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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #19 8/13/10 - 8/15/10  (Read 235901 times)
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« Reply #840 on: August 15, 2010, 01:34:17 PM »

looked at the wiki post, thanks. yes I can see some people having a problem with them. I wonder if they get blamed for a lot of things?
But why does this person not like Terri? Is it because there has been some discussion about her possibly having a relationship with DeDe? I am curious if there are any extreme groups who go after this place a lot and target them? Any locals know?

well dede posted something re to The Pink Triangle pointed at Kaine out of hate for him.
I was like.... what the heck is pink triangle.. so many groups..
Dunno if someone else posted this as I am just catching up, but the pink triangle was a Nazi symbol to identify gay men during WW2. A pink triangle pointing at him in anger would maybe be pointing the finger at his sexuality. Just a thought.
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« Reply #841 on: August 15, 2010, 01:39:12 PM »

Does anyone believe that something bigger like a child porn ring is happening in this case.  Child and porn are two words that should never, ever be in the same room let alone world together.  I am still having a hard time processing the fact TH might have done away with him.  I don't think I can go there.  Misty yes/maybe part of, Casey definately yes but TH I'm havin a hard time with.

I wonder if Terri actually did make a porn movie in 2001.
Even if she did way back then, I don't understand what this has to do with Kyron? Now a child porn ring is a whole other matter. Do some here think that Terri may have a connection to something like that?  I've been wrong many times, but I just can't see this, but I suppose anything can happen.
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« Reply #842 on: August 15, 2010, 01:41:36 PM »

Good Morning Monkeys!

Going back to the video, this person is really cryptic in his words. I was trying to figure out what he meant by the Black SUV. The black Suv seen in the mirror places you at the location of NWNewberry Cell phone ping I don't know if this video means anything, but I certainly don't want to assume anything. As they say: No stone left unturned. When I googled his name I found this.

http://interceder.net/i/kyron

Ssangyong Kyron
The SsangYong Kyron is a compact 'soft-roader' SUV (although it is quite big for its class) built by SsangYong Motor Company. It has a 104 kW (139 hp)/310 N·m (230 lb·ft) Mercedes-Benz diesel engine and was designed by MG's Ken Greenly. It is presumed to share its body and/or platform with the upcoming Roewe SUV. In 2007, the Kyron received a facelift in an attempt to take on board the criticism of the previous version and improve the company's image. In the 2009 Dakar Rally, Isidre Esteve Pujol and team mate Eric Auge Medina came 81st in a Kyron 2.7DCI. The robust XDi270 diesel engine is available on the Kyron increasing the performance to 121 kW (162 hp)/340 N·m (250 lb·ft).




Wait a minute...I may be mistaken but wasn't there a Blk SUV seen by the man who called in a tip who said he went to a store and heard gunshots coming from the direction of some parked cars he had seen?  I've got this all jumbled I'm sure but the SUV hit another car or something?

August 3, 2010 - Kyron Horman Update: One Tipster’s Startling Suspicions, and Frustration - Investigators in the case of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman say they’ve sorted through more than 3,500 tips in the nearly two-month investigation. Here’s an example of one such tip, forwarded today to WW by former Sheriff’s Capt. Bruce McCain. McCain says he’s brought the tip to investigators’ attention and is told they are finally following up on it.

Here’s the main portion of an email McCain sent:

This morning around 9:00 am I received a telephone call from Mark DeWitt, a 51-year old single farmer who lives in Riddle, Oregon. … When I took his call he expressed relief in “finally talking to a human” after leaving unanswered calls to the MCSO tip line. I told him I no longer worked at MCSO and I am not part of the investigation at all. He understood that but asked me to pass this info along to the authorities.
DeWitt told me he was driving on 99W near Junction City around noon on Wednesday, June 9–the same day Captain Mike Shults delivered his press statement without the families present. DeWitt said a white pick-up truck driven by a female with brown or reddish hair came up fast behind him. He noticed in his rear view mirror that a boy with short dark hair and glasses kept popping his head up in the front seat, only to have the driver push his head down. The pick-up passed DeWitt and turned on a gravel road near an old mill site in or near the town of Monroe, Oregon. DeWitt said the pickup turned onto a side road where it stopped to meet a “cranberry” color sedan from which a heavy set red head female and a male wearing a baseball cap emerged. DeWitt said the pickup driver got out and took the boy into a heavily wooded area where they were followed by the other two–with the male carrying a shovel he removed from the sedan trunk.
DeWitt continued into town where he stopped at a gas station to ask for directions to his destination, which I think was a grain elevator for seed. While out of his vehicle, DeWitt said he heard what sounded like a single gun shot coming from the general vicinity of where he saw the three adults and boy. DeWitt then said he later pulled into a rest area on 99W to use the rest room. As he was heading back onto the road, he was behind a slow moving motor home that was pulling onto the highway. DeWitt said he then saw the pickup again speeding with the sedan behind it about to collide with the motor home. He said the truck slammed on its brakes and barely stopped short of colliding with the motor home, but the sedan skidded and collided with the rear of the white pickup. DeWitt said it was not a major crash, but the sedan might have some slight front end damage and the pickup might show signs of a “paint swap” in the rear.
DeWitt said he does not watch much television and did not put all of these pieces together until he started following the Kyron story on the news. He said he has called the tip line three times, but with no answer. He also said he reported the incident to a “Eugene Deputy” (not sure if Eugene PD or Lane County Sheriff) shortly thereafter, but before he realized the possible significance of what he saw. I asked him what he wanted me to do with this information and he just wants a “real person” to go check the area – which he says he has since revisited. I told him that’s not a good idea since it might be a crime scene.
I had to leave for another appointment but I called him back around 12:45 while on the road. I asked him if he knew I was an attorney and he said No, he only saw me described as a retired MCSO Captain. I wanted to verify he was not seeking legal advice or representation and we agreed there never was any lawyer-client relationship established. I told him I would pass his story on to someone I knew “high up” in the investigation. But I also told him that one reason why he might not have received a call back is that investigators knew where Terri and the pickup were around 12 noon on Wednesday, June 9. http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/08/...d-frustration/
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« Reply #843 on: August 15, 2010, 01:47:14 PM »

Thanks...I went back and looked too and nope, no Blk SUV there.  It was a motor home, sedan and cranberry van.  Oh well, I remember one from somewhere.  Just don't know where.  I had better leave the 'sleutherizing' to smarter Monkeys than me! lol!  Gotta go now, hope for good news later.
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« Reply #844 on: August 15, 2010, 01:47:36 PM »

 

1.  Andrea said that the baby was sick on June 3.  Does that mean Terri went to the gym June 3 and didn't being the baby?  Andrea could have been working that day and that's why she knew that the baby was sick.

2.  I think June 3 is an important day.  I wonder if Terri's cell phone pings are conflicting on June 3 and that's where the Sauvie Island search came from.

3.  I think the new lens comes from bat phones, GJ testimony or Dede info.

4.  I am wondering what the relationship between Dede and Terri is?  Dede seems to be into alternative type things-food, gardening.

Terri doesn't seem to be into much.  I wonder if Terri and Dede have a "thing" or if Dede jumped on the bandwagon to help poor Terri because she's abused or whatever.

Otherwise, I just don't see them being simpatico.
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« Reply #845 on: August 15, 2010, 01:50:11 PM »

One of the things that DY said against TH sticks out to me. She said something to the affect that TH tels lies both big and small. In other words DY is saying that anything TH says must be questioned as a potential lie.
I took that as a direct way lay to anything and everything TH says and deem her words as questionable.
DY mentioned something about a bee sting. What about a bee sting? What bee sting? Is there any reference to Kyron being stung by a bee anywhere?
We have heard that he is allergic to bee stings. Where is there any reference from TH that Kyron was stung by a bee?

Was this alleged bee sting something that was discussed in an email from TH to DY? If so was this particular email called in as evidence by the GJ?

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« Reply #846 on: August 15, 2010, 01:51:08 PM »

Snipped from Terri's "support page"

If you'd like to donate, you can send a donation to
Terri Moulton Horman
c/o Unity Church of Roseburg
P O Box 1381
...Roseburg, OR 97470

Unbelievable!

Good morning Monkey's,

Her parents are dignified, respectable retired school teachers. They must be a bit embarrassed by SM accepting charity.

She needs a car and a place to live, how pleasant can it be to move home after THREE divorces?  IMO





I feel sorry for her parents. 
I used to attend a Unity church myself, but I have read that some have been infiltrated by people with nefarious intentions. Morgan Harrington and her family were also members of a Unity church, not that it necessarily has to do with anything. Just making a note of it. I loved many things about it, as they truly teach tolerance of all, but some aspects they delved into concerned me and I stopped attending.
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« Reply #847 on: August 15, 2010, 01:54:57 PM »


I think it's interesting that instead of running right out and hiring some well-known Criminal Defense attorney... Dede instead, hired Chad Stavley.  He is noted for being a Personal Injury attorney. 

An attorney such as this would handle cases such as: slander, defamation and libel. 

Kind of shows where she may expect the direction of a needed defense to go in? 

 

http://www.oregonaccidentattorney.com/

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« Reply #848 on: August 15, 2010, 01:57:44 PM »



1.  Andrea said that the baby was sick on June 3.  Does that mean Terri went to the gym June 3 and didn't being the baby?  Andrea could have been working that day and that's why she knew that the baby was sick.

2.  I think June 3 is an important day.  I wonder if Terri's cell phone pings are conflicting on June 3 and that's where the Sauvie Island search came from.

3.  I think the new lens comes from bat phones, GJ testimony or Dede info.

4.  I am wondering what the relationship between Dede and Terri is?  Dede seems to be into alternative type things-food, gardening.

Terri doesn't seem to be into much.  I wonder if Terri and Dede have a "thing" or if Dede jumped on the bandwagon to help poor Terri because she's abused or whatever.

Otherwise, I just don't see them being simpatico.
I have no idea exactly what Terri and DeDe have going, but seriously that is the only think that I can come up with, "a thing" between the two of them. I just don't see a friend, that Kaine even said didn't come around the house that much, to help like this. And I have no idea how much DeDe even helped Terri with?
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« Reply #849 on: August 15, 2010, 01:58:15 PM »

Again, I mention the comment from DY that states that in her opinion TH tells lies both big and small. Then we are told that in DY's opinion TH apparently lied about a bee sting.
Is that a lie that is big or is that a lie that is small? Could this alleged bee sting be code for something else?

How did DY discover the alleged lie?

Did DY take Kyron to a Dr. to have him examined or?
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« Reply #850 on: August 15, 2010, 01:58:32 PM »


I think it's interesting that instead of running right out and hiring some well-known Criminal Defense attorney... Dede instead, hired Chad Stavley.  He is noted for being a Personal Injury attorney. 

An attorney such as this would handle cases such as: slander, defamation and libel. 

Kind of shows where she may expect the direction of a needed defense to go in? 

 

http://www.oregonaccidentattorney.com/



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« Reply #851 on: August 15, 2010, 01:58:42 PM »


I think it's interesting that instead of running right out and hiring some well-known Criminal Defense attorney... Dede instead, hired Chad Stavley.  He is noted for being a Personal Injury attorney. 

An attorney such as this would handle cases such as: slander, defamation and libel. 

Kind of shows where she may expect the direction of a needed defense to go in? 

 

http://www.oregonaccidentattorney.com/


Now that is very interesting, thanks, I didn't realize that was the kind of lawyer DeDe has.
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« Reply #852 on: August 15, 2010, 01:58:55 PM »


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« Reply #853 on: August 15, 2010, 02:02:15 PM »

Again, I mention the comment from DY that states that in her opinion TH tells lies both big and small. Then we are told that in DY's opinion TH apparently lied about a bee sting.
Is that a lie that is big or is that a lie that is small? Could this alleged bee sting be code for something else?

How did DY discover the alleged lie?

Did DY take Kyron to a Dr. to have him examined or?
I don't want to get people mad with me saying this, but if I were an ex wife scorned, by what happened between Kaine and Terri, I would never shut up, and all I would do is say mean things about the woman who took my husband. Obviously I would be bitter, don't know how Desiree would be about all this. And maybe Terri does lie about a lot of things, I know a couple people that lie about a lot of things, just am use to it, and I move on.
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« Reply #854 on: August 15, 2010, 02:03:52 PM »

looked at the wiki post, thanks. yes I can see some people having a problem with them. I wonder if they get blamed for a lot of things?
But why does this person not like Terri? Is it because there has been some discussion about her possibly having a relationship with DeDe? I am curious if there are any extreme groups who go after this place a lot and target them? Any locals know?

well dede posted something re to The Pink Triangle pointed at Kaine out of hate for him.
I was like.... what the heck is pink triangle.. so many groups..
Dunno if someone else posted this as I am just catching up, but the pink triangle was a Nazi symbol to identify gay men during WW2. A pink triangle pointing at him in anger would maybe be pointing the finger at his sexuality. Just a thought.

Am thinking you and others are onto something with this line of thinking.  Yeppers.   

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« Reply #855 on: August 15, 2010, 02:04:26 PM »

Of course in order for DY to take Kyron to a Dr. to be examined she would have to have taken him during the week, regular business hours unless she possibly took him to an emergency room.

The potential bee sting would seem to be critical since Kyron is apparently allergic to them.
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« Reply #856 on: August 15, 2010, 02:06:27 PM »

looked at the wiki post, thanks. yes I can see some people having a problem with them. I wonder if they get blamed for a lot of things?
But why does this person not like Terri? Is it because there has been some discussion about her possibly having a relationship with DeDe? I am curious if there are any extreme groups who go after this place a lot and target them? Any locals know?

well dede posted something re to The Pink Triangle pointed at Kaine out of hate for him.
I was like.... what the heck is pink triangle.. so many groups..
Dunno if someone else posted this as I am just catching up, but the pink triangle was a Nazi symbol to identify gay men during WW2. A pink triangle pointing at him in anger would maybe be pointing the finger at his sexuality. Just a thought.

Am thinking you and others are onto something with this line of thinking.  Yeppers.   


I sure wish that someone would explain this line of thinking to me, completely lost in this 
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« Reply #857 on: August 15, 2010, 02:07:44 PM »

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« Reply #858 on: August 15, 2010, 02:11:19 PM »



1.  Andrea said that the baby was sick on June 3.  Does that mean Terri went to the gym June 3 and didn't being the baby?  Andrea could have been working that day and that's why she knew that the baby was sick.

2.  I think June 3 is an important day.  I wonder if Terri's cell phone pings are conflicting on June 3 and that's where the Sauvie Island search came from.

3.  I think the new lens comes from bat phones, GJ testimony or Dede info.

4.  I am wondering what the relationship between Dede and Terri is?  Dede seems to be into alternative type things-food, gardening.

Terri doesn't seem to be into much.  I wonder if Terri and Dede have a "thing" or if Dede jumped on the bandwagon to help poor Terri because she's abused or whatever.

Otherwise, I just don't see them being simpatico.
I have no idea exactly what Terri and DeDe have going, but seriously that is the only think that I can come up with, "a thing" between the two of them. I just don't see a friend, that Kaine even said didn't come around the house that much, to help like this. And I have no idea how much DeDe even helped Terri with?

Then why would she(DeDe)move in with TH for 10 days after KH moved out?
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« Reply #859 on: August 15, 2010, 02:14:39 PM »

I don't follow the vandersloot case but I know many of you do...

can someone tell me... is this part true, that he was involved in thailand sex trade?

I'm sure there's the occasional rich perv out there on the internet who would fork over half a million if a child could be delivered to him with no risk to himself for the kidnapping. Somebody who has a lot more to lose than the average perv.

But you're right, normally it's dirt poor kids whose own families sell them in third world countries, often thinking they're sending their child to some job apprenticeship or a better life. Or a child who won't be missed.

The guy they think kidnapped Natalee Holloway and murdered that other young woman in Peru has now been linked to the sex slave trade in Thailand. He was luring people with lies and selling them like cattle!

Anything you can think of, there's some of it going on out there. It's sad and terrible and somehow we have to put a stop to it.
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