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« Reply #460 on: September 06, 2010, 07:15:33 AM »

Has this website: http://www.prisonersinperu.nl been discussed on the forum ?
Anita Hugen-van der Sloot is involved.
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« Reply #461 on: September 06, 2010, 07:49:58 AM »

Has this website: http://www.prisonersinperu.nl been discussed on the forum ?
Anita Hugen-van der Sloot is involved.

I hadn't seen that.  Quite interesting.  One of the links is to a petition, to have him serve his time, in the Netherlands. Interesting group of names, including Rene Gielen.

http://petities.nl/petitie/joran-van-der-sloot
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« Reply #462 on: September 06, 2010, 08:00:45 AM »

Has this website: http://www.prisonersinperu.nl been discussed on the forum ?
Anita Hugen-van der Sloot is involved.


A comment, on one of the links, states that Anita started the website.   
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« Reply #463 on: September 06, 2010, 08:10:46 AM »

Report: Van der Sloot Admits Extorting Money From Holloways

Published September 06, 2010
Associated Press


http://tinyurl.com/26pr3nw

AMSTERDAM -- The Dutchman charged with killing a 21-year-old Peruvian woman and suspected in the disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway  has acknowledged extorting money from Holloway's parents and says he did it to get back at them, according to an interview published Monday.

The Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf quoted Joran van der Sloot as confessing to taking money from the family of the teenager in return for revealing the location of her body. He was indicted in the U.S. in June for extortion after being caught in an FBI sting, though the place he indicated as her burial site site turned out to be bogus.

Holloway was last seen alive with him on the Caribbean resort island of Aruba in 2005, and he has publicly said he killed her and then retracted his confession several times.

"I wanted to get back at Natalee's family -- her parents have been making my life tough for five years," the paper quoted him as saying from prison in Peru. "When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not'?"

U.S. prosecutors say that in the sting earlier this year, Natalee's mother sent $10,000 in cash to Van der Sloot through an FBI witness, and a wire transfer of $15,000 to Van der Sloot's bank account in the Netherlands. He took the money and flew to Latin America.

He has been charged with killing Stephany Flores in his hotel room in Lima, Peru on May 30 -- 5 years to the day after Holloway's disappearance. He met both women in casinos.

Van der Sloot initially confessed to killing Flores to Peruvian police, but later said he only did so because he was intimidated and had been promised he would be extradited to the Netherlands.

His requests to have the confession retracted have so far been denied and he awaits trial.

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« Reply #464 on: September 06, 2010, 08:22:55 AM »

Has this website: http://www.prisonersinperu.nl been discussed on the forum ?
Anita Hugen-van der Sloot is involved.


A comment, on one of the links, states that Anita started the website.   

This woman has no shame. Of course she wants him to serve his time in the Netherlands.  Once he gets there they will release him.  They will come up with some stupid law and say Joran went to therapy and according to our system we don't recognize other countries laws when it comes out our Dutch citizens so he is free to go.

Did I see a link where they are asking to donate money.

No need to donate money because Anita has money and she also has people backing her.  This is just a shell so she can hide that fact.  What is Anita hiding.  She is hiding a boat load.  JMO
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« Reply #465 on: September 06, 2010, 08:26:43 AM »

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Natalee and then her parents have caused all his troubles.  The scenario reinforced by his mother and friends.

The crying, devastated mother, who won't visit him, is too busy accepting donations and petitioners, to travel.  He learned his lying, manipulating ways from the master. Too bad one of the Dutch journalists doesn't ask real questions.

Neither has remorse. Neither is responsible.
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« Reply #466 on: September 06, 2010, 08:41:27 AM »

Not only Rene Gielen signed the petition, but also 3 members of the Maessen family. So it wouldn't surprise me the blond girl who is visiting Joran in prison is, as Joran stated himself ' my girlfriend' is Fabienne Maessen. She is now is a exchange student, residing in Sao Paulo, Latin America.
The donations makes it possible for her to fly to Lima.

FEA USP

http://www.usp.br/fea/conteudo.php?i=73&a=3&idpais=84
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« Reply #467 on: September 06, 2010, 08:43:13 AM »

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Natalee and then her parents have caused all his troubles.  The scenario reinforced by his mother and friends.

The crying, devastated mother, who won't visit him, is too busy accepting donations and petitioners, to travel.  He learned his lying, manipulating ways from the master. Too bad one of the Dutch journalists doesn't ask real questions.

Neither has remorse. Neither is responsible.


I always thought it was Paulus that was the evil one.  Well Anita just moved ahead of him.  She doesn't have a conscience.  It's too bad she doesn't end up the same way her husband did.
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« Reply #468 on: September 06, 2010, 08:46:49 AM »

Not only Rene Gielen signed the petition, but also 3 members of the Maessen family. So it wouldn't surprise me the blond girl who is visiting Joran in prison is, as Joran stated himself ' my girlfriend' is Fabienne Maessen. She is now is a exchange student, residing in Sao Paulo, Latin America.
The donations makes it possible for her to fly to Lima.

FEA USP

http://www.usp.br/fea/conteudo.php?i=73&a=3&idpais=84


This girl was always weird.  I can see it being her.  I forget which site it was but after seeing who she had listed as her friends nothing would surprise me.  In fact after we discovered her page she quickly made it private.
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« Reply #469 on: September 06, 2010, 08:58:30 AM »

Let's just say that Joran gets seven years for the murder of Stephany Flores and when it is time for him to be released where does he go.  Do they send him to the Netherlands or do they send him to the United States where they are waiting for him on his extortion case.

What idiot would admit to this.  Does he think that when he gets out and they bring him here to face the charges against him that he is going to say I was lying.  They have this idiot hook line and sinker even without that confession.  Or does he think that he will serve his time and he will go home and once again he will thumb his nose at the FBI.

And one more thing.  Stop this family from entering the United States once and for all. 
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« Reply #470 on: September 06, 2010, 09:24:12 AM »

And it wouldn't surprise me Fabienne Maessen maybe has chosen Universidad de Pacifico in Lima. Also a SBE partner of her business school Maastricht. Joran needs her. That's for sure.


http://www.maastrichtuniversity.nl/web/Faculties/SBE/TargetGroup/ProspectiveStudents/ExchangeProgramme1/PartnerUniversitiesAndBusinessSchool.htm
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« Reply #471 on: September 06, 2010, 09:32:12 AM »

The only reason that I can think of, for Anita not to pursued Joran to tell the truth to her, and give some peace to the Holloways, is that she knows the truth. She needs to help Joran because of the family lie (he had help from her, PVDS and/ or Val).  She needs to make him happy.
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« Reply #472 on: September 06, 2010, 09:35:43 AM »

The only reason that I can think of, for Anita not to pursued Joran to tell the truth to her, and give some peace to the Holloways, is that she knows the truth. She needs to help Joran because of the family lie (he had help from her, PVDS and/ or Val).  She needs to make him happy.

I agree.

Plus I believe that Natalee died in her home.
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« Reply #473 on: September 06, 2010, 09:36:53 AM »

The only reason that I can think of, for Anita not to pursued Joran to tell the truth to her, and give some peace to the Holloways, is that she knows the truth. She needs to help Joran because of the family lie (he had help from her, PVDS and/ or Val).  She needs to make him happy.

I agree.

Plus I believe that Natalee died in her home.

 
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« Reply #474 on: September 06, 2010, 09:47:35 AM »

Petition linked to this site:

http://joranisonschuldig.blogspot.com/

Translated link:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjoranisonschuldig.blogspot.com%2F&sl=nl&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8




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« Reply #475 on: September 06, 2010, 09:54:11 AM »

Ruben Poppelaars - creater of the blog, starter of the petition:

This him?

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbondtehond.blogspot.com%2F2010%2F03%2Fpoppelaars-de-jongh-adviesbureau-gat-in.html&sl=nl&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

http://www.crimesite.nl/misdaad/advocaten/16410-poppelaars-a-de-jongh-forensic-consultancy.html

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« Reply #476 on: September 06, 2010, 09:55:51 AM »



Am so far behind in reading ... but thanks for posting.     an angelic monkey
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« Reply #477 on: September 06, 2010, 09:56:49 AM »



Am so far behind in reading ... but thanks for posting.     an angelic monkey

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« Reply #478 on: September 06, 2010, 10:05:21 AM »


holy crap..........big time! 
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« Reply #479 on: September 06, 2010, 10:09:47 AM »



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The second Joran set foot in Peru, he became subject to the laws in Peru.  The crime was committed in Peru against a Peruvian citizen.  Let Joran be tried, sentenced and serve his time in Peru.  AND he is accused of the murder of a young, defenseless woman. What are the other Dutch citizens accused of?  Drugs?  Joran's crime was murder!

There is nothing that should give Joran Van der Sloot any special privileges.  He's not done anything that should be rewarded.  He's done no work in philanthropy I can see, he's not been any kind of ambassador of peace, not spoken out for the down trodden such as women's rights or abused children and etc.  So why should Joran be treated any better than others?  I think it's about money.  The smell of money is in the air.  In my opinion, there are those with money and they are greasing the wheels with it.  The prospect of a juicy news story is worth a lot of money.  And of course, there's influence.  Why would anyone use any of their money or influence to help this murdering punk, social misfit, deviant (and etc. etc.)?

Joran, suck it up and be a man for once in your life.  Face up to your crime and serve your time.  Anita, cut those apron strings, he isn't a kid anymore.  Anita's been an enabler for years and years, and has aided and abetted Joran.  She's still pulling strings and calling in favors but this time from afar.  I know many felt like it was Paulus, but I truly feel like it is and has been Anita in the background all this time manipulating.  Paulus was just a puppet for her use.  Anita is a sorry excuse for a mother.  I don't know why or how she is still in any kind of position to teach students.  I would never have let this woman be a teacher to one of my children.  Maybe she has managed to secure her position as a teacher in title, but as far as being someone I would want to mentor  children, no way!  There are reasons Anita isn't going to Peru, and I don't think it's money.  What is it?  I'd surely like to know?  Is she just two faced by saying she won't go to Peru to visit him, yet starts websites for his support and pays money toward his car, yet says she doesn't have a relationship with him anymore?  Maybe Anita doesn't go to Peru because the crowds will throw rotted vegetables at her!  It won't be like the time she went to NY, got in the limo and was in the hotel and etc.  The crowds in Peru will go after her!!
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