorite Christmas song(s)?
Silver Bells, White Christmas (Bing Crosby)

Cool What's on your wish list for your birthday?
The next one will be my 40th so hoping for a motorcycle

9) Can you do a chin up?
Maybe 2

10) Can you do pushups?
Easily

11) Does the future make you more nervous or excited?
both

12) Do you have any saved texts?
yes

13) Ever been in a car wreck?
yes - 1 this year, significant one in 1998 and in a truck roll in 1989

14) Do you have an accent?
Someone asked me if I was from the midwest once....what the heck?

15) What is the last song to make you cry
Nickleback video

16) Plans tonight
Working on Farm Town and playing a little World Of Warcraft....such the geek

17) Have you ever felt like you hit rock bottom?
Yes, July 13, 2005. Back on top again. Smile

18) Name 3 things you bought yesterday?
Baby food, hair conditioner at Tres Bon, ground turkey

19) Have you ever been given roses?
Yep - 3 dozen for Mother's Day even Smile

20) Current worry?
Doctor appt on Friday

21) Current hate right now?
That would be my ass...lol

22) Met someone who changed your life?
Yep

23) How did you bring in the New Year?
At our friends Randy and Wendy's house (They own Tres Bon Salon)

24) What song represents you?
Someone told me once: "Legs" by ZZ Top

25) Name 5 people you think will most likely answer this?
Stephanie, Julie, Geoff, Tina, Kammi..there are a few more. I'm always interested in what people have to say.

26) Would you go back in time if you were given the chance?
Absolutely

27) Have you ever dated someone longer than a year?
All my bf's were more than a year

28) Do you have any tattoos/piercings?
Just the ears - once - my mom even has 2 in each ear. She's more hip than I am.

29) Will you be in a relationship 4 months from now?
I would hope so

30) Does anyone love you?
yep

31) Would you be a pirate?
Only if I could look as good as Kiera Knightley

32) What songs do you sing in the shower?
Children's songs to keep Kiara happy.

33) Ever had someone sing to you?
I sure have

34) When did you last cry?
Yesterday

36) Do you like to cuddle?
At certain times - especially when I am afraid

37) Have you held hands with anyone today?
if patty cake counts, then yes.

38) Who was the last person you took a picture of?
Tina Merry and Kiara by the 'stang.

39) What kind of music did you listen to in elementary school?
Journey, Hall and Oats

40) Do you believe in staying close with your ex's/prospects?
no

41) Are most of the friends in your life new or old?
Both

42) Do you like pulpy orange juice?
Country style is the best

43) What is something your friends make fun of you for?
I'm very clutsy so yes.

44) If it were possible, would you want to know the day you were going to die?
Yes so I could make sure everyone else had what they needed from me.

45) If you could change your name, what would you change it to?
Tess

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« Reply #435 on: July 07, 2010, 12:34:09 AM »

Interesting, seeme!  thanks! 

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« Reply #436 on: July 07, 2010, 12:38:26 AM »

Interesting, seeme!  thanks! 



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« Reply #437 on: July 07, 2010, 01:07:32 AM »


IIRC, someone here was asking earlier how far the bus stop is from their house. 

It looks like the bus stops right in front of their driveway.  But they have a longgggg and winding gated driveway, dunno how far it is from the street to their house. 

According to the divorce papers, their address is:
15725 NW Sheltered Nook Rd

http://www.koinlocal6.com/media/lib/107/f/1/3/f137b0b7-d4e7-478f-b71d-875e04148787/SharpNews_koin_com_20100629_114449.pdf


And here's the bus stops for their street and times:

16230 NW SHELTERED NOOK RD     3:30 PM
15725 NW SHELTERED NOOK RD     3:31 PM

At the link, pick 'skyline' from the dropdown menu of schools:
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« Reply #438 on: July 07, 2010, 01:07:43 AM »

Can someone please post how LE tracked down this landscaper?

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I don't think anyone can post that for you Tracygirl because LE has not shared that peice of info.  I would think they have had multiple sources that have verified that info before they would have even gone to him to question him..he did not step forward..LE went to him.

Without other collaborating info the judge would not have issued the restrictive type of RO that was issued.

Thank you...no we don't know what happened and how they found him. The only thing we know is they tracked him down when looking at the people the family came into contact with. Was it the computer? Don't know. Was it a mutual friend? Don't know. We basically know this man has had some kind of contact with the family, not necessarily Terri btw. We don't know if Terri knew him, was stalked by him, was in-love with him, led him on, hated him, feared him, trusted him or if she approached him. All we have is this mans words and from what we can tell about him he is so slimy people ask him to kill for them, this by his own admission. Not the type of person I would believe right off. We also do not know if LE believed him or not. We don't know what else they know. I think there is a chance they believe this is the man responsible for Kyron being gone. 

I am not sold because LE told Kaine of the supposed plot they believed it or somehow knew this was the truth. Pretty sure it is within LE's job to notify a person of a supposed plot to murder you. given there is a little boy missing, erring on the side of caution might be wise.

This is what I think. I think this if this woman killed, sold, traded, gave up, left Kyron his little world was not only ended but as it ended his little heart probably broke into a million pieces thinking the woman he called mom could do that to hi. I don't want Terri to be guilty, not because I want to be right, I don't give a damn about being right, but because Kyron loved her. So I will pull apart everything that comes out. I will question it, I will think of alternate meanings for it. I am not on Terri's side, I am Kyrons side.
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« Reply #439 on: July 07, 2010, 01:16:25 AM »

O/T......Dont know if this has been posted or not.... four year old Alisa has been found....ALIVE!!!

Now....where is Kyron??????????
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