Lively Case Discussion #582 2/10 - 2/15/2007

[sirensong]

From Amigo:

Dumping in the Moko dam continues  

ORANJESTAD – While the fire flared up again this morning, dump trucks of Atco continued to drive up and discharge their ‘cargo’ in the quarry at Moko.

According to neighbourhood residents, it is a coming and going of trucks with containers.  Around the 30 trucks per day are not unusual.  They now come via Jaburibari and take the road between Parke Curazon and the FCCA-houses to the illegal dump.  Some are covered with wire netting and most probably contain debris and demolition waste, but it is obvious that some of the containers contain combustible garbage, like coarse garden waste, and pallets.

The residents are collecting evident, so they can use them in their next lawsuit against the owners of the illegal dump and their biggest users.  They want to make them liable for all the damage to the environment and the lack of living pleasure.    

Week and a half after the first reporting, the Environmental Inspection has not received the report of the anti-pollution squad yet and a civil case will offer a solution faster

Thanks Leslie for bringing the links in everyday!  God I hate Aruba.  I don't know why anyone would want to go there.  Corrupt, dirty, unsafe.  When will He hear all of our prayers, and send an answer? I get so frustrated waiting to get answers, and it just kills me what Nat's family must feel.

[klaasend]

I will make an accurate statement few will understand.The problem with the case in aruba is we have at the wrong way.Viking culture(dutch) is built on family alliances.Bastard children were a part of society,a needed part.Beth arrival may have prevented Natalee's discovery,because there was not enough time to fix blame,let decomposition take place,find the body and put others in jail.We found out to much to early  to allow this to happen.I am not supporting aruba,but I thought late last night about van der stratten's remark.just a thought.Sherlock Cat

CAT - I agree with everything above

[sharon]

I will make an accurate statement few will understand.The problem with the case in aruba is we have at the wrong way.Viking culture(dutch) is built on family alliances.Bastard children were a part of society,a needed part.Beth arrival may have prevented Natalee's discovery,because there was not enough time to fix blame,let decomposition take place,find the body and put others in jail.We found out to much to early  to allow this to happen.I am not supporting aruba,but I thought late last night about van der stratten's remark.just a thought.Sherlock Cat

Cat

I have come to believe that your statement is accurate. Albeit incredibly sad.

I do believe the 'set up' of the security guards was in full swing until Beth arrived.  I believe that one -- or both -- would have taken the fall. Evidence was being planted and stories were being circulated to make one or both of the guards 'guilty'.

I also think that the body 'movement' may have taken a strange turn -- that there may have been an internal struggle between those 'in the know'. Different agendas. If that makes sense.

There certainly were a lot of games being played in the cover up.

I mean -- what are the chances that the ONLY footage of the casino that is released has a 'Paulus' twin in it?

And what a coincidence that an aerial photographer just happened to be in the vicinity as the furniture truck pulls up at the vds's?

jmo

[Mere]

I will make an accurate statement few will understand.The problem with the case in aruba is we have at the wrong way.Viking culture(dutch) is built on family alliances.Bastard children were a part of society,a needed part.Beth arrival may have prevented Natalee's discovery,because there was not enough time to fix blame,let decomposition take place,find the body and put others in jail.We found out to much to early  to allow this to happen.I am not supporting aruba,but I thought late last night about van der stratten's remark.just a thought.Sherlock Cat

Cat...you are right...Aruba did not count on Beth or the internet or the blogs or the travel sites that were on to them on day 1....thanks....Mere

[Artcolley]

I was wrong, it's -22 F/-30 C here this morning.   Brrrr.

Good Day Monkeys
justinsmama
All the schools here are closed too.  Snow and 20-30 mph wind
But it nothing like 100+ inches part of New York state has gotten  

Leslie
- 22   .. all I can say is Brrrrr  ... stay bundled up if you have to venture out

Ours is supposed to arrive tonight..brrrrr
Got the old woodstove cranking and lanterns out in case we lose electricity.
HOWEVER...I LOVE a good blizzard as long as no one gets injured or worse!

[igsigs]

Paulus predictions?

Gets his $$$ ?  Gets less $$$ ?  Gets no $$$ ?

Another flat tire at the Curacao airport?

[Artcolley]

I will make an accurate statement few will understand.The problem with the case in aruba is we have at the wrong way.Viking culture(dutch) is built on family alliances.Bastard children were a part of society,a needed part.Beth arrival may have prevented Natalee's discovery,because there was not enough time to fix blame,let decomposition take place,find the body and put others in jail.We found out to much to early  to allow this to happen.I am not supporting aruba,but I thought late last night about van der stratten's remark.just a thought.Sherlock Cat

Cat...you are right...Aruba did not count on Beth or the internet or the blogs or the travel sites that were on to them on day 1....thanks....Mere

Hey, MeMere

I'll bet that thar VIking culture is amazed at our "stick-to-it-ness" too!!!! We are still there fighting for Natalee and will be for as long as it takes!!!!
We all do NOT have a short attention span problem, especially we Monkeys!!!!

[Artcolley]

Hope all our MOnkeys in the Tornado watch area are safe and sound!!!!

[nonesuche]

How great to see you Art !!!    {{ HUGS }} our miracle monkey !

So nice to sign in and see MeMere and igsigs and Sharon.......big smile  

I think Sharon's mention of different agendas is spot on also, warring factions even at times it appears with Janssen in the mix !

[Artcolley]

How great to see you Art !!!    {{ HUGS }} our miracle monkey !

So nice to sign in and see MeMere and igsigs and Sharon.......big smile  

I think Sharon's mention of different agendas is spot on also, warring factions even at times it appears with Janssen in the mix !

AH, nice to see you too, NOne!!!!!
ANd all the other wonderful monkeys as well!!!!

I also agree with you, btw, that Sharons's mention of different agendas is correct.

[Sue]

Paulus predictions?

Gets his $$$ ?  Gets less $$$ ?  Gets no $$$ ?

Another flat tire at the Curacao airport?

That SCUM BAG shouldnt get squat

[nonesuche]

Sue-

I try to remind myself that they already got the biggest prize ever, their son gets to live his life and walk free, while Natalee lost everything. Anything else pales in comparison, Aruba's collective heinous crime.

[igsigs]

That SCUM BAG shouldnt get squat

Agreed. In fact, if we are to believe what KJ said about Paulus being an impediment to the case, then he and the sporter have actually cost Aruba 100's of millions in revenue.

That Paulus is now in a position to be compensated for this is bizarre.

[nonesuche]

igsigs-

so true, so with the losses Aruba has sustained in tourism, WHY haven't the VDS' been run off the island?

the answer to that is an answer we need.......

[igsigs]

the answer to that is an answer we need.......

Very early in the case Bendex, someone familiar with the whole Aruba/Dutch sitiation, made a comment that stuck with me. He said that it would be very difficult to prosecute the son of a Dutch official on Aruba for a crime against an American tourist.

A simple statement...that has proved true.

[BTgirl]

O/T

Monkeys - I know all prayer needs are special and important. However, Lala's and I have posted a prayer request in the Lounge for someone who is very special to us both, and who chooses not to be named.

At 8:00 EST tomorrow, this person will begin cancer treatment. Would everyone who can please pause and say a prayer at that time for successful treatment for this person?

Thank you a million, billion times.

Hugs.

[msmarple]

Anybody seeing anything about a tornado in New Orleans?  

[Sam]

Anybody seeing anything about a tornado in New Orleans?  

Yes , read it on the AOL news and then heard about it on the noon news.
I know we have a couple of Monkeys from that area but cant think who they are right now.

Yes, BT I will pray for yours and Lalas friend.

Oh also to San, thanks for bringing us that article about teens staying safe.

[San]

igsigs-

so true, so with the losses Aruba has sustained in tourism, WHY haven't the VDS' been run off the island?

the answer to that is an answer we need.......

Paulus needs to keep his eye on certain people and I often wonder what is he hiding on his property.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Anybody seeing anything about a tornado in New Orleans?  

Yes , read it on the AOL news and then heard about it on the noon news.
I know we have a couple of Monkeys from that area but cant think who they are right now.

Yes, BT I will pray for yours and Lalas friend.

Oh also to San, thanks for bringing us that article about teens staying safe.

Cubbee lives in LA...
BT and Lalas..    Hope all goes well.