Natalee Case Discussion #844 7/31/10 - 8/29/2010

[klaasend]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/20569-sextasy-no-ta-asocia-den-ningun-forma-cu-foxy-lady.html

Something about a tie between Foxy Lady and Sextacy?

Sextasy no ta asocia den ningun forma cu Foxy Lady      Print      E-mail
Friday, 06 August 2010 17:15
sextasy_logo
Diaranson marduga Arrestatie Team tabata activo na diferente adres relaciona cu e investigacion di asuntonan no legal cu lo ta tumando lugar na Foxy Lady. Un di e lugarnan cu a drenta tabata parti ariba di un centro comercial den Noord unda cu e establicimento Sextasy ta situa.
Aki nan tabata enbusca di e oficina di e sospechoso Mattew. Den algun medio di prensa a publica cu nan lo a drenta e establicimento Sextasy. Esaki ta incorrecto mirando cu nan a drenta na e di dos piso buscando e oficina di Foxy Lady.

Donjo di Sextasy kier a enfatisa cu e compania Sextasy no ta asocia den ningun forma cu Foxy Lady y ta lamenta cu kier purba di relacione cu e caso di Foxy Lady. Locual sigur tambe ta inacceptabel ta e hecho cu Sextasy hunto cu un otro establicimento tambe tin nan oficina na e di dos piso y arrestatie team pa equibocacion a kibra den nan oficina.

[klaasend]

Is this the missing girl?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4083&offId=0&offDate=2010-8

TA SER BUSCA E HOBENCITA AKI SI BOSO MIRE OF SA DI SU PARADERO YAMA POLIS MESORA, ELA SALI BAY Y NO SA MAS DI DJE

Through translator:

is being busca the hobencita here if your mire or know by her paradero be called police at once, ela depart bay y not know more by dje

[sandy leiva]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/20569-sextasy-no-ta-asocia-den-ningun-forma-cu-foxy-lady.html

Something about a tie between Foxy Lady and Sextacy?

Sextasy no ta asocia den ningun forma cu Foxy Lady      Print      E-mail
Friday, 06 August 2010 17:15
sextasy_logo
Diaranson marduga Arrestatie Team tabata activo na diferente adres relaciona cu e investigacion di asuntonan no legal cu lo ta tumando lugar na Foxy Lady. Un di e lugarnan cu a drenta tabata parti ariba di un centro comercial den Noord unda cu e establicimento Sextasy ta situa.
Aki nan tabata enbusca di e oficina di e sospechoso Mattew. Den algun medio di prensa a publica cu nan lo a drenta e establicimento Sextasy. Esaki ta incorrecto mirando cu nan a drenta na e di dos piso buscando e oficina di Foxy Lady.

Donjo di Sextasy kier a enfatisa cu e compania Sextasy no ta asocia den ningun forma cu Foxy Lady y ta lamenta cu kier purba di relacione cu e caso di Foxy Lady. Locual sigur tambe ta inacceptabel ta e hecho cu Sextasy hunto cu un otro establicimento tambe tin nan oficina na e di dos piso y arrestatie team pa equibocacion a kibra den nan oficina.

   

no ist part says arresting teams were busy searching in differant areas in relation to information gatherings while looking for offices of the suspect Matthew.Press erroneously published that sextacy buissness was located on the same area as the offices of foxy-lady.

second paragraph says sextasy which caters to fantasys is in no way associated with the case of foxy lady and they regret the errors printedit also says they regret that due to erroneous info the arresting team broke into the wrong offices that they believed belonged to foxy lady.


keystone cops!  what else do we see from aruba..
K;ass did you see last post on previous page i did on missing girl 15 yrs old since monday. sl

[sandy leiva]

Is this the missing girl?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4083&offId=0&offDate=2010-8

TA SER BUSCA E HOBENCITA AKI SI BOSO MIRE OF SA DI SU PARADERO YAMA POLIS MESORA, ELA SALI BAY Y NO SA MAS DI DJE

Through translator:

is being busca the hobencita here if your mire or know by her paradero be called police at once, ela depart bay y not know more by dje




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Boy your fast klass yes thats the one small blurb todays paper 15 yr old missing since monday after last being seen sunbathing at beach. no name given ,any info call police.  thanks sl

[klaasend]

Yeah been trying to find name.  She looks like an Aruban but I suppose could be a tourist.

[sandy leiva]

Yeah been trying to find name.  She looks like an Aruban but I suppose could be a tourist.

yes unable to find name gonna check out diarios paper. sl

[Puzzler]

Thanks all.  Hubby brought in the laptop for a minute.  Just wanted to log in and say hi.

Born Aug 4, 2:26 am.
7.1 lbs
19.8 inches

Perfectly healthy.  Gorgeous.  My little precious angel boy.

Congratulations, Jen.  I'm so happy for you!

[Buckeye]

Is this the missing girl?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4083&offId=0&offDate=2010-8

TA SER BUSCA E HOBENCITA AKI SI BOSO MIRE OF SA DI SU PARADERO YAMA POLIS MESORA, ELA SALI BAY Y NO SA MAS DI DJE

Through translator:

is being busca the hobencita here if your mire or know by her paradero be called police at once, ela depart bay y not know more by dje




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Boy your fast klass yes thats the one small blurb todays paper 15 yr old missing since monday after last being seen sunbathing at beach. no name given ,any info call police.  thanks sl

Di parti cuerpo policial ta pidi coperacion na comunidad pa un buskeda di un damita.
Yama bou nomber Ghislaine S.G.Dirksz naci na Aruba 23 Januari 1995 cual ta biba na Noord. E ta di haltura 1.60 M color di cuero Bruin.  Esnan cu por sa paradero di e damita aki por yama 100 of asina Gabriel Leo 5923214

http://www.boletinextra.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2873:buskeda-di-ghislaine-dirksz-15-ana&catid=31:local&Itemid=70

[sharon]

TM  My memory is fading....but iirc, the Terra del Sol possibility was from a psychic? Something to do with Terra del Sol and Baby Beach? She got very chilling feelings of Natalee when she walked thru those areas? Heard cries?

I can't remember which newspaper published it -- I remember the picture of the area. I thought I had saved it but of course can't find it.

And of course -- I can be remembering totally wrong -- or maybe even combining a few of the 'stories' that were circulating 


BIG HUGS TO jen, Mr jen and Baby jen 



AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!

[Buckeye]

Joran's June 9, 2005 statement:

...I started stroking her breasts with my right hand. Natalee was wearing a bra. I did not put my hand into her bra. Natalee had normal size breasts. Beyond the Marriot Hotel and into the direction of Tierra del Sol I had fingered Natalee.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=160.0

[Anna]

Good Morning, Monkeys!

Alex Matthews must be a total dope and glutton for punishment to get arrested in Aruba again after his last experience in jail.  Of course he did win that lawsuit in ICC but doubt it was worth that small amount.

This guy just can't seem to stay out of jail no matter what.

Also, anyone remember the location of the house Joran supposedly told JQK Natalee was in or buried under?

Hope all have a wonderful Saturday.

[MisGivings]

I wonder who is maintaining this page?;
http://joranvandersloot.spaces.live.com/default.aspx

[2NJSons_Mom]

[Red]

An Inconvenient Truth: Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven Making Movie about Joran Van der Sloot and Death & Disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/08/07/an-inconvenient-truth-dutch-filmmaker-paul-ruven-making-movie-about-joran-van-der-sloot-and-death-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway-in-aruba/

An ‘”Inconvenient Truth” for Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven … Joran Van der Sloot killed again!

Now, comes Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven who claims he is making a film about the Natalee Holloway case as he searches for the truth. Really? The film claims to hold no punches on any of the individuals involved including Joran Van der Sloot, Aruban police, government or the victims family. One does have to question why any one would take the approach of smearing the Holloway family as a way of so-called finding the truth as to what happened.

[Keepthefaith]

They're all MISCREANTS!

[Magnolia]

An Inconvenient Truth: Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven Making Movie about Joran Van der Sloot and Death & Disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/08/07/an-inconvenient-truth-dutch-filmmaker-paul-ruven-making-movie-about-joran-van-der-sloot-and-death-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway-in-aruba/

An ‘”Inconvenient Truth” for Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven … Joran Van der Sloot killed again!

Now, comes Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven who claims he is making a film about the Natalee Holloway case as he searches for the truth. Really? The film claims to hold no punches on any of the individuals involved including Joran Van der Sloot, Aruban police, government or the victims family. One does have to question why any one would take the approach of smearing the Holloway family as a way of so-called finding the truth as to what happened.

It is just a continuation of Renee Gielen's lies.   She is involved in this up to the eyeballs.

[MisGivings]

An Inconvenient Truth: Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven Making Movie about Joran Van der Sloot and Death & Disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/08/07/an-inconvenient-truth-dutch-filmmaker-paul-ruven-making-movie-about-joran-van-der-sloot-and-death-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway-in-aruba/

An ‘”Inconvenient Truth” for Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven … Joran Van der Sloot killed again!

Now, comes Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven who claims he is making a film about the Natalee Holloway case as he searches for the truth. Really? The film claims to hold no punches on any of the individuals involved including Joran Van der Sloot, Aruban police, government or the victims family. One does have to question why any one would take the approach of smearing the Holloway family as a way of so-called finding the truth as to what happened.

Secrets Can Be Murder: The Killer Next Door, Volume 2007
 By Jane Velez-Mitchell, Nancy Grace

http://books.google.com/books?id=FmE-enPSdxsC&pg=PT307&lpg=PT307&dq=joran+van+der+sloot&source=bl&ots=xJMOpyMBh2&sig=BNYMkArAVP-6QsO6Y5OUgrA8e60&hl=en&ei=ww5dTLSdPMP68AachemzDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CC4Q6AEwBzjCAw#v=onepage&q=joran%20van%20der%20sloot&f=false

[RoxiBalboa]

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Explosive-quotes-from-van-der-Sloot-Holloway/71IaWjwk4kKiTm5qjuS_Aw.cspx

Explosive quotes from van der Sloot / Holloway movie maker

Birmingham, Al (WIAT) A Dutch article about a movie on the Holloway case has provoked bitter online commentary.

Things have been quiet on the Joran van der Sloot front lately.

There’s been next to no news out of Peru as the murder inquiry grinds through a legal system with no guarantee of a speedy trial.

Van der Sloot remains in the Castro Castro prison charged with murdering 21 year old student Stephany Flores in a case with spooky parallels to the disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway on a graduation trip to Aruba.

Holloway, last seen with van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers, vanished five years to the day Flores’ body was found in van der Sloot’s Lima hotel room.

But while van der Sloot’s charges of legal misrepresentation and a coerced confession fade from the headlines, a firestorm of online commentary has broken out over a movie being produced by Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven.

In another strange coincidence, Ruven was on Aruba making a fictionalized film about van der Sloot and the Holloway case when the news of Flores death broke.

After a several days flurry of stories about Ruven and his film “Me and Mr. Jones” things got quiet again until Myrtille van Bommel’s article quoting Ruven about his project. Although Ruven has been accused of being part of a whitewash on Aruban handling of the Natalee investigation, the picture painted in van Bommel’s article is very different.

In the article on the Radio Netherlands Worldwide site, Ruven appears to take on all parties in the case. Regarding van der Sloot, he’s quoted as saying “"The film pulls no punches in showing that Joran lied. That's why the main character, the investigative journalist, breaks the law to get at the truth. He, just like Joran, doesn't abide by the law."

But Natalee and the Holloway family are blasted as well. He says the image of her as some kind of holy virgin, an innocent girl, is just the way her mother wants her portrayed.

And although there have been allegations Ruven is part of a cover up/whitewash attempt to improve the image of tourist dependent Aruba, the island takes some hits in the article as well. Everybody on the island knows each other. When there are elections, the candidates are often sponsored by US hotel owners. The winning candidate appoints his entire family and distant friends to important governmental positions. These people hang on to the posts for the rest of their lives."
The article goes on to say that “It's this colonial background of favourism and conflict of interests that allows a young rich Dutchman to do what he likes without being brought to justice. Mr Ruven believes nobody on Aruba wants the truth to come out. It was also never the intention that Joran should end up in prison. That would damage tourism and the economy.”
Sounds like he’s out to offend all involved…..but that’s nothing compared to the online comments van Bommel’s article has spawned.

Here’s a quick sample…and remember, anyone with a keyboard can say pretty much anything on line so supply your own perspective and skepticism:

Miranda and Jeff from Amsterdam weigh in with a lengthy denunciation of the entire Holloway family linking extensively to a documentary Natalee Holloway ''The Unrevealed Timelines'' and ending with this plea: “We believe in karma Mr. Ruven , so please go ahead and give us the real Natalee Holloway and not the BS her mother tried to feed us, it will benefit you and your movie. Thank you for reading this email."
Whereupon the firefight ensues. Marie chimes in with “I see the Van der Sloots have marshaled their family members to join in on the discussion!” Only to be gently rebuked by Bippity for giving Miranda and Jeff to much credit.

Bippity goes on to say “Mr. Ruven believed the lies about Natalee -- that's his bad. He should have demanded proof or at least questioned how something like that could be covered up for five years. But despite having ridiculous "sources" of info, shown by his false portrayal of Natalee, he still concluded Joran is guilty and Aruban authorities covered it up; just as they always had; because he was rich, white and Dutch.”

There’s lots more on the RNW website.

[klaasend]

I wonder who is maintaining this page?;
http://joranvandersloot.spaces.live.com/default.aspx

Nobody for a long time.  It is Joran's page but everything on it is old.

[Tamikosmom]

THE PERSISTENCE BETRAYAL

Natalee Holloway's Stepfather

Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she's alive or dead.  We want to bring her back to the United States, and they can do whatever they want to do.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551824/


Natalee Holloway's Mother

We cannot forget to demand and expect to have Natalee. Natalee deserves to return to her country. She deserves it, and everyone knows it, every single person. Every single person knows that. They know it.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485029/


Natalee Holloway's Uncle
 
If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg372245;topicseen#msg372245


Natalee Holloway's Uncle
 
Sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750

 
Natalee Holloway's Uncle
 
I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

 
Natalee Holloway's Uncle
 
Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

 
Natalee Holloway's Uncle
 
I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435