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« Reply #860 on: September 10, 2010, 09:53:27 PM »

Sorry you feel that way Klassand.

I do not know any of them personally.
 I do not see where they did anything of value beyond anyone else. Just more confusion.
Maybe it would have been best to stay silent.



It was not Costa Rica it was Nicaragua.
It was not a cruel hoax.. It Was By Design.

By the way.. Anything I say is just my humble opinion and I can be wrong on any point and I reserve the right to be ignorant. 

Dave is a wonderful man and he has a heart of gold..
Beth has her attributes too.
I love them both.

I love Beth More... She is a babe. 
One of the smartest women I have ever seen.
 





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« Reply #861 on: September 10, 2010, 09:55:55 PM »

I feel bad that his trust was broken by that group of people at flipthebird to integrity.
Anyways it hurts all of us when trust is broken by insiders that attempt to confide for purpose of investigation.

John gets zero respect from me no matter what ..He was and is only after money. He was paid a ransom to do the search in the first place.

Edward - I'm really surprised at your rudeness.  I have the utmost respect for members of Freebirds.

I do too, and I'm shocked and appalled that such a remark would ever be made about Natalee's Freebirds.

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #862 on: September 10, 2010, 09:59:22 PM »

Sorry you feel that way Klassand.

I do not know any of them personally.
 I do not see where they did anything of value beyond anyone else. Just more confusion.
Maybe it would have been best to stay silent.



It was not Costa Rica it was Nicaragua.
It was not a cruel hoax.. It Was By Design.

By the way.. Anything I say is just my humble opinion and I can be wrong on any point and I reserve the right to be ignorant. 

Dave is a wonderful man and he has a heart of gold..
Beth has her attributes too.
I love them both.

I love Beth More... She is a babe. 
One of the smartest women I have ever seen.
 







Documentation Edward which is far more than anyone at BFN has been doing.  At least the people at Freebirds aren't "sleeping" with the enemy like many at BFN including Debbie, IMO.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.0
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« Reply #863 on: September 10, 2010, 09:59:39 PM »

Freebirds is not law enforcment nor are they a group of licensed investigators.
They made huge mistakes.
They should have communicated ONLY to Dave and Beth and let the Holloways do the walking and the talking.
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« Reply #864 on: September 10, 2010, 10:00:46 PM »

Sorry you feel that way Klassand.

I do not know any of them personally.
 I do not see where they did anything of value beyond anyone else. Just more confusion.
Maybe it would have been best to stay silent.



It was not Costa Rica it was Nicaragua.
It was not a cruel hoax.. It Was By Design.

By the way.. Anything I say is just my humble opinion and I can be wrong on any point and I reserve the right to be ignorant. 

Dave is a wonderful man and he has a heart of gold..
Beth has her attributes too.
I love them both.

I love Beth More... She is a babe. 
One of the smartest women I have ever seen.
 






Edward, I don't think you are malevolent  -- just a little misguided of what you have been told @ BFN. There was a LOT of digging at SM -- I don't think you would have the opinion you do if you careully studied what was revealed here. -JMO
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« Reply #865 on: September 10, 2010, 10:01:21 PM »

Joran - Dateline starting now.  You can watch online too:

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nbc.html
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« Reply #866 on: September 10, 2010, 10:01:42 PM »

Ok, TM the PRICK is on  Monkey Devil!


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« Reply #867 on: September 10, 2010, 10:02:57 PM »

Freebirds is not law enforcment nor are they a group of licensed investigators.
They made huge mistakes.
They should have communicated ONLY to Dave and Beth and let the Holloways do the walking and the talking.
jmho
 
What mistakes? ........ and are you SURE they had no ties to Law Enforcement??
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« Reply #868 on: September 10, 2010, 10:05:24 PM »

Freebirds is not law enforcment nor are they a group of licensed investigators.
They made huge mistakes.
They should have communicated ONLY to Dave and Beth and let the Holloways do the walking and the talking.
jmho
 

Would you care to clarify what you have deemed to be huge mistakes? 

By the way, you are almost sounding like Reality at the moment 
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« Reply #869 on: September 10, 2010, 10:10:03 PM »

No !! Not reality .. I hates that guy... 

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« Reply #870 on: September 10, 2010, 10:16:53 PM »

The huge mistake is that all research by all of us should go to family only.

The enemy is close and always has been.. They want to keep the game close.

Beth has never been here openly.
Dave tried to come into the forums and chat but in the end it was a disaster.
Robin ran off with Reality .. GeeWiz.. and I even talked with her about it..
I never did figure that one out..
They do not come around anymore, at least not in the open.

FeeBirds had an opportunity to be the secret weapon for Dave and Beth and although I was not part of that research team I have always said we needed a higher level to keep the average people out of proper research and to keep redundancy to a minimum.
 
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« Reply #871 on: September 10, 2010, 10:22:05 PM »

Edward - it's my understanding that Freebirds shared their work first with Beth and Dave before posting anything openly.

Freebirds is not the enemy but there are or were many at BFN that Debbie and Robin befriended that are.  That would include Jan Brennan who is still a member of BFN, Reality, GAGirl/Gal or whichever one it was, and too many others to mention.   
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« Reply #872 on: September 10, 2010, 10:26:00 PM »

Also, I'd like to add I am of the opinion that parents of missing persons have no place posting on forums and blogs. 
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« Reply #873 on: September 10, 2010, 10:39:42 PM »

The huge mistake is that all research by all of us should go to family only.

The enemy is close and always has been.. They want to keep the game close.

Beth has never been here openly.
Dave tried to come into the forums and chat but in the end it was a disaster.
Robin ran off with Reality .. GeeWiz.. and I even talked with her about it..
I never did figure that one out..
They do not come around anymore, at least not in the open.

FeeBirds had an opportunity to be the secret weapon for Dave and Beth and although I was not part of that research team I have always said we needed a higher level to keep the average people out of proper research and to keep redundancy to a minimum.


About the bolded part above ... did that happen? Am I reading this correctly? Question
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« Reply #874 on: September 10, 2010, 10:44:38 PM »

The huge mistake is that all research by all of us should go to family only.

The enemy is close and always has been.. They want to keep the game close.

Beth has never been here openly.
Dave tried to come into the forums and chat but in the end it was a disaster.
Robin ran off with Reality .. GeeWiz.. and I even talked with her about it..
I never did figure that one out..
They do not come around anymore, at least not in the open.

FeeBirds had an opportunity to be the secret weapon for Dave and Beth and although I was not part of that research team I have always said we needed a higher level to keep the average people out of proper research and to keep redundancy to a minimum.
 


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Are you not enraged that John Silvetti afforded the Aruban enemy ... who has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway ... unchallenged possession of what may have been her remains?  What would be your reaction if Natalee were your daughter?

In hindsight ... the outcome of the Persistence endeavor was a given.

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
Reply #559 on: March 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM


I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4
Reply #499 on: April 09, 2008, 12:39:50 AM


If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg372245;topicseen#msg372245


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Sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine. .....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750
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« Reply #875 on: September 10, 2010, 10:45:05 PM »

yes, it happened.
 Reality started his own forum and he caused Robin to not trust anyone except him.
Refugee memebers and FOB members flocked there.


 
 
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« Reply #876 on: September 10, 2010, 10:47:37 PM »

Also, I'd like to add I am of the opinion that parents of missing persons have no place posting on forums and blogs. 

It worked with Ambers mom. We even had the police monitor our research from Escondido.

It has helped with Gloria, Aprils mom.

It has been a support for Carolyn, Clintons mom.

Blink has Morgans parents and the police.

I respectfully disagree.
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« Reply #877 on: September 10, 2010, 10:51:44 PM »

This case is so much different.. It is not limited to the United Stetes and not to one state like most cases...

BFN is infiltrated... Debbie is a conservative.. Or they just have different opinion. Very limited.

It is hard to do research beyond the excepted opinion, but a few members are wonderful and stay out of the turmoil.

I have been attacked a few times now by ex monkey members at BFN.

We say prayer for some people and then I am told not to talk about religion.. lol
It is tough.

 People never quite understand this one thing about this case ...
We are dealing with a very dangerous and well Organized enemy that works on a world wide basis..  They have infiltrated us Early !! Very early.
That is what brought me here.. I could see them doing this.

ALL On-line gambling Begins in the Carribean and Aruba ..They have a huge knowledge of internet security and are quite well versed in computer technology. 
In all actual we are way behind them in these areas.

Gambling drugs prostitution is directly connected to the richest people in our world and most important the underworld.

They are specialist in disinformation ..
They attack by design and have done this to us since the first day. 

Look at Peru ...
Joran is close to walking out !! with legal representation he should not own.
Our legal system is lining up in hopes they can snag him on release.
News media is lining up for the next Joran interview.

This is a sick game and the enemy infiltrated us very early.

You all see me get my hands dirty and my feet wet in other cases and you know I am real and that my only agenda is to bring Natalee home to Alabama.
It is the same agenda I have for any other lost person. I go oit of my way to support the family and find there lost person.



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« Reply #878 on: September 10, 2010, 10:54:55 PM »

yes, it happened.
 Reality started his own forum and he caused Robin to not trust anyone except him.
Refugee memebers and FOB members flocked there.


 
 

Okay, I was NOT reading that statement correctly.
(Robin, at best, is ditzy. But for a minute there I thought CRAZY.)

Anything worthwhile on DATELINE?
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« Reply #879 on: September 10, 2010, 10:59:59 PM »

yes, it happened.
 Reality started his own forum and he caused Robin to not trust anyone except him.
Refugee memebers and FOB members flocked there.


 
 

Okay, I was NOT reading that statement correctly.
(Robin, at best, is ditzy. But for a minute there I thought CRAZY.)

Anything worthwhile on DATELINE?
It was well put together. Nothing new for most of US -- but, informative for most of America!!
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