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Quote from: Anna on September 06, 2010, 10:11:09 PM
Someone needs to explain to Anita that Joran would not qualify for being sent to the NL to serve his sentence because he is awaiting extradition to the U.S. on his extortion warrant. Peru and the US already have extradition treaties in place.
I talked to someone from the NL over the weekend and they said that this "girlfriend" is just am embassy worker that would be made available to anybody from the NL and Joran is likely lying about it being anything more. Note that she is in her 30's and so not age appropriate for Joran.
Like everything else, he's just lying some more.
The only place Joran is going to go should he ever leave Peru is to the US to face charges here. Anita is dreaming that the whole world is trying to get her psycho kid out of jail. She needs to talk to an international lawyer before doing these idiotic things unless of course, it is for other prisoners benefit she is working. Hers ain't going anywhere from Peru except maybe to Levenworth to stand trial again.
And extortion carries a very heavy sentence in this country, more than murder in NL.
Just saying. . . .
Anna, thanks for the info...interesting
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He's a sociopath and anyone that believes otherwise is incredibly stupid or gullible.
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/07/peru.vandersloot/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage'
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 7, 2010 9:11 a.m. EDT
CNN) -- In a jailhouse interview with a Dutch television station, Joran van der Sloot said he is remorseful for telling so many stories regarding the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, but once again denied culpability in the case.
"For everything that's happened since 2005, all the things said in the media and everything, I feel guilty for, yeah," van der Sloot, 22, said in the interview, portions of which were aired on NBC's "Today" on Tuesday.
The Dutch citizen is jailed in Lima, Peru, where he is awaiting trial on a murder charge in the death of Peruvian student Stephany Flores. Her body was found in May in a hotel room registered to van der Sloot, which the two were seen entering on surveillance camera video. He also is charged with a count of wire fraud and a count of extortion in Alabama for allegedly trying to extort more than $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for disclosing the location of her body.
Holloway was last seen in the early hours of May 30, 2005, leaving an Oranjestad, Aruba, nightclub with van der Sloot and two other men, brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. She was visiting the island with about 100 classmates to celebrate their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama.
Van der Sloot was arrested twice in Aruba in connection with Holloway's disappearance, but was never charged. He has denied responsibility for her disappearance.
In the interview, van der Sloot said he feels guilty about his father's fatal heart attack, for not listening to his mother and for telling lies, as well as his past behavior.
"I was doing a lot of things that I shouldn't have been doing, and mostly only going out all the night and sleeping all the day," he said, describing himself as "impulsive."
Asked why he's told so many different stories about the Holloway case, he said, "There were people who were paying me to make up stories, and I was really good at making up stories. Everybody keeps coming at you asking questions ... if you want something, I'll tell you whatever you want to hear, sure."
Still, he said, he has "misused the situation for my own advantage." He said he feels bad about that and would take it back if he had the opportunity.
It's a familiar refrain, said John Q. Kelly, an attorney for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty.
"He's always a victim. He's always seeking attention. He's always misunderstood and someday he's absolutely going to tell the truth," Kelly said on NBC. "...
He's a pathological liar
."
He said it was van der Sloot who contacted him about revealing the location of Holloway's body in exchange for payment. "We knew he was going to lie, and was going to make up the basis for wire fraud," Kelly said.
"It's attention-seeking behavior, as simple as that," he said. "He wants to be in the spotlight ... he just can't help himself."
Van der Sloot would not answer questions about the Flores case, saying it is "not in my best interest to talk about it at all." But he maintains police tricked him into making a confession, saying they would not let him call his mother, talk to anyone or arrange for an attorney.
Police said van der Sloot admitted that he attacked Flores, 21, on May 30 after she read an e-mail in his computer connected with the Holloway case. After killing Flores, police say, van der Sloot took money and bank cards from her wallet and fled to Chile, where he was arrested June 3.
He was returned the next day to Peru.
Asked about the extortion case, van der Sloot said, "I have had five years long that people have just been blaming me for something, and yeah, I have a lot of anger built up because of that." He said the Holloway family kept insisting he had information, and wanted to give him the money, so he thought, "I've already told a lot of different stories. I'll do it again." He added, "I know it's very wrong."
On Twitty's reaction to that statement, Kelly said, "I think in deference to Beth, I won't repeat what she said about what he had to say."
He said he isn't surprised that van der Sloot admitted the extortion, saying he has more than three weeks of e-mails between himself and van der Sloot, as well as audio and videotapes.
Van der Sloot said in the interview he wished he'd gone along with his mother's plan and sought psychiatric treatment, but instead he took the money and went to Peru to gamble, according to NBC.
Van der Sloot also spoke about Flores' family, saying, "I feel really bad that her family had to lose a daughter. It really does hurt me. I think about it all the time."
Asked if he will ever disclose what happened, he said, "When I speak to the judge, and the time is right, I'm going to tell the whole truth, absolutely."
"I've got 20 e-mails where he says he's very sorry for what happened, he's going to tell the truth, absolutely," Kelly said. "... He's just incapable of it."
He said if van der Sloot ever does tell the truth, he believes it will be out of a sense of self-preservation and fear -- not his conscience or respect for either Holloway's or his own family.
In the interview, van der Sloot acknowledged he has a "web of problems. But I created all of them myself, so yeah, I have to deal with it now, deal with the consequences."
Van der Sloot also admitted he extorted money from Holloway's family in an interview with a Dutch newspaper. His attorney in the Flores case suggested Monday that his comments may have been mis-translated.
In that interview, van der Sloot told the Telegraph he wanted to "get back at Natalee's family. Her parents have been making my life tough for years."
"When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not?'" he said.
"Maybe there were some mistakes in the translation," said attorney Maximo Alteza, who said he is not involved in the Holloway case.
Also Monday, a Peruvian court voted 2-1 to reject van der Sloot's contention that he is being held unlawfully, but the court requires three votes to secure a decision. Alteza said that a fourth jurist will hear the case and cast a vote at a public hearing next week. If that judge votes in favor of van der Sloot, a fifth judge will hear the case to break the tie.
Alteza said that van der Sloot's constitutional rights have been violated and he "could be released because of the mistakes made by the police during the investigation."
But Kelly pointed out Tuesday that if he is released, van der Sloot will be held in Alabama on the charges related to extortion.
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Quote from: klaasend on September 07, 2010, 09:45:44 AM
He's a sociopath and anyone that believes otherwise is incredibly stupid or gullible.
Without a doubt!! He is textbook psychopath!! He has no "feelings", he is incapable of it!! And whats this crap about "He's sorry Stephany's family HAD to lose a daughter"!!! WTF!!! I hate that p.o.s.
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IF
he is released???
I still cannot comprehend why there is a possibility that Joran van der Sloot would be released if the confession is thrown out. The hard evidence ... the video evidence should be enough to arrest and charge him with something in regards to the murder of Stephany.
If Joran is released ... the implication is that he will not be held accountable for his participation encompassing the deaths of both Natalee and Stephany. Murphy's Law implies the chances of this happening is very remote unless there is stuff going on behind the scenes by higher ups.
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Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage'By the CNN Wire Staff
September 7, 2010 9:11 a.m. EDT
Alteza said that van der Sloot's constitutional rights have been violated and he "could be released because of the mistakes made by the police during the investigation."
But Kelly pointed out Tuesday that
if he is released
, van der Sloot will be held in Alabama on the charges related to extortion.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/07/peru.vandersloot/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
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- Helen is very positive. "It looks good that they will remain in custody." she says. Then about three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.
"Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!
Then all the media start calling. I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul. None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor. But the word is out all over the island to the defense side that all three suspects will walk.
Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me it is indeed true.
So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.
And we are the last ones to find out.
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Is it just me or is Joran starting to look like Rudy Croes?
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Quote from: RoxiBalboa on September 07, 2010, 11:31:33 AM
Is it just me or is Joran starting to look like Rudy Croes?
I thought the same thing last night.
Remember what Private Eye said about Rudy Croes? Something to the effect of
the south end of a goat heading north.
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Well,well it looks like Joran has finally made it. He made Perez Hilton's Blog Lol He must be sooooo happy.
http://perezhilton.com/2010-09-06-ugh-joran-van-der-sloot-admits-to-extorting-money-from-natalee-holloways-parents
Ugh! Joran Van der Sloot Admits To Extorting Money From Natalee Holloway's Parents!
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Deplorable! The nerve of this guy!
Joran Van der Sloot still remains behind bars in Peru after ruthlessly murdering a 21-year-old Peruvian woman, but that hasn't stopped him from taking interviews.
Joran is more famously known for another murder, that of Natalee Holloway. For years, Natalee's parents have tried their damnedest to learn what happen to their daughter and how she was murdered. It is widely believed that Joran killed poor Natalee and though he has denied it countless times, he didn't see the harm in profiting from it. During his most recent interview from prison, Joran admitted to extorting money from Natalee Holloway's parents - for revenge!
He revealed that he vengefully accepted money from the couple, in exchange for revealing the location of Natalee's body. He explains to a Dutch newspaper:
"I wanted to get back at Natalee's family. Her parents have been making my life tough for five years. When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not?'"
Why not? WHY NOT?! How about because no matter what you've gone through the last five years, they've been going through 10 times worse! Their daughter is dead - murdered! Probably by your hands!
What audacity! We hope he gets everything he's got coming to him!
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Van der Sloot "feels guilty"
Last Update: 11:11 am today
Birmingham, Al (WIAT) Joran van der Sloot says he has no culpability for Natalee Holloway's disappearance but that he feels guilty for a lot of what he's done since.
"For everything that's happened since 2005, all the things said in the media and everything, I feel guilty for, yeah," van der Sloot, 22, said in the interview that aired on Dutch TV last night.
In the interview, conducted in his cell in Lima, Peru's Castro Castro prison, van der Sloot said he feels guilty about his father's fatal heart attack, for not listening to his mother and for telling lies, as well as his past behavior.
"I was doing a lot of things that I shouldn't have been doing, and mostly only going out all the night and sleeping all the day," he said, describing himself as "impulsive."
Van der Sloot was also asked why he's told so many different stories about Natalee Holloway's fate...including confessions with details that turned out to be fake.
"There were people who were paying me to make up stories, and I was really good at making up stories. Everybody keeps coming at you asking questions ... if you want something, I'll tell you whatever you want to hear, sure."
He went on to say he has "misused the situation for my own advantage."
Excerpts of the interview ran on the Today show followed by comments by a Holloway family attorney.
It's a familiar refrain, said John Q. Kelly, an attorney for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty.
"He's always a victim. He's always seeking attention. He's always misunderstood and someday he's absolutely going to tell the truth," Kelly said on NBC. "... He's a pathological liar."
He said it was van der Sloot who contacted him about revealing the location of Holloway's body in exchange for payment. "We knew he was going to lie, and was going to make up the basis for wire fraud," Kelly said. "It's attention-seeking behavior, as simple as that," "Hewants to be in the spotlight ... he just can't help himself."
Van der Sloot conceded in the Dutch TV interview that taking money from the Holloway family in exchange for information about Natalee's fate was a scam. He faces federal charges here in Birmingham for wire fraud and extortion.
Extradition to Alabama to face those charges is pending while van der Sloot faces murder charges in Peru in the death of 21 year old Stephany Flores, a student he met in a casino in Lima. Her body was found in van der Sloot's hotel room five years to the day of Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba.
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-feels-guilty/MATtB8P_60-1mpA0vwFzrA.cspx
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 06, 2010, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 06, 2010, 05:53:31 PM
Janet
- I don't believe Joran will be released. If by some chance Joran is released, I suspect there will be people, friends of Stephany's father that will make sure he dies. It is my opinion that right now Joran is safer in any prison than he is on the outside and I don't think he's very safe in prison.
The rational world knows that Joran is a murderer. If they didn't know 5 years ago they know now.
Klaas
I didn't think Joran and his big mouth would have lasted five years and ... I was wrong. To avoid possible exposure ... I was positive those in the Aruba/Dutch administrations ... those who participated in the cover up agenda that has prevented justice form prevailing for Natalee Holloway ... would have permanently silenced this guy by now ... silenced this guy prior to bringing them all down.
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Police Officers?
Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: And I will. I mean, you told me, one of the things you told me - this is - and what I want to do is use this with leverage is that (NAME DELETED) was paid off, and another police officer was paid off by your father.
JORAN VAN DER SLOOT: You know something, Greta, though, I don't really want to do this, actually. I don't. This is not actually what we agreed on.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html
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PATRICK: Where the f*** is she Joran?
JORAN: I don’t know precisely.
PATRICK: How is it that you don’t know?
JORAN: Yea—
PATRICK: Higher power?
JORAN: Higher power—powers
Paulus van der Sloot
Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Joran contacted us, claiming he wanted to tell us the truth about what happened that night. He produced as evidence three telephone conversations saved on a digital chip. Joran claims the recordings are conversations between his father and him. If authentic, the recording suggest that Joran told his father what happened to Natalee.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html
Holloway attorney details van der Sloot sting
updated 6/11/2010 12:58:39 PM ET
Van der Sloot and Kelly signed a contract, and van der Sloot took the lawyer on a drive to show where Holloway’s remains were. He pointed out a house and said his father had helped dispose of the body in the foundation.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37635627
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http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/nieuws/article/detail/510354/2010/09/07/Advocaat-vindt-interview-met-Joran-onbegrijpelijk.dhtml
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Lawyer: interview with Joran is incomprehensible
AMSTERDAM - The Dutch lawyer for Joran van der Sloot a mystery why circus Joran's yet again gave a performance. That said the lawyer after the television interview that Van der Sloot gave to crime reporter John van den Heuvel.
"No, it is generally not useful for defendants to seek publicity,''says
Bert de Rooij
in the Volkskrant. "There already exists a certain image and attention to help often do not.''
Van der Sloot is now, on suspicion of murder on the Peruvian girl Stephany Flores, stuck in the Peruvian Castro Castro prison in Lima. In addition, the Dutchman still seen as suspect in the disappearance case of American teenager Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in Aruba in 2005 after a night out with Van der Sloot.
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Besides known Joran, opposite Van den Heuvel, Holloway's family have been informed by, while at initiation of the family, paid to tell where he had buried body of Holloway. After an amount of $ 250,000 to have asked for information, which an advance of 25,000 in cash was paid to him, he sent the Holloway met a fob off the legs and took to Peru.
Joran gave the camera on several occasions, especially to think about himself.''Although he says is currently engaging in spiritual matters, the interview creates an image of a narcissistic young man horny on publicity. Faced with the question if Joran is addicted to attention, says lawyer The Rooij,''not to be behavioral. He would not say it publicly. 'Such publicity is not in the interest of Joran.''
'Usually not practical''
De Rooij is an interview, therefore, not normally useful.''He wants the Peruvian lawyer for Van der Sloot is not the driving wheels. "Perhaps he has something up where it just fits perfectly. Moreover, I'm not his nanny,''said the lawyer. More on the case he would not say. Fact is that since Joran in America is sought, the outpouring him there in 50 years' imprisonment may come to stand.
Joran says in the interview to have acted out of revenge. He wanted to Holloway a heel for the fact that she was five years long behind him boost. The offer made to him that the family, used in Van der Sloots street and thought, why not?''An act which he now says sorry to have. Joran himself expected, for a long time''stuck.
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Hello, Y'all!!
I just read about that multiple murder's interview; in The New York Post, he says he "feels guilty about everything"--well, that's because he IS guilty of everything. Psycho nutcase.
Oh, and when I was typing the web address to get here, I found myself typing in "smartmonkeys" instead of "scaredmonkeys"; Freudian slip.
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Dutchman's lawyer Bert de Rooij reacted with surprise to the interview with Joran van der Sloot in the Netherlands television. In this interview, Van der Sloot allegedly defrauded the parents of the girl murdered Natalee Holloway.
The appearance of Van der Sloot on camera was considered unwise by the lawyer of the Dutchman, who does not understand that the young man imprisoned in Peru has been given again to the media circus surrounding his case.
De Rooij, which represents the interests of Joran van der Sloot in the Netherlands, considered undesirable the interview given by his client to television. According to counsel, it is generally unwise for the defendants seek publicity.
"We may have talked to Joran Peruvian lawyer and this fits snugly into a plan .. I do not know anything about it and do not want to dwell on the subject, I do not want to obstruct their work. "
In the television interview (with journalist John van den Heuvel events) Joran Van der Sloot says he indicated to the parents of Natalee Holloway the place where the corpse of his daughter, for what they demanded in exchange for an upfront payment of $ 25,000. Once you pay the sum, Holloway did not come to see the young Dutchman. In the place indicated nothing was found.
In early July, Van der Sloot was accused of extortion in the United States. According to U.S. justice, demanded $ 250,000 Dutchman's mother Nathalee in return for revealing the exact spot where the body was his daughter. Van der Sloot remains the main suspect in the case of the disappearance of American teenager. For the accused Dutchman, extortion of the family of Natalee Holloway is a kind of revenge:
"I should not have, but at the time I just thought: will continue to say for five years that I know something: it makes one angry."
On the racketeering added later: "When I offered to pay me for the location of the girl, I thought, why not? It's something I now regret."
Van der Sloot has been in prison since early June in Lima, accused of killing the young Peruvian Stephany Flores. Days after Stephany was found dead in a hotel room, the fugitive Van der Sloot was arrested in Chile and extradited to the Peruvian authorities. The Dutchman, who first admitted his guilt in the murder of 21 year old, later recanted his confession.
http://www.rnw.nl/espanol/article/abogado-holandes-sorprendido-por-entrevista-de-van-der-sloot
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Yeah, another thing he always does is trip up his own lawyers (not that he ever has a chance of defense with sane people).
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Quote from: Jo-An on September 07, 2010, 12:56:46 PM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/nieuws/article/detail/510354/2010/09/07/Advocaat-vindt-interview-met-Joran-onbegrijpelijk.dhtml
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Lawyer: interview with Joran is incomprehensible
AMSTERDAM -
The Dutch lawyer for Joran van der Sloot a mystery why circus Joran's yet again gave a performance. That said the lawyer after the television interview that Van der Sloot gave to crime reporter John van den Heuvel.
"No, it is generally not useful for defendants to seek publicity,''says
Bert de Rooij
in the Volkskrant. "There already exists a certain image and attention to help often do not.''
Van der Sloot is now, on suspicion of murder on the Peruvian girl Stephany Flores, stuck in the Peruvian Castro Castro prison in Lima. In addition, the Dutchman still seen as suspect in the disappearance case of American teenager Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in Aruba in 2005 after a night out with Van der Sloot.
Holloway highlighted
Besides known Joran, opposite Van den Heuvel, Holloway's family have been informed by, while at initiation of the family, paid to tell where he had buried body of Holloway. After an amount of $ 250,000 to have asked for information, which an advance of 25,000 in cash was paid to him, he sent the Holloway met a fob off the legs and took to Peru.
Joran gave the camera on several occasions, especially to think about himself.''Although he says is currently engaging in spiritual matters, the interview creates an image of a narcissistic young man horny on publicity. Faced with the question if Joran is addicted to attention, says lawyer The Rooij,''not to be behavioral. He would not say it publicly. 'Such publicity is not in the interest of Joran.''
'Usually not practical''
De Rooij is an interview, therefore, not normally useful.''He wants the Peruvian lawyer for Van der Sloot is not the driving wheels. "Perhaps he has something up where it just fits perfectly. Moreover, I'm not his nanny,''said the lawyer. More on the case he would not say. Fact is that since Joran in America is sought, the outpouring him there in 50 years' imprisonment may come to stand.
Joran says in the interview to have acted out of revenge. He wanted to Holloway a heel for the fact that she was five years long behind him boost. The offer made to him that the family, used in Van der Sloots street and thought, why not?''An act which he now says sorry to have. Joran himself expected, for a long time''stuck.
Thanks Jo-An
It appears that attorney Maximo Alteza is attempting some damage control in regards to his client's recent interview.
Janet
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Dutch paper: Van der Sloot admits extortionBy the CNN Wire Staff
September 6, 2010 4:40 p.m. EDT
(CNN) -- Joran van der Sloot admitted in an interview with a Dutch newspaper that he extorted money from the family of Natalee Holloway, but his attorney in a Peruvian murder case suggested Monday that his client's comments may have been mistranslated.
Attorney Maximo Alteza said he is not involved in the case of Holloway, the Alabama teenager who disappeared in Aruba after going out on the town with van der Sloot, and was reluctant to comment on van der Sloot's interview with The Telegraph.
"Maybe there were some mistakes in the translation," he said. Alteza said van der Sloot was not paid for the interview.
"I wanted to get back at Natalee's family," van der Sloot said from prison in the Dutch interview. "Her parents have been making my life tough for five years."
"When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not?'" he said.
Van der Sloot faces a count of wire fraud and a count of extortion in the United States for allegedly trying to extort more than $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for the location of her body. He has denied responsibility for her disappearance.
He was arrested twice in Aruba in connection with the Holloway case but has never been charged.
The 22-year-old Dutch citizen is awaiting trial in Lima, Peru, where he stands accused of killing Stephany Flores in a hotel room.
Also Monday, a Peruvian court voted 2-1 to reject van der Sloot's contention that he is being held unlawfully, but the court requires three votes to secure a decision. Alteza said that a fourth jurist will hear the case and cast a vote at a public hearing next week. If that judge votes in favor of van der Sloot, a fifth judge will hear the case to break the tie.
Alteza said that van der Sloot's constitutional rights have been violated and he "could be released because of the mistakes made by the police during the investigation."
"It doesn't matter if he is innocent or guilty," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/06/peru.vandersloot.extortion/?hpt=T2
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Joran van der Sloot is still falling in ambiguities
States that only tell their truth about the murder of the young student to the judge.
Joran van der Sloot still seems cold, cynical and calculating. While being held for three months in prison, accused of killing the young Stephany Flores, the Dutchman continues to play with the ambiguities of his confession.
In an interview with the newspaper De Telegraaf Netherlands, and broadcast on private channel RTL4A, the alien has not denied nor agreed to be the perpetrator of the student. Once again, Van der Sloot was ambiguous when asked whether it was he who killed Flores. But he said only what his testimony given before the judge in charge of the process.
YES AND NO. As in the case of American Natalee Holloway disappeared in Aruba in 2005 - the Dutchman proved his cunning to play with the expectation of the public and the press with some confusing statements.
In the interview, Joran refused to give details of what happened on 29 May at the Miraflores hotel TAC, where he found the body of Stephany Flores.
From Holland, Ivar Penris, AD Nieuws journalist, told Perú.21 that the alleged killer said he was very sorry for the family of Flores, who was killed in the same room where he was staying. "I think what happened is horrible for the family", said since the Castro Castro prison.
His lawyer, Max Highness, said Van der Sloot admitted only declared when habeas corpus requesting the annulment of the first statement to police as illegal.
However, the Third Criminal Chamber Inmates in Jail determined that a fourth judge in open court decides if it is declared unfounded the amparo action filed by the defense of the Netherlands.
EXTORTION CONFESS. On the other hand, Joran admitted having received money from the Holloway family in exchange for revealing the whereabouts of the girl who, however, was not found in the designated area for their alleged murderer.
Van der Sloot said he did it for revenge. "They have made my life hard for five years. When offered to pay for the location of the girl, I thought, 'Why not?, But now I regret it,' "he said.
Natalee's mother come to Lima in the coming weeks to meet with Ricardo Flores, father of Stephany.
http://peru21.pe/impresa/noticia/joran-van-der-sloot-sigue-cayendo-ambiguedades/2010-09-07/284526
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2010, 11:08:11 AM
IF
he is released???
I still cannot comprehend why there is a possibility that Joran van der Sloot would be released if the confession is thrown out. The hard evidence ... the video evidence should be enough to arrest and charge him with something in regards to the murder of Stephany.
If Joran is released ... the implication is that he will not be held accountable for his participation encompassing the deaths of both Natalee and Stephany. Murphy's Law implies the chances of this happening is very remote unless there is stuff going on behind the scenes by higher ups.
IMO
Janet
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Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage'By the CNN Wire Staff
September 7, 2010 9:11 a.m. EDT
Alteza said that van der Sloot's constitutional rights have been violated and he "could be released because of the mistakes made by the police during the investigation."
But Kelly pointed out Tuesday that
if he is released
, van der Sloot will be held in Alabama on the charges related to extortion.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/07/peru.vandersloot/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
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- Helen is very positive. "It looks good that they will remain in custody." she says. Then about three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.
"Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!
Then all the media start calling. I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul. None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor. But the word is out all over the island to the defense side that all three suspects will walk.
Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me it is indeed true.
So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.
And we are the last ones to find out.
He WILL be extricated to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! WHEN he is released from prison. No matter what the outcome of his prison time in Peru. No matter what he or his attorney try to embellish - he WILL be coming to the USA at some point in his criminal life!
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