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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #8 7/20/10 - 7/23/10  (Read 247416 times)
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« Reply #720 on: July 23, 2010, 12:18:53 AM »

Forgot my manners....Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

Hi darla! I agree with your sentimaents about DeDe. Under normal and innocent circumstances, adults are eager to cooperate to bring home a missing child safely!



I guess I am from the old world where people cooperated with cops or get thrown in jail. We need to go back to an eye for an eye. Take their lying butts to court if found guilty and get the death penalty take them out the back door and git-r-done right then and there. Seems to me kids a disposable now days. If you don't want them hell just kill em. and refuse to talk to the cops. That is what this amounts to. If Kyron was my child or grandchild I would have beat the answers out of Terri the first day.


Now this post makes the most sense of any I have read today IMO....
I feel exactly the same as you do!
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« Reply #721 on: July 23, 2010, 12:21:27 AM »

If Terri was so afraid of Kyron's safety don't you think she'd be fighting for KIARA? 
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« Reply #722 on: July 23, 2010, 12:20:50 AM »


Seems that LE has Terri's phone records.  It will be interesting to find out someday if Terri called/texted Dede just prior to 11.30a on June 4th, that being perhaps what may have caused Dede to abruptly leave work. 

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« Reply #723 on: July 23, 2010, 12:22:05 AM »

If Terri was so afraid of Kyron's safety don't you think she'd be fighting for KIARA? 


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« Reply #724 on: July 23, 2010, 12:25:03 AM »

Forgot my manners....Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

Hi darla! I agree with your sentimaents about DeDe. Under normal and innocent circumstances, adults are eager to cooperate to bring home a missing child safely!



I guess I am from the old world where people cooperated with cops or get thrown in jail. We need to go back to an eye for an eye. Take their lying butts to court if found guilty and get the death penalty take them out the back door and git-r-done right then and there. Seems to me kids a disposable now days. If you don't want them hell just kill em. and refuse to talk to the cops. That is what this amounts to. If Kyron was my child or grandchild I would have beat the answers out of Terri the first day.


Now this post makes the most sense of any I have read today IMO....
I feel exactly the same as you do!



Thank you! I am so fed up with kids going missing and killed. There is no rhyme or reason for it. If you do not want the children take them to the police station or somewhere safe.
I don't go along with the scenrio that she has Kyron hid for his safety. Who is she protecting him from? If she is protecting him from Kaine, well now he has her daughter and she is not even willing to fight to see her?
So who is the big bad guy she is protecting him from? If she didn't do anything to Kyron why not tell what she knows? Just disgusting human beings.
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« Reply #725 on: July 23, 2010, 12:27:01 AM »

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html?utm_medium=TerriMoultonHorman.com

Close friend of Terri's spotted near Kyron's home when he vanished

by Frank Mungeam

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Posted on July 22, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Updated today at 9:20 PM

PORTLAND, Ore. -- DeDe Spicher, identified as a close friend of Terri Horman, was doing gardening work not far from the family's  home in Northwest Portland on the day Kyron Horman disappeared, KGW has learned from a reliable source. Spicher reportedly left where she was working at 11:15 a.m. on June 4 and returned around 1 p.m.

The person who owns the house, who is cooperating with investigators, told them she called Spicher on her cell phone but she didn't answer, the source told KGW. A person who was working with Spicher, who is also cooperating with investigators, told them of trying to unsuccessfully find Spicher. Both people have told investigators they have no idea where Spicher was during that period.

Thursday evening, the parents of Kyron Horman issued a public plea to DeDe Spicher, naming her in a written statement that says police have informed them Spicher has been in "close communication" with Terr Moulton-Horman since Kyron went missing, and that Spicher has been "providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son."

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« Reply #726 on: July 23, 2010, 12:27:34 AM »

O/T but in the Roseburg area.  Just wanted to show again how many monsters there are out there where you would not expect it.  This guy was just arrested on child porn charges.  There was also a teacher in Roseburg recently arrested on the same charged:

http://www.kpic.com/news/local/99013234.html

According to the Myspace of Ronald Todd his occupation is MINISTER/CAREGIVER

http://www.myspace.com/brotherron1967





I live in a VERY small town that is actually like maybe 3,000 and you would not believe the number of registered offenders, it is very scary.  I didn't realize the world had so  many sick people.  Sometimes I wonder what makes today so different as when we were growing up? I am in my mid 40's



I wonder the same thing. Is it that there are more sick people,or is it just out in the open more now? People used to not prosecute offenders, and a lot of it was swept under a rug. I also think people are more selfish now.....
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« Reply #727 on: July 23, 2010, 12:29:03 AM »

Wow, you can learn a lot about a person from their Twitter!  Since late last year Dede has hired contractors (through ServiceMagic, maybe?) and has her house on the market.  She also is very, very into gardening.
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« Reply #728 on: July 23, 2010, 12:29:46 AM »

Maybe LE needs to go out to the Horman property and see if anything has been planted lately.
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« Reply #729 on: July 23, 2010, 12:32:48 AM »

Klaas, we don't know that she isn't with the assistance of Houze. Perhaps they are working on their own evidentiary case. I don't know, but I do know I have seen enough with manipulation of the justice system in other cases with custody being awarded to the wrong person. The friends of Terri would not likely stand by her so steadfast if Terri had harmed Kyron. Mr. Cook would not have likely been involved in a romantic relationship with Terri if he felt she was a murderer. The likelihood of all of these people having sociopathic tendencies is not very high. Sociopathy is an antisocial disorder.
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« Reply #730 on: July 23, 2010, 12:32:52 AM »

If Terri was so afraid of Kyron's safety don't you think she'd be fighting for KIARA? 

Terri may not have taken/hidden Kyron for his own safety.  Isn't it possible she had Kyron disappeared in some kind of sick game to piss off Kaine?  The family may have gotten word from someone back then that Kyron is alive, cared for, just hidden.  Which could be why Desiree began that one interview with 'Kyron.Is.Alive.'  Kaine may have looked so happy yesterday cuz maybe they have finally gotten word as to where Kyron might be hidden at. 

How/why Terri isn't fighting for Kiara, I have no idea, cuz I don't think like her! 

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« Reply #731 on: July 23, 2010, 12:34:34 AM »

Wow, you can learn a lot about a person from their Twitter!  Since late last year Dede has hired contractors (through ServiceMagic, maybe?) and has her house on the market.  She also is very, very into gardening.

@Rosemont_Farm This is my friend's child. I know him. It's so so scary!     10:50 PM Jun 5th  via txt 

http://twitter.com/dedejustdede
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« Reply #732 on: July 23, 2010, 12:35:10 AM »

If Terri was so afraid of Kyron's safety don't you think she'd be fighting for KIARA? 

Safety from whom? Kaine? Well yeah, no doubt about it she would have fought him tooth and nail imvho.

I have looked at several different potential theories not just one. All the theories that include TH as a likely suspect are aired each and every day.
I have no problem with that especially considering that LE, KH, DY, TY etc... are indeed looking at her VERY closely themselves but there is always that "what if". I've said from the beginning that I believe that Terri may have somehow contributed to Kyron's disappearance but that I am not exactly sure how.
If you read back I even theorized TH's son's possible involvement. It doesn't make it so just because I discussed the theory.

My main theory that I am sticking to like glue is not even a theory it is a belief and my belief is that Kyron is still alive.
I don't want to believe that TH harmed him but what if she did? "What if" she backhanded him at the school that morning and caused a bruise and/or black eye? "What if" she asked her friends to help hide him so she would not get into trouble? "What if" Terri had told all her friends that Kyron was a handful and that she just snapped and hauled off and hit him?
I don't know. I am frustrated here too.

Please find Kyron and to whomever has him, please let Kyron go home. His family loves and misses him terribly and you know it. You also saw the begging and pleading from his Father and Mother on national television.
Be the hero and give Kyron back NOW!

OK I think I have just officially had a meltdown!
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« Reply #733 on: July 23, 2010, 12:36:51 AM »

Wow, you can learn a lot about a person from their Twitter!  Since late last year Dede has hired contractors (through ServiceMagic, maybe?) and has her house on the market.  She also is very, very into gardening.

@Rosemont_Farm This is my friend's child. I know him. It's so so scary!     10:50 PM Jun 5th  via txt 

http://twitter.com/dedejustdede

What sicko!  Well she did say she couldn't afford prozac so she works out!
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« Reply #734 on: July 23, 2010, 12:37:48 AM »

Kyron's family calls on friend of Terri's to tell what she knows

The family of Kyron Horman released this statement Thursday evening, July 22, 2010

Good Evening,

We have been briefed by law enforcement on the most recent developments in Kyron's case.

We have been informed that they have identified a person that has been in close communication with Terri Moulton Horman since Kyron went missing and her name is DeDe Spicher. She has not only been in close communication with Terri but has been providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son.

Additional information provided shows that she is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron's disappearance, not to cooperate as well.

We implore DeDe Spicher to come forward and cooperate with the investigators in any way that they need in order to assist us in finding our son. We will state further that if we find out through the investigation that she caused a delay in us finding our son due to her lack of cooperation, we will pursue civil remedies in this matter.

We as a family cannot understand how anyone can look at Kyron's smiling face, having information and choose not to help bring him home. Please remember what this is about, it's about bringing a wonderful little boy back to his family.

Desiree, Kaine and Tony

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Kyrons-family-calls-on-friend-of-Terris-to-tell-what-she-knows-99076714.html

chit i hope kaines smile and look of triumph, didnt have to do with info from LE about dede
and friends, and now she wont cooperate , what a Fn let down that must be, im starting
to think LE is playing a bad game here, at kyrons expense, and his families expense
this is getting more screwy by the minute, JMO
i bet kaine blows a gasket soon, i would, and i would be doing right at this moment
where ever TH is at
little man your getting lost in the bs, i so wish i could help you
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« Reply #735 on: July 23, 2010, 12:39:24 AM »

Hi, I swear I read somewhere there had been an arrest in the case today.  Anyone else read that?  Do we have anyone on the jails?  Tualatin is in Washington County I believe.  And looking at the photos of Dede's house it sure looks like it could be in Tualatin.  She also mentioned a restaurant in Wilsonville which is the next town going south down I-5.  xox  IMO
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« Reply #736 on: July 23, 2010, 12:39:29 AM »

Klaas, we don't know that she isn't with the assistance of Houze. Perhaps they are working on their own evidentiary case. I don't know, but I do know I have seen enough with manipulation of the justice system in other cases with custody being awarded to the wrong person. The friends of Terri would not likely stand by her so steadfast if Terri had harmed Kyron. Mr. Cook would not have likely been involved in a romantic relationship with Terri if he felt she was a murderer. The likelihood of all of these people having sociopathic tendencies is not very high. Sociopathy is an antisocial disorder.

Michael Cook didn't know her.  Her friends want to believe her.  There are still people that believe Casey Anthony and Joran van der Sloot.  Monsters do exist. 
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« Reply #737 on: July 23, 2010, 12:43:03 AM »

If Terri was so afraid of Kyron's safety don't you think she'd be fighting for KIARA? 

This is the same brick wall that I kept coming upon in my thinking. Let's just say that TH has been saying for months that Kaine is abusive to Kyron and James and Kiara. She sends James away and then amps up her abusive Kaine story with her friends and family. She convinces one or more parties that Kaine is so abusive that the only way out is to kidnap Kyron and send him somewhere safe. They kidnap him and he is safe but in hiding. What about Kiara? Why would she not be in danger as well? She may have tried to talk Cook into taking Kiara back when they found Kaine's address on his phone. It did not work. Now Kaine has had Kiara for weeks. Why is there no danger to Kiara? It does not make sense. What also does not make sense is Kaine being so happy last night. I cannot imagine being happy if he found out that his son was no longer with us, even if it meant that they were close to indicting Terri. I as well as most people would be in a rage and very upset. I think that the plan has failed along the way for Terri. I do not think she thought that she would lose custody of Kiara because I think she thought she would get away with everything. Now she sits, without Kiara and the walls are closing in. I hope if Kyron is alive that he is brought back pronto. The longer this drags on, the more trouble those that have any involvement are going to be in. I guess for me, I have a hard enough time wrapping my brain around a woman who raised a boy killing him, (although I know it happens), but accomplices to a murder as well? A 7 year old boy? I have to hold out hope for a live Kyron.
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« Reply #738 on: July 23, 2010, 12:44:46 AM »

We don't know for sure that Michael Cook, a childhood friend of Kain's, did not know Terri previously.
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« Reply #739 on: July 23, 2010, 12:46:26 AM »

If Terri was so afraid of Kyron's safety don't you think she'd be fighting for KIARA? 

Safety from whom? Kaine? Well yeah, no doubt about it she would have fought him tooth and nail imvho.

I have looked at several different potential theories not just one. All the theories that include TH as a likely suspect are aired each and every day.
I have no problem with that especially considering that LE, KH, DY, TY etc... are indeed looking at her VERY closely themselves but there is always that "what if". I've said from the beginning that I believe that Terri may have somehow contributed to Kyron's disappearance but that I am not exactly sure how.
If you read back I even theorized TH's son's possible involvement. It doesn't make it so just because I discussed the theory.

My main theory that I am sticking to like glue is not even a theory it is a belief and my belief is that Kyron is still alive.
I don't want to believe that TH harmed him but what if she did? "What if" she backhanded him at the school that morning and caused a bruise and/or black eye? "What if" she asked her friends to help hide him so she would not get into trouble? "What if" Terri had told all her friends that Kyron was a handful and that she just snapped and hauled off and hit him?
I don't know. I am frustrated here too.

Please find Kyron and to whomever has him, please let Kyron go home. His family loves and misses him terribly and you know it. You also saw the begging and pleading from his Father and Mother on national television.
Be the hero and give Kyron back NOW!

OK I think I have just officially had a meltdown!
Hi Patricia,  I hope with all my heart Kyron is alive and being sheltered somewhere.  My gut tells me that if he is alive they would have already pulled him away to safety.  They have been watching this Dede closely it seems, aware of the contacts she had with Terri since Kyron disappeared.  Many of these LE officers are among the best IMO, like the CARD Team and the BAU with the FBI.  xox
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