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« Reply #180 on: August 05, 2010, 09:53:11 PM »


Good Evening San!I enjoyed your reply very much!
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« Reply #181 on: August 05, 2010, 09:56:05 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/20517-detencion-di-exploitante-di-foxy-lady-matthew-despues-di-entrada-hudicial.html

Detencion di exploitante di Foxy Lady (Alex Matthew) despues di entrada hudicial     Print      E-mail
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Den oragan di marduga RST ( Recherche Samenwerking Team ) y Team di Aresto tabata activo na varios adres relaciona cu e exploitante di e establicimento Foxy Lady. Na entre otro e cas, oficina y na Foxy Lady mes a hasi un entrada hudicial. Den esaki e persona cu ta exploita e negoshi di fam Matthew a keda deteni pa mas investigacion. Click lesa mas pa mas detayes. Update: Informacion cu nos a ricibi cu tin 3 detencion total. Den esaki un Agente Policial di inicial E. S. tambe a wordo deteni.
Henter e entrada hudicial aki y e detencion di Sr. Matthew tin di haber cu un sospecho fuerte basa riba e circumstancianan di trabou di e empleadonan cu ta traha na Foxy Lady. Foxy Lady ta un asina jama " Adul Entertainment Club". Den e club aki tin hende homber y hende muher cu ta baila (semi) sunu. Tin sospecho cu e empleadonan no ta trahando bou di circumstancianan regular. Aki ta papia di entre otro orarionan di trabou inhumano, salario no correcto y otro asuntonan no correcto pa cu un contrato laboral. E terminologia hulandes ta: "Uitbuiting".


Pa varios tempo caba tin indicacion di cosnan straño cu ta sosode den e bar aki. Ta referi na e trato cu e empleadonan di e bar ta ricibi di e gerente di operacion, esta Alexander Mattchew. Aunke e bar no ta riba su nomber, e ta e manehador di e negoshi. Tin indicacion cu e circumstancianan den e negoshi aki ta masha cuestionabel debi cu trahadornan por cuminsa traha eynan pero ta parse cu nan no por kita. Un ke otro a hiba autoridadnan pa drenta e establecimiento awe mainta y eydilanti a detene Alexander Matthew. Despues a bay detene e agente di polis di Elton Joshua Sanchez. Un rato despues e conocido security guard Michael Livingstone a bin entrega su mes na Warda di Polis. Parse cu a usa Arestatie Team den e detencionnan debi cu mayoria di e sospechosonan ta conoci di husticia y lo por resisti nan detencion. Alexander Mattchew net tabata subiendo su auto y a hay'e cu hopi placa den su poder. E investigacion awor lo continua pa saca afor kico exactamente ta e negoshi cu ta tumando lugar den Foxy Lady.
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« Reply #182 on: August 05, 2010, 09:56:40 PM »

I was once told by a very wise person.Keep doin what your doin,and you'll keep getting what your gettin!JMOO
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« Reply #183 on: August 05, 2010, 10:01:54 PM »

Keepthefaith, wreck, klaasend and 28 Guests

Klaas pulls em in,or was it Wreck? Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #184 on: August 05, 2010, 10:02:58 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_76250.php

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« Reply #185 on: August 05, 2010, 10:05:41 PM »

They're all dirtbags 
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« Reply #186 on: August 05, 2010, 10:10:46 PM »

They're all dirtbags 

I'm wondering if the raid and arrests had more to do with kickback money not paid rather than the working conditions of the employees.   
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« Reply #187 on: August 05, 2010, 10:15:39 PM »

They're all dirtbags 

I'm wondering if the raid and arrests had more to do with kickback money not paid rather than the working conditions of the employees.   

I think you're too smart for your own good Muffy!
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« Reply #188 on: August 05, 2010, 10:18:11 PM »

They're all dirtbags 

I'm wondering if the raid and arrests had more to do with kickback money not paid rather than the working conditions of the employees.   

I think you're too smart for your own good Muffy!

Bringing the media along for the "Perp walk".Letting everyone know what happens when you don't pay your kickbacks!ArubaJustice at it's best...
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« Reply #189 on: August 05, 2010, 10:24:02 PM »

I love that it says Ben King was discredited by the Natalee Holloway case. Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #190 on: August 05, 2010, 10:29:28 PM »

By the way, a little birdie told me that JEN has had a baby boy as of yesterday at 2am!  All are doing well!

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« Reply #191 on: August 05, 2010, 10:42:35 PM »

They're all dirtbags 
 

I think MuffyBee's on the mark...it's about the $$$$.
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« Reply #192 on: August 05, 2010, 11:47:15 PM »

By the way, a little birdie told me that JEN has had a baby boy as of yesterday at 2am!  All are doing well!
WOW, if you mean last night at 2am, than she did have it on my birthday, August 5th. Thanks God it wasn't on the 6th like Joran's is!
Congrats, Jen and Family. I am certain this gift from Heaven will make your lives a sheer joy.
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« Reply #193 on: August 05, 2010, 11:50:15 PM »

Happy B-day, Misgivings.  8/5 is also one of my close friend's b-day, too.

  
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« Reply #194 on: August 05, 2010, 11:52:07 PM »

Happy B-day, Misgivings.  8/5 is also one of my close friend's b-day, too.

  
Thanks. It has been a day from Hell. Hearing about Jen's new baby was the hightlight!
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« Reply #195 on: August 05, 2010, 11:57:37 PM »

Jug Twitty - February 15, 2008

"Beth has a ton of speaking engagements. You know, she travels across the country. And she`ll continue to do that. And I hate it for the Aruban people because they`re going to hear this every time she speaks to the high schools and the colleges in the civic organizations out there. It`s just going to be, you know, over and over again what happened down there."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/15/ng.01.html


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« Reply #196 on: August 06, 2010, 12:07:55 AM »

This is Alex Matthew's place - Foxy Lady

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4075&offId=0&offDate=2010-8

AUTORIDADNAN DI RECHERCHE SAMENWERKINGS TEAM., TEAM DI ARRESTO COMO TAMBE TEAM BIJZONDERE PROJECTEN REFORZA CU VARIOS POLIS A SUBI CAYA FOR DI ORANAN DI MADRUGA Y TA AINDA RIBA PIA CU UN INVESTIGACION BASTANTE GRANDI UNDA DETENCION A CAY

AUTORIDADNAN DI RECHERCHE SAMENWERKINGS TEAM., TEAM DI ARRESTO COMO TAMBE TEAM BIJZONDERE PROJECTEN REFORZA CU VARIOS POLIS A SUBI CAYA FOR DI ORANAN DI MADRUGA Y TA AINDA RIBA PIA CU UN INVESTIGACION BASTANTE GRANDI UNDA DETENCION A CAY

Den un esfuerzo combina, a haci varios entrada hudicial

Tur esaki relaciona cu esclavitud moderno y traficacion di hende

Ministerio Publico mes no kier duna mucho informacion di e accion combina di diahuebs mainta, cu a tuma lugar rond Aruba. Pasobra e investigacion no ta termina, pero t’e momento a yega, pa haci algun entrada hudicial, pa haya mas prueba contra di loke ta ser investiga di loke por ser denomina como esclavitud moderno y traficacion di hende.

Ta for di algun tempo caba, Ministerio Publico ta haciendo un investigacion riguroso y pisa di actividadnan cu ta tuma lugar e.o. den Foxy Lady Nightclub na San Nicolas.

Esnan cu ta frecuenta San Nicolas y ta gusta bishita e establecimento aki, ta bon na altura cu den Foxy Lady Nightclub, fuera di ta dedica na prostitucion, ta laga e damanan y hasta homber, baila riba bar, practicamente sunu y tin nada hasta sunu, pa satisface nan clientela.

Ta resultando awor, cu aparentemente e personanan aki ta ser droga pa haci actonan cu por ta nan mes no ta consciente di loke nan ta haciendo. Si nan nenga, nan lo ta wordo bati y ordena pa haci loke e “amonan” kier. Ta ser bisa, cu tin hasta practica di sex publico den e negoshi, entre homber cu muher, pero tambe di muher cu muher, y homber cu homber, haciendo uso di diferente artefacto cu ta ser usa den tipo di practicanan aki, pa satisface nan respectivo partner.

E practicanan aki a yega na orea di Ministerio Publico y tumando na consideracion cu ta sospecha hasta cu tin polis envolvi, a laga RST y Landsrecherche pa haci e investigacion y no a pone den man di Cuerpo di Recherche, p’e investigacion no lek.

Diahuebs den prome oranan di madruga, a cuminsa na haci un entrada hudicial na Foxy Lady na San Nicolas, unda nos por a mira presencia di miembronan di Ministerio Publico, hunto cu personal di otro departamentonan di husticia, e.o. di Douane cu un cacho pa hole droga, etc., Nan a keda te den oranan di merdia ta investiga. Ora cu nan a caba, nan a claba e portanan sera, di manera cu ningun hende por drenta pa “tapa” mas prueba cu por tin.

A drenta den un cas na Camay, Noord, y tambe un oficina na Palm Beach.

Maske for di Ministerio Publico, nan no kier duna mucho informacion, nos sa cu a detene sigur Edwardo ”Alex” Matthew y su señora, como tambe Michael Levestone kendenan ta operadornan di Foxy Lady Nightclub y ta propietarionan di e negoshi.

Tin mas hende cu a keda deteni, e.o. un polis di fam S. cu ta traha como security , pero manera menciona, nos no por haya confirmacion di OM ainda.

Alex Matthew no ta un persona desconoci, pasobra den pasado e tabata encarcela, y a hunga un cantidad di comedia, te a hiba su problema internacionalmente, acusando autoridadnan local di abuso di derecho humano.

Masha yamativo di e caso aki ta, cu dia 2 di april 2009, tabata Prome Minister di e tempo ey, Nel Oduber a haci apertura di Foxy Lady.

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Comunicado di Ministerio Publico:

Huiszoeking- y detencionnan relaciona cu investigacion mensenhandel

Bao guia di Ministerio Publico di Aruba, Seccion di Crimen Organiza di Cuerpo Policial di Aruba y Recherche Samenwerkingsteam (RST) a investiga un organizacion criminal cu ta wordo sospecha di mensenhandel. E investigacion aki a start algun tempo pasa.

Despues di algun luna di investigacion preparativo, huiszoekingan a tuma lugar na varios locacion riba diahuebs 5 di augustus 2010.

E investigacion tabata dirigi riba e club nocturno Foxy Lady na San Nicolas. E club nocturno aki a wordo listra riba diahuebs 5 di augustus. A tuma placa, cosnan y un auto den beslag.

Mientrastanto a detene cuatro sospechoso mayor di edad. No ta exclui mas detencion.

E investigacion di mensenhandel lo sigui y lo ta dirigi riba e formanan di extorsion di bailarinanan den e club en cuestion. E investigacion a cuminza relaciona cu kehonan serio tocante e circumstancianan di trabao di e bailarinanan.

Ademas lo tuma lugar un investigacion financiero.

Combati e delito mensenhandel ta un prioridad di Ministerio Publico y ta pas den e maneho regional cu Ministerio Publico di Aruba y e otro paisnan den Reino Hulandes ta hiba conhuntamente.



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autoridadnan by recherche samenwerkings team., team by arresto because also team bijzondere projecten reforza cu several police owing to ascend caya for by oranan by madruga y is still on leg cu one investigacion enough big where detencion owing to cay autoridadnan by recherche samenwerkings team., team by arresto because also team bijzondere projecten reforza cu several police owing to ascend caya for by oranan by madruga y is still on leg cu one investigacion enough big where detencion owing to cay in one esfuerzo combina, owing to haci several entrance hudicial all this relaciona cu esclavitud modern y traficacion by person ministerio publico self does not give mucho informacion by the accion combina by diahuebs morning, cu did take lugar rond aruba. because the investigacion do not termina, but t’e instant owing to arrive, before haci some entrance hudicial, before attain more proof contra by thing is being investiga by thing can being denomina because esclavitud modern y traficacion by person. is for by some time come to anend, ministerio publico is haciendo one investigacion riguroso y pisa by actividadnan cu is take lugar the.o. in foxy lady nightclub at san nicolas. esnan cu is frecuenta san nicolas y likes visit the establecimento here, is good at altitude cu in foxy lady nightclub, fuera by is dedica at prostitucion, is allow the damanan y even man, dance on bar, practicamente sunu y have nothing even sunu, before satisface they clientela. is resultando at present, cu apparently the personanan here is being drugs before haci actonan cu can is they self do not consciente by thing they're haciendo. if they deny, they will is wordo beat y ordena before haci thing the “amonan” be willing to. is being say, cu have even practica by sex publico in the business, among man cu muher, but also by muher cu muher, y man cu man, haciendo usage by various artefacto cu is being using in type by practicanan here, before satisface they respectivo partner. the practicanan here owing to arrive at ear by ministerio publico y tumando at consideracion cu is sospecha even cu have police envolvi, owing to allow rst y landsrecherche before haci the investigacion y not owing to laydown in hand by cuerpo by recherche, p’e investigacion not lick. diahuebs in first oranan by madruga, owing to cuminsa at haci one entrance hudicial at foxy lady at san nicolas, where we can owing to see presencia by miembronan by ministerio publico, together cu personal by another departamentonan by husticia, the.o. by douane cu one cacho before give off an odour drugs, etc., they owing to remain till in oranan by afternoon is investiga. hour cu they owing to come to anend, they owing to claba the portanan close, by manner cu neither person can come into before “tapa” more proof cu can have. owing to come into in one cas at camay, north, y also one office at palm beach. although for by ministerio publico, they does not give mucho informacion, we know cu owing to detene assure edwardo ”alex” matthew y her lady, because also michael levestone kendenan is operadornan by foxy lady nightclub y is propietarionan by the business. have more person cu owing to remain deteni, the.o. one police by surname s. cu is work because security come across, but manner menciona, we not can attain confirmacion by om still. alex matthew do not one person desconoci, because in pasado the was encarcela, y owing to play one cantidad by comedia, till owing to bring her problem internacionalmente, acusando autoridadnan local by abuse by derecho human. very yamativo by the caso here is, cu day 2 by april 2009, was first minister by the time ey, nel oduber owing to haci aperture by foxy lady. update comunicado by ministerio publico: huiszoeking- y detencionnan relaciona cu investigacion mensenhandel bao guia by ministerio publico by aruba, seccion by crimen organiza by cuerpo policial by aruba y recherche samenwerkingsteam (rst) owing to investiga one organizacion criminal cu is wordo sospecha by mensenhandel. the investigacion here owing to start some time happen. after by some moon by investigacion preparativo, huiszoekingan did take lugar at several locacion on diahuebs 5 by august 2010. the investigacion was dirigi on the club nocturno foxy lady at san nicolas. the club nocturno here owing to wordo listra on diahuebs 5 by august. did take coin, cosnan y one car in beslag. all the time owing to detene cuatro sospechoso parent by edad. do not exclui more detencion. the investigacion by mensenhandel will follow y will is dirigi on the formanan by extorsion by bailarinanan in the club provided that cuestion. the investigacion owing to cuminza relaciona cu kehonan earnest tocante the circumstancianan by trabao by the bailarinanan. besides will take lugar one investigacion financiero. combati the delito mensenhandel is one prioridad by ministerio publico y is peace in the maneho regional cu ministerio publico by aruba y the another paisnan in kingdom dutch is bring conhuntamente. come across


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My buddy Alex Mathew has been arrested in Aruba... By RST...sniffer dog, car impounded and houses searched as well as the Foxy Lady. They said something about him paying low wages! Wink

This is the Link ******* posted with some pics and Pearl posted a couple more in the Showdown thread at BFN.

http://www.awe24.com/?mai...ffId=0&offDate=2010-8



Thanks Klaas, very interesting!   

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owing to haci several entrance hudicial all this relaciona cu esclavitud modern y traficacion by person

esclavitud, spanish translation = slavery

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because the investigacion do not termina, but t’e instant owing to arrive, before haci some entrance hudicial, before attain more proof contra by thing is being investiga by thing can being denomina because esclavitud modern y traficacion by person.

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cu apparently the personanan here is being drugs before haci actonan cu can is they self do not consciente by thing they're haciendo. if they deny, they will is wordo beat y ordena before haci thing the “amonan” be willing to. is being say, cu have even practica by sex publico in the business, among man cu muher, but also by muher cu muher, y man cu man, haciendo usage by various artefacto cu is being using in type by practicanan here, before satisface they respectivo partner. the practicanan here owing to arrive at ear by ministerio publico y tumando at consideracion cu is sospecha even cu have police envolvi, owing to allow rst y landsrecherche before haci the investigacion y not owing to laydown in hand by cuerpo by recherche, p’e investigacion not lick.

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owing to come into in one cas at camay, north, y also one office at palm beach.

Wasn't the Purcell house that is for sale on Camay?

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huiszoeking- y detencionnan relaciona cu investigacion mensenhandel bao guia by ministerio publico by aruba, seccion by crimen organiza by cuerpo policial by aruba y recherche samenwerkingsteam (rst) owing to investiga one organizacion criminal cu is wordo sospecha by mensenhandel.

mensenhandel, dutch translation = trafficking

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club nocturno

I'm wondering if the club nocturno is the foxy lady club or another club.

I remember that club (nocturno) being mentioned in the comments to the articles (the 24ora links don't work now! ) about the cop Robert Kock that was arrested late last year...for falsifying a police report, and RAPE.

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2064&offId=0&offDate=2009-11

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6268.msg1008034#msg1008034

UPDATE:

http://www.24ora.com/content/blogcategory/6/8/



Papiamentu translation:

acolyte of cuerpo policial r.p.kock owing to wordo deteni

saturday, 07 november 2009 - 16:27 departamento of investigacionnan inner of cuerpo policial (bizo), bow guia of ministerio publico, owing to detene bigadier eerste klasse r.p.k.,cu is work at keep of oranjestad.e is being sospecha the.o. of owing to comete amenza, y place falsedad on paper. owing to base of the acusacionnan contra his person owing to dicidi for detene pendiente the result of the investigacion.

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12/3/2009 Awe Mainta Page 3

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Papiamentu translation:

fiscal owing to ask for his prolongacion, but huez comisario owing to achieve cu not have proof convicente for follow detene agent policial r.p. kock

in the caso of the agent policial r.p. kock, “cliente” of advocate mr. demis g. illes, advocate at buffete of abogadonan kock & wix owing to comenta on the ultimo desaroyonan encuanto the police, r.p. kock.

fiscal owing to ask one prolongación of his detención, already cu the is achieve this necesario for can sigi cu the investigación. t’asina cu fiscal is sospecha cu the agent policial, will owing to comete three delito, the.o. menasa y falsificacion of documento.

the agent r.p. kock self is deny rotundamente of owing to comete algún delito. this is reflehando his self also in the proof cu have on table is aworaki. p’e motibo here, then cu not have mucho proof, or as proof minimal, huez comisario is achieve cu n’e instant here the equilibrium have to wing at please of cliente of buffete of advocate kock & wix.

then just because not have sufficient indicación cu the agent policial, r.p, kock will owing to comete algún delito, huez comisario not owing to honor the petición of fiscal for prolonga his detención.

this sinembargo not kiermen cu the caso owing to end. time will show cu if will come more proof owing to base of cual r.p, kock will can wordo deteni one bez more. all the time the is pound, entrante today, según advocate demis g. illes.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_65918.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Agent at liberty

December 3, 2009, 12:37 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The rape suspect agent RP Kock was at liberty. The judge has the custody of the agent suspended so he is not lower in the cell have to stay. The prosecution wanted to hold down even longer agent under investigation. Kock is in addition to rape, threats and also suspected of forgery. For this he was arrested in early November.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #197 on: August 06, 2010, 12:09:46 AM »

I guess Club Nocturno could just simply mean nightclub?  And maybe it's not the same one?   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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No Body...No Tourism aruba! Bring Natalee Home!


« Reply #198 on: August 06, 2010, 01:56:16 AM »

Justice for Natalee and Stephany......
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« Reply #199 on: August 06, 2010, 03:05:33 AM »

JEN, Congratulations on the birth of your Son!

 

I'm so happy for you and yours, Jen!  Congratulations!

 




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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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