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« Reply #320 on: July 22, 2010, 03:38:00 AM »

So according to the school, they were under the assumption that Kyron had a doctors appointment and wouldn't be in school AND Kurtis thought the same thing.
That makes me think Kyron told his friend Kurtis he wouldn't be at school after the science fair because he had doctor's appt.

Thinking outside the box here:  But that would explain why Kyron was not expected to be in talent show, and Kaine didn't know about talent show?

Hey,  you're right! Good deduction. TH had this planned.
That is hit me like a ton of bricks this afternoon, after listening to the school, and Kyron's friends mother:   By the timeline TMH had little more than four hours to take care of Kyron, go home and post the picture, pretend to pick him up at the bus stop with husband and daughter in tow, OMG that is so cold and calculating and premeditated if true.  Yet having to let the facts speak: using truck instead of mustang stated by Kaine that was not a normal routine for the couple, the doctor’s appointment now confirmed by Skyline Elementary spokesperson stating the doctor appointment was told by Terri to Kyron’s teacher to be on the 4Th not the 11Th, and worst of all two teachers seeing Kyron with Terri that fateful morning was the last time Kyron was ever seen.
Where I am at now:http://www.truecrimeinthe21stcentury.com/2010/07/21/kyron-horman-5/

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« Reply #321 on: July 22, 2010, 03:41:57 AM »

Did the recent interview with Kaine at the Wall of Hope happen before or after that pic of him leaving the 3 hour meeting with LE?

The 3-hour meeting was on Tuesday, the interview with Kaine at the Wall of Hope was on Wednesday.
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« Reply #322 on: July 22, 2010, 03:47:52 AM »

Scandi - your post is full of unfounded rumors.  I just want it clear that there is no proof what so ever about any "swinging' lifestyle.  Actually no proof that Kaine was having an affair. 



Kaine has denied having an affair, and said he was unaware of Terri's dalliance with anyone else. He was asked that question point blank. The whole swinging thing was just a bunch of posters spreading rumors. Someone used the word "lifestyle" when discussing Terri, and it became completely blown up  by some posters who miscomprehended what was being said. Somehow it became that Kaine and Terri had a swinging lifestyle. No one knows that as a fact, but it keeps going around as a fact anyway. Kaine has answered it, so I will go with that until there is proof to the contrary. LE would know about it by now, so why would Kaine lie? I don't think he would.
The way rumors have been taken as fact in this case is very disturbing.
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« Reply #323 on: July 22, 2010, 03:49:05 AM »

Kyron’s father touched by outpouring of support
By Anita Kissée KATU News and KATU.com Staff

PORTLAND, Ore. - Kaine Horman came to the chain-link fence on Wednesday that’s come to embody the hope that his missing son, Kyron, will soon be found safe, paused to read dozens of messages to him and his family and said he was deeply touched by the community’s support.

“It’s overwhelming. It really is overwhelming and (it) continues to make me miss him even more, if that’s possible,” he said of the messages that have come from all over the country.

A few times a week he stops by Kyron’s wall of hope outside the elementary school his son was last seen at to read those messages and gather toys and trinkets for his room. He says he is building shelves around Kyron’s room for those things as well as a collage of items on one of his walls.

He says in the seven weeks since Kyron disappeared he’s lucky if he can get in an hour or two of work a day. That goes for sleep too, and when he does sleep, he dreams of Kyron.
“I just see his face and see him in that frame before he left.”

He says he’s not worried about the search for Kyron stalling.

“I think there have been some distractions along the way,” he said. “We’re trying to limit those distractions the best we can and try to stay focused on him and bringing him home.”

That has been his focus since the day his son disappeared and said he waits for that moment that Kyron is back in his arms.

“I envision it every minute of every day and we’re just waiting. He’s still out there, we just need to find him and just the love we have for him and how much we miss him and how much we’re trying to do everything we can to find him. He’s waiting to be found.”

He said he did not want to talk about Kyron’s stepmother, Terri Horman, who has now moved to Roseburg to stay with her parents.

Sources said Wednesday that Terri Horman told Kyron’s teacher prior to his June 4 disappearance that he had a doctor’s appointment on Friday. It was why Kyron’s teacher didn’t expect him in class after the science fair that day. At 10 a.m. his teacher marked him absent.

According to the sources, investigators believe Terri Horman was vague about which Friday she was referring to when she gave notice to the school that Kyron would be gone and only after he was missing did she clarify that the doctor’s appointment was on June 11, the Friday after the science fair.

Terri Horman has not been named a suspect or person of interest in the case and no arrests have been made.

On Wednesday Kaine Horman said he was not “going to worry about Terri.” Instead, he urged people to keep looking for his son.

“When I go places, I see his face on some of the businesses, but I don’t see it up maybe as much as it could be, so I think even in the state and the area there are lots more opportunities to continue to get his face out and recognized by people,” he said.

KATU News reporter Anna Song contributed to this report.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98993464.html
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« Reply #324 on: July 22, 2010, 08:11:20 AM »

FYI - this is an example of what Ed Dames considers one of his success stories. 

60 Miles?  Within 60 Miles?  That's a whole lot of trees/brush/forest to search in Portland or anywhere.




I did a little research on Ed Dames today. I realized I had heard of him before also, and not in a very good light.

And while Dames evidently did once work for the CIA as part of its tests of Remote Viewing, Randi (somewhat gleefully) points out that the "head of the CIA himself publicly declared that Dames found absolutely nothing for the CIA." The Remote Viewing program, the director said, had been "a waste of 20 million dollars. There were no results."
http://www.darkecho.com/skepticalbeliever/two.html

There's a lot out there on Ed Dames.

I don't think Ed Dames can help find Kyron. JMO. YMMV.

Good detective work Brandi!!.  I have personally never heard of this man before.  I was getting excited thinking this may shed some light.  If I were the LE, I would not have exposed him so soon.  I would have let the perpetrators squirm a little bit.  I absolutely hate phonies that exploit people in their time of grief.  But, if it were my child, I would be grabbing onto every tidbit and then I would choke him if I found out he was using me or the situation for gain of fame.
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« Reply #325 on: July 22, 2010, 08:27:42 AM »

Looks relieved and quite possibly pleased to me, Klaas.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyrons-dad-attends-3-hours-of-meetings-at-sheriffs-office-98945234.html

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That is very strange he does look pleased but why?
Can it  be because their going to arrest Teri and he happy..
I don't know what he was thinking, because no one is talking, sure they have good reason, not too concerned with our need to know....lol
With that said the only way I would be able to have an upbeat sort of expression was "if" they "LE" told me that my son was alive and well, or the probably of him being alive and well was very high.  JMO>>>last thing I would be worried about would be the fate of my soon to be ex that wanted to off me.....lol  So I am pleased he had that look on his face gives me hope for Kyron.
It looks like he is saying something to someone his lips are moving.
Also with out media coverage this will be forgotten by a lot of people..
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« Reply #326 on: July 22, 2010, 08:27:54 AM »

Hi Monkeys!

Thanks for all the articles, links and insights. It's JMO, but I wish somebody would just string Terri up by her thumbs until she told what she knows about Kyron's disappearance.
I just can't extend myself to afford her compassion or understanding until Kyron is found, and I'm convinced she has, AT LEAST, information that can help locate him.

Again.................. JMO.


I think they might be stringing up others by the thumbs at this point in time, hoping they might know something and tell them what it is... I think at this point LE probably thinks friends of terri's know something, have been told something etc... and so now they are going after the friends. 

Yup.  Has anyone else besides me wondered if Terri's, "hitting the gym" was code for something?

oh yes, I thought that as soon as I read it... but I always look for things like that. 
it is very possible she was in contact with someone and trying to leave them messages. 
I believe LE thinks she probably told someone something.  or at least what she talked to them about contradicted what she told LE... they are looking for whatever terri has said to anyone, is what I think... and hopefully that info will come out... I want to know what she said to others...that will help me decide more things.. of course I am a nobody and I don't deserve to know anything, but does not stop me from wanting to know so I can make up my mind.  I like to be informed LOL... Especially, when I know a little bit and it would be better to know a lot. 

hmmm....hitting the gym = hitting the Jim?

j/k...I have no idea.  I can't understand how a brain like that works.  I've had times I've wanted to pinch my husband but I've never tried hiring a gardener to do it for me.  I just don't get that kind of thinking.

Hi Monkey's,

Was "Hitting the Gym" was a message to her accomplice? 
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« Reply #327 on: July 22, 2010, 08:37:19 AM »

Okay after seeing Kaine leave the police station, hearing him on the news via KGW in Portland, knowing the high standard that Tony Young would himself and family too, I would have to say 100% they are nothing more than a heartbroken family, dealing with a heartbreaking situation.
Terri Moulton Horman????  big question mark with her, but Kaine's lawyer WOULD not say to the world Law Enforcement has given us a lot of information against her in the contempt of court filing and the hearing set for tomorrow if not true.  That alone does not say anything about Kyron, or Terri's involvement in Kyron's vanishing.
We have two possibilities with Terri's involvement regarding the lie detector she was lying to LE about her affairs (I think Michael Cook was around before June 4Th, who starts up a sexting relationship while your highschool buddy's child is missing?), the MFH Plot or the one that is kind of staring me right in the face she knows what happened to Kyron.
I hate to believe that or think that, she had little more than four hours to take care of Kyron, go home and post the picture, pretend to pick him up at the bus, OMG that is so cold and calculating and premeditate.  Yet the using of the truck instead of mustang, the doctor's appointment now confirmed by school that was told by Terri to be the 4Th not the 11Th, and worst of all two teachers seeing Kyron with Terri the last time Kyron was ever seen.

God speed to you Kyron, Dear Lord please watch over this innocent Little boy and all the other abused children in our sad world.
Kyron Horman: Timeline of events
Friday, June 4


8 a.m. Skyline Elementary, 11536 N.W. Skyline Blvd., opens early so students and parents can tour the science fair. A billboard outside reads: "June 4, I.B. Inquiry Expo, 8-10, Talent show, 1-2:45." Kyron was to take part in both the expo/science fair and the talent show.

Terri Moulton Horman arrives shortly afterward with her stepson, Kyron.

8:15 a.m. Gina Zimmerman, president of the school PTA, arrives and sees Kyron with his stepmother in front of his exhibit.

8:45 a.m. Terri Horman leaves after watching Kyron walk toward his classroom after touring the science fair.

9 a.m. Kyron is seen by a student near the south entrance of the school, according to Sheriff Dan Staton, who says that was the last time the boy was seen. Multnomah County authorities later backtrack on that statement.

10 a.m. Classes begin.

At some point, Kyron's homeroom teacher, Kristina Porter, reports him absent.

1:21 p.m. Terri Horman posts photos of Kyron at the science fair on her Facebook page.

3:30 p.m. Terri Horman goes to meet the school bus and discovers that Kyron has been absent all day. (Kaine Horman went with her to meet the bus, a fact that emerges during a television interview on June 25.)


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...gy_of_eve.html

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« Reply #328 on: July 22, 2010, 08:47:39 AM »

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Prior to his June 4 disappearance, Kyron Horman’s stepmother, Terri Horman, informed his teacher he had a doctor’s appointment on Friday, the sources said, and it was why there was no expectation Kyron would be in class after the science fair. Once class began at 10 a.m., his teacher marked him absent.

According to sources, investigators believe Terri Horman was vague about which Friday she was referring to when she gave notice to the school Kyron would be gone and only after he was missing did she clarify that the doctor’s appointment was on June 11, the Friday after the science fair.

Portland Public Schools spokesperson Matt Shelby told KATU News, "Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”

Kim Holm’s son, Kurtis, who Terri Horman photographed with his science project around the time she took a picture of Kyron that morning, said her son knew about the appointment too.

“And the teacher said, ‘I thought he left with his mom,’ because they thought they had a doctor appointment,” Holm said. “And then at lunchtime, Kurtis ate lunch with him every day, he wasn’t there at lunchtime. And then I got a call at 4:30ish, saying he didn’t get off the bus, I guess. And Kurtis said, ‘Oh yeah, I knew he was already gone all day Mom.’”

At 1:21 that afternoon Terri Horman posted the science fair photos on her Facebook page. At 3:30 she went to meet Kyron’s school bus, which he never boarded. Then came her 9-1-1 call, and the search for Kyron began.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html
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« Reply #329 on: July 22, 2010, 09:01:33 AM »

Kyron is allergic to bees and has a red birthmark on his forehead.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Lk-aXU4wbt4J:www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/02/earlyshow/main6640408.shtml+was+Kyron+allergic+to+bees.&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera
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« Reply #330 on: July 22, 2010, 09:25:09 AM »

Not that it necessarily means anything (especially with how much SM has been going down over the last few months) but the MCSO site is down for me this morning:

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« Reply #331 on: July 22, 2010, 09:32:15 AM »

Not that it necessarily means anything (especially with how much SM has been going down over the last few months) but the MCSO site is down for me this morning:

http://www.mcso.us/PAID/Default.aspx

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« Reply #332 on: July 22, 2010, 09:38:32 AM »

So according to the school, they were under the assumption that Kyron had a doctors appointment and wouldn't be in school AND Kurtis thought the same thing.
This is where I think Terri's volunteering at school and her chumminess with the staff came in handy. She didn't need to provide something in writing, so she could be vague and just say Friday appt. I wonder if the appt. on the 11 was made with just that purpose in mind. Since the school was expecting Kyron to be gone on the 4th, no red flags were raised early on.
I think she may have thought she had all bases covered, but I'm trusting in the fact that she's not as bright as she thought she was. I think LE is close on her heels with more questions she can't answer.
I have thought from day one she planned this all out.  Why in the world would a teacher lie when a child's life is on the line.  I'm not buying the theory the school was CYA.  I'm naive like that, though.


If it was thought that Kyron went for water or to the bathroom...why did someone not question why he never returned to the classroom?
I don't believe it was thought Kyron went to the bathroom. I think TH told the teacher Kyron had a doc appointment.  That's just my opinion, though.
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« Reply #333 on: July 22, 2010, 09:51:21 AM »

That video of Kaine at the Wall of Hope is so sad.  :*(  He looks like a man who is trying so hard to convince himself something is true, but knows deep down, it is not.  JMO.
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« Reply #334 on: July 22, 2010, 10:02:16 AM »

O/T but in the Roseburg area.  Just wanted to show again how many monsters there are out there where you would not expect it.  This guy was just arrested on child porn charges.  There was also a teacher in Roseburg recently arrested on the same charged:

http://www.kpic.com/news/local/99013234.html

According to the Myspace of Ronald Todd his occupation is MINISTER/CAREGIVER

http://www.myspace.com/brotherron1967
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« Reply #335 on: July 22, 2010, 10:06:22 AM »

O/T but in the Roseburg area.  Just wanted to show again how many monsters there are out there where you would not expect it.  This guy was just arrested on child porn charges.  There was also a teacher in Roseburg recently arrested on the same charged:

http://www.kpic.com/news/local/99013234.html

According to the Myspace of Ronald Todd his occupation is MINISTER/CAREGIVER

http://www.myspace.com/brotherron1967
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« Reply #336 on: July 22, 2010, 10:20:26 AM »

O/T but in the Roseburg area.  Just wanted to show again how many monsters there are out there where you would not expect it.  This guy was just arrested on child porn charges.  There was also a teacher in Roseburg recently arrested on the same charged:

http://www.kpic.com/news/local/99013234.html

According to the Myspace of Ronald Todd his occupation is MINISTER/CAREGIVER

http://www.myspace.com/brotherron1967
You basically can't trust anyone 

It used to be these people were few and far between and now, they are on every corner.  Sick b@stard!!!!!!
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« Reply #337 on: July 22, 2010, 10:26:51 AM »

So according to the school, they were under the assumption that Kyron had a doctors appointment and wouldn't be in school AND Kurtis thought the same thing.
That makes me think Kyron told his friend Kurtis he wouldn't be at school after the science fair because he had doctor's appt.

Thinking outside the box here:  But that would explain why Kyron was not expected to be in talent show, and Kaine didn't know about talent show?

Hey,  you're right! Good deduction. TH had this planned.
That is hit me like a ton of bricks this afternoon, after listening to the school, and Kyron's friends mother:   By the timeline TMH had little more than four hours to take care of Kyron, go home and post the picture, pretend to pick him up at the bus stop with husband and daughter in tow, OMG that is so cold and calculating and premeditated if true.  Yet having to let the facts speak: using truck instead of mustang stated by Kaine that was not a normal routine for the couple, the doctor’s appointment now confirmed by Skyline Elementary spokesperson stating the doctor appointment was told by Terri to Kyron’s teacher to be on the 4Th not the 11Th, and worst of all two teachers seeing Kyron with Terri that fateful morning was the last time Kyron was ever seen.
Where I am at now:http://www.truecrimeinthe21stcentury.com/2010/07/21/kyron-horman-5/

I am surprised to see you used the animated .gif I made on your site. I'm glad you didn't hotlink it. (I looked for contact information on your site but could not find any.)
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« Reply #338 on: July 22, 2010, 10:32:01 AM »

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Terri Horman has not been named a suspect or person of interest in the case and no arrests have been made.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98993464.html

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Considering Terri has not been arrested regarding the MFH plot again Kaine  and ... considering the failed sting attempt ... it would appear that LE does not have a solid foundation of evidence that the landscaper's words reflect the truth ... just heresay.

Considering Terri has not been arrested in regards to the disappearance of Kyron ... it would appear that there is no concrete witness account that Terri and Kyron left the school together ... no solid evidence of implication..

Unless Terri develops an conscience ... challenging Kaine allegations which were revealed in the restraining order as well as challenging the removal from her home ... will be of of no benefit Terri if she is required to defend herself by answering the hard questions.

As always ... in my opinion.

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Dad Believes Stepmom Involved In Disappearance
Restraining Order Against Terri Horman Filed June 28
POSTED: 12:31 pm PDT July 8, 2010
UPDATED: 4:46 pm PDT July 8, 2010


"I believe respondent (Terri Horman) is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that the respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me.  The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true," according to the court documents.

http://www.kptv.com/news/24186798/detail.html

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« Reply #339 on: July 22, 2010, 10:39:34 AM »

O/T but in the Roseburg area.  Just wanted to show again how many monsters there are out there where you would not expect it.  This guy was just arrested on child porn charges.  There was also a teacher in Roseburg recently arrested on the same charged:

http://www.kpic.com/news/local/99013234.html

According to the Myspace of Ronald Todd his occupation is MINISTER/CAREGIVER

http://www.myspace.com/brotherron1967
I live in a VERY small town that is actually like maybe 3,000 and you would not believe the number of registered offenders, it is very scary.  I didn't realize the world had so  many sick people.  Sometimes I wonder what makes today so different as when we were growing up? I am in my mid 40's
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