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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #19 8/13/10 - 8/15/10  (Read 166339 times)
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« Reply #640 on: August 14, 2010, 09:45:27 PM »

Klaas, in the videos that aren't about Kyron, does it seem like the guy with the goatee might be a bodybuilder?  There is a photo with some equipment behind him.  There is also a photo with a muscular arm.
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« Reply #641 on: August 14, 2010, 09:46:01 PM »

hehe nicu... I'll just post the info over there for people who wish to read it and not say anything on this board. that way we will both be happy...hows that

Did you just ban me over there? 

huh,, heck no.. .I have not even went back to my board yet... why do you say that?
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« Reply #642 on: August 14, 2010, 09:46:29 PM »

IIRC...Kyron's missing didn't go out on the news right away, so it may not have been of the news when those tweets were made. All I got from the tweets were she was asking about a roadside fruit and veggie stand. I guess the gardening doesn't seem hinkey to me is that I am from the south and everyone here has a garden. I have 2 grandkids that had their own little produce stand beside the rd. They made a good bit of money this summer.
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« Reply #643 on: August 14, 2010, 09:49:32 PM »

hehe nicu... I'll just post the info over there for people who wish to read it and not say anything on this board. that way we will both be happy...hows that

Did you just ban me over there? 

huh,, heck no.. .I have not even went back to my board yet... why do you say that?

I'm teasing you DD...just being silly. Hot day. Adult lemonade. Nuff said.
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« Reply #644 on: August 14, 2010, 09:51:06 PM »

Im sorry but I feel the need to revisit some of the tweets. Now that we KNOW dede is involved and now that I have put alot of these together.. I think it is VERY important..

here are tweets between dede & rosemont (look at the times and dates)

Rosemont to dede....
@dedejustdede it's in a shed/ garage thingy & they're not always open - they have beautiful gardens tho!
7:27 PM Jun 4th via web in reply to dedejustdede

Dede to Rosemont
@Rosemont_Farm is the produce outside by the rd, or do u drive up & knock on the door? 7:25 PM Jun 4th via txt


DeDes Random Tweet ...
Heads up PDX peeps: the Red Robin in Wilsonville has no A/C. I think their heat may be on. 9:07 PM Jul 9th via txt

Important now look at Rosemonts tweet
Rosemont replying to DeDe....(mentions WIlsonville to dede On June 4th the DAY Kyron goes missing)
Reply Retweet . On Stafford Rd between I 205 & Wilsonville, Or is a little farm stand on the left, they offer eggs and seasonal veggies.
7:17 PM Jun 4th via web

Another Rosemont Tweet that Is VERY IMPORTANT to look at JUN 2nd
and remember DeDE planned this...

@dedejustdede let's chat Sunday(ish) to confirm (???)
9:31 PM Jun 2nd via web in reply to dedejustdede
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dedejustdede  Sunday I hope as long we get our act together to do the trade .Maybe could do it Monday...?
(now what did dede have to trade? she was NOT a farmer and she lived in a condo)!
Hi Lucky7, I have heard of tweets, but I'm not very familiar with what they are exactly. What you have posted is interesting and could very well mean something.
I believe it does. I have all of the tweets saved they took forever. One thing I wanted to point out about this is during that time Rosemont talked about Scooby. I know that Jonsr said dede was Scooby on GLP> I will find the tweets re scooby and post them too.

( there is ALOT more to all these people and tweets)




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dedejustdede  Sunday I hope as long we get our act together to do the trade .Maybe could do it Monday...?

A Oregon comment suggested that "Potty Plants" are grown on that farm Could DDS be making a Potty Plant trade?



Rosemont never metioned trading plants, before the tweets she had one mention re trading meat and milk thats it. nothing about plants.

Klaas, forgive me if I'm not allowed to copy and paste a post from WS forum. Heather from Rosemont Farm's wrote a candid and heartfelt letter to the sleuthing community. I would like for everyone to read her words before continuing to imply her involvement in Kyron's disappearance. If after reading her words perhaps you will change your approach to sleuthing these folks.

"Hi internet sleuths,

I am Heather Walters from Rosemont Farm in Yamhill (aka @Rosemont_Farm).

After watching the events with Dede Spicher unfold with much dismay and wondering what to do about it all, I've decided to come forward here at Websleuths and set the record straight once and for all.

I gave an interview to Anita Kissee at KATU a couple of Friday's ago about this same thing, but unfortunately the rumor mill is still churning.

Our farm has been in our family since 1846 and to us it's part of our family. There is nothing we would do to jeopardize it up to and including participating in any criminal activity or associating with known criminal types or persons with questionable integrity or character.

This farm is a family legacy. We care for this land with every shred of our hearts so seeing the speculations and misinformation about our farm is troubling to say the least.

I'm going to clear up a few things and hopefully ease some speculation in regards to our association with the Kyron Horman case.

1. No one in my family knows or has ever met or corresponded with knowingly any person in the Horman, Moulton or Young family.
2. Only one person in our family has corresponded with Dede Spicher - me. Via twitter, email, Facebook and I believe some phonetag voicemails.
3. Dede Spicher was supposed to be an intern on our farm (she approached us with a detailed proposal).
4. Dede Spicher was NEVER an intern on our farm, nor did she step foot on our farm that we know of.
5. Neither myself nor anyone associated with my farm (friends or family) know Dede Spicher personally.
6. I took the Muddy Boy video (associated with the words "Boy + Water + Dirt = Heaven") at my farm on June 5th of my young son playing in the dirt. There were no sinister meanings behind that video. It was merely my beautiful boy playing in the mud as boys love to do.
7. Our name and address have been associated with horrible untrue accusations...which has led to us losing the ONLY way we advertise through sites like Twitter, Facebook, our blog, Local Harvest etc.
8. Yes we have pigs. Yes pigs are omnivores. Yes we had an accident on our farm where 2 goats were killed recently. Yes I tweeted something along the lines that pigs will eat anything 'even you' to someone in jest. No we do not feed our pigs dead bodies.
9. Law Enforcement was called through their tipline around midnight the night I saw Dede Spicher's face on Katu. I offered them carte blanche to search anything they want anytime they want. My family also said the same thing in person to the local sheriff when he came for a trespassing call recently.
10. To sum up - we do not have anything to do with this case other than being accidentally drug into it because we tweeted with Dede Spicher. This has had a huge impact on our farm in terms of finding customers and I cannot express how much I just wish we could go back to being an anonymous farm.

If anything can be taken away from this case it is that innocent people have lost all rights to privacy in cases like this...and I can sincerely say that there have been times since this started when I have read horrible things about us that I have been truly scared for our safety.

Please think LONG and hard before you post people's addresses and identifying information in situations like this.

In hopes of a positive outcome for Kyron,
Heather at Rosemont"

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5486680&postcount=1


Here's my question about old DeDe...how was she supporting herself?

Internships don't pay..and I thought earlier we read where if she gave 5 hours a week to the gardens at ?  she would get paid in produce.

So..once again..how was DeDe paying for her condo that is currently for sale..it is not in foreclosure..so she has been making payments.  How..where does she work that psys in $$?
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« Reply #645 on: August 14, 2010, 09:51:35 PM »

hehe nicu... I'll just post the info over there for people who wish to read it and not say anything on this board. that way we will both be happy...hows that

Did you just ban me over there? 

huh,, heck no.. .I have not even went back to my board yet... why do you say that?

I'm teasing you DD...just being silly. Hot day. Adult lemonade. Nuff said.

oh hahaha, I went to look to see if something happened to the board. LOL.. I thought wth, why does she think that...

quit making me look like a mean old witch Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #646 on: August 14, 2010, 09:53:57 PM »

I would like to point out again, that the TIMES on tweets are the person looking at the tweets time i.e. I look at a tweet it is showing my timezone EST even though the person posting the tweet is in Oregon., so unless you live in the PCT, the time showing is YOUR time zone not Oregons.

I believe Klaas can verify this, it was talked about before.

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« Reply #647 on: August 14, 2010, 10:00:12 PM »

For anyone researching or examining that wicked awful video I transcribed the words from it as they appeared on the screen so they could be looked out without having to watch the video over and over.  They are disturbing so I don't know if I should post them here.  What should i do and is anyone interested in having a copy of this?

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« Reply #648 on: August 14, 2010, 10:04:48 PM »

Klaas, in the videos that aren't about Kyron, does it seem like the guy with the goatee might be a bodybuilder?  There is a photo with some equipment behind him.  There is also a photo with a muscular arm.

Yes there is.  Those videos were uploaded to Youtube in November.  But yes to the body builder type.
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« Reply #649 on: August 14, 2010, 10:05:18 PM »

I pay attention to you DD and to Tracey. I also think there is something to a SK or just plain perverts. How many attempted abductions happen in Portland of little boys?
I read somewhere that here were 40 missing children in Portland currently. I think that was a comment on Oregon Live or whatever. I just hope that LE isnít trying to make it stick to Terri without going down that other fork in the road, that it wasnít her.
For every fact I read, there is an alternate fact. None of the persons involved in this excluding Kaneís brother have ever been citied for jaywalking, now they are criminal masterminds. Many vehicles, many persons that are in cahoots with Terri ? I call bs on that one.
ie.   The bat phones, when were they purchased ?   
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Today at 5:48 IMO, Terri was afraid that some stuff about her would come out, like a bad marriage and perhaps an affair and that is why she failed the LDT.

LOL well that is one person that doesn't ignore what I say, lol. Thank you for the comment

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« Reply #650 on: August 14, 2010, 10:09:19 PM »

For anyone researching or examining that wicked awful video I transcribed the words from it as they appeared on the screen so they could be looked out without having to watch the video over and over.  They are disturbing so I don't know if I should post them here.  What should i do and is anyone interested in having a copy of this?


I think it would be very helpful to have that here. Let's face it, working on missing persons cases is disturbing. Many horrible details we would like to pretend do not exist, but I do this to help in the best way I can, and I think most are here for the same reason.
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« Reply #651 on: August 14, 2010, 10:09:20 PM »

Klaas, in the videos that aren't about Kyron, does it seem like the guy with the goatee might be a bodybuilder?  There is a photo with some equipment behind him.  There is also a photo with a muscular arm.

Yes there is.  Those videos were uploaded to Youtube in November.  But yes to the body builder type.

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« Reply #652 on: August 14, 2010, 10:10:46 PM »

I pay attention to you DD and to Tracey. I also think there is something to a SK or just plain perverts. How many attempted abductions happen in Portland of little boys?
I read somewhere that here were 40 missing children in Portland currently. I think that was a comment on Oregon Live or whatever. I just hope that LE isnít trying to make it stick to Terri without going down that other fork in the road, that it wasnít her.
For every fact I read, there is an alternate fact. None of the persons involved in this excluding Kaneís brother have ever been citied for jaywalking, now they are criminal masterminds. Many vehicles, many persons that are in cahoots with Terri ? I call bs on that one.
ie.   The bat phones, when were they purchased ?   
The media does not check their facts before they publish or they release information that has been edited.   
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Today at 5:48 IMO, Terri was afraid that some stuff about her would come out, like a bad marriage and perhaps an affair and that is why she failed the LDT.

LOL well that is one person that doesn't ignore what I say, lol. Thank you for the comment


I too greatly respect your postings and insight Tracygirl
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« Reply #653 on: August 14, 2010, 10:12:42 PM »

Klaas, in the videos that aren't about Kyron, does it seem like the guy with the goatee might be a bodybuilder?  There is a photo with some equipment behind him.  There is also a photo with a muscular arm.

Yes there is.  Those videos were uploaded to Youtube in November.  But yes to the body builder type.

Thanks, Klaas!
Dunno who he is but I think he is just a young hot bod, not necessarily a body builder, but probably works out or plays sports to have that physique. They deteriorate so quickly after the 20s. lol
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« Reply #654 on: August 14, 2010, 10:19:11 PM »

The other day someone was talking about how many Kyron billboards were in Russian.  I thought that was kind of strange, until I just read what a problem there is with human trafficking in Russia.  Evidently they have recently cut their aid to non-profit organizations who fight against trafficking there.  Maybe some of the human trafficking in Portland is related to this Russian problem.

Just a thought...

Interesting and Kyron would fit right in there. I had thought in Mexico Kyron would stand out like a sore thumb
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« Reply #655 on: August 14, 2010, 10:22:21 PM »

I would warn you that those posts of BLINKS were before the MFH plot and alot of stuff in this case.  People change their minds and that includes Blink.  I cannot speak for Blink but I know that we all change our minds about things as we get more information.


I'm so sorry guys...I didn't get to finish what I was doing.  My patient I take care of was rushed to the hosp and I am on the emergency list so I met them at the hosp until stable and fam arrived.  Sm TIA and happens every couple of mos and she is okay and maybe home Monday. 

I was showing through Blinks posts how things had evolved winding up to what she thought as of now.  I promise I was ending up somewhere but got thrown for a loop with all the sickness/surgeries (son and my dear patient)around me.  I apologize everyone.  Looks like I was just favoring the TH side and that isn't what I was doing.
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« Reply #656 on: August 14, 2010, 10:23:26 PM »

The other day someone was talking about how many Kyron billboards were in Russian.  I thought that was kind of strange, until I just read what a problem there is with human trafficking in Russia.  Evidently they have recently cut their aid to non-profit organizations who fight against trafficking there.  Maybe some of the human trafficking in Portland is related to this Russian problem.

Just a thought...

Interesting and Kyron would fit right in there. I had thought in Mexico Kyron would stand out like a sore thumb

Could he have been taken to Canada?
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« Reply #657 on: August 14, 2010, 10:25:14 PM »

For anyone researching or examining that wicked awful video I transcribed the words from it as they appeared on the screen so they could be looked out without having to watch the video over and over.  They are disturbing so I don't know if I should post them here.  What should i do and is anyone interested in having a copy of this?


I think it would be very helpful to have that here. Let's face it, working on missing persons cases is disturbing. Many horrible details we would like to pretend do not exist, but I do this to help in the best way I can, and I think most are here for the same reason.

Klaas if this is too disturbing or shouldn't be posted here please delete.
These are the words from that youtube vid -

NOTE:  The words below are the words of a video and not the opinion of any members of this site.  Just to make it clear. 

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The Porno Queen & Dr Death
Porn Queen Terri Horman Commits Murder of young children
Missing Child Kyron Horman suffered abuse from his stepmother.
Terri Horman strangled Kyron Horman on Brooks Rd near the school
Google images catches Horman red handed
a pre-arranged gravesite appeared ready for her young victim
accomplices stand ready to help transport the victim
a bicyclist comes upon some gruesome discoveries
Portland police & the FBI search for leads on NW Newberry Rd
Blood evidence, cell phones, detinators and snipers loom amongst the scene
The pornographers are preparing for a film shoot
Camera's and cars are converted to use in the deadly executions
Nearby neighbors are not victims they are part of this occult ring of child traffickers
In plain site a young boys body lies beneath a tree
while other children are near by
What goes on in the heart of NW Newberry Rd
Aerial photographers access the area
a haunting cry comes from the ground while participants ignore the sound
Commando prepare to storm the area
batching grids with take no man alive attitudes
As some prepare to flee US Marshalls will be standing by
No bars hold the saga is going to come to an end
Human trafficking is against the law
Selling body parts is against the law
Dr Death prepares his escort of his latest victim
Bodies seen hanging from trees
It's been their playground for about 20 years drug trafficking and selling children
It's in their schools, their churches, and their places of business
The black Suv seen in the mirror places you at the location of NWNewberry Cell phone ping
I didn't have to even be there to figure this one out
While each vehicle remained occupied all they did was give theirselves away
Kids just don't vanish and there are no such thing as flying saucers Unless your on a ball

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Simple as that Terri Horman your evil and you've hurt alot of peoples lives
And I'll be the first to pull the electric switch ON YOU
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« Reply #658 on: August 14, 2010, 10:25:57 PM »

This line stood out:

"The black SUV seen in the mirror places you at the location of NW Newberry Cell phone ping."
I thought that was really strange also.

So are we all thinking that whomever had created said video possibly has "some" inside knowledge?
Interesting.
I personally believe so. There are enough things in this case now for me to believe Kyron's abduction was done by a very skilled group. Everything I have seen lately points either to a cult or human traffickers. This is no ordinary case, and certainly not a matter of Terri getting back at Kaine, which is why the FBI was on this like flies on feces from the get-go. The video on Youtube relayed a message I have seen a few times before in connection with other cases. If LE doesn't see that.... I will have lost hope for this case.

You said "a messsage" I am curious as to what you mean by that. The note left at Kyron's wall of Hope was a message as well. Do you believe that they are connected?
(I'm trying to pick your brain here lol!)
Yes, I believe both were messages,

I believe the note is connected as well.
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« Reply #659 on: August 14, 2010, 10:32:53 PM »

New interview with Desiree and Kaine:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/website-launched-kyron-horman-case/story?id=11402564
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