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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2010, 11:35:25 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

Kyron Horman's father recalls when marriage to Terri Horman began to sour
Published: Thursday, July 08, 2010, 7:59 PM     Updated: Thursday, July 08, 2010, 8:23 PM

The father of missing second-grader Kyron Horman said today that his marriage to the boy's stepmom began to grow rocky after she gave birth to their little girl 19 months ago.

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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2010, 11:38:21 PM »


If you haven't done so already, please light a candle for Kyron:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Kyron

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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2010, 11:40:04 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

Kyron Horman's father recalls when marriage to Terri Horman began to sour
Published: Thursday, July 08, 2010, 7:59 PM     Updated: Thursday, July 08, 2010, 8:23 PM

The father of missing second-grader Kyron Horman said today that his marriage to the boy's stepmom began to grow rocky after she gave birth to their little girl 19 months ago.

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During a car ride today a few miles from the elementary school where his 7-year-old son vanished on June 4, Horman said he agrees with detectives who have told him that the investigation into Kyron's disappearance will be a marathon rather than a sprint.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2010, 11:40:14 PM »


If you haven't done so already, please light a candle for Kyron:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Kyron

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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2010, 12:32:43 AM »

Peace -
I like the way you post, so I'd like to add my thoughts.

Terri hasn't been charged with anything.  If they had the goods, she'd have been charged by now.
The police aren't saying much because, IMO, they know they've screwed up the investigation.
The Lawn Man, it's just his supposed word against her word.  They cancel each other out without proof.  IMO
LE has said that they did investigate Kristian pertaining to this case.  He's already in jail, so if something's up, they aren't going to be in a hurry to charge him just yet. IMO
Kaine's mention of a "safe house" (good catch by the poster who made some very good points).
Desiree says Kyron is alive.  She's appealing to Terri and says to "do it for TH's kids)

I can envision  a scenario where TH believes either Kaine or Kristian have molested/or been "inappropriate" with Kyron.  She passes him on to a "safe house".  She can't pass a poly because she has guilty knowledge, but doesn't truly know where Kyron is.  LE can't charge her without proof, that's why there is no movement.  Kaine trumped up the RO (IMO) to make her look like she's a liar so that when she claims abuse, he can say "look, she's lying AGAIN".

I think that would tie up the ends for me and that may be a theory I could subscribe to.  Why did they hesitate at today's presser when asked if TH may have had an accomplice?  Maybe they suspect Tanner's  ex-stepmom but didn't want to say it?
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2010, 12:39:17 AM »

Marathon,sprint, fast jog - just bring him home! I want to be at the finish line with a big sign saying "Welcome Home!"  I can't give up, he is such an innocent little guy, so full of heart. As in most crazy, insane things jn my life, I'm preparing for the worst but praying for the best.

I think everyone failed h because they were too self- centered to ever have really had kids.  I'm fencing big time but I have my hate on for Kaine. He's too distant and remote. TH, IMVHO, is holding out. Someone made a good point earlier - she may as well to the end to say anything because doing anything de opens her up to more scrutiny and why do that, it's already bad.

That said:
@Muffy - well said. I'd pick you for my dodgeball team.
@klaas- you are awesome and your heart is solid. You are impossibly patient with us and for that, I'm grateful. Thank you for all your hard work.
@blink - thnx for all the insight
@rob - I sorry you had that weirdness happens but I applaud you for walking away. It's s lesson I hope to teach my son.
@wycks - you are so valuable, what with your regrettably intimate knowledge of these things. Thank you for all you can share
@peace - best wishes in school. Now finish up and get back here, we need you.

I know i'm missing others but the insomnia
meds are starting to kick in and this is long enough.

I wish Ky would just come home already.

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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2010, 12:51:29 AM »

Peace -
I like the way you post, so I'd like to add my thoughts.

Terri hasn't been charged with anything.  If they had the goods, she'd have been charged by now.
The police aren't saying much because, IMO, they know they've screwed up the investigation.
The Lawn Man, it's just his supposed word against her word.  They cancel each other out without proof.  IMO
LE has said that they did investigate Kristian pertaining to this case.  He's already in jail, so if something's up, they aren't going to be in a hurry to charge him just yet. IMO
Kaine's mention of a "safe house" (good catch by the poster who made some very good points).
Desiree says Kyron is alive.  She's appealing to Terri and says to "do it for TH's kids)

I can envision  a scenario where TH believes either Kaine or Kristian have molested/or been "inappropriate" with Kyron.  She passes him on to a "safe house".  She can't pass a poly because she has guilty knowledge, but doesn't truly know where Kyron is.  LE can't charge her without proof, that's why there is no movement.  Kaine trumped up the RO (IMO) to make her look like she's a liar so that when she claims abuse, he can say "look, she's lying AGAIN".

I think that would tie up the ends for me and that may be a theory I could subscribe to.  Why did they hesitate at today's presser when asked if TH may have had an accomplice?  Maybe they suspect Tanner's  ex-stepmom but didn't want to say it?

This makes a lot of sense. Perhaps Kaine is not showing too much emotion because he knows Kyron is alive and hidden, but does not know where. I would really really hate it if this little boys primary care giver did him harm. We have seen it before and I am tired of seeing it! I am still on the fence with regards to TH. It is more emotional than logical and I will admit to that. I do not have any kind of intuitive intuitions but I just think something is hinky about all of them, not just TH.
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2010, 12:53:42 AM »


Kaine Horman added that he was upset about Terri occupying the family home, thereby keeping him and his daughter out of it.

"Displacing a child for the comfort of an adult," Kaine Horman said today. "I think we all have our opinions on how appropriate that is."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

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Ummmm...

Somebody help me here, plz. 

Didn't Kaine make the move out of the home, supposedly on the advice/suggestion/approval/help of LE? 

And wasn't that done without Terri's knowledge until after the fact?  Yet SHE is keeping HIM out of their home?  Huh?? 

Couldn't he have just as easily, while gaining the exparte TRO have had it state that Terri was to leave the home, while LE stood by, waiting to escort her off the property?  (that's what a good majority of folks do, myself included, when ex-hubs was kicked to the curb.) 

Why didn't Kaine think of how 'appropriate' it was then, for the baby to be made to leave the comfort of her own home?

Does it seem to anyone else that Kaine is now blaming Terri for having 'displaced' him and the baby??? 

I am like WTH?? 

 
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2010, 01:02:37 AM »

Wyks - the way I see it Kaine had no idea that Terri had tried to hire someone to kill him.  I imagine the whole thing came as quite a shock.  That coupled with knowing that Terri had failed the first poly and LE telling them (Kaine and Kaira) that they suspected Terri was also responsible for Kyron missing and that they should distance themselves would be enough for me to move out as well.

Did LE tell Kaine to get out before they attempted the sting?  If LE told Kaine to leave what else could he do but leave?  Now he'd like to get back into his home with Kiara and of course, Terri needs to leave. 

I don't have a problem with this.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2010, 01:07:36 AM »


Kaine Horman added that he was upset about Terri occupying the family home, thereby keeping him and his daughter out of it.

"Displacing a child for the comfort of an adult," Kaine Horman said today. "I think we all have our opinions on how appropriate that is."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

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Ummmm...

Somebody help me here, plz. 

Didn't Kaine make the move out of the home, supposedly on the advice/suggestion/approval/help of LE? 

And wasn't that done without Terri's knowledge until after the fact?  Yet SHE is keeping HIM out of their home?  Huh?? 

Couldn't he have just as easily, while gaining the exparte TRO have had it state that Terri was to leave the home, while LE stood by, waiting to escort her off the property?  (that's what a good majority of folks do, myself included, when ex-hubs was kicked to the curb.) 

Why didn't Kaine think of how 'appropriate' it was then, for the baby to be made to leave the comfort of her own home?

Does it seem to anyone else that Kaine is now blaming Terri for having 'displaced' him and the baby??? 

I am like WTH?? 

 

I hear you Wyks! It is all just a bit too pat for Kaine in my opinion. Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't Kaine have an affair when he was married to Desiree and she was pregnant? Then he marries Terri and has a child. Now he supposedly is having yet another affair and she is pregnant? Women seem rather disposable to Kaine.
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2010, 01:08:48 AM »

Full press conference today with Kaine and Desiree:


http://www.kgw.com/news/Desiree-Young-on-Terri-Moulton-I-know-shes-lying-98075814.html

Desiree Young on Terri Moulton: 'I know she's lying'

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Updated today at 7:14 PM


PORTLAND -- Kyron Horman's parents held a candid and sometimes emotional press conference Thursday in which they said Terri Moulton is lying to investigators and flunked two polygraph tests.

"I've known her a long time," Desiree Young said, "I know she's lying."

She drove home the point, saying "mothers have instincts and unfortunately I had feelings about this when I got the phone call," about Kyron's disappearance.

When asked whether they thought who else might be involved in the disappearance, Kaine Horman and Young were quiet for a moment, looked at each other and then Kaine Horman said they did not want to speculate.

They did have more words for Terri Horman.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2010, 01:09:23 AM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/candlelight_vigil_for_kyron_ho.html#mode_smoref_twitt

Candlelight vigil for Kyron Horman planned for Friday evening at Skyline School
Published: Thursday, July 08, 2010, 9:50 PM     Updated: Thursday, July 08, 2010, 9:56 PM

A candlelight vigil for missing seven-year-old Kyron Horman will be held Friday evening at the school where he was last seen June 4.

The vigil will begin about 8 p.m. at the Wall of Hope for Kyron Horman -- a chain link fence turned memorial, covered with balloons and notes written to the missing second grader, in front of Skyline School, 11536 N.W. Skyline Blvd.

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2010, 01:10:01 AM »


Kaine Horman added that he was upset about Terri occupying the family home, thereby keeping him and his daughter out of it.

"Displacing a child for the comfort of an adult," Kaine Horman said today. "I think we all have our opinions on how appropriate that is."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

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Ummmm...

Somebody help me here, plz. 

Didn't Kaine make the move out of the home, supposedly on the advice/suggestion/approval/help of LE? 

And wasn't that done without Terri's knowledge until after the fact?  Yet SHE is keeping HIM out of their home?  Huh?? 

Couldn't he have just as easily, while gaining the exparte TRO have had it state that Terri was to leave the home, while LE stood by, waiting to escort her off the property?  (that's what a good majority of folks do, myself included, when ex-hubs was kicked to the curb.) 

Why didn't Kaine think of how 'appropriate' it was then, for the baby to be made to leave the comfort of her own home?

Does it seem to anyone else that Kaine is now blaming Terri for having 'displaced' him and the baby??? 

I am like WTH?? 

 

I hear you Wyks! It is all just a bit too pat for Kaine in my opinion. Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't Kaine have an affair when he was married to Desiree and she was pregnant? Then he marries Terri and has a child. Now he supposedly is having yet another affair and she is pregnant? Women seem rather disposable to Kaine.

This is yet another myth bandied about on this forum but not proven anywhere.
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Kaine Horman added that he was upset about Terri occupying the family home, thereby keeping him and his daughter out of it.

"Displacing a child for the comfort of an adult," Kaine Horman said today. "I think we all have our opinions on how appropriate that is."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

~~~

Ummmm...

Somebody help me here, plz. 

Didn't Kaine make the move out of the home, supposedly on the advice/suggestion/approval/help of LE? 

And wasn't that done without Terri's knowledge until after the fact?  Yet SHE is keeping HIM out of their home?  Huh?? 

Couldn't he have just as easily, while gaining the exparte TRO have had it state that Terri was to leave the home, while LE stood by, waiting to escort her off the property?  (that's what a good majority of folks do, myself included, when ex-hubs was kicked to the curb.) 

Why didn't Kaine think of how 'appropriate' it was then, for the baby to be made to leave the comfort of her own home?

Does it seem to anyone else that Kaine is now blaming Terri for having 'displaced' him and the baby??? 

I am like WTH?? 

 

I hear you Wyks! It is all just a bit too pat for Kaine in my opinion. Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't Kaine have an affair when he was married to Desiree and she was pregnant? Then he marries Terri and has a child. Now he supposedly is having yet another affair and she is pregnant? Women seem rather disposable to Kaine.

This is yet another myth bandied about on this forum but not proven anywhere.

Maybe TH or her attorney put it out there. Who knows with these players? I just do not trust any of them at this point and I don't know why.
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2010, 01:17:48 AM »

Watching the press conference tonight, I did not get the feeling that Kaine was controlling at all.  He does seem determined to find Kyron though as does Desiree.
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2010, 01:18:27 AM »

In my opinion and considering if my theory is correct and how knows if I am, they need to appeal to the maternal feelings she has for Kyron. They need to get to her by way of her heart. Standing up and talking badly about her will only close her off. Showing respect and acknowledgment for the role she has played in his life will go along way. ( I know, don't yell at me, she doesn't deserve respect.) I think these press conferences are doing more harm then good. imo

I also think Kaine needs to stop trying to gain approval from the public. We don't need to know their marriage went south after she gave birth to their daughter. I am not sure about anyone else, but reading that, as a woman makes me sort of think he should have been understanding considering she just had a baby. Kaine needs to stop talking and find his boy. Surely he must know who she knows, she was his wife.
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2010, 01:18:44 AM »

Wyks,


It's like the Anthony family.  They lost a granddaughter, but they make me so nauseated with their lying and their very existence that I don't have a single ounce of genuine sympathy for them.  They failed Caylee and they deserve every tear they cry because they are tears of self pity, IMO.  They have a sense of entitlement and feel like rules are for everyone but them.  IMO

I have a feeling Kaine is the same way.

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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2010, 01:22:39 AM »


Kaine Horman added that he was upset about Terri occupying the family home, thereby keeping him and his daughter out of it.

"Displacing a child for the comfort of an adult," Kaine Horman said today. "I think we all have our opinions on how appropriate that is."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

~~~

Ummmm...

Somebody help me here, plz. 

Didn't Kaine make the move out of the home, supposedly on the advice/suggestion/approval/help of LE? 

And wasn't that done without Terri's knowledge until after the fact?  Yet SHE is keeping HIM out of their home?  Huh?? 

Couldn't he have just as easily, while gaining the exparte TRO have had it state that Terri was to leave the home, while LE stood by, waiting to escort her off the property?  (that's what a good majority of folks do, myself included, when ex-hubs was kicked to the curb.) 

Why didn't Kaine think of how 'appropriate' it was then, for the baby to be made to leave the comfort of her own home?

Does it seem to anyone else that Kaine is now blaming Terri for having 'displaced' him and the baby??? 

I am like WTH?? 

 

I hear you Wyks! It is all just a bit too pat for Kaine in my opinion. Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't Kaine have an affair when he was married to Desiree and she was pregnant? Then he marries Terri and has a child. Now he supposedly is having yet another affair and she is pregnant? Women seem rather disposable to Kaine.
Kaine and Desiree separated when she was pregnant.
Kaine said his and TH's problems started after the birth of their baby.
Kaine is rumored to have gotten a girlfriend pregnant.

She'll last about a year or so then, if his track record stays the same.
Wonder what it is about him? 
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2010, 01:22:40 AM »

Wyks - the way I see it Kaine had no idea that Terri had tried to hire someone to kill him.  I imagine the whole thing came as quite a shock.  That coupled with knowing that Terri had failed the first poly and LE telling them (Kaine and Kaira) that they suspected Terri was also responsible for Kyron missing and that they should distance themselves would be enough for me to move out as well.

Did LE tell Kaine to get out before they attempted the sting?  If LE told Kaine to leave what else could he do but leave?  Now he'd like to get back into his home with Kiara and of course, Terri needs to leave. 

I don't have a problem with this.

Terri should leave the house and allow her daughter to be in comfortable surroundings right now.
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