Caylee Marie Anthony #169 8/16/10 - 8/25/10

[loca]

Justice For Caylee! 

hi trim   

ok it's about  a dog handler that sent an innocent person to death row. 

Hey Sunny!
I had a video of a young boy who was interviewed when Caylee's remains were found.Talking about how wet it was there.I lost it when my laptop crashed.I just saw in posted over at InSessions. 
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371559&page=16 (hat tip Crossword)
http://www.wesh.com/video/18256239/detail.html

YES! That is the video I remember. The kid states that in the summer the whole place was filled with water! Great find!

caught a glimpse of geraldo. He is going to be talking about dogs that are used to track through scent. I think if I heard it ever so briefly !! the dog wasnt reliable and geraldo says just like the case in florida.You know what he meant. Let me see if I can get more info grrrr I dont like him.

Florida Issues: 16 cases mired in dog handler's fraud
florida-issues.blogspot.com/2009/08/16-​cases-mired-in-dog


essentialy its about dirty dog handlers due to the fact that the handler and the dog arent trained together as a result innocent people sent to prison.

[loca]

Justice For Caylee! 

hi trim   

ok it's about  a dog handler that sent an innocent person to death row. 

Hey Sunny!
I had a video of a young boy who was interviewed when Caylee's remains were found.Talking about how wet it was there.I lost it when my laptop crashed.I just saw in posted over at InSessions. 
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371559&page=16 (hat tip Crossword)
http://www.wesh.com/video/18256239/detail.html

YES! That is the video I remember. The kid states that in the summer the whole place was filled with water! Great find!

caught a glimpse of geraldo. He is going to be talking about dogs that are used to track through scent. I think if I heard it ever so briefly !! the dog wasnt reliable and geraldo says just like the case in florida.You know what he meant. Let me see if I can get more info grrrr I dont like him.

Florida Issues: 16 cases mired in dog handler's fraud
florida-issues.blogspot.com/2009/08/16-​cases-mired-in-dog


essentialy its about dirty dog handlers due to the fact that the handler and the dog arent trained together as a result innocent people sent to prison.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4315952/north-carolina-crime-lab-under-fire/

[loca]

Justice For Caylee! 

hi trim   

ok it's about  a dog handler that sent an innocent person to death row. 

Hey Sunny!
I had a video of a young boy who was interviewed when Caylee's remains were found.Talking about how wet it was there.I lost it when my laptop crashed.I just saw in posted over at InSessions. 
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371559&page=16 (hat tip Crossword)
http://www.wesh.com/video/18256239/detail.html

YES! That is the video I remember. The kid states that in the summer the whole place was filled with water! Great find!

caught a glimpse of geraldo. He is going to be talking about dogs that are used to track through scent. I think if I heard it ever so briefly !! the dog wasnt reliable and geraldo says just like the case in florida.You know what he meant. Let me see if I can get more info grrrr I dont like him.

Florida Issues: 16 cases mired in dog handler's fraud
florida-issues.blogspot.com/2009/08/16-​cases-mired-in-dog


essentialy its about dirty dog handlers due to the fact that the handler and the dog arent trained together as a result innocent people sent to prison.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4315952/north-carolina-crime-lab-under-fire/

Sorry thats all supose to  be together  didnt mean to use the  quote box.  the link beloe was  mine lol

[loca]

Justice For Caylee! 

hi trim   

ok it's about  a dog handler that sent an innocent person to death row. 

Hey Sunny!
I had a video of a young boy who was interviewed when Caylee's remains were found.Talking about how wet it was there.I lost it when my laptop crashed.I just saw in posted over at InSessions. 
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371559&page=16 (hat tip Crossword)
http://www.wesh.com/video/18256239/detail.html

YES! That is the video I remember. The kid states that in the summer the whole place was filled with water! Great find!

caught a glimpse of geraldo. He is going to be talking about dogs that are used to track through scent. I think if I heard it ever so briefly !! the dog wasnt reliable and geraldo says just like the case in florida.You know what he meant. Let me see if I can get more info grrrr I dont like him.

Florida Issues: 16 cases mired in dog handler's fraud
florida-issues.blogspot.com/2009/08/16-​cases-mired-in-dog


essentialy its about dirty dog handlers due to the fact that the handler and the dog arent trained together as a result innocent people sent to prison.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4315952/north-carolina-crime-lab-under-fire/

Sorry thats all supose to  be together  didnt mean to use the  quote box.  the link beloe was  mine lol

the link above sorry geez I need a  ::monkeywine2::lots of 

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Legal Egos?Lawyers Battle In Casey Anthony Case
08/22/10

[Ono]

Aw come on! Where are Schaeffer or Hornsby when we need them? I want a lawyer's take on what the order means. And what the defense has now that they didn't have before.

Scatty and Monks.....I received this from an attorney  involved in the case...I have removed both my name and the attorney's name for privacy sake.

Xxxxxx...all your questions are quite good. Please never be hesitant to ask and I will answer if I am at liberty to do so.

I believe the reason they want to look at the records is that they want to set up an issue for appeal if they don't get them...claiming some sort of hindrance that they couldn't conduct a full review.

 That's one reason the judge is giving them some measure of leeway.

Another reason is to simply find someone to possibly blame and try to create reasonable doubt. I think they will fall flat on both points. In fact, Judge Perry restricted them more with his last order entered yesterday, prohibiting them from releasing any information. It will be easy for the Magistrate...who is a kind of judge... to keep his eye on them. They will be in the same room at all times. MN's office will deliver and pick up the files. None will be leaving the room and remain under the watchful eye of Judge Glatt. I'm comfortable with the arrangements. What people don't want to happen is to win the battle, but lose the war. There is no relevancy to any of the unrelated searchers. The ones in the area hurt Casey's defense as they confirm the wet ground conditions. This, like all the other defense ploys, will fall flat.

Unless under subpoena, nobody is required to speak to either the Defense or the prosecution. It is voluntary for anyone to speak. Don't let everyone get ahead of themselves. Baez/Mason are a way off from being able to speak to anyone. The records have to be reviewed...which has been on the table for them for over a year...then the judge has to rule on relevancy and materiality for those other than the 32. They haven't even reached out to the 32 whose names they have had for months. If and when they do, they will hear over and over that the area was underwater. That is consistent with the scientific and forensic evidence.

If they subpoena someone, that person will be required to testify. However, for the defense to spend the time, resources and effort to do so is highly unlikely. The more they get everyone rattled over this non issue the more people are feeding into their strategy. If people who know the conditions were wet and submerged simply tell the truth...if they choose to comment...it will likely make them go away just like they did with Zanny the Nanny, the live sightings, etc.

Please get the word out so that rumors don't overtake reality.

 However, the last thing anyone wants is for a retrial upon conviction over an issue that was calculated and created by the defense team. Finding the balance to protect TES and the searchers, but to also gut the Defense from creating a fictitious issue is the balance act that has to occur.

Feel free to quote me liberally so that people understand the truth and not get distracted with non issues. If anyone chooses to speak, I can only recommend that they be completely truthful, but we are quite a way off from even making that consideration.
Hope this helps. Thanks for all that you do. Xxxx

   Thanks Sunny!

[Ono]

Justice For Caylee! 

hi trim   

Hey Sunny!
I had a video of a young boy who was interviewed when Caylee's remains were found.Talking about how wet it was there.I lost it when my laptop crashed.I just saw in posted over at InSessions. 
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371559&page=16 (hat tip Crossword)
http://www.wesh.com/video/18256239/detail.html

I remember this video!!!  He had great info about the usual conditions of the land where Caylee was found-wonder if young Charles Kelly is on the prosecutors' witness list?

[Ono]

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/casey-anthony-vs-tes-perry-issues-new.html
Saturday, August 21, 2010
Casey Anthony vs. TES: Perry Issues New Order, Second Verse, Same As The First

   Hornsby, in particular, should take a gander at this! lol ... 

[Ono]

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/casey-anthony-and-the-death-penalty-i-give-my-opinion-to-the-orlando-sentinel/
Sidebar With an Expert Capital LitigatorAboutServicesContactArchivesHome > Fact Issues - Death Penalty > Casey Anthony and the Death Penalty: I Give My Opinion to the Orlando Sentinel
Casey Anthony and the Death Penalty: I Give My Opinion to the Orlando Sentinel
Posted on August 21, 2010 by Terry Lenamon

Do you suppose that's his opinion???  LOL - just kidding ...

[Scatty]

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/casey-anthony-vs-tes-perry-issues-new.html
Saturday, August 21, 2010
Casey Anthony vs. TES: Perry Issues New Order, Second Verse, Same As The First

   Hornsby, in particular, should take a gander at this! lol ... 

Yeah, he's been unusually quiet since JP's Order was finally released. His comments were made right after the Defense presser.

[trimmonthelake]

I remember this video!!!  He had great info about the usual conditions of the land where Caylee was found-wonder if young Charles Kelly is on the prosecutors' witness list?

I don't see him listed.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/31909330/Casey-Anthony-Prosecutions-witness-list-updated-March-28-2010
Casey Anthony Prosecutions witness list updated March 28 2010

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/45753750/06302010-Amendment-to-State-Witness-List
06/30/2010 Amendment to State Witness List

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/40237174/05242010-Addition-to-State-Witness-List
05/24/2010 Addition to State Witness List

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/casey-anthony-and-the-death-penalty-i-give-my-opinion-to-the-orlando-sentinel/
Sidebar With an Expert Capital LitigatorAboutServicesContactArchivesHome > Fact Issues - Death Penalty > Casey Anthony and the Death Penalty: I Give My Opinion to the Orlando Sentinel
Casey Anthony and the Death Penalty: I Give My Opinion to the Orlando Sentinel
Posted on August 21, 2010 by Terry Lenamon

Do you suppose that's his opinion???  LOL - just kidding ...

[Ono]

Thanks for all the links;  I think Brad Conway is supposed to be on 'Watt's Up With This'  Blog Talk Radio tonight at 7 EST...

[Ono]

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/casey-anthony-vs-tes-perry-issues-new.html
Saturday, August 21, 2010
Casey Anthony vs. TES: Perry Issues New Order, Second Verse, Same As The First

   Hornsby, in particular, should take a gander at this! lol ... 

Yeah, he's been unusually quiet since JP's Order was finally released. His comments were made right after the Defense presser.

I've reached a point where the only Orlando media I read is WFTV-the others seem to be a mouthpiece for the Defense, in my opinion. 

And, yes Loca, I also caught part of Geraldo's show last night ... and came away with the same impression as you.   

[akmom]

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/casey-anthony-and-the-death-penalty-i-give-my-opinion-to-the-orlando-sentinel/
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Casey Anthony and the Death Penalty: I Give My Opinion to the Orlando Sentinel
Posted on August 21, 2010 by Terry Lenamon

Thanks trim.....I find this particular interesting.....

Why No Death Penalty for Casey Anthony?

Why?  From my perspective, and admittedly this is the viewpoint of a defense advocate speaking from years of death-qualified experience and education on mitigating factors involving mental health issues and the like, when the aggravators are balanced against the mitigators, I do not believe that the death penalty can result.  Legally, the scales don't fall that way.

involving mental health issues?????  ring a bell anyone???

Yes, same guy that originally floated the bi-polar idea, correct?

[akmom]

Aw come on! Where are Schaeffer or Hornsby when we need them? I want a lawyer's take on what the order means. And what the defense has now that they didn't have before.

Scatty and Monks.....I received this from an attorney  involved in the case...I have removed both my name and the attorney's name for privacy sake.

Xxxxxx...all your questions are quite good. Please never be hesitant to ask and I will answer if I am at liberty to do so.

I believe the reason they want to look at the records is that they want to set up an issue for appeal if they don't get them...claiming some sort of hindrance that they couldn't conduct a full review.

 That's one reason the judge is giving them some measure of leeway.

Another reason is to simply find someone to possibly blame and try to create reasonable doubt. I think they will fall flat on both points. In fact, Judge Perry restricted them more with his last order entered yesterday, prohibiting them from releasing any information. It will be easy for the Magistrate...who is a kind of judge... to keep his eye on them. They will be in the same room at all times. MN's office will deliver and pick up the files. None will be leaving the room and remain under the watchful eye of Judge Glatt. I'm comfortable with the arrangements. What people don't want to happen is to win the battle, but lose the war. There is no relevancy to any of the unrelated searchers. The ones in the area hurt Casey's defense as they confirm the wet ground conditions. This, like all the other defense ploys, will fall flat.

Unless under subpoena, nobody is required to speak to either the Defense or the prosecution. It is voluntary for anyone to speak. Don't let everyone get ahead of themselves. Baez/Mason are a way off from being able to speak to anyone. The records have to be reviewed...which has been on the table for them for over a year...then the judge has to rule on relevancy and materiality for those other than the 32. They haven't even reached out to the 32 whose names they have had for months. If and when they do, they will hear over and over that the area was underwater. That is consistent with the scientific and forensic evidence.

If they subpoena someone, that person will be required to testify. However, for the defense to spend the time, resources and effort to do so is highly unlikely. The more they get everyone rattled over this non issue the more people are feeding into their strategy. If people who know the conditions were wet and submerged simply tell the truth...if they choose to comment...it will likely make them go away just like they did with Zanny the Nanny, the live sightings, etc.

Please get the word out so that rumors don't overtake reality.

 However, the last thing anyone wants is for a retrial upon conviction over an issue that was calculated and created by the defense team. Finding the balance to protect TES and the searchers, but to also gut the Defense from creating a fictitious issue is the balance act that has to occur.

Feel free to quote me liberally so that people understand the truth and not get distracted with non issues. If anyone chooses to speak, I can only recommend that they be completely truthful, but we are quite a way off from even making that consideration.
Hope this helps. Thanks for all that you do. Xxxx

Pretty sure I have also corresponded with XXXX.  I have the utmost respect for the attorney.  He is a good man.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks Sunny and everyone for the updates 

[SunnyinTX]

Aw come on! Where are Schaeffer or Hornsby when we need them? I want a lawyer's take on what the order means. And what the defense has now that they didn't have before.

Scatty and Monks.....I received this from an attorney  involved in the case...I have removed both my name and the attorney's name for privacy sake.

Xxxxxx...all your questions are quite good. Please never be hesitant to ask and I will answer if I am at liberty to do so.

I believe the reason they want to look at the records is that they want to set up an issue for appeal if they don't get them...claiming some sort of hindrance that they couldn't conduct a full review.

 That's one reason the judge is giving them some measure of leeway.

Another reason is to simply find someone to possibly blame and try to create reasonable doubt. I think they will fall flat on both points. In fact, Judge Perry restricted them more with his last order entered yesterday, prohibiting them from releasing any information. It will be easy for the Magistrate...who is a kind of judge... to keep his eye on them. They will be in the same room at all times. MN's office will deliver and pick up the files. None will be leaving the room and remain under the watchful eye of Judge Glatt. I'm comfortable with the arrangements. What people don't want to happen is to win the battle, but lose the war. There is no relevancy to any of the unrelated searchers. The ones in the area hurt Casey's defense as they confirm the wet ground conditions. This, like all the other defense ploys, will fall flat.

Unless under subpoena, nobody is required to speak to either the Defense or the prosecution. It is voluntary for anyone to speak. Don't let everyone get ahead of themselves. Baez/Mason are a way off from being able to speak to anyone. The records have to be reviewed...which has been on the table for them for over a year...then the judge has to rule on relevancy and materiality for those other than the 32. They haven't even reached out to the 32 whose names they have had for months. If and when they do, they will hear over and over that the area was underwater. That is consistent with the scientific and forensic evidence.

If they subpoena someone, that person will be required to testify. However, for the defense to spend the time, resources and effort to do so is highly unlikely. The more they get everyone rattled over this non issue the more people are feeding into their strategy. If people who know the conditions were wet and submerged simply tell the truth...if they choose to comment...it will likely make them go away just like they did with Zanny the Nanny, the live sightings, etc.

Please get the word out so that rumors don't overtake reality.

 However, the last thing anyone wants is for a retrial upon conviction over an issue that was calculated and created by the defense team. Finding the balance to protect TES and the searchers, but to also gut the Defense from creating a fictitious issue is the balance act that has to occur.

Feel free to quote me liberally so that people understand the truth and not get distracted with non issues. If anyone chooses to speak, I can only recommend that they be completely truthful, but we are quite a way off from even making that consideration.
Hope this helps. Thanks for all that you do. Xxxx

   Thanks Sunny!

YW

[seemeatthebeach]

Thanks for all the links;  I think Brad Conway is supposed to be on 'Watt's Up With This'  Blog Talk Radio tonight at 7 EST...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this

HE SUDDENLY RESIGNED FROM REPRESENTING THE PARENTS OF CASEY ANTHONY- ACCUSED IN THE MURDER OF HER DAUGHTER CAYLEE ANTHONY. BUT WHY? WHAT REALLY HAPPENED? AND WHAT DOES BRAD NOW THINK OF THE GEORGE AND CINDY ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY AND JOSE BAEZ. AND HOW HAS THIS CASE AFFECTED BRAD'S LIFE AND HIS BUSINESS? JOIN US FOR THIS CANDID CONVERSATION AND INSIGHT INTO THE CASEY ANTHONY CASE.

[Scatty]

Aw come on! Where are Schaeffer or Hornsby when we need them? I want a lawyer's take on what the order means. And what the defense has now that they didn't have before.

Scatty and Monks.....I received this from an attorney  involved in the case...I have removed both my name and the attorney's name for privacy sake.

Xxxxxx...all your questions are quite good. Please never be hesitant to ask and I will answer if I am at liberty to do so.

I believe the reason they want to look at the records is that they want to set up an issue for appeal if they don't get them...claiming some sort of hindrance that they couldn't conduct a full review.

 That's one reason the judge is giving them some measure of leeway.

Another reason is to simply find someone to possibly blame and try to create reasonable doubt. I think they will fall flat on both points. In fact, Judge Perry restricted them more with his last order entered yesterday, prohibiting them from releasing any information. It will be easy for the Magistrate...who is a kind of judge... to keep his eye on them. They will be in the same room at all times. MN's office will deliver and pick up the files. None will be leaving the room and remain under the watchful eye of Judge Glatt. I'm comfortable with the arrangements. What people don't want to happen is to win the battle, but lose the war. There is no relevancy to any of the unrelated searchers. The ones in the area hurt Casey's defense as they confirm the wet ground conditions. This, like all the other defense ploys, will fall flat.

Unless under subpoena, nobody is required to speak to either the Defense or the prosecution. It is voluntary for anyone to speak. Don't let everyone get ahead of themselves. Baez/Mason are a way off from being able to speak to anyone. The records have to be reviewed...which has been on the table for them for over a year...then the judge has to rule on relevancy and materiality for those other than the 32. They haven't even reached out to the 32 whose names they have had for months. If and when they do, they will hear over and over that the area was underwater. That is consistent with the scientific and forensic evidence.

If they subpoena someone, that person will be required to testify. However, for the defense to spend the time, resources and effort to do so is highly unlikely. The more they get everyone rattled over this non issue the more people are feeding into their strategy. If people who know the conditions were wet and submerged simply tell the truth...if they choose to comment...it will likely make them go away just like they did with Zanny the Nanny, the live sightings, etc.

Please get the word out so that rumors don't overtake reality.

 However, the last thing anyone wants is for a retrial upon conviction over an issue that was calculated and created by the defense team. Finding the balance to protect TES and the searchers, but to also gut the Defense from creating a fictitious issue is the balance act that has to occur.

Feel free to quote me liberally so that people understand the truth and not get distracted with non issues. If anyone chooses to speak, I can only recommend that they be completely truthful, but we are quite a way off from even making that consideration.
Hope this helps. Thanks for all that you do. Xxxx

   Thanks Sunny!

YW

  How did I miss that post? And it was a long one too. Thanks Sunny. But now I'm so curious. Thinking... thinking...