Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 - 8/16/10

[SunnyinTX]

If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that 

Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!

I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did 

We went through all this when some people were SURE Lee was Caylee's biodad....so it was proven beyond a doubt that Lee wasn't...so now it's George??  I refused to get into this conversation again...it's a lose/lose...you either believe the reports of you don't....I don't know diddlysquat about DNA reports....hope Turbo can get someone who really knows what they are doing to analyze the reports. Personally I think it's a bullcrap. I don't think Kc was abused by Lee or georgieboy. JMO

[SunnyinTX]

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Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony

That's interesting. Yes George molested Casey, but what does that mean? Boob grab? Penetration? Intercourse? How often? At what age did it start? Who has Casey told? So many questions!
And why was Lee eliminated as the father of Caylee??????

DNA testing by FBI labs eliminated both Lee and George as Caylee's bio daddy.

Please give me the link to that FBI report. I have seen it said on a blog where they showed the profile but to this day I have not been able to find the FBI report showing George's DNA profile. I have searched and searched, to no avail.

The blogger who is usually very accurate received that information from "someone else", so until I see the actual report, I will have to stand with my previous assumption that George's has not been released yet and that is some more of the misinformation the Anthony family has put out.

I'm not sure if this is what you meant by "the actual report," Turbo, but it was all that I could find. 

FBI DNA test results for George and Lee are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Sept. 29, 2009: 
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
The chart is on Page 87.
George is K7-1, and Lee is K9-1.

FBI DNA test results for Caylee and Casey are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Oct. 9, 2009:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html
The chart is on Page 56.
Caylee is Q18-1, and Casey is K1-1.


And for those who have not seen the blog post Turbo referenced, here is where Valhall of Hinky Meter expanded upon the conclusions her friend/reader Brenda had submitted.  Val put all the DNA info on a spreadsheet chart in order to visually compare how everyone's alleles line up:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2009/10/31/about-caylees-parentage/

IF this data is legitimate, then it would appear that George could not be Caylee's father, nor could Lee, nor Jesse.  And btw, despite the speculation I read somewhere (I think it was here at SM) about George's DNA ruling him out as Casey's father, it actually appears from the FBI data that George and Cindy both match up as the parents of both Lee and Casey.

Bottom line, according to this data, Cindy and George are the parents of Lee and Casey.  Casey is the mother of Caylee.  Caylee's father is NOT George, Lee, or Jesse.  Caylee's father is still unknown.

I am having trouble getting this to download this morning as it is 662 pages but will get it eventually. I am going to print off those pages which refer to the DNA and take them first of the week to the University of Tennessee DNA specialist and also send them to my friend who is a Ph.D. in BioForensics in Michigan and see what their take is on this. I can't remember, but for some reason, I did not think that George's was in this release, and I have read it many times.  If it is, we will get to the truth in this.

thanks Turbo....I will be interested in the results and the truth!!.

[SunnyinTX]

I think the "toss in the woods" was a temporary remedy to an immediate need. I think there was something which happened to make them need to get rid of the body fast. That was close, and not easily found. Then the rains came in so fast the body became covered in water and they could not retrieve it. I don't think it was ever the intended place, but became that because of the fast flooding.

I'm with ya. Maybe hiding it from Cindy? Maybe a secret pact of secrets with George and Casey.
And then George played dumb when he picked up the car and there still was a smell!!!

I think George put a snake in the road because he patrolled the place and saw the meter readers hanging out there.

   surely you are saying this in jest???

[SunnyinTX]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

[no rose colored glasses]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

I will fall off my computer chair, and call it quits    Just am not ready for something like this.

[Babybear]

I don't know much, but IF it turns out that George is Caylee's father  not a jury in the world would give the death penalty to Casey, imo. I honestly don't think a jury will anyway, imo.

Hi NR--I agree.  IMO Casey will not receive the death penalty.  I don't think she'll receive LWOP.  Life, maybe, with possibility of parole.  It depends on how many choices they have when they go to deliberate.  If manslaughter, it wouldn't surprise me.  I don't think attractive young women are ever sentenced to death. Ugly middle aged women, not young and pretty.  I know that a couple are on death row, but still alive.  I don't think it's right, but it is what it is.   

[Babybear]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

I will fall off my computer chair, and call it quits    Just am not ready for something like this.

Oh I don't think George is Caylee's father, I just haven't seen an FBI DNA report on him.  But I do think he could throw Caylee's little body in the woods.  After all, it appears that he and Cindy knew where she was for some time before Kronk found her.  They left her there. They are dispicable people.

[Babybear]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

No, I don't think he's the father either.  Just haven't seen an official FBI report eliminating him.  I don't know who these people on the internet are or how much training, if any, they've had.  Just words on a screen until something official is released.

[tupelohoney]

If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that 

Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!

I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did 

We went through all this when some people were SURE Lee was Caylee's biodad....so it was proven beyond a doubt that Lee wasn't...so now it's George??  I refused to get into this conversation again...it's a lose/lose...you either believe the reports of you don't....I don't know diddlysquat about DNA reports....hope Turbo can get someone who really knows what they are doing to analyze the reports. Personally I think it's a bullcrap. I don't think Kc was abused by Lee or georgieboy. JMO

I'm with you on this one Sunny.   And my best guess is that this is just another game the defense is playing, it will never come up in court, but it doesn't matter, the accusation has already done it's harm. Casey is going down, she knows it and she is going to take as many people with her, so to speak, as she can. She takes great pleasure in doing so, IMO

Also, on the day of George getting his gas cans back....He has told two different stories about what his actual position was at the car that day....I can't determine if he could actually see into the trunk or not.  I really don't feel George is involved with Caylee's death or disposal, in any way.

[SunnyinTX]

I don't know much, but IF it turns out that George is Caylee's father  not a jury in the world would give the death penalty to Casey, imo. I honestly don't think a jury will anyway, imo.

Hi NR--I agree.  IMO Casey will not receive the death penalty.  I don't think she'll receive LWOP.  Life, maybe, with possibility of parole.  It depends on how many choices they have when they go to deliberate.  If manslaughter, it wouldn't surprise me.  I don't think attractive young women are ever sentenced to death. Ugly middle aged women, not young and pretty.  I know that a couple are on death row, but still alive.  I don't think it's right, but it is what it is.   

Hi BB...I agree..although I still have my doubts about it ever going to trial. If it does, I do not think she will get the DP....but I do hope she gets LWOP....the duct tape evidence is going to be shocking....even to those who 'know' about the duct tape....to see an image whether a physical one or a 3-D image....it's going to be a kick in the stomach. I think there is still forensic evidence we haven't seen....a work in progress perhaps

[no rose colored glasses]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

I will fall off my computer chair, and call it quits    Just am not ready for something like this.

Oh I don't think George is Caylee's father, I just haven't seen an FBI DNA report on him.  But I do think he could throw Caylee's little body in the woods.  After all, it appears that he and Cindy knew where she was for some time before Kronk found her.  They left her there. They are dispicable people.

Maybe again I'm being fooled by George, I just don't see him throwing Caylee's body, but then again, to save Casey he may  Just so hard to imagine this.

[SunnyinTX]

If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that 

Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!

I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did 

We went through all this when some people were SURE Lee was Caylee's biodad....so it was proven beyond a doubt that Lee wasn't...so now it's George??  I refused to get into this conversation again...it's a lose/lose...you either believe the reports of you don't....I don't know diddlysquat about DNA reports....hope Turbo can get someone who really knows what they are doing to analyze the reports. Personally I think it's a bullcrap. I don't think Kc was abused by Lee or georgieboy. JMO

I'm with you on this one Sunny.   And my best guess is that this is just another game the defense is playing, it will never come up in court, but it doesn't matter, the accusation has already done it's harm. Casey is going down, she knows it and she is going to take as many people with her, so to speak, as she can. She takes great pleasure in doing so, IMO

Also, on the day of George getting his gas cans back....He has told two different stories about what his actual position was at the car that day....I can't determine if he could actually see into the trunk or not.  I really don't feel George is involved with Caylee's death or disposal, in any way.

Hi tupelo!  I don't think he was either. I think his lies/different stories are him, trying to 'protect' Kc because sin-cin tell him to.  He is weak and spineless...I don't believe he could live with having done anything to dispose of Caylee.  I believe he loved Caylee more than anyone in that house....she loved him unconditionally. He was her Jo-Jo.

[mizjay]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

I will fall off my computer chair, and call it quits    Just am not ready for something like this.

He does have a way of getting you to believe that he's so sincere about something and then, bam! he pulls an essay out of his back pocket or is singing kc's praises...who knows?  I can't wait for this to end, it's hard to stop watching because they're all such nasty ppl. I want them all to pay.  And another thing, it's been said that Cindy wasn't wearing her ashes jewelery, if she wasn't her denial of Caylee is complete. She would rather deny her loyalty to Caylee's memory than sink her own lying ship.

Oh I don't think George is Caylee's father, I just haven't seen an FBI DNA report on him.  But I do think he could throw Caylee's little body in the woods.  After all, it appears that he and Cindy knew where she was for some time before Kronk found her.  They left her there. They are dispicable people.

Maybe again I'm being fooled by George, I just don't see him throwing Caylee's body, but then again, to save Casey he may  Just so hard to imagine this.

[mizjay]

.....oops, got into the wrong place in my last post. 

[N2WISHN]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.

[mizjay]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.

One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters

[N2WISHN]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.

One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters

IMO he is doing everything he can to make sure his gorgeous(in his eyes only) daughter never gets the DP and that includes his phony suicide attempt.

[mizjay]

And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up    I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled. 

me too.....

Really, what a joke...and the defense has spent all that time and money when they should be deposing people, working on forensics, and we're supposed to believe that his cornball "suicide" attempt is important to this defense. I'll freely admit, I have no clue what lawyers are supposed to be doing, as in timeline, but c'mon, they spend more time investigating the dumbest stuff, like Kronks' ex. The State can probably shred her apart if she's on the stand, so why bother? I don't get it, it just seems like "busy work" to me.


Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.

One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters

IMO he is doing everything he can to make sure his gorgeous(in his eyes only) daughter never gets the DP and that includes his phony suicide attempt.

[mizjay]

   Okay, I give up, I got in the quote box AGAIN. I better go take a nap!

[N2WISHN]

  Okay, I give up, I got in the quote box AGAIN. I better go take a nap!

Happens to me too. I get so upset by what has gone on and is still going on with the defense and the ants. It's taking too long for justice and its like torture to watch the shenanigans and now the taxpayers are footing the bill.