Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #18 8/11/10 - 8/13/10

[Wyks]

I, for one, would not even have known who Jason was, if HE had not chosen to do an interview and bring his PROOF.

Some folks are just..... too darn helpful.   

[Wyks]

If you want to see what others would find just Google yourself

Oh gosh, isn't that the truth!  I googled myself once, from curiousity.  Found me, my bio aunt, whom I am named after.  And another one with the same first and last name. 

Porn queen and author that she is.    


Think that didn't make me gulp a few times and worry about my career as a LCSW in family practice, at the time?  Might have hastened my heart condition and subsequent early retirement.  lol.. Nawwww. 

But that's not me folks!  Honest.  Truly.   

dang it.  would have loved to have the $$ tho. 

Oh I google myself and a teen miss usa comes up and she is from my same home town and a porn star!!!!!!  for real....

LOL!!!!!!! 

[Wyks]

D in Texas an informant ? I don't know ..you've got brain going .. I know what your saying, I think I broke my brain on my last post ........

I was working on it since the post before ..  for hours...   I for some reason cannot let that stupid " Message" go .... its haunting me. Its a taunt message, that I think Kaine could have a clue who wrote it .. It's very personal and hateful.
Could Kaine have pixxed off an employee/co-worker ( that was known to TH via his Intel position) he is Management isn't he ? Or manages a group within his position at Intel ? Or a  laid off /fired Intel employee that worked with Kaine that Terri was playing hide the squirrel with ? I think she would love to get close to a guy ( Use for her benefit) that worked near or under Kaine. That it is speculated that Kaine was having an affair with a co-worker... OMG these Adults just slay me .. Poor Kyron. 

http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Intel-Corporation
lot's of info about the history of Intel link above.
 

Well Deenie.  All that hard work may not be for naught.  We save stuff to a file, and wait for the time more facts in this case come out.  Facts that may help to know if what we may have is part of the case ..... or not.  This wouldn't be the first time several of us who 'research' have had to sit on info and... wait. 

And me, not a patient person.  It sux. 

[seemeatthebeach]

Incoming ........whew
Why am I bringing this up .. because I can't seem to forget it. With all the allegations of Terri having " Friends" in her corner and DeDe too ..with all the questions in everyone's mind.. Where is Kyron.  I am looking at this, thinking it was written by someone that knows something. Not of just a twisted sicko wanting to grab ppl's attention.  If you remove the emotional text and break it down. It could actually mean something.
* see me in another time and place ( does this mean Time zone difference?) notice it does not say " Find me" it says See Me. ( does this mean distance? as in miles away)
 "see me" remove "in another" Time and Place
 I   know She De  am safe  Pop
--
I think it is De not Dad. * if you look at the e in time .. and a in Daddy..
--
The " I " next to am safe - is like the symbol next to kisses ..it has a weird wave at the bottom. Which makes me think of Water. Which Terri is the sign of Pisces d.o.b. 3/17
The Sign of Pisces: http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/11/116.html
--
The word Pop used. To me it means something other than Dad, Daddy, Father.
http://thesaurus.com/browse/pop
Main Entry:   pop Synonyms:    burst, crack, explosion, jump, leap, report, snap, strike, thrust, whack
Main Entry: camp Campy? Pop ?
Synonyms:    Daliesque, affected, arch, artificial, avant-garde, far out, in, mannered, mod, ostentatious, pop , posturing, wild
Main Entry: crack Synonyms: fling, go, opportunity, pop , shot, stab, try, whack, whirl
--
The word Safe, to me looks like " Sape". 
Sapient Corporation (Public, NASDAQ: SAPE) Which is a huge IT corporation that is in every corner of the world. In 2009, Sapient created a partnership with a huge IT company in Portland. Its called Jive Software. " Social Networking" http://www.sapient.com/en-us/News/Press-Releases/a976.html  Sapient supports Jive’s Social Business Software 3.0, a breakthrough new application that debuts today, March 10, 2009. These initiatives include creating and managing enterprise-wide social networking deployments, online developer communities, executive blogging and public online communities. 
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I know this seems like a bunch of ' who's and what's and grasping' ..but at this time, there is not much to go on. With everyone  " suspect" or within this family - they all have IT backgrounds. I feel this message was written for Kaine's benefit/personal/to dig/hurt him. Makes you wonder if Kaine has any haters out there, that would participate with TH/DDS to hurt Kyron.. a twisted circle of peeps? ( ?? this person knows TH/DDS & took an opportunity to hurt Kaine with this message? whoever wrote this, they (possibly) know Kaine/TH/Dede) His brother being IT and being a newly found out SO. With the economy as it is today, Corps only need so many IT professionals. They keep the cream of the crop and then come the layoffs .. Laid off your sitting with thousands with the same qualifications. Jobless and maybe even a bit ticked off at Kaine.. grasping yes, at this point though ..  People do stupid things in desperate times, especially when they are bank rolling a high salary and lose it over night.. again tilts back to $$$ ...gains/rewards .. Marc Klaas said that once on NG. When he was able to speak. He said that some perps will hold a child, waiting for the Bounty/reward go to up.. that if the reward is to double or increase, it should be held private. That it only offers up a reason for a perp to sit and wait and continue to hold the child/victim more $$$.. makes sense to me.    Where is Kyron ?
 

I was going to compare the writing from the love letters DeDe wrote to her ex boyfriend Jason, but the writing is blurred too much in the screenshots.

[cw618]

If you want to see what others would find just Google yourself

there is a me in portland oregon, 40 usa 16 out of country
dam i get around

[nana0567]

Incoming ........whew
Why am I bringing this up .. because I can't seem to forget it. With all the allegations of Terri having " Friends" in her corner and DeDe too ..with all the questions in everyone's mind.. Where is Kyron.  I am looking at this, thinking it was written by someone that knows something. Not of just a twisted sicko wanting to grab ppl's attention.  If you remove the emotional text and break it down. It could actually mean something.
* see me in another time and place ( does this mean Time zone difference?) notice it does not say " Find me" it says See Me. ( does this mean distance? as in miles away)
 "see me" remove "in another" Time and Place
 I   know She De  am safe  Pop
--
I think it is De not Dad. * if you look at the e in time .. and a in Daddy..
--
The " I " next to am safe - is like the symbol next to kisses ..it has a weird wave at the bottom. Which makes me think of Water. Which Terri is the sign of Pisces d.o.b. 3/17
The Sign of Pisces: http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/11/116.html
--
The word Pop used. To me it means something other than Dad, Daddy, Father.
http://thesaurus.com/browse/pop
Main Entry:   pop Synonyms:    burst, crack, explosion, jump, leap, report, snap, strike, thrust, whack
Main Entry: camp Campy? Pop ?
Synonyms:    Daliesque, affected, arch, artificial, avant-garde, far out, in, mannered, mod, ostentatious, pop , posturing, wild
Main Entry: crack Synonyms: fling, go, opportunity, pop , shot, stab, try, whack, whirl
--
The word Safe, to me looks like " Sape". 
Sapient Corporation (Public, NASDAQ: SAPE) Which is a huge IT corporation that is in every corner of the world. In 2009, Sapient created a partnership with a huge IT company in Portland. Its called Jive Software. " Social Networking" http://www.sapient.com/en-us/News/Press-Releases/a976.html  Sapient supports Jive’s Social Business Software 3.0, a breakthrough new application that debuts today, March 10, 2009. These initiatives include creating and managing enterprise-wide social networking deployments, online developer communities, executive blogging and public online communities. 
_
I know this seems like a bunch of ' who's and what's and grasping' ..but at this time, there is not much to go on. With everyone  " suspect" or within this family - they all have IT backgrounds. I feel this message was written for Kaine's benefit/personal/to dig/hurt him. Makes you wonder if Kaine has any haters out there, that would participate with TH/DDS to hurt Kyron.. a twisted circle of peeps? ( ?? this person knows TH/DDS & took an opportunity to hurt Kaine with this message? whoever wrote this, they (possibly) know Kaine/TH/Dede) His brother being IT and being a newly found out SO. With the economy as it is today, Corps only need so many IT professionals. They keep the cream of the crop and then come the layoffs .. Laid off your sitting with thousands with the same qualifications. Jobless and maybe even a bit ticked off at Kaine.. grasping yes, at this point though ..  People do stupid things in desperate times, especially when they are bank rolling a high salary and lose it over night.. again tilts back to $$$ ...gains/rewards .. Marc Klaas said that once on NG. When he was able to speak. He said that some perps will hold a child, waiting for the Bounty/reward go to up.. that if the reward is to double or increase, it should be held private. That it only offers up a reason for a perp to sit and wait and continue to hold the child/victim more $$$.. makes sense to me.    Where is Kyron ?
 

I was going to compare the writing from the love letters DeDe wrote to her ex boyfriend Jason, but the writing is blurred too much in the screenshots.

That's a good idea...if it can be done somehow. It definitely looks like a women's hand writing.

[Lucky7]

Why does that woman have an apple on her head?  Is she waiting for William Tell?

i thought the same thing, so is will tell involved
 

Maybe it's a sign.  That SHE is the one who... will tell... ??   

her favorite word is Dude.she said it over and over and over, it drove me crazy

so now dude will tell

haha thats pretty funny cuz the girl she calls Dude all the time goes by kissmyaster!hahaaaaa

[Tamikosmom]

I, for one, would not even have known who Jason was, if HE had not chosen to do an interview and bring his PROOF.

EXACTLY!!

Considering the networks do not pay for interviews ... it is the network's negotiated rights to those letters and photos that would afford Jason the big bucks.

What is the criteria on the missing persons forums for speculation in regards to those who have a connections to the main suspects.  Girlfriends are fair game but not an educated Christian ex-boyfriend?
 
Jason is connected to DeDe through a past romantic relationship as well as  ... through a trade.  Jason is connected to ministries which have a mission to save children at risk.  Jason calls attention to himself by appear on the Today Show.  Why?

In all probability ... this guy has a heart of gold but ... a little boy is missing and ... in my opinion ... in the process of elimination ... LE should be questioning Jason.  Justice for Kyron demands it.

Hey ... in all probability ... this guy has a heart of gold.

Janet



 

[Babybear]

If you want to see what others would find just Google yourself

I'm afraid to.

At least Google doesn't know about the bodies buried in the basement.

Hey, how did you find out about those bodies?

[Lucky7]

I, for one, would not even have known who Jason was, if HE had not chosen to do an interview and bring his PROOF.

EXACTLY!!

Considering the networks do not pay for interviews ... it is the network's negotiated rights to those letters and photos that would afford Jason the big bucks.

What is the criteria on the missing persons forums for speculation in regards to those who have a connections to the main suspects.  Girlfriends are fair game but not an educated Christian ex-boyfriend?
 
Jason is connected to DeDe through a past romantic relationship as well as  ... through a trade.  Jason is connected to ministries which have a mission to save children at risk.  Jason calls attention to himself by appear on the Today Show.  Why?

In all probability ... this guy has a heart of gold but ... a little boy is missing and ... in my opinion ... in the process of elimination ... LE should be questioning Jason.  Justice for Kyron demands it.

Hey ... in all probability ... this guy has a heart of gold.

Janet



 

speaking of that did Jason ever say anything about Kyron?did he say he prays he comes home safe or anything?

[d in texas]

Another I can't believe they just said that support page moment for all>>>

Amber Salgado-Pinard hahaha i got deleted from terri's fan page becuz i posted this::::

i don't know if she did or didn't. but who makes a support page for Terri? shouldn't there but a support page for Ky instead? seems a little to ohh poor me, its all about me.... Go help search for your step son. Go talk to police, stop lying. cuz we all know u failed 2 poly's. This is a little boy who had nothing to do with her or his fathers marriage problems. and for her to take it out on a poor innocent child is discusting. she needs to stop being shadey and a snake in the grass. now in my book she is GUILTY until proven INNOCENT. She did it and now her "best friend" is going to turn on her. HA so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
=============================
DeDe won't turn on her because Terri didn't do anything for her to turn on.  And immunity just means you don't have to testify, she is just going to say I don't recall.

[Deenie]

(((((((((((((((((((((( ))))))))))))))
Group HUG>>>>>>>>>>>>ah that felt good....

I think we have all seen this before it is frustration over a little 7 year old boy who's fate is in the hand of two women who don't seem to give a rat's a** about him.....
LE is not showing anything solid and we fear that they don't know anymore than we do....

I still believe Kyron is alive and hidden somewhere I really do, I don't think these two are about killing someone, and the CSI movements they have made show hope to me....

I think that Kyron is " more valuable" Alive then he is deceased. That is why these crack pot red heads ..are sitting with mouths shut. They know something. They know what is going on and they like it this way. " Silent"  Otherwise they would have offered up public statements. Or would have participated in searches for Kyron. Did Kaine or Desiree go out and " get into the searches themselves? " 

I know that Marc Klaas said he did not participate in searching for Polly ..because he said if he were to be the one who found her body.. he would literally Die.  ( I think though they/LE had significant evidence at that time that Polly was deceased)

Terri has lost her most precious ( lifetime} achievement - Kiara to her husband ( no love loss there)  He/Kaine has Kiara and she is not willing to talk ??? (more than likely he will gain full custody of her)   To me that screams - Kyron is Alive.
Would she hurt Kyron risking Kiara forever ?   I don't know. She has dug such a hole for herself ...... but then anything is possible. Maybe hurting Kaine was " bigger/greater" more meaningful to her than Kiara. She Wins. Well " did she count her losses? "
Her Daughter, Kyron, Her Freedom ?  Makes no sense what so ever... none of it.

What Man would be worth losing your (rights/custody) little baby to? Would not filing for Divorce been the obvious? She would have been able to keep Kiara, the house for awhile, have monetary support for Kiara.. get up on her feet ..and leave of her own free will. Even if she had to move back with her parents. Oh I forgot that is rational behavior, for a 40 yr old woman. Or for any age .. 
Big Red Truck - If she would have filed for Divorce, she would have come out "way better off " than Her wasting away in a miserable marriage..plotting. 
((something tells me her's not playing with a full deck)) 
 

[Deenie]

D in Texas an informant ? I don't know ..you've got brain going .. I know what your saying, I think I broke my brain on my last post ........

I was working on it since the post before ..  for hours...   I for some reason cannot let that stupid " Message" go .... its haunting me. Its a taunt message, that I think Kaine could have a clue who wrote it .. It's very personal and hateful.
Could Kaine have pixxed off an employee/co-worker ( that was known to TH via his Intel position) he is Management isn't he ? Or manages a group within his position at Intel ? Or a  laid off /fired Intel employee that worked with Kaine that Terri was playing hide the squirrel with ? I think she would love to get close to a guy ( Use for her benefit) that worked near or under Kaine. That it is speculated that Kaine was having an affair with a co-worker... OMG these Adults just slay me .. Poor Kyron. 

http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Intel-Corporation
lot's of info about the history of Intel link above.
 

Well Deenie.  All that hard work may not be for naught.  We save stuff to a file, and wait for the time more facts in this case come out.  Facts that may help to know if what we may have is part of the case ..... or not.  This wouldn't be the first time several of us who 'research' have had to sit on info and... wait. 

And me, not a patient person.  It sux. 

Wyks (( hug)) thank you .. I figure heck even if it doesn't make sense .. the pieces may fit with another Monkey's thoughts ..that it might turn a light on .. of OOOoo I have something to add. It's all a big giant puzzle ...... for now.

[Claycat]

If you want to see what others would find just Google yourself

there is a me in portland oregon, 40 usa 16 out of country
dam i get around

LOL!  I just found someone with my maiden name in Oregon.  She is an artist, too, so I sent her an email.  I also found a me who is a realtor in Montana.  I sent her an email, too!  LOL

[akmom]

Ok, I Googled my name and my monkey name.....none of them were me, yippeee!!!!  BUT, if I ever go missing PLEASE will all of you monkeys pull out
ALL  of the stops and FIND ME...I am sure you can do it!!!!!  Just sayin

[Deenie]

Ok, I Googled my name and my monkey name.....none of them were me, yippeee!!!!  BUT, if I ever go missing PLEASE will all of you monkeys pull out
ALL  of the stops and FIND ME...I am sure you can do it!!!!!  Just sayin

Let's hope you never become Lost AK 

[txlisa]

Another I can't believe they just said that support page moment for all>>>

Amber Salgado-Pinard hahaha i got deleted from terri's fan page becuz i posted this::::

i don't know if she did or didn't. but who makes a support page for Terri? shouldn't there but a support page for Ky instead? seems a little to ohh poor me, its all about me.... Go help search for your step son. Go talk to police, stop lying. cuz we all know u failed 2 poly's. This is a little boy who had nothing to do with her or his fathers marriage problems. and for her to take it out on a poor innocent child is discusting. she needs to stop being shadey and a snake in the grass. now in my book she is GUILTY until proven INNOCENT. She did it and now her "best friend" is going to turn on her. HA so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
=============================
DeDe won't turn on her because Terri didn't do anything for her to turn on.  And immunity just means you don't have to testify, she is just going to say I don't recall.

The Terri Horman Support page people are a piece of work! 

[darla]

(((((((((((((((((((((( ))))))))))))))
Group HUG>>>>>>>>>>>>ah that felt good....

I think we have all seen this before it is frustration over a little 7 year old boy who's fate is in the hand of two women who don't seem to give a rat's a** about him.....
LE is not showing anything solid and we fear that they don't know anymore than we do....

I still believe Kyron is alive and hidden somewhere I really do, I don't think these two are about killing someone, and the CSI movements they have made show hope to me....

I think that Kyron is " more valuable" Alive then he is deceased. That is why these crack pot red heads ..are sitting with mouths shut. They know something. They know what is going on and they like it this way. " Silent"  Otherwise they would have offered up public statements. Or would have participated in searches for Kyron. Did Kaine or Desiree go out and " get into the searches themselves? " 

I know that Marc Klaas said he did not participate in searching for Polly ..because he said if he were to be the one who found her body.. he would literally Die.  ( I think though they/LE had significant evidence at that time that Polly was deceased)

Terri has lost her most precious ( lifetime} achievement - Kiara to her husband ( no love loss there)  He/Kaine has Kiara and she is not willing to talk ??? (more than likely he will gain full custody of her)   To me that screams - Kyron is Alive.
Would she hurt Kyron risking Kiara forever ?   I don't know. She has dug such a hole for herself ...... but then anything is possible. Maybe hurting Kaine was " bigger/greater" more meaningful to her than Kiara. She Wins. Well " did she count her losses? "
Her Daughter, Kyron, Her Freedom ?  Makes no sense what so ever... none of it.

What Man would be worth losing your (rights/custody) little baby to? Would not filing for Divorce been the obvious? She would have been able to keep Kiara, the house for awhile, have monetary support for Kiara.. get up on her feet ..and leave of her own free will. Even if she had to move back with her parents. Oh I forgot that is rational behavior, for a 40 yr old woman. Or for any age .. 
Big Red Truck - If she would have filed for Divorce, she would have come out "way better off " than Her wasting away in a miserable marriage..plotting. 
((something tells me her's not playing with a full deck)) 
 

Deenie, you took the words right out of my mouth., I was just thinking the same thing.  All her friends are going on and on about what aq super Mom she was....duh , her son james was moved out of the house..... when my child is not welcome somewhere, this moma would be packiing her bags too. I would have left with my kids and told him I would see him in court. No man will ever mean more to me than my kids.
I think Terri and DeDe are a few fries short of a Happy Meal. After seeing the letters and cards with kisses on them from DeDe to Jason, I don't think either DDS and TH ever grew up.

How many of you would send your child 4 hrs away and stay in the same house with the man you accuse of sending him away?

[akmom]

Ok, I Googled my name and my monkey name.....none of them were me, yippeee!!!!  BUT, if I ever go missing PLEASE will all of you monkeys pull out
ALL  of the stops and FIND ME...I am sure you can do it!!!!!  Just sayin

Let's hope you never become Lost AK 

S'OK, I'm already lost in AK  LOLOLOLOL!!!!

[Deenie]

Running with the script on the handwritten message - left on Kyron's wall..

The sentence of " you will see me in another time and place" 
searching my brains out with those words - I am only throwing this out because ' ya never know'
Chasing the words " Another Time and Place" Oregon.

I came up with a real estate site. Honestly I am not sure what kind of site it is. Maybe for " Vacations" ... my search led me to this page: http://www.coastaloregonranch.com/history.htm
not the home page of the site.  Its a ranch in the middle of God's Country Oregon. Titled " Another Time and Place" Otter Point State Park Golds Beach.

My other chase led me to this site, thinking about that " water like wave scrawled on the message next to the word kisses" thinking it was a symbol / sign of water ?

There is a " Sign" that has a wave like graphic on it - Its a State Park Sign. Go to the link and you will see the sign. Its very unique. I chased every " Water/swimming/fishing/lake/River" sign for State parks .. thinking of  Sauvie Island.
Keizer Rapids Regional Community Park
http://www.cooperativeconservation.org/viewproject.asp?pid=350
A New Community Park along the Willamette River
Location: Far West Region: Oregon
Project Summary: The Keizer Rapids Park demonstrates how the Willamette American Heritage Rivers Initiative works with local partners to provide leverage for projects and build community capacity.
Resource Challenge
The Keizer Rapids Park will benefit several species including the endangered Western pond turtle and the Red-legged frog within the Willamette riparian ecosystem, and has ecological significance for the Willamette Basin.
  Frog Power ~ Kyron