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« Reply #420 on: July 23, 2010, 10:29:04 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/policescanner/audio/index.ssf

IRsomeone,talking about the RRtunnel
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check him out about hes 6ft white male backpack/they can see in the tunnel

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http://www.oregonlive.com/policescanner/
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« Reply #421 on: July 23, 2010, 10:31:58 PM »

Thanks so much for all the updates, articles, quotes, research and insights.

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« Reply #422 on: July 23, 2010, 10:34:13 PM »

Have we heard anything more from or about Kim Holm?  Just curious.





She is another volunteer at Skyline her husband is Kat who passed on and her son had added comments regarding seeing TH and Kaine at the school IIRC.

With the alleged sightings from Jim Kelley (and apparently a neighbor?)
and being so close to that vicinity it sure does make things curious.
With all of this I somehow lost who Kim Holm is. Could someone tell me, thank-you?
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« Reply #423 on: July 23, 2010, 10:33:55 PM »

Did I do that? OOPS got into the quote box!
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« Reply #424 on: July 23, 2010, 10:35:21 PM »

Thanks so much for all the updates, articles, quotes, research and insights.

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My thanks as well.
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« Reply #425 on: July 23, 2010, 10:34:31 PM »

Cat though not Kat right?
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« Reply #426 on: July 23, 2010, 10:36:58 PM »

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99151549.html


Sources detail Terri’s timeline day Kyron disappeared

by Anna Song KATU News

Originally printed at http://www.katu.com/news/local/99151549.html

PORTLAND, Ore. - According to multiple sources, Terri Moulton Horman says she left Skyline School at 8:45 in the morning without Kyron the day he disappeared and that between 8:45 a.m. and 10:10 a.m. she ran errands at local grocery stores and can prove it.

As KATU news first reported, at least two stores, the Albertsons on Hillsdale Highway and the Sunset Fred Meyer, are cooperating with investigators. The Albertsons confirmed it turned over surveillance tape to investigators in the case.

Between 10:10 in the morning and 11:39, Terri said she drove her daughter Kiara around on rural roads in the family’s white truck because Kiara had an earache. She said she was trying to soothe the toddler with the motion of the vehicle.  ((IMO this is when she got rid of Kyron))

Early on investigators made a request of the public for any video they might have of the white truck traveling on specific roads through Northwest Multnomah County and portions of Washington County.

At 11:39 a.m., Terri checked in at a 24-hour Fitness in Beaverton on Waterhouse Avenue and worked out for about an hour until 12:40 p.m.

By 1:21, Terri said she'd traveled home - a distance of nearly 11 miles - and was posting photos on Facebook she'd taken that morning of  Kyron standing with his science project and of his friend, Kurtis, standing with his.

Sources said she also e-mailed the teacher to find out when she could come pick up the project as she had not taken it home.

Yet according to Kaine Horman, that was the very reason Terri requested to drive the truck that day to Skyline School.

He said in an e-mail to KATU News: “I typically drive the truck and Terri drives the car. She wanted to use the truck to bring Kyron's science fair project home, easier done with the truck than the car."

Two of Terri's friends who've taken polygraph tests and turned over evidence said they are cooperating fully with investigators and have nothing to hide.

Dede Spicher, another friend of Terri’s, has been accused by Kyron’s biological parents, Desiree Young and Kaine Horman, for not cooperating with police. Spicher refused to answer reporter’s questions Friday.

No one has been named a suspect or person of interest in the case, and police have not made any arrests.


I have never heard of driving a toddler around when they have an earache to soothe it..color me stupid..because ear infections seem to run rampant in our family..and no one has put the child in the car to help that particular thing.

I have heard of motion in cars to help infants sleep that have colic..but never earaches.  And if Kiara had an earache..what was she doing dragging her around town and the countryside on a chilly rainy day?  Why didn't she take her home after the science fair and wait until Kaine got home to run her errands? 
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« Reply #427 on: July 23, 2010, 10:37:24 PM »

DeDe is to be in court on Monday (I take that to mean the grand jury)

Terri is in town today to see her attorney (I take that to mean he's prepping her for grand jury testimony on Monday)

The LE has a scheduled presser for next Tuesday (I take that to mean that they're going to announce the grand jury decisions).

Based on that we know the grand jury has been talking to a number of people already and with the testimony of DeDe on Monday, and probably Terri's testimony, too, the grand jury will have all they need to make their decision(s).

There may well be multiple indictments.


okay so we know the above and:::
that the cousin is real
the father *feel bad for innocent family members* is a policeman, maybe with SAR
Two friends have come forward that they took poly's and passed, their homes were searched**  do we know who they are?
waiting on happy hour to be over for an update on rosemont farm
DeDe is not cooperating, but wouldn't she be the 3rd person or friend being looked into?
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« Reply #428 on: July 23, 2010, 10:38:29 PM »

I just read posts here:
http://twitter.com/TheINNsider

I'm feeling sick. Especially the comments about DeDe and pigs.
I know I can't "wish" this little boy to be alive and safe but I am afraid I am going to lose it if he isn't   
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« Reply #429 on: July 23, 2010, 10:40:09 PM »

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99151549.html


Sources detail Terri’s timeline day Kyron disappeared

by Anna Song KATU News

Originally printed at http://www.katu.com/news/local/99151549.html

PORTLAND, Ore. - According to multiple sources, Terri Moulton Horman says she left Skyline School at 8:45 in the morning without Kyron the day he disappeared and that between 8:45 a.m. and 10:10 a.m. she ran errands at local grocery stores and can prove it.

As KATU news first reported, at least two stores, the Albertsons on Hillsdale Highway and the Sunset Fred Meyer, are cooperating with investigators. The Albertsons confirmed it turned over surveillance tape to investigators in the case.

Between 10:10 in the morning and 11:39, Terri said she drove her daughter Kiara around on rural roads in the family’s white truck because Kiara had an earache. She said she was trying to soothe the toddler with the motion of the vehicle.  ((IMO this is when she got rid of Kyron))

Early on investigators made a request of the public for any video they might have of the white truck traveling on specific roads through Northwest Multnomah County and portions of Washington County.

At 11:39 a.m., Terri checked in at a 24-hour Fitness in Beaverton on Waterhouse Avenue and worked out for about an hour until 12:40 p.m.

By 1:21, Terri said she'd traveled home - a distance of nearly 11 miles - and was posting photos on Facebook she'd taken that morning of  Kyron standing with his science project and of his friend, Kurtis, standing with his.

Sources said she also e-mailed the teacher to find out when she could come pick up the project as she had not taken it home.

Yet according to Kaine Horman, that was the very reason Terri requested to drive the truck that day to Skyline School.

He said in an e-mail to KATU News: “I typically drive the truck and Terri drives the car. She wanted to use the truck to bring Kyron's science fair project home, easier done with the truck than the car."

Two of Terri's friends who've taken polygraph tests and turned over evidence said they are cooperating fully with investigators and have nothing to hide.

Dede Spicher, another friend of Terri’s, has been accused by Kyron’s biological parents, Desiree Young and Kaine Horman, for not cooperating with police. Spicher refused to answer reporter’s questions Friday.

No one has been named a suspect or person of interest in the case, and police have not made any arrests.


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I wonder where Kyron was from 8:45 to 10:10 while she was shopping?

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« Reply #430 on: July 23, 2010, 10:43:10 PM »

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99151549.html


Sources detail Terri’s timeline day Kyron disappeared

by Anna Song KATU News

Originally printed at http://www.katu.com/news/local/99151549.html

PORTLAND, Ore. - According to multiple sources, Terri Moulton Horman says she left Skyline School at 8:45 in the morning without Kyron the day he disappeared and that between 8:45 a.m. and 10:10 a.m. she ran errands at local grocery stores and can prove it.

As KATU news first reported, at least two stores, the Albertsons on Hillsdale Highway and the Sunset Fred Meyer, are cooperating with investigators. The Albertsons confirmed it turned over surveillance tape to investigators in the case.

Between 10:10 in the morning and 11:39, Terri said she drove her daughter Kiara around on rural roads in the family’s white truck because Kiara had an earache. She said she was trying to soothe the toddler with the motion of the vehicle.  ((IMO this is when she got rid of Kyron))

Early on investigators made a request of the public for any video they might have of the white truck traveling on specific roads through Northwest Multnomah County and portions of Washington County.

At 11:39 a.m., Terri checked in at a 24-hour Fitness in Beaverton on Waterhouse Avenue and worked out for about an hour until 12:40 p.m.

By 1:21, Terri said she'd traveled home - a distance of nearly 11 miles - and was posting photos on Facebook she'd taken that morning of  Kyron standing with his science project and of his friend, Kurtis, standing with his.

Sources said she also e-mailed the teacher to find out when she could come pick up the project as she had not taken it home.

Yet according to Kaine Horman, that was the very reason Terri requested to drive the truck that day to Skyline School.

He said in an e-mail to KATU News: “I typically drive the truck and Terri drives the car. She wanted to use the truck to bring Kyron's science fair project home, easier done with the truck than the car."

Two of Terri's friends who've taken polygraph tests and turned over evidence said they are cooperating fully with investigators and have nothing to hide.

Dede Spicher, another friend of Terri’s, has been accused by Kyron’s biological parents, Desiree Young and Kaine Horman, for not cooperating with police. Spicher refused to answer reporter’s questions Friday.

No one has been named a suspect or person of interest in the case, and police have not made any arrests.


I have never heard of driving a toddler around when they have an earache to soothe it..color me stupid..because ear infections seem to run rampant in our family..and no one has put the child in the car to help that particular thing.

I have heard of motion in cars to help infants sleep that have colic..but never earaches.  And if Kiara had an earache..what was she doing dragging her around town and the countryside on a chilly rainy day?  Why didn't she take her home after the science fair and wait until Kaine got home to run her errands? 

I agree.  She drives the baby around to soothe her and then goes on to the gym. 
Why didn't she take the baby home and call the doctor? 
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« Reply #431 on: July 23, 2010, 10:44:48 PM »

"At 11:39 a.m., Terri checked in at a 24-hour Fitness in Beaverton on Waterhouse Avenue and worked out for about an hour until 12:40 p.m."

Is this the gym Terri usually worked out at? I know the Hormans are members at Extreme Edge in Beaverton which, I believe, was a 24 hour fitness prior to March of this year. Do people at the Waterhouse gym know her by sight?
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« Reply #432 on: July 23, 2010, 10:47:10 PM »

Watch: Friends of Spicer fear they'll become linked to Kyron case

http://www.katu.com/home/video/99151934.html



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« Reply #433 on: July 23, 2010, 10:47:37 PM »

I'm in the process of digging into dede and her family right now... I putting it in a work thread as I go along... feel free to use it and go from there.  I'm one person and I can't do it all that quickly, but should have some reports done up tonight or tomorrow ...

one thing I have run across though is this and it is probably nothing, but I'm making a note of it and if anyone has the time they can go from there to see what is there. 

dede has relatives in WILSON county KS...

remember her post.. about red robin in wilson is HOT and no A/C

just a thought... I'll try to find out who lives there.

Heads up PDX peeps: the Red Robin in Wilsonville has no A/C. I think their heat may be on.     9:07 PM Jul 9th  via txt

http://twitter.com/dedejustdede

(PDX stands for Portland. And it was in the 90's that day in Portland.)
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« Reply #434 on: July 23, 2010, 10:48:12 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/policescanner/audio/index.ssf

IRsomeone,talking about the RRtunnel
scanner just confirmed there is vid, dispatch sending a car there to
check him out about hes 6ft white male backpack/they can see in the tunnel

codes to scanner
http://www.oregonlive.com/policescanner/
here is the one at Multnomah county

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=cwp&ctid=2230
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« Reply #435 on: July 23, 2010, 10:49:27 PM »

I'm surprised she is driving and not her father or mother. 



I agree she looks different.  The eyebrows, the "sculpting" contour/highlight makeup, the dark lipstick.  She looks "under siege" emotionally, IMO.  Wonder if she will be a Casey Anthony, or if she will break?

The article said that it is her mother Carol in the passenger seat.  So, her mom traveled from Roseburg with Terri, and is accompanying her to the attorney's office?  Hmm..

Since we are looking at Terri's timeline with new eyes and new information, I just revisited Carol's detailed first version of Kyron's disappearance, presumably as told to her by Terri.  I think those details are worth reviewing at this juncture.

This might be from the site we're not allowed to copy from... so here is a link.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html

The information in this early story, first published June 5, less than 24 hours after Kyron was reported missing, came from Carol, Terri's mom.
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« Reply #436 on: July 23, 2010, 10:48:52 PM »

[quote:Jonesr(OP) 1046730]
MR PREDICTOR!  Your ESP post quote has just jogged my memoy, I have fished Sauvie island, Ive seen a location that matches the description. I have half a mind to go lookin. Think it worth the look around?
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i hope Jonesr doesnt, he will be chasing and chasing that kind of thing
to help his family,and drive his self nuts

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« Reply #437 on: July 23, 2010, 10:51:01 PM »

I'm in the process of digging into dede and her family right now... I putting it in a work thread as I go along... feel free to use it and go from there.  I'm one person and I can't do it all that quickly, but should have some reports done up tonight or tomorrow ...

one thing I have run across though is this and it is probably nothing, but I'm making a note of it and if anyone has the time they can go from there to see what is there. 

dede has relatives in WILSON county KS...

remember her post.. about red robin in wilson is HOT and no A/C

just a thought... I'll try to find out who lives there.

Heads up PDX peeps: the Red Robin in Wilsonville has no A/C. I think their heat may be on.     9:07 PM Jul 9th  via txt

http://twitter.com/dedejustdede

(PDX stands for Portland. And it was in the 90's that day in Portland.)

hi brandi... yes I know about portland area and the wilson red robin by there, but I also know something else and so I am wondering if she meant something else about WILSON...

sorry it is just my goofy thinking and WORDS...

but she does have relatives in wilson ks, so you know I have to look. 
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« Reply #438 on: July 23, 2010, 10:51:33 PM »

I just read posts here:
http://twitter.com/TheINNsider

I'm feeling sick. Especially the comments about DeDe and pigs.
I know I can't "wish" this little boy to be alive and safe but I am afraid I am going to lose it if he isn't   
That is why are we are waiting for Anita Kissee to return from happy hour and post her report she went to that farm today.  Honestly last night I did't think anything about it until we started researching today, and oh well, I am sure our imagination is running away with us.
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« Reply #439 on: July 23, 2010, 10:55:53 PM »

one question... and what do they call the portland airport?
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