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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #22 8/19/10 - 8/21/10  (Read 221859 times)
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« Reply #520 on: August 20, 2010, 08:17:04 PM »

I see it just a little differently.  Kaine told reporters from the two largest news outlets in his area that they couldn't be in his and Desiree's presser because they "weren't playing as team members" (they had reported something he didn't like being reported).  They had to acquiesce to Kaine's ground rules or they couldn't stay.  IMO that is manipulating the press and not necessairly that the press hasn't found anything on Kaine (btw...I hope they haven't).



Was this after the MFH plot? After Kaine moved out? No one will tell me. 


Yes...I don't have the exact date at my fingertips.  I was one of the pressers with Kaine/Desiree "only" where they talked for about 30 minutes and answered questions from the reporters (I believe I have this correct; sorry I don't have it at my fingertips right now; don't want to mislead).

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« Reply #521 on: August 20, 2010, 08:17:14 PM »

1.  A Time to Unify?

NEW YORK, June 14, 2010
Kyron Horman Case Now Considered Criminal
7-Year-Old Missing 10 Days; Search Scaled Back


The search for Kyron began 10 days ago with no sign of the 7-year-old since his stepmother dropped him off at school on June 4.

Sheriff Dan Staton said, "We will be continuing this investigation. It is not going to stop and I am not going to cease in dedicating resources to locating Kyron."

Kyron's family has been largely silent since the news broke of the boy's disappearance, addressing the press just once, last Friday.

Tony Young, Kyron's stepfather, said, "I would just like to say Kyron, we miss you, we love you, and we need you home right now."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/14/earlyshow/main6580409.shtml


Dateline NBC puts story of missing Kyron in national eye
Published: Monday, July 26, 2010, 11:17 PM
Updated: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 4:26 PM


And Medford Police Detective Tony Young, Kyron's stepfather, offered his take on the what happened June 4, the day Kyron was last reported seen.

“I absolutely believe that Terri Horman is involved in Kyron's disappearance,” he said. 

Young said he suspected Moulton Horman early on, when he was explaining to the family how their privacy would disappear as detective proceeded with their investigation.

“She instantly started to express some displeasure at that, feeling like she was being persecuted,” he said. “I thought that was an unusual reaction so early.”

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/dateline_nbc_highlights_puts_s.html


June 18, 2010 4:51 PM
Kyron Horman Update: Cops Ask Public for Information about Stepmother, Believed to Have Last Seen Boy


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by tmittelstaed June 19, 2010 12:38 AM EDT

The only thing we know (and I live in OR so have read quite a lot about this case) is that the family immediately went into seclusion the first week of Kyron's disappearance, and -everyone- (and I mean everyone) remotely conected to the family has been absolutely close-lipped with regards to the families situation. There has been nothing in the way of family members or relatives talking to reporters and doing anything other than echoing the party line. Kyron's family has information about it's internal workings locked down so tight that it would put the CIA to shame, and they have managed the press to say what they want better than a lot of professional companies who manage politicians press interfaces have done.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20008192-504083.html


2.  Controlling the Media

Kyron Horman’s Family Boots WW and The Oregonian from Bizarre News Event
1:04 PM July 1st, 2010
by James Pitkin


The saga of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman got a little more bizarre today at a news conference held this morning by the boy’s family.

The event at Brooks Hill Historic Church was arranged on Wednesday by Kyron’s father Kaine Horman, biological mother Desiree Young and her husband, Medford Police Detective Tony Young.

Absent was Terri Moulton Horman, the stepmom investigators say was the last person known to have seen Kyron before his June 4 disappearance. Kaine Horman filed for divorce and a restraining order against her earlier this week. And she’s since hired star criminal defense attorney Stephen Houze.

Today, Kaine Horman and the Youngs sat at the head of a table in a room filled with more than two dozen national and local reporters for print, TV and radio. As the meeting began at 10 a.m., Kaine Horman started out by explaining “the agenda.” This wasn’t going to be a typical press conference.

Horman said the family’s goal was to make “the story” about Kyron. With news of the divorce and investigators homing in on the stepmom, media coverage (including in WW) has increasingly focused on Kyron’s troubled family.

First came Horman’s “ground rules,” as he described them. No cameras. No recordings. Everything was off the record and couldn’t be reported, unless agreed otherwise. Horman made everyone in the room agree to these rules before proceeding. And so this roomful of reporters consented, in essence, not to be reporters.

Horman then laid out how the meeting would go. They would take questions, make some phone calls (presumably to investigators, to find out what they could say in their answers), then return and make an on-the-record statement. But first, Horman wanted all the reporters he didn’t know to introduce themselves.

KEX radio, KATU, The Portland Tribune and “Inside Edition” all got the nod from Horman. But then came Shane Kavanaugh and Bryan Denson of The Oregonian.

Horman said the family didn’t like The Oregonian’s coverage and wanted them to leave. Horman said the daily had failed to be a “team player.”

“This is a team, and if we’re not going to play as a team, there’s no point in being here,” Horman said. “This is about Kyron.”

Denson objected, saying he’s new to the story and after 28 years in journalism he’s “a pretty good reporter.” But there was no arguing. The family wanted The O gone, and a woman who said she’s a manager at the church escorted them out. The biggest newspaper in the state had been eighty-sixed.

I introduced myself and said I’m with Willamette Week. Horman said the family has the same problem with WW. I agreed to leave. And so the paper with the second-biggest circulation in Oregon was also kicked out.

As far as I was concerned, after getting kicked out all deals were off. I wasn’t going to keep the meeting off the record.

According to a reporter who stayed, the family went on to lay out more “ground rules” for the future. They said they’d hold these “news conferences” (if you can call them that) twice a week, on Mondays and Thursdays, as time allows. They would make prepared statements, answer some questions submitted in writing and may also do occasional interviews.

“They want us to cover Kyron, and they’re not going to get neck-deep in gossip and rumors,” the reporter said.

ABC News convinced the family to make an on-the-record statement in front of one camera, with the tape available as pool footage for other reporters. After more than an hour inside the church, the reporters were sent outside while the family stayed in to prepare a statement.

The reporter at the scene said The Oregonian had somehow gotten back on the family’s good side and was among those waiting outside to hear the prepared statement.

At shortly after 12:30, the family emerged from the church and Desiree Young gave a brief statement in which she implored Terri Moulton Horman to cooperate with investigators. She also said the family believes Kyron is still alive.

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http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/01/kyron-hormans-family-boots-ww-and-the-oregonian/


More Notes from the Strange Press Conference with Kyron Horman’s Family
4:14 PM July 1st, 2010
by James Pitkin


As we’ve already reported, WW was kicked out of this morning’s news conference by the family of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

But our reporter friends have continued to fill us in on what we missed. After mother Desiree Young gave a tearful statement, she answered some questions submitted by the media.

Here are one reporter’s notes from the question-and-answer session:

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The family is helping with the case everyday by working with investigators and the media to make sure his face stays out there. They’re handing out fliers, getting t-shirts out there. Desiree said it is her goal for everyone any where in the world to know what Kyron looks like.

They have been fully briefed by police and they are optimistic. They are fully confident in the investigation and investigators who are doing everything they can to find Kyron.

Next week they will meet with media at 10am on Tuesday since Monday is a holiday. On Thursday they will do interviews starting at 4pm but nothing live. Everything taped as has to be held for air until Friday because Kyron went missing on a Friday.

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/01/more-notes-from-the-strange-press-conference-with-kyron-hormans-family/
 

Missing Child - Kyron Horman, 7
Posted on Jun 07, 2010


Below is an email from Kyron's father.

From: Horman, Kaine A
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: FW: Kaine Horman's son is missing

All,

If you have seen local Oregon news or been browsing the internet or FaceBook there is a good chance you have seen an article similar to the one that Becky forwarded (below).  While this note is difficult for me to write in this state of mind I felt it necessary for Kyron’s sake.

Optional actions for you:

The Intel network is large and wide-reaching.  Many have asked me what they can do to help us and my answer is the following:

1.       Forward Kyron’s information to as many people as you feel comfortable with; the more people that see this will increase our chances of finding him

2.     Do not speak to any media if contacted; I am trying to contact Intel legal to give them the heads up and help with this situation

Physical description at the time of his disappearance (picture is show in Becky’s note and here):

He is 3 foot 8 and 50 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair. He was wearing black cargo pants, white socks, worn black Sketcher tennis shoes with orange trim and dark-colored t-shirt with the "CSI" show logo

Police Hot Line Number:

(503) 261-2847

Some rough background:

The article that Becky forwarded is pretty accurate with details.  He was dropped off at school about 8:45 and went missing sometime between then and 9 or 9:30am.  We did not know he was not at school until we went to get him off of the bus at 3:30 and he was nowhere to be found.  The bus driver immediately called the school which responded that his teacher had not seen him all day in class, at which point we notified police in partnership with the school.  It is still unknown whether he left school grounds on his own or was abducted.  Be assured that there are currently an amazing number of agencies and amount of person-power being applied to the search and investigation.

Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers for Kyron’s safe return.  I will update the group once status changes which will hopefully be soon.  At the time of this note Kyron has now been missing for ~48 hours; time is of the essence.

Kaine Horman
Enterprise Business Architect
Intel Corporation

http://ackerlaw.com/posts/2010/06/07/missing_child__kyron_horman_7
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« Reply #522 on: August 20, 2010, 08:20:33 PM »




You are welcome.  I've got to run out and pu a pizza but will check when I get back!  Anyone else want me to pu pizza for them?  Let's have a pizza party!!


I'm making pizzas. Four and dough everywhere! Will soon spill sauce somewhere. My dog is paying attention to what I am doing with all of the cheese. He is available as a taste tester.

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« Reply #523 on: August 20, 2010, 08:21:26 PM »

"Four" s/b "flour"

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« Reply #524 on: August 20, 2010, 08:22:34 PM »

Thanks Janet. You answered the question that had been bothering me about the presser and the timeline. 
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« Reply #525 on: August 20, 2010, 08:25:18 PM »

as a teacher and special ed teacher, TH was aware of these practices,
used in a classroom setting and home use, the key is kids have to
have a choice, so that they become aware of consequences,i use these
on a daily basis with the adults with developmental disabilities
that i work with, and the foster children that have behaviours over the yrs
im a firm believer positive reinforcement is the way to go
young kids age 1-10, have no reference point till you give them one
and if you give them no choice, they end up with a very low self esteem
im just bad the h3ll with it, after awhile
we dont have all the details, but if what kaine says is true, that would
be boarding on abuse, and at the least bad parenting


Thank you thank you thank you.
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http://www.proteacher.org/a/30643_rewards_and_reinforcement.html
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« Reply #526 on: August 20, 2010, 08:25:36 PM »

I see it just a little differently.  Kaine told reporters from the two largest news outlets in his area that they couldn't be in his and Desiree's presser because they "weren't playing as team members" (they had reported something he didn't like being reported).  They had to acquiesce to Kaine's ground rules or they couldn't stay.  IMO that is manipulating the press and not necessairly that the press hasn't found anything on Kaine (btw...I hope they haven't).



Was this after the MFH plot? After Kaine moved out? No one will tell me. 


Yes...I don't have the exact date at my fingertips.  I was one of the pressers with Kaine/Desiree "only" where they talked for about 30 minutes and answered questions from the reporters (I believe I have this correct; sorry I don't have it at my fingertips right now; don't want to mislead).



Scatty...see Tamikosmom's Reply #521 - Item 2. Controlling the Media

Tamikosmom - thank you!


 
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« Reply #527 on: August 20, 2010, 08:25:36 PM »

So we shouldn't judge Terri with the yardstick we ourselves would not want to be judged with, but it is okay to judge Kaine based on "rumors?" 

Kaine seeing terri while married to desiree is not a rumor, which btw we got the answer how they met, at a restaurant while Kaine was out with friends. . We don't really know if Kaine was having an affair or not while married to Terri, could be I suppose. It was not confirmed Terri was having an "affair" with the LS.

Maybe no proof of affair in the physical sense, but yes, she was sexting him.  And both Tarver and Eckert stated that she had cheated on them.

Desiree says Kaine cheated on her so does that mean that kaine cheated on Terri? I am not saying she did or not, but we haven't been told she was having an affair.
If Kaine and Terri met at a restaurant, why was Kaine not wanting to say where they met?

I don't know, I think he just didnt' want to talk about that whole thing which I can understand, not sure if I would want to either....Also in that it says she has worked in restaurants, I didn't kow that.

Maybe it was a 'Breastraunt' she was working at???

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« Reply #528 on: August 20, 2010, 08:26:30 PM »

I see it just a little differently.  Kaine told reporters from the two largest news outlets in his area that they couldn't be in his and Desiree's presser because they "weren't playing as team members" (they had reported something he didn't like being reported).  They had to acquiesce to Kaine's ground rules or they couldn't stay.  IMO that is manipulating the press and not necessairly that the press hasn't found anything on Kaine (btw...I hope they haven't).



Was this after the MFH plot? After Kaine moved out? No one will tell me. 


Yes...I don't have the exact date at my fingertips.  I was one of the pressers with Kaine/Desiree "only" where they talked for about 30 minutes and answered questions from the reporters (I believe I have this correct; sorry I don't have it at my fingertips right now; don't want to mislead).



Oops, I missed your response. Thank you Puzzler.
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« Reply #529 on: August 20, 2010, 08:26:34 PM »

Kaine having an affair while married to Desiree has been brought up plenty. Still gets brought up. Same with his brother. Haven't heard as much about their grandfather, but that may just have been the brother trying to excuse his own behavior. I don't know. But all these have been brought up--the brother and the affair, ad nauseum.

naw not in my opinion because when it is brought up someone always posts, wagging a finger at their disappointment. I fully expect to read a posting saying to me something like, "now why on earth would that have anything to do with anything? Why would you want to further hurt a person who is in obvious pain. Kaine is a victim in this and he does not need to be drug through the mud, blah, blah, blah...."

 
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« Reply #530 on: August 20, 2010, 08:27:53 PM »

I mean the affair with Terri, the pedo brother, the grandfather that supposedly molested children...Blonde was trying to talk about the pedo brother for a day or so and no one wanted to talk about it. Kaine has an affair with Terri while Desiree was pg with Kyron and no one is allowed to say that was wrong because it would not be supportive of Kaine.
gotcha.  totally agree, it's very one-sided.  I don't care for TH or KH, but KH showed who he is when he cheated on his 8 month pregnant wife.  MOO
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« Reply #531 on: August 20, 2010, 08:30:49 PM »

Kaine having an affair while married to Desiree has been brought up plenty. Still gets brought up. Same with his brother. Haven't heard as much about their grandfather, but that may just have been the brother trying to excuse his own behavior. I don't know. But all these have been brought up--the brother and the affair, ad nauseum.

naw not in my opinion because when it is brought up someone always posts, wagging a finger at their disappointment. I fully expect to read a posting saying to me something like, "now why on earth would that have anything to do with anything? Why would you want to further hurt a person who is in obvious pain. Kaine is a victim in this and he does not need to be drug through the mud, blah, blah, blah...."

 

We may not agree but  your post just tickled my funny bone!
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« Reply #532 on: August 20, 2010, 08:32:00 PM »

I mean the affair with Terri, the pedo brother, the grandfather that supposedly molested children...Blonde was trying to talk about the pedo brother for a day or so and no one wanted to talk about it. Kaine has an affair with Terri while Desiree was pg with Kyron and no one is allowed to say that was wrong because it would not be supportive of Kaine.

Why isn't LE spending more time talking about Kaine's side of the family?
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« Reply #533 on: August 20, 2010, 08:33:12 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html

Terri Moulton Horman: Kyron Horman's stepmother is a profile in contradictions

Some very nice pictures go along with this article, too.


Thank you Puzzler! WOW this is an interesting read. Good information. It says Terri taught Kyron sign language at 6 months. How does sign language help his vision?

Exactly..if a child has visual problems that would be a last choice for communication.  So his visual problems did not develop until later then 6 months...I am guessing around 2 to 2.5 years and that could be off.

What I know is that James was living with them..and James was believing everything his Mommy said ...so if Mommy said she recognized this sight problem..then he belives that.

But it is obvious by the time he was a teen he was no longer believing everything Mommy said.  He was also, to me very willing to move to his Dad's.  Many will say that is not unusual...but..he had lived with Terri and Kaine for many years.  But he said he was used to changing homes...hmmm....that says he knew Mommy wasn't stable in her relationships and he long ago found it easier to go with her flow..rather he wanted to or not.

Personally I think James is in a polite way saying he knows Mommy has her issues and he has learned to deal with them, but Mommy never learned to deal with his teen issues.  Obviously he feels safe, secure and well taken care of in his current surroundings with bio Dad..and seems to be flourishing.

I also think that James and his Dad and family there have tried very hard to keep him out of this mess.  Enough said that James father heard Terri screaming at James over the phone because James told him she was upset about failing the lie detector ..I'd be there in a heartbeat like his Dad to take him home.   Terri's screaming..hmmm..yep supportive Mom to a son that just found out his step brother is missing....
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« Reply #534 on: August 20, 2010, 08:35:33 PM »

Kaine having an affair while married to Desiree has been brought up plenty. Still gets brought up. Same with his brother. Haven't heard as much about their grandfather, but that may just have been the brother trying to excuse his own behavior. I don't know. But all these have been brought up--the brother and the affair, ad nauseum.

naw not in my opinion because when it is brought up someone always posts, wagging a finger at their disappointment. I fully expect to read a posting saying to me something like, "now why on earth would that have anything to do with anything? Why would you want to further hurt a person who is in obvious pain. Kaine is a victim in this and he does not need to be drug through the mud, blah, blah, blah...."

 

I don't remember ever seeing any words like that posted here.  IMO I happen to trust LE a bit more than maybe you and a few others do but if you want to investigate Kaine and his family it's fine by me.  I would have to wonder why LE appears to be working WITH Kaine and why the courts gave him custody of Kiara if he's such a bad guy, but that's just me.
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« Reply #535 on: August 20, 2010, 08:37:15 PM »


That's kind of hard to believe, seahorse, since they relegated Harry Oakes to the parking lot.  I guess it's okay to talk about Hairy Bush!

 

I'm sure the thread will be closed quickly.  It is amazing what you can't talk about over there.

Hi Monkey's,

I guess the Lawyers, Ok'd.  Perhaps they lured Jason over with something spicey he hadn't responded on his thread today. I agree it is so hard to believe. We are above the smut.
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« Reply #536 on: August 20, 2010, 08:40:06 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html

Terri Moulton Horman: Kyron Horman's stepmother is a profile in contradictions

Some very nice pictures go along with this article, too.


Thank you Puzzler! WOW this is an interesting read. Good information. It says Terri taught Kyron sign language at 6 months. How does sign language help his vision?

Exactly..if a child has visual problems that would be a last choice for communication.  So his visual problems did not develop until later then 6 months...I am guessing around 2 to 2.5 years and that could be off.

What I know is that James was living with them..and James was believing everything his Mommy said ...so if Mommy said she recognized this sight problem..then he belives that.

But it is obvious by the time he was a teen he was no longer believing everything Mommy said.  He was also, to me very willing to move to his Dad's.  Many will say that is not unusual...but..he had lived with Terri and Kaine for many years.  But he said he was used to changing homes...hmmm....that says he knew Mommy wasn't stable in her relationships and he long ago found it easier to go with her flow..rather he wanted to or not.

Personally I think James is in a polite way saying he knows Mommy has her issues and he has learned to deal with them, but Mommy never learned to deal with his teen issues.  Obviously he feels safe, secure and well taken care of in his current surroundings with bio Dad..and seems to be flourishing.

I also think that James and his Dad and family there have tried very hard to keep him out of this mess.  Enough said that James father heard Terri screaming at James over the phone because James told him she was upset about failing the lie detector ..I'd be there in a heartbeat like his Dad to take him home.   Terri's screaming..hmmm..yep supportive Mom to a son that just found out his step brother is missing....
ITA! I'm glad his Dad is looking out for what is best for him! This has to be hard on him.
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« Reply #537 on: August 20, 2010, 08:41:07 PM »

Kaine having an affair while married to Desiree has been brought up plenty. Still gets brought up. Same with his brother. Haven't heard as much about their grandfather, but that may just have been the brother trying to excuse his own behavior. I don't know. But all these have been brought up--the brother and the affair, ad nauseum.

naw not in my opinion because when it is brought up someone always posts, wagging a finger at their disappointment. I fully expect to read a posting saying to me something like, "now why on earth would that have anything to do with anything? Why would you want to further hurt a person who is in obvious pain. Kaine is a victim in this and he does not need to be drug through the mud, blah, blah, blah...."

 

Well, my curiosity has been working about this.  Kaine having an affair with Terri while Desiree is 8 months pregnant would weigh big-time on Terri's mind, IMO, "if" (note I said "if") it turns out to be true that Kaine was having an affair with another woman while married to Terri, possibly during her pregancy and/or after giving birth to Kiara.  In connection with "why" would Terri kidnap Kyron: This could be a "scenario" where Kaine is fine with a woman until a pregnancy/child is brought into the picture and then the man/woman relationship takes a nose-dive straight down.  This "could" be ascenario that Terri could get worked up over, could have acted-out with the landscaper, with the high school friend, had trouble dealing with James' school problems, etc., etc., etc.

I know we don't know if that's true for a "fact", but it is being discussed all over the internet; i.e., we also don't know for a fact that DeDe and Terri are lesbian lovers, but it's been brought up in this forum many times.  If Jason is to be believed, he said that Dede told him she had never been with a woman.



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« Reply #538 on: August 20, 2010, 08:41:21 PM »

I have got to comment on the mark system from the school and Terri's behavior toward this. My daughter gets the colored dot system and has since kindergarten. She has also been diagnosed ADD with anxiety and Pica disorders. (firm believer this all comes from living with her bio parents). During kindergarten she received several red marks, I kept asking her why, after the 3rd time I called the school to speak with the teacher, no call back. The following day she again received a red mark. Sammi said the same thing "I don't know" Well I went to the room to talk to the teacher. The teacher was very belligerent and asked if I had not talked to Sammi. After pulling the info from her, she had told Sammi to take the pencil out of her mouth, after that every day that she saw Sammi with the pencil in her mouth she gave her a red mark, said that she knew she was not suppose to have the pencil in her mouth she should not have to remind her every day. After I saw the pencils, she was not putting the pencil in her mouth, she was eating them from the erasers down and had eaten 4 pencils. I asked the teacher if she had any idea of what Pica was. At this time I requested that a note accompany any mark other than a green mark. Had to fight with the whole school system over this. During any of Sammi's re-evaluations for ADD and other disorders I have to have very close communications with the teachers. If Terri thought that Kyron was having issues I feel she was doing right by staying up with it on a daily basis.
               During 2nd grade Sammi got into the habit of picking her nose and eating it. I found out about this because she was crying after school one day because none of the other kids would have anything to do with her. I went to the school the next morning and found out that this had been going on for weeks. She did not do it at home because she did not feel the anxiety that she felt at school. But because after several weeks the teacher did not see fit to tell the parent Sammi was shunned by her school mates.

One other thing I wanted to hit on, in the story about Terri I wonder if the whole pregnancy was a bad emotional deal. Kaine said in the article that the pregnancy was a shock to him as he thought they were NOT going to have children.

Not defending what she may have done to Kyron on June 4th. Only defending her right to question the teacher on the behavioral issues.
an angelic monkey oh my, Pica is a terrible thing, we had a family member with this. May I please ask, is this card system used with all children, or with children with learning problems? The reason I ask is, did Kyron have learning problems?

IIRC, Kyron's teacher said Kyron had NO learning disabilities.


And to add to that thought Desiree and Kaine when asked in an interview about physical characteristics and any illness stated only about a birthmark or mole, and the allergy to bee stings.  They have been asked repeatedly about Kyron having other issues and have stated he did not.  Why would they lie when they want their son back? 

Why are we having to defend anything Desiree or Tony or Kaine say?  The point is..not any of them are involved in his disappearance, not any of them has had even 1 person come forward to say anything bad about them in a written or spoken press article, not one person has suspected them in any of this disappearance of Kyron.

However people have come forward..people who know her well..Kaine and Desiree and Tony..and LE.  Kaine says in his court document that LE has given him reason to belive his life may be in danger..do you think he lied..LE lied..LE just got the facts wrong.  Give me a break this taking up for Terri and battering Kaine is silly.  People doing that seem to have their own issues..which I can't comprehend. 

We are not a jury ..but we form opinions on what we know.  If you feel you don't have enough to base an opinion of Terri on..well that's fine..but don't belittle people that can see she is the most likely suspect.

LE didn't lie to Kaine about Terri's affair and MFH scheme..so you need to get over that fact..she is not a nice person..she is capable of planning a murder and requesting help.  So far no one else in this case seems to have that ability..except any contacts the landscaper may have found for her.

Amen Gypsy!

The media has been digging for months.....if there was dirt on Kaine, we would know about it.....IMO

There are people who WANT there to be dirt on Kaine....and unfortunately when there isn't any dirt to be found, these same people will create it.

Clearly, Terri has enough dirt for half of Portland to dig up....without much difficulty.

I see it just a little differently.  Kaine told reporters from the two largest news outlets in his area that they couldn't be in his and Desiree's presser because they "weren't playing as team members" (they had reported something he didn't like being reported).  They had to acquiesce to Kaine's ground rules or they couldn't stay.  IMO that is manipulating the press and not necessairly that the press hasn't found anything on Kaine (btw...I hope they haven't).



Puzzler..I am hoping this is the last time I have to post this anywhere on the internet.

Look at the date of that interview, look at the time Kaine moved out, look at the date of the move out of Kaine and the sting..............Now look at the first papers to post about the LS.

Kaine knew about the LS at the PR ..he also knew what questions would be asked..they had been submitted..he also knew that those two papers knew about the LS.......LE told them to not allow those papers into the PR..why ..the sting was the very next day.

Go back..check the dates..you we see what I am saying is true.  LE knew that the papers in question had the info on the LS..not all of it..but the affair part....they also knew they had a sting prepared and did not want that to be in jeopardy.

Since that one single press conference..that one only, Kaine, Desiree, Tony, LE have never disallowed any members of the press....not once.

Sometimes 2+2=4.
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« Reply #539 on: August 20, 2010, 08:42:32 PM »


Hi Monkey's,

I guess the Lawyers, Ok'd.  Perhaps they lured Jason over with something spicey he hadn't responded on his thread today. I agree it is so hard to believe. We are above the smut.

We are??   I'm not.
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