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« Reply #300 on: August 09, 2010, 03:46:13 PM »

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« Reply #301 on: August 09, 2010, 04:34:23 PM »

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Do you know who posted the April 16th, 2006 at 8:57 pm post?


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« Reply #302 on: August 09, 2010, 05:06:34 PM »

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Kermit - it looks like an email conversation between Rob and the Aru-bay guy Ed Smith.  I actually have copies of all that from back in 2006 and some stuff from 2005. 

We are going back the the rocks and the videos shot and the one video marked as NATALEE MOVIE 3 which is private on the aru-bay site.  All that information went to the FBI back in 2005.

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« Reply #303 on: August 09, 2010, 05:24:49 PM »

No Doubts ... June 24, 2005

Beth Twitty:  I think I have made it clear that I have some pretty strong feelings, from the moment I arrived on this island, 11:00 p.m. on May the 30th. In addition to that, May 31st, in the early morning hours between 1:00 and 4:00 a.m., I had even stronger feelings.

I know — I know — he has some information. It was confirmed to me during that visit at his home.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160612,00.html


Considering lies are created to cover the truth ... Beth Holloway had no doubts from the getgo that deception was where it was at regarding what happened to her precious daughter.

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THE LIES

May 30, 2005

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Page 30:  The students say Natalee got into a silver or gray Honda with a young man who had befriended some of her classmates.  One of Jug’s nephews, Thomas, says he actually met the guy Natalee was seen leaving Carlos ‘n Charlie’s with.  Thomas says this young man’s name is “Gerran or Juran or something like that.”  The last information communicated from the students before they board their plane is that this Joran guy is a tourist from Holland.  And he is staying at the Holiday Inn

Page 39:  Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the front desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.   He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."  I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.  It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied to them.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.


May 31, 2005

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Page 45:  At Noord it takes almost half an hour to get uniformed officers to accompany us to the van der Sloot home.

The officers sound their horns and sirens for about five minutes before a man answers the door.  He is Joran’s father, Paulus van der Sloot.  He has his cell phone in his hand.  The police ask to see Joran.  Paulus responds that he isn’t home and calls his son to find out where he is.  He tells the police that Joran says he is in a poker tournament at the back of the casino at the Wyndham Hotel.

Page 48:  Joran and Deepak have supposedly returned from a night of gambling at the Wyndham.  It’s about three o’clock in the morning.  It’s a school night.  They aren’t dressed as if they have been to a casino.  They are in grubby T-shirts and shorts.  I make a mental note that I will ask to see the casino footage from the Wyndham later on.  Just to see if they were really there tonight or, rather, this morning.

Page 121:  And finally we learn from the Wyndham Hotel manager that Joran and Deepak do not appear on their security videos at the time the two claimed to be at the poker tournament there – the same time we were stand in the van der Sloots’ front yard in the wee hours of May, 30.
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« Reply #304 on: August 09, 2010, 05:29:56 PM »

such a parasite, sort of reminds you of that vander sloot goon.

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« Reply #305 on: August 09, 2010, 05:37:48 PM »

It appears that the following is the production The Other Side of the Natalee Holloway Story.  I could be wrong.

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natalee holloway 'a different story' part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb4XwnKV1q4&feature=related

natalee holloway 'a different story' part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lOtbxk9JDw&feature=related

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THE OTHER SIDE OF THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE - THE PREVIEW

JULY 3, 2007
The other side of the Holloway-case
Police Aruba hindered by FBI’
By Michael Willemse


WILLEMSTAD/ORANJESTAD – The American Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has systematically hindered the work of the police and the judiciary on Aruba in the investigation of the missing student Natalee Holloway. Especially when it came to investigating her direct relatives, mother Beth, stepfather George ‘Jug’ Twitty – who apparently has direct or indirect contacts and influence reaching as far as the White House- but also when it came to investigating the more than 120 fellow students and the chaperones who accompanied them in their trip to Aruba .

“You do your own dirty work”, is what was said to former police commissioner Gerold Dompig in charge of the Holloway investigation by a high ranking FBI staff member.

“Myself and also the field officer of the justice department on Aruba (at that time the European-Dutch Karin Janssen ) not only had to deal with the enormous pressure from the FBI, who arrived on the island in no time, but we were also obstructed and even threatened.”

VIDEO TAPE

So says Dompig on video, who after a lot of insisting was convinced to do so without his person appearing on screen. His voice is recognizable and he mentions his own name on several occasions.

The Amigoe was the first to see the material, which the makers expect will portray a different angle of the case to the world – especially with the American people- a case which in the last two years has been covered by tv-giants like CNN and Fox News, and broadcasted daily in the living rooms and offices in the United States and the rest of the world.

Dompig, who up until May 2006 – when he resigned – led the investigation on Aruba, and three others, who from the start each had their own function after the then 18-year-old girl from the prestigious Mountain Brook at Birmingham , Alabama , did not return to her hotel room on the 30th of May 2005 , are now speaking up. They each feel the importance of sharing this side of the story. Perhaps even the story; the truth. A story where three boys – Joran van der Sloot (at that time aged 17), Deepak Kalpoe (21) and his 18 year old brother Satish (formally still suspects), hardly play a role in anymore.

That story is told to tv-producer Renée Gielen (known for his three documentaries about the Bon Futuro prison on Curaçao) and camera man Dolph van Stapele, who from the start had his suspicions about the case and consequently flew to neighbouring eiland Aruba on several occasions, in search of the truth. Until they managed to make certain persons talk, who’ve been able to shed a different light on what could possibly be the most talked about disappearance ever.

MEDPLANE

They revealed that already one day after Holloway was declared missing, a medplane (medical plane or ambulance-plane) from the US arrived on Reina Beatrix airport and was stationed for a few days in the area of the airport where private jets park. Nothing strange about that on the surface, except that the crew (two pilots, a doctor and a nurse) knew nothing about why they were there. Gielen and Van Stapele also discovered that the plane landed without authorization and was also not registered by the Aruban authorities, while the mysterious landing – even though it was reported to the police in an official unsigned written testimony –was subjugated by the corps to the investigation only months later. This is also the case for other testimonies.

SECRET EXIT

The ambulance plane needed to be used as a secret exit for Natalee to the US . Secret, for the local authorities weren’t allowed to get wind of this – if they succeeded in ‘liberating’ the girl from a drug warehouse in Oranjestad and secretly leave the island.

Angela Dilorenzo, an American living on Aruba and close the Natalee’s family in those first days, talks about the special task she was given by Beth Twitty, Natalee’s mother: “Please do me a favor, after you find Natalee, please cover her up and bring her to the medjet. We’ll take good care of you and they are already awaiting her at the airport.” Angela, who’s married to a restaurant owner on the island, has her voice recorded on the video, but does not appear on screen.

Does Beth then know that her daughter is still (alive) on the island, after she declared to the whole world that the three local boys have done all sorts of things to Natalee and possibly even killed her? Or was the latter merely a ploy to cover up what really happened? Why on the second day of the disappearance is Beth already hanging posters all over Aruba which state that her daughter has been ‘kidnapped’? After which on the same day of the disappearance – also peculiar – when the co-students had only arrived back in Alabama just a few hours, she steps out of a private jet in Aruba with pre-printed flyers under her arm containing a local mobile number, and immediately starts handing them out to the airport personnel? Does Beth know something the rest at that time didn’t know and still don’t know? Angela: “I’m almost convinced that Beth knew where Natalee was from the start.”

She and another American on the island, Julia Renfro, who has also been living on Aruba for years and works as the editor in chief for the English daily paper Aruba Today, have been involved in the case from day one. Natalee’s mother asks Renfro on the 31st of May to help her find her daughter. During the course of several weeks Renfro becomes one of Beth’s confidants and together with Angela one of Natalee’s ‘angels’. Two years after the disappearance of Natalee, Renfro now also tells her story about the side the world doesn’t know.

TELEPHONE CALL

The material shows that Renfro and Angela talk about a phone call which they received from an unknown woman on the 2nd of June 2005 . She knows where Natalee is at the moment, that she’s still alive, but doesn’t want to go back to her mother Beth. For the measly sum of 4000 dollars the caller will say where. But to the complete surprise of Renfro and Angela, Beth did not want to really go in on that and afterwards, after insisting, she was willing to pay no more than 1000 dollars for the release of her own daughter. While the day after they were planning to announce a reward of 10.000 dollars – a sum which will eventually increase to more than one hundred fold.

When Angela declares that she will pay the demanded tip sum out of the cashier of her own restaurant and look for Holloway herself, Beth drops to her knees and says the following. Namely that the girl should be in disguise so that no one will recognize her and brought to the awaiting ambulance plane. “So that she could leave immediately and not have to be questioned by the authorities, the police and certainly not admitted to the Aruban hospital system”, Renfro adds.

But before Angela and Renfro arrive at the drug warehouse, Beth’s careless and especially loud – ‘I’ll burn this place and island down’ – former husband Jug Twitty (in the meantime Beth has now also divorced Jug) had already been there; except for a lot of uproar and panic in the direct vicinity, he achieved nothing. But more importantly, according to both women Jug is responsible for the failure of the ‘rescue operation’ and that Natalee- of which really nothing more has been learned, not even indirectly – still remains and will remain untraceable.

ALBERTO G.

Once again the unauthorized medplane departs to the US, after the crew members have been too clamorous and light about their unknown mission at the bar of the hotel where Natalee had stayed and where now also her relatives and traveling companions sleep for free – the Holiday Inn – they were subsequently fired upon their return. So manager/employee Alberto G. – another person which the tv-producers portrayed (incognito) – of the private airport heard shortly afterwards from one of the crew members of another medplane. Alberto is coincidentally, as he is one of the first who they come into contact with, also the one who guided Beth and Jug around the island. Alberto asks one of the travel companions how they actually plan to get the kidnapped daughter on board the private plane- “If she was supposedly kidnapped, she does not have a passport”, and thus will not be able to pass through immigration – to which the person which sent the plane to Aruba answers: “Do not worry about that. That will be all handled.” The plane which was sent to fetch Natalee, was instructed by the owner of the company leasing private jets, G.Ruffner Page Jr. Page also arranged the private jet which brought Natalee’s mother and her companions to Aruba shortly after the disappearance.

JORAN

If the person who made the phone call with the tip, really knows where Natalee is at the moment, then it would naturally give a different turn to the up until now known facts and this would vindicate Joran van der Sloot, at least of the ‘burden’ which he carries of being the last one who saw her. But this and other peculiarities in any case shed new light into the matter. Not in the least the lies about the three boys, Aruba and the police and justice system on the island , which Beth according to journalist Renfro kept on spreading to all the large American tv-networks who massively tore them apart. So she claims during interviews that at least one of the three raped her daughter and that this information is based on police statements; however she never shows these statements and later on both her Aruban lawyer and head of police Dompig deny the existence of such statements. Another good example is the manipulation of a tape on which Deepak Kalpoe was asked if Holloway had sex with all three to which he replied ‘ No, she didn’t’, while the America popular tv-show Dr.Phil shamelessly turned this into ‘She did’, as was scientifically revealed by the Dutch Forensic Institute.

For months Aruba is world news, but the hospitable population suffers from the constant stream of insults about incompetencies and corruption of the law. It even goes further when the family Twitty calls upon all American tourists to boycott the island, an action which got the open support of governor Bob Riley of Alabama .

Renfro concludes: “The family did not want the truth to be told.”

In the meantime donations are streaming in for the family, out of sympathy for the victims. According to Renfro the donations amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars. The biological father of Natalee – Dave Holloway- doesn’t receive one cent, according to Renfro, but he’s the one who’s searching high and low for his daughter without having dozens of paid cameras on his back.

ENORMOUS PRESSURE

Speaking of the accusations of incompetency. Never before has the Aruban police corps worked under so much international interest. Never before has the pressure been so big. Never before has the interest been so wide. But also, never before has the job of the police and the judiciary been made so difficult (not to mention, impossible). Ex-commissioner Dompig explains that in every country in the world, also and especially in the US , in cases of disappearance the investigators first look at the direct environment of the missing person: the relatives. “Out of respect we did not do that in the first instance.” Dompig continues: “For this wasn’t a normal missing- persons case on Aruba . No, it concerned a high profile missing case which America talked to the Netherlands about on a top level.” So we got a phone call from the Dutch Minister of Justice (Piet Hein Donner, CDA) with the order to: “Take everything out of the shelf”. The Netherlands even sent F16’s with very expensive equipment to make photos of every square meter of Aruba . “We understood more and more that it wasn’t about Natalee Holloway, but about the relationship Kingdom of the Netherlands and the US . This reached as far as the inner circle of the White House in Washington. Reaching Vice-President Dick Cheney. He’s the clue.”

STEPFATHER

Renfro also mentions in front of the camera that the highest American institutions and members of government were involved in the case: “The day after she disappeared the chief protocol got a telephone call from Mrs. Condoleeza Rice, asking him to ask our Prime Minister to put this case at the highest priority.”

But except for the hot breath of the FBI in their neck, the local authorities got frustrated in their work, especially when wanting to know more about stepfather Jug, the extremely wealthy president of Phoenix Metals which also does business with Latin-America. In an investigative case in which money possibly plays an important role, it’s important to also look at the financial picture, explains Dompig with his voice on tape. However it soon becomes apparent that he can forget that thought. “You do your own dirty work”, is what Dompig is told upon telling the FBI-attaché his intention of investigating the stepfather. Dompig: “If that’s dirty work, then it raises a few questions.” But that’s not all. According to the police officer, there is talk of a direct ‘threat’ by the consul-general of the US in the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba . Bob Sorenson is stationed in Willemstad , Curaçao and has naturally taken an interest in the case.

It comes down to that up until now this side of the story, at least as long as Dompig has been at the corps, has never been investigated. As is the case with the co-students and their chaperones, who on the planned day simply returned back home. Only after a lot of insistence did the Aruban authorities get the opportunity to ‘interrogate’ a couple of people. This had to be done in writing on half an A4, whereby the Aruban police was thus not permitted to directly interrogate them and whereby they thus had ample time to think of meaningless answers.

The makers of the images believe their recordings can show that what actually happened, is very different than what up until now has been shown, especially by the American media. In any case they want to open a window about the work ethics of the American federal police, who in no single way have shown their full hearted cooperation to investigate all possible scenarios and to really try and solve the mystery. In contrary, they believe that a lot points to a conspiracy. That it isn’t about Natalee Holloway, but about a lot, a lot of money. That she has become the victim of a case which through circumstances took a different turn than was planned.

NOT ON FBI LIST

The issue in any case raises an incredible amount of questions even after two years to date. That Natalee is not on the FBI’s missing people list, says a lot. And that for one of the perhaps most famous missing student of the world. In the US alone, there are 750.000 reports of missing people each year.

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« Reply #306 on: August 09, 2010, 05:43:37 PM »

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« Reply #307 on: August 09, 2010, 11:12:27 PM »

Loving Natalee – Beth Holloway

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: My child. My beautiful daughter. I can’t save her. It’s too late. Natalee is gone. And second to the great tragedy of losing her is if we fail to learn from what has happened.

I could be any parent in the world. And no parent should ever go through this experience. Natalee could be anyone’s daughter. And in these thoughts a new path is made clear. There is something I can do. Many people reached out to us, and I can now reach back to them. It might be too late to save Natalee, but it’s not too late to save others. And it’s time now to make good on my pledge to stand before high-school and college students, law enforcement professinals, victims’ rights groups, travelers of all ages, and anyone interested in personal safety to share Natalee’s story and our hard lessons, so that others might learn from them.

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« Reply #308 on: August 09, 2010, 11:44:45 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_76393.php

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Reported trafficking from Ukraine

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The House of Detention on Bonaire where Mathew is currently being detained.

ORANGE CITY - Message from 'Ukrainian corner' Foxy Lady strip club on the Trafficking Coordination of the National Police (Police Agency) in the Netherlands, has also led to the arrest of owner Alex Mathew.

This is the Public Prosecutor (OM) to request this morning told the newspaper. "We received indications from the Netherlands that Foxy Lady would have to do with human beings," said the prosecutor in charge of this case. According to the officer there are no immediate reports on Aruba have. Well, there were indirect indications that the club is indeed involved in human trafficking would be. Further investigation revealed that several police officers and staff KIA "friendly contacts" with Mathew maintained. About the nature of these contacts is not yet published. Nevertheless, the OM stress that "no evidence of corruption." "With whom officers or prison guards in their spare time, establish friendships that up to them," the case officer. Despite being only "marginalized", wants the OM or investigate the nature of these contacts. As a precaution to avoid problems and Mathew was flown to Bonaire where he currently resides in prison, pending the further course of the investigation. Not only because of the "friendly contacts" but also because of the aggressive history of Mathew. He was previously convicted of violent crimes in 2001 and spent the interim director Ben King KIA serious bodily injury. "He obviously has problems with Aruban authorities for his bad decisions," said Jaap Zondervan officer.
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« Reply #309 on: August 09, 2010, 11:52:38 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_76390.php

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ARUBA

Two tourists drown one day

August 9, 2010, 1:56 p.m. (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - On the southwest coast of Aruba on Sunday two people drowned. Half a mile south of Casa Del Mar was yesterday afternoon the floating body of the tourist Juan Villada Jorge Restrepo (41) found. Not much later, at three hours in the afternoon was a 83-year-old American tourist from the sea at the Westin hotel met. The elderly woman Grace Griffin Berg was successfully resuscitated, but died later in hospital.

According to police spokesman John Larmonie says that the presence of lifeguards could make a difference in this and other cases. At the same time he is reluctant to be. "Later it goes wrong and the hotels and the country held liable."

End of July, 1924 Aruban certified lifeguards. None of them is now in session. Jesus Cardoso, President of the Aruba Hotel Security Foundation (AHSF) co-financed by the course, explains why. "There is a chance that hotels be held liable should it go wrong. It will therefore be found where a legal structure to protect the hotels. "Another problem is lack of money. AHSF namely to establish such a separate organization than the use of lifeguards will govern. This requires more funds to be recruited, says Cardoso. He says the two drowning cases regrettable. Not long ago there were in his way even lifeguards by the popular beach resorts were watching. The reason why these are no longer there, do not Cardoso.

Whether this year more people have drowned, is otherwise known. Both police, Horacio Oduber Hospital and the 911 emergency center this morning this newspaper could not produce figures. Hospital spokesman Bob Harms: "The hospital is the number of not drowning. Who do not not go to the emergency, but directly to the morgue. "Also the alarm can not immediately say how many drownings have occurred. Both they and the hospital by referring to the police. But they could not discuss recent figures. 
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« Reply #310 on: August 10, 2010, 12:00:30 AM »

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"Legal proceedings in danger because of illegal investigative methods"

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ORANGE CITY - The Dutch lawyer Gerard Spong predicts that "short-term major criminal cases will collapse 'in Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles. This is because there is still a gap in the legislation on the islands and therefore the use of special investigative means are not is provided.

This can be found in the NRC Handelsblad today. Amigoe has published several stories about this gap in the legislation. Last Saturday, this newspaper wrote about the use of such weather burgerinfiltranten by the Aruban justice. In a lawsuit against one of these burgerinfiltranten, the Public Prosecutor (OM) already inadmissible. Legislation for the detection methods, known as BOB-law, late in coming years. Similarly in the Antilles, although here the OM advises that the law on the neighboring island these days is treated by the parliament. In Aruba is not yet ready, the bill is now at Department of Legislative Response to the Minister of Justice on the advice of the Advisory Board.

The use of yet legally regulated screening methods in the Netherlands now has the attention. Judges, bound by rulings of the European Court of Human Rights, consider increasing the special investigative methods such as surveillance, infiltration or wiretapping must not be used without adequate legislation, said Spong in NRC. According to the Dutch lawyer does justice to major investigations minimal use of special investigative means to prevent them by the court declared inadmissible or that evidence is invalidated. That the "illegal investigative methods, however, still be used, it was clear last week in the reporting of Amigoe. In an interview with this newspaper, Chief Peter Blanken also means that detection is used. They are not deployed, he assures, to "conclusive evidence" or to get "bogged down due to an investigation."

Ybo Buruma, criminal law scholar and professor at Radboud University Nijmegen, also as expected Spong current criminal problems. The NRC says it: "The tapping of phones, the use of systematic observation burgerinfiltranten or resources to intervene heavily in the privacy of citizens, even if they are suspects. It may, under certain conditions, but it is clear that there is a sound legal basis should be. "
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« Reply #311 on: August 10, 2010, 12:11:09 AM »

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Several citizens deployed for criminal infiltration

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ORANJESTAD – Despite the fact that Justice still denies it had deployed citizen infiltrators illegally, it now appears from two recent court cases that citizens most certainly were actively deployed to round up drug gangs or drug smuggles in particular. In one case, Justice had even given a citizen counterfeit money to arrange a drug deal.

The deployment of citizen infiltrators is prohibited in Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles and currently still controversial in the Netherlands. During the IRT-affaire in the nineties in the Netherlands, Ministers had resigned and high police officials were dismissed because citizen infiltrators amongst others had been deployed. The Netherlands has now regulated the use of this kind of undercover techniques by law, but the deployment of citizen infiltrators is undesired. In certain cases, it is also prohibited. These techniques are not regulated on Aruba yet via the so-called BOB-law.

Nevertheless, the Aruban Justice has deployed citizens for infiltration as appears from the court case on which this newspaper had already reported earlier this week. In this case, the judge had declared the Public Prosecutor (OM) inadmissible and the suspected citizen was released. The judge stated that Justice had namely made serious tracking mistakes, as the citizen had assumed the role of infiltrator with knowledge of the Criminal Information Service (CID).

Counterfeit dollars
Both the OM and CID continue to deny they deploy citizens as infiltrators. However, during the session (behind closed doors) one admitted that the citizen had received 40,000 dollars to arrange a drug deal with Columbians. This had occurred in 2006. A co-worker form the CID had namely declared before the judge last year that this money had indeed been handed to the citizen. However, the drug deal did not go through because the Columbians had already sold the drugs. The citizen had then returned the money to the CID, whereby the latter informed him that it had regarded counterfeit dollars. The citizen himself declared the CID had not informed him beforehand of such.

From the statement of that same CID co-worker, it furthermore appears that this person had also ordered the citizen in question to obtain information on persons involved with criminal organizations. Also from this, it appears that the citizen in question was no longer an informant, but an infiltrator. After all, an informant is someone who gives information to Justice voluntarily, without an order to do so. Moreover, an informant may not act against the law.

Justice thus persists – also after the judge’s verdict and the seven sessions in which the court case was handled – that the citizen in question was not an infiltrator. Moreover, the OM will appeal to a higher court. According to field officer Peter Blanken, the story of this citizen “is absolutely not correct’. In an interview with the Amigoe this past week, he said that the OM had lost the case in first instance because the ‘information provision to the judge’ had possibly been insufficient.

Life in danger
For that matter, legislation – that should make the use of citizen infiltrators on Aruba possible – is still being drawn up. According to Blanken, the lack of this legislation is only a ‘formal’ matter because the Aruban Attorney General already issued a guideline. “Everything is actually already arranged. Moreover, what we do is already common practice in the Netherlands. As purist, one could say that such is not regulated by law, but the fact is that it is regulated.”

However, the citizen infiltrator states he fears for his life because his identity has meanwhile been leaked due to negligent action from the police and the OM. Due to this, the criminal circuit has threatened him several times.

For that matter, this citizen is not the only one who was used as infiltrator. In a different recent court case, another person also declared to have been a citizen infiltrator for the CID. Also she states Justice does not protect her identity and she fears for her life. According to both citizens, who had no police record before the court cases, Justice is trying to conceal in all kinds of ways that they most certainly were deployed to expose criminals. Thus subsequently leaving them to fend for themselves.
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« Reply #314 on: August 10, 2010, 01:19:20 AM »

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2

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http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/05/06/aruban-justice-6-years-is-the-punishment-in-aruba-for-the-mutilation-and-burning-of-pit-bulls-body/

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Amigoe, May 6, 2007: Six years for mutilation of body 

ORANJESTAD – In the court of appeals, the joint Court of Justice convicted Sijgmund Heyliger (37) to six years imprisonment.  Heyliger appealed his five-year imprisonment verdict for his involvement in the mutilation and burning of Dinesh Djoegan’s body, too high.  The attorney general has demanded 7 years. 

The heavy mutilated body of Djoegan’s was found near the Guadirikiri cave in April of last year.  At first, the police thought that he was murdered, but investigation revealed that the 25-year old Djoegan died from overdoses of drugs.     

Michael Levenstone, Kim Prins and her husband Heyliger, all three also involved with drugs, decided to make the body disappear.  In December of last year, the Court of First Instance imposed light punishments: 2.5 years imprisonment for Prins (the OM demanded 5) and 2.5 years for Levenstone (OM demanded 6).  Both accepted their punishment.  While the OM had demanded 8 years for Heyliger, he was sentenced to 5, and he appealed this.

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« Reply #315 on: August 10, 2010, 01:31:42 AM »

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Papiamentu translation:

alex mathew bring yesterday morning gaol at bonaire

saturday, 07 august 2010

oranjestad – below ; escolta by arestatie team, alex mathew y michael levenstone owing to wordo bring edificio by corte caminda they owing to present fast fiscal y after judge comisario. manner is conoci, ordinarily fiscal is prolonga the detencion cu 8 day y judge comisario only is evalua if the detencion did take lugar corecto y the prolongacion is wordo honor.

do not confia mathew close at aruba

sinembargo, yesterday had one desaroyo not accustomed. is so cu the fiscal encarga cu the caso, owing to present serca judge comisario cu one peticion before not allow alex mathew remain close neither at wardanan by police y niether in kia at aruba but before mand’e in gaol at bonaire.
investigacion cu redactor by casonan by corte owing to haci is indicate cu fiscal her preocupacion is cu alex mathew have quite amistad cu quite agent by police y also quite by the cuidadornan by preso. besides fiscal is considera alex mathew one person extremely dangerous. is just pesey owing to haci usage by arestatie team not only before come into foxy lady but also before bring mathew y levenstone corte.

escolta by arestatie team

redactor by casonan by corte can owing to compronde cu miembronan by arestatie team owing to haci usage by two vehiculo caminda they had tanto levenstone because mathew cu cara tapa, hands geboei. the miembronan by arestatie team had they helmnan dress y caranan tapa. this is the procedura normal cu miembronan by arestatie team is bring, hour is deal by personanan cu is wordo considera dangerous. tanto mathew because levenstone is conoci by police y they owing to happen enough year close in kia before delitonan earnest cu they owing to haci.

mathew close at bonaire

is so cu yesterday morning self, judge comisario owing to honor the peticion by fiscal y miembronan by arestatie team owing to percura before bring alex mathew aeropuerto y after hib’e bonaire, caminda past owing to wordo bring at the gaol. come across
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« Reply #316 on: August 10, 2010, 02:09:06 AM »

Maybe the L. de Andrade?

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We won't give up...
Natalee and Stephany,
We want JUSTICE!


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« Reply #319 on: August 10, 2010, 05:55:36 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_76435.php

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"Mathew will return to Aruba"

August 10, 2010, 13:11 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The new lawyer Alex Mathew, Edwin Duijneveld, truss lawsuit against the Public Prosecutor (OM). He wants his client, who is suspected of trafficking, is brought back to Aruba.

The prosecution wanted nothing to say about this morning the interim, said a spokesman at the newspaper. "That's the lawyer. But it is a possibility that is always open for suspects. "
Because the suspect known as "aggressive to Aruban authorities' and numerous contacts with the police and prison guards of KIA, flew over the OM Mathew precaution to Bonaire. Since he is in the House of Detention. He must soon for the judge appear on any extension of the remand to decide. This is the suspect in any case back to Aruba, according to the OM.

Duijneveld Sunday brought a visit to Mathews in the House of Detention on Bonaire. He then spoke with his client about the case. Duijneveld does not understand why Mathew has been to Bonaire. "In a small society like that of Aruba has almost everyone has one or a few friends at the police. It is also not matter, work is work. "The lawyer sees no reason to Mathews on Bonaire prisoner must comply with and wants the court to compel the OM Mathew to get back to Aruba.

Mathew is currently in custody on suspicion of human beings and the threat. The owner of Foxy Lady was arrested on August 5 in a raid at his strip club in San Nicolas. During this joint action of the OM, the Recherche Cooperation Team (RST) and the Arrest Team (AT) were raided at the nightclub, offices and homes. Also, several items have been taken, including Mathew's car. The case was months ago to come rolling through signals from the National Police Agency in the Netherlands. The coordination center has Trafficking from Ukraine have been reported on the working conditions of employees of the strip club.
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