Natalee Case Discussion #844 7/31/10 - 8/29/2010

[wreck]

I wonder what the hold up is on analyzing the DNA under Stephany's fingernails. We should have heard the results by now.

Do we know that they will release them publicly?

[Magnolia]

It seems that a discredited judge from NL is writing a book about Natalee and publishing it on the internet.

I can bring the translation of part one if needed.  It's nothing new.

http://www.raadsheer-wedzinga.nl/wordpress/2010/08/06/de-vermoorde-onschuld-van-joran-van-der-sloot-de-mysterieuze-verdwijning-van-natalee-holloway-2-2/#more-1069

[klaasend]

It seems that a discredited judge from NL is writing a book about Natalee and publishing it on the internet.

I can bring the translation of part one if needed.  It's nothing new.

http://www.raadsheer-wedzinga.nl/wordpress/2010/08/06/de-vermoorde-onschuld-van-joran-van-der-sloot-de-mysterieuze-verdwijning-van-natalee-holloway-2-2/#more-1069

I see Medleyrelay aka Jan Brennan aka Billybob is trolling over on that website as well 

[Magnolia]

It seems that a discredited judge from NL is writing a book about Natalee and publishing it on the internet.

I can bring the translation of part one if needed.  It's nothing new.

http://www.raadsheer-wedzinga.nl/wordpress/2010/08/06/de-vermoorde-onschuld-van-joran-van-der-sloot-de-mysterieuze-verdwijning-van-natalee-holloway-2-2/#more-1069

I see Medleyrelay aka Jan Brennan aka Billybob is trolling over on that website as well 

And Renho herself made a brief appearance as well.

[Buckeye]

Klaas

There has been some filings in the K2 case.   

[San]

Klaas

There has been some filings in the K2 case.   

Klaas is checking.

[San]

While we are waiting.  Hiya Buckeye and Magnolia 

[Magnolia]

While we are waiting.  Hiya Buckeye and Magnolia 

   Hey San!

[Buckeye]

2010 California Rules of Court

Rule 3.400. Definition

(a) Definition

A "complex case" is an action that requires exceptional judicial management to avoid placing unnecessary burdens on the court or the litigants and to expedite the case, keep costs reasonable, and promote effective decision making by the court, the parties, and counsel.

(b) Factors

In deciding whether an action is a complex case under (a), the court must consider, among other things, whether the action is likely to involve:

(1)Numerous pretrial motions raising difficult or novel legal issues that will be time-consuming to resolve;

(2)Management of a large number of witnesses or a substantial amount of documentary evidence;

(3)Management of a large number of separately represented parties;

(4)Coordination with related actions pending in one or more courts in other counties, states, or countries, or in a federal court; or

(5)Substantial postjudgment judicial supervision.

(Subd (b) amended effective January 1, 2007.)

(c) Provisional designation

Except as provided in (d), an action is provisionally a complex case if it involves one or more of the following types of claims:

(1)Antitrust or trade regulation claims;

(2)Construction defect claims involving many parties or structures;

(3)Securities claims or investment losses involving many parties;

(4)Environmental or toxic tort claims involving many parties;

(5)Claims involving mass torts;

(6)Claims involving class actions; or

(7)Insurance coverage claims arising out of any of the claims listed in (c)(1) through (c)(6).

(Subd (c) amended effective January 1, 2007.)

(d) Court's discretion

Notwithstanding (c), an action is not provisionally complex if the court has significant experience in resolving like claims involving similar facts and the management of those claims has become routine. A court may declare by local rule that certain types of cases are or are not provisionally complex under this subdivision.

(Subd (d) amended effective January 1, 2007.)

Rule 3.400 amended and renumbered effective January 1, 2007; adopted as rule 1800 effective January 1, 2000.

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/rules/index.cfm?title=three&linkid=rule3_400


Doesn't sound complex to me.

[Buckeye]

While we are waiting.  Hiya Buckeye and Magnolia 

Hello there.

[Magnolia]

I have been loving how the peeps at RU are trying to word their denials of the kinship of all
of the movie bunch.

None of them will really say it isn't true.

[klaasend]

There's more but here are the NOTICES.  Each of these are a 2 page notice but the 2nd page is mostly signatures and notary.  There are two more docs, the backup to the notices one is like 64 pages and the other 12.  I'll work on those now:

[Buckeye]

I have been loving how the peeps at RU are trying to word their denials of the kinship of all
of the movie bunch.

None of them will really say it isn't true.

Have been reading comments on the defrocked judge's site.  One person has dealings with Gielen, early on.  He stated that Gielen's crockumentary was financed BEFORE it was made.  She didn't hide that fact when trying to get him interested.  The consensus was that it indeed it is an unsubstantiated crock.  They didn't know who financed her.  I'm torn between Paulus and AHATA.

[Magnolia]

Are they calling it a complex case?

[2NJSons_Mom]

I have been loving how the peeps at RU are trying to word their denials of the kinship of all
of the movie bunch.

None of them will really say it isn't true.

I have to admit that I have not been there in a while.  I know not what they have been saying, but am not surprised, Magnolia. 

[Buckeye]

There's more but here are the NOTICES.  Each of these are a 2 page notice but the 2nd page is mostly signatures and notary.  There are two more docs, the backup to the notices one is like 64 pages and the other 12.  I'll work on those now:

See California's definition of "complex" above.  Sorry, jumped the gun.

[Buckeye]

Are they calling it a complex case?

I think K2 would like it labeled as such.  I believe the hearing is Aug 27th. 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Are they calling it a complex case?

That's what it looks like to me, but I'm not a legal document specialist, by far. 

[Magnolia]

I have been loving how the peeps at RU are trying to word their denials of the kinship of all
of the movie bunch.

None of them will really say it isn't true.

Have been reading comments on the defrocked judge's site.  One person has dealings with Gielen, early on.  He stated that Gielen's crockumentary was financed BEFORE it was made.  She didn't hide that fact when trying to get him interested.  The consensus was that it indeed it is an unsubstantiated crock.  They didn't know who financed her.  I'm torn between Paulus and AHATA.

That little crock that Gielen put together would not have been that expensive, so it may have been
Paulus' backing it.  It was mostly camera work with Renfro and Dompig.  What a credible cast!

[klaasend]

Motion to strike - 12 page doc - first 3 pages the rest is mostly backup for the motion: