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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #845 8/29/2010 - 9/12/2010  (Read 240550 times)
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« Reply #480 on: September 06, 2010, 10:24:52 AM »

http://www.cbs42.com/mostpopular/story/Will-confession-hurt-van-der-Sloot/YxRUwr4fbkOqPVgAHp4EZQ.cspx


Will "confession" hurt van der Sloot?


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"When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not'?"
Birmingham, Al (WIAT) Has Joran van der Sloot finally told one story too many?  Will his comments to Dutch crime reporter John van den Heuvel help federal authorities here in Birmingham bring him to the U.S. to face wire fraud and extortion charges?

In a prison cell interview to be aired tonight on Dutch TV, van der Sloot admits he took money from Natalee Holloway's family after promising information about the Mountain Brook teenagers disappearance on a graduation trip to Aruba.

"I wanted to get back at Natalee's family - her parents have been making my life tough for five years," the paper De Telegraaf quoted him as saying from prison in Peru. "When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not'?"

U.S. prosecutors say that in the sting earlier this year, Natalee's mother sent $10,000 in cash to Van der Sloot through an FBI witness, and a wire transfer of $15,000 to Van der Sloot's bank account in the Netherlands. He took the money and flew to Latin America.  He met Peruvian student Stephany Flores in a Lima, Peru casino.  Her corpse was later found in his hotel room.

Van der Sloot stated that he and his father buried Natalee’s body underneath the foundations of a house in Oranjestad, the capital of Aruba. However, the body was never found. An FBI investigation showed construction of the house in question had not even started yet in 2005 when Natalee disappeared.

He's facing murder charges in Stephany Flores death and Peruvian police have a confession. Van der Sloot claims that confession was coerced and is trying to get it thrown out.  That's where the "confession" to extortion comes into play.  If, and it's considered a long shot, a three judge Peruvian panel throws out his confession, willl the U.S. extradition request get more consideration from Peruvian officials?
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« Reply #481 on: September 06, 2010, 10:26:22 AM »



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The second Joran set foot in Peru, he became subject to the laws in Peru.  The crime was committed in Peru against a Peruvian citizen.  Let Joran be tried, sentenced and serve his time in Peru.  AND he is accused of the murder of a young, defenseless woman. What are the other Dutch citizens accused of?  Drugs?  Joran's crime was murder!

There is nothing that should give Joran Van der Sloot any special privileges.  He's not done anything that should be rewarded.  He's done no work in philanthropy I can see, he's not been any kind of ambassador of peace, not spoken out for the down trodden such as women's rights or abused children and etc.  So why should Joran be treated any better than others?  I think it's about money.  The smell of money is in the air.  In my opinion, there are those with money and they are greasing the wheels with it.  The prospect of a juicy news story is worth a lot of money.  And of course, there's influence.  Why would anyone use any of their money or influence to help this murdering punk, social misfit, deviant (and etc. etc.)?

Joran, suck it up and be a man for once in your life.  Face up to your crime and serve your time.  Anita, cut those apron strings, he isn't a kid anymore.  Anita's been an enabler for years and years, and has aided and abetted Joran.  She's still pulling strings and calling in favors but this time from afar.  I know many felt like it was Paulus, but I truly feel like it is and has been Anita in the background all this time manipulating.  Paulus was just a puppet for her use.  Anita is a sorry excuse for a mother.  I don't know why or how she is still in any kind of position to teach students.  I would never have let this woman be a teacher to one of my children.  Maybe she has managed to secure her position as a teacher in title, but as far as being someone I would want to mentor  children, no way!  There are reasons Anita isn't going to Peru, and I don't think it's money.  What is it?  I'd surely like to know?  Is she just two faced by saying she won't go to Peru to visit him, yet starts websites for his support and pays money toward his car, yet says she doesn't have a relationship with him anymore?  Maybe Anita doesn't go to Peru because the crowds will throw rotted vegetables at her!  It won't be like the time she went to NY, got in the limo and was in the hotel and etc.  The crowds in Peru will go after her!!

I agree Muffy.  Rant away.

Anita won't go to a country where she doesn't have control.
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« Reply #482 on: September 06, 2010, 10:29:02 AM »

 

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« Reply #483 on: September 06, 2010, 10:42:16 AM »

The only reason that I can think of, for Anita not to pursued Joran to tell the truth to her, and give some peace to the Holloways, is that she knows the truth. She needs to help Joran because of the family lie (he had help from her, PVDS and/ or Val).  She needs to make him happy.

I agree.

Plus I believe that Natalee died in her home.

I still believe that too San.
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« Reply #484 on: September 06, 2010, 10:44:44 AM »

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usp.br%2Ffea%2Fconteudo.php%3Fi%3D73%26a%3D3%26idpais%3D84



She could easily be flying to Peru once a week

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« Reply #485 on: September 06, 2010, 11:06:07 AM »


Her school facebook page had her leaving San Paulo, for Amsterdam, in August.   
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« Reply #486 on: September 06, 2010, 11:07:27 AM »


Her school facebook page had her leaving San Paulo, for Amsterdam, in August.   


http://fabienneinbrazil.waarbenjij.nu/?page=profile
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« Reply #487 on: September 06, 2010, 11:15:45 AM »

Perhaps NBC could question the Dutch journalist about the donation page.  If he doesn't know, perhaps he could call Anita, on air, and hear her explanation.
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« Reply #488 on: September 06, 2010, 11:17:05 AM »


From her photos at the above link (thanks Buckeye).  Almost looks like Joran in this pool:


http://fabienneinbrazil.waarbenjij.nu/?page=pictures&intTravelId=225469



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« Reply #489 on: September 06, 2010, 11:19:44 AM »



I thought the same thing.
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« Reply #490 on: September 06, 2010, 11:19:54 AM »

On closer look I don't think it's Joran.  At first I was wondering if Joran had visited her in his South American travel but I don't believe this is Joran.  Better looking than Joran, IMO:



If the photo isn't showing it's because photobucket is having a glitch this morning  
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« Reply #491 on: September 06, 2010, 11:21:47 AM »

Perhaps NBC could question the Dutch journalist about the donation page.  If he doesn't know, perhaps he could call Anita, on air, and hear her explanation.


At least NBC would not be just promoting their agenda.
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« Reply #492 on: September 06, 2010, 11:22:42 AM »

On closer look I don't think it's Joran.  At first I was wondering if Joran had visited her in his South American travel but I don't believe this is Joran.  Better looking than Joran, IMO:



If the photo isn't showing it's because photobucket is having a glitch this morning 


and ears not quite so Dumboish.
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« Reply #493 on: September 06, 2010, 11:35:06 AM »

Has this website: http://www.prisonersinperu.nl been discussed on the forum ?
Anita Hugen-van der Sloot is involved.

I hadn't seen that.  Quite interesting.  One of the links is to a petition, to have him serve his time, in the Netherlands. Interesting group of names, including Rene Gielen.

http://petities.nl/petitie/joran-van-der-sloot

This blonde signed the petition as well.  Claims to be in Aruba:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Claudie-Wegdam/804712592#!/profile.php?id=804712592

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« Reply #494 on: September 06, 2010, 11:45:03 AM »

Another on the petition that claims to be in the NL:

Christella Moors

http://www.facebook.com/MissVerstand



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« Reply #495 on: September 06, 2010, 11:48:18 AM »

Another blonde from the pettition:  

Marlies Beerman (Veerman?)


http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=641326976&ref=search


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« Reply #496 on: September 06, 2010, 12:02:51 PM »

http://www.prisonersinperu.nl

From the bottom of the page...

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From the petition:

http://petities.nl/petitie/joran-van-der-sloot

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  from the brochure...





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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #497 on: September 06, 2010, 12:04:37 PM »

Another one of the BIMBOS that signed the pettition:

Mallary Ashton

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1801468660&ref=search


Her facebook groups:

   
RollingTimes.org, Boycott BP, CNN, www.HunterThompsonFilms.com, Stephany Flores Ramirez and Joran Van der Sloot Case, YES, I would leave a casino with Joran Van Der Sloot., Lima, Peru, Hollywood, CA, Navarre Beach, Florida, Joran van der Sloot, James Franco, Love It!, AGGIES 4 LIFE, Corinth Paranormal Research (CPR), when you start to miss me just remember you let me go, MadGab's Bakery, CHANNING TATUM <3
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« Reply #498 on: September 06, 2010, 12:13:56 PM »

Another one of the BIMBOS that signed the pettition:

Mallary Ashton


http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1801468660&ref=search


Her facebook groups:


   
RollingTimes.org, Boycott BP, CNN, www.HunterThompsonFilms.com, Stephany Flores Ramirez and Joran Van der Sloot Case, YES, I would leave a casino with Joran Van Der Sloot., Lima, Peru, Hollywood, CA, Navarre Beach, Florida, Joran van der Sloot, James Franco, Love It!, AGGIES 4 LIFE, Corinth Paranormal Research (CPR), when you start to miss me just remember you let me go, MadGab's Bakery, CHANNING TATUM <3

One of her friends:


http://www.facebook.com/search/?flt=1&q=wendy+martens&o=2048&s=10#!/profile.php?id=100001241254307&ref=sgm



Joran SLander LawSuit


I'm going through the friends on the Joran Slander facebook now 
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« Reply #499 on: September 06, 2010, 12:15:34 PM »

Another one of the BIMBOS that signed the pettition:

Mallary Ashton

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1801468660&ref=search


Her facebook groups:

   
RollingTimes.org, Boycott BP, CNN, www.HunterThompsonFilms.com, Stephany Flores Ramirez and Joran Van der Sloot Case, YES, I would leave a casino with Joran Van Der Sloot., Lima, Peru, Hollywood, CA, Navarre Beach, Florida, Joran van der Sloot, James Franco, Love It!, AGGIES 4 LIFE, Corinth Paranormal Research (CPR), when you start to miss me just remember you let me go, MadGab's Bakery, CHANNING TATUM <3

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