Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #24 8/25/10 -8/28/10

[no rose colored glasses]

http://www.katu.com/     On their banner it says Terri will be escorted into the courthouse by sheriffs for today's hearing.

Thank you, NRCG!  I have been watching for updates all day................did not see this.
Pat

 

I'm going to guess it is for her own safety.

[Tamikosmom]

My heart and prayers go out to all of you who have shared such personal stories. You are such strong people to have over come such hardship. you have my unending admiration.

Tracygirl

I was told as a child that I could always trust an adult if a situation arose where there was not an assigned caregiver.  I can honestly say that adults never let me down.  I did not have a clue until I was well into my teens that an adult male could be sexually attracted to a child.

However ... there was an incidence in my daughter's life.  She was ten years old ... attended a Christian school.  She complained for about a couple of weeks that she did not want to go to school on the bus.  She would not initially give a reason.  I told her the the bus service was a God-send and get use to it.  Prior to forming a car pool ... driving back and forth twenty miles was where it was at for the past five years.  Forty miles a day.  Anyways ... one night she came into our room in tears and it all spilled out.  The bus driver who was also a teacher made her uncomfortable.  As soon as she boarded each morning and afternoon ... she was separated from friends and was instructed to sit in the seat behind him while he talked to her.  At school if the opportunity presented itself ... he would put his arm around her shoulder and whisper that she was his little girlfriend.  Considering there was a "no physical contact" rule between teachers and students ... my daughter realized that what may have appeared harmless to some was not right.  In other words ... she had every right to feel uncomfortable.

To this day I feel so guilty for dismissing her complaints regarding the bus without making a effort to find out what it was all about.

I immediately contacted the school.  A meeting was where it was at.  The teacher did not deny my daughter's accusations.  It was one month prior to the end of the school term and ... this teacher did not return in September.  I was not privy to what went on behind the scenes.

Janet   

Bless her heart to finally be able to come to you.  That says alot about her parents. 
"my incident' happened in Convent School.......................but I have never acknowledged it till this very moment...............
and..........that moment is now over.........so back to Kyron.
I am not sure why, but I am 'nervous' about this hearing today............Kyron has really impacted me........I can't describe it. 
TracyGirl, your dream about did me in.........as I have wondered about something close to that happening to Kyron. 
I have read ABOUT  other children:  Caylee, Shania, HC, and on and on back to 1965 when a girl in my hometown was found dead by our 'our' tennis courts at the park.    Kyron is different for me.  It don't read 'about' him.  I feel him.

 

[Scatty]

Does anyone else keep having dreams about this case? I do, everynight I will have a dream. There have been a few cases that I have dreamed about, Sandra Cantu, Amber Dubois, Shantina Smiley and now Kyron.

Last night I dreamed he was heading off to class just like what Terri had said when Kyron told her he forgot his lunch at home. Terri became so upset with him and told him he was going to have to leave and get it  and will have to be tardy, that she would not bring it back to him, he needed to learn. In the long truck ride home she was just yelling at him, calling him names and he was crying. She told him to stop crying now or he would be sorry. She let him out of the truck, gave him the house key and told him to get his lunch and hurry it up, but he had problems with the key in the door and couldn't open it so she went after him. She grabbed the key out of his hand, opened the door and she followed him inside the house, continuing to scream at him. She pushed him to get him to hurry up, he fell to the ground and she just started to slap him and slap him and then began to strangle him, until he became lifeless. I woke up at that point screaming NOOOOO, I could hardly breath and I was shaking. The stress of this case is so difficult at times isn't it? I pray Kyron is ok and that my dream was not anything near what happened to him.

That was a nightmare! I had 2 separate dreams in one night that Kyron was found alive. I hope they come true. Kyron will be found.

[cw618]

Tolerance
It don't read 'about' him.  I feel him
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8404.msg1217046#msg1217046

Tolerance what does that mean exactly, can you expand on that ,say a little more

"I feel him"

[Tracygirl]

Tamikosmom, School is supposed to be a place we are allowed to trust those incharge of our children. It is not your fault and it is ok to forgive yourself.

Tolerance I have had many dreams about Kyron, a few about him being held somewhere and he was in the dark, one was a child preditor coming up to him at school and luring him outside, this one is actually the first that I can recall anyway, that had such detail about Terri and the only one that I have been soooo shaken by. I am haunted by it today, uggg I hate that.

NRCG you changed your avi? I had no idea that was you!

[melisb]

Hi Monkeys, I have a serious question, I can't remember the first 8 1/2 years of my life my Mother was hurriedly wisked away from our hometown by my Dad's family (no joking)and immediatedly divorced from him.  I was never in contact with him and never given an explanation.  My GGF supposed molested my cousin and it was hush hused and he was and alcoholic.  When my Mom ran from my Dad she moved us in with my GGParents (yes, that one and his wife).  I'm positive my Mom knew nothing of these accusations then.  We lived with them 3 yrs. and then they babysat me some.  This is the time I have no knowledge of.  My middle class fam was the don't ask, don't tell type old fashioned, southern family.  I now am to the point of maybe I need to know the root of some of my problems but so far I've lived a dysfunctional normal life.  I cried so hard for you Monkeys after learning your pain and terror you lived through.  I'm so sorry!  I want to hold you, scream for you, take your pain and throw it away.  Most of all I'd go back in your past and take a hammer to the problems, if you know what I mean.  Knowing what you know now...am I better off not knowing if something terrible did happen as long as I am maintaining and things are pretty good?  Sorry Mods, this is OT but in the same vain and some of our children on the threads have endured some of the same with worse endings.  God rest their soul.  God Bless you too survivors!

[Itaryl Moosee]

Katu.com is reporting that Terri is being escorted by deputies into the court house. Is this for the divorce proceedings?

I assume it is. Dang, it's almost 5:00pm here, must be around 2:00pm there.

[monchichi]

Does anyone else keep having dreams about this case? I do, everynight I will have a dream. There have been a few cases that I have dreamed about, Sandra Cantu, Amber Dubois, Shantina Smiley and now Kyron.

Last night I dreamed he was heading off to class just like what Terri had said when Kyron told her he forgot his lunch at home. Terri became so upset with him and told him he was going to have to leave and get it  and will have to be tardy, that she would not bring it back to him, he needed to learn. In the long truck ride home she was just yelling at him, calling him names and he was crying. She told him to stop crying now or he would be sorry. She let him out of the truck, gave him the house key and told him to get his lunch and hurry it up, but he had problems with the key in the door and couldn't open it so she went after him. She grabbed the key out of his hand, opened the door and she followed him inside the house, continuing to scream at him. She pushed him to get him to hurry up, he fell to the ground and she just started to slap him and slap him and then began to strangle him, until he became lifeless. I woke up at that point screaming NOOOOO, I could hardly breath and I was shaking. The stress of this case is so difficult at times isn't it? I pray Kyron is ok and that my dream was not anything near what happened to him.

That was a nightmare! I had 2 separate dreams in one night that Kyron was found alive. I hope they come true. Kyron will be found.

My husband told me that I was sobbing in my sleep the other night.  I guess I have been a little obsessed with finding him.  He has touched so many people with his big grin.  I hope your dreams of finding him alive come true, too.

[melisb]

BREAKING NEWS: Terri Horman has been escorted by sheriff's deputies into the Multnomah County courthouse.
From KATU.com

[Itaryl Moosee]

There's a new Walmart commercial on TV, about back-to-school sales.

One of the two boys looks exactly like Kyron.

It gave me goosebumps to watch it.

[Tolerance]

Tolerance
It don't read 'about' him.  I feel him
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8404.msg1217046#msg1217046

Tolerance what does that mean exactly, can you expand on that ,say a little more

"I feel him"

Nothing profound, CW.
I just feel him..................haven't you ever seen or met someone who you just knew needed to be hugged and loved? who is insecure and yet trying to be what everyone wants them to be? who is lonely and scared .  Who doesn't feel like they are okay?  but deparately wants to be okay?  Someone who would wait in bed for permission to get up?.....  I just feel him.  I can't explain it at all.

[seahorse]

BREAKING NEWS: Terri Horman has been escorted by sheriff's deputies into the Multnomah County courthouse.
From KATU.com

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html

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Terri Horman wore a black suit and skirt and heels, and sat between her lawyers Stephen Houze and divorce attorney Peter Bunch.


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[nana0567]

Katu.com is reporting that Terri is being escorted by deputies into the court house. Is this for the divorce proceedings?

I assume it is. Dang, it's almost 5:00pm here, must be around 2:00pm there.

It's 3:00 P.M. here in Oregon right now. What time was she supposed to go to court?

[Tracygirl]

Does anyone else keep having dreams about this case? I do, everynight I will have a dream. There have been a few cases that I have dreamed about, Sandra Cantu, Amber Dubois, Shantina Smiley and now Kyron.

Last night I dreamed he was heading off to class just like what Terri had said when Kyron told her he forgot his lunch at home. Terri became so upset with him and told him he was going to have to leave and get it  and will have to be tardy, that she would not bring it back to him, he needed to learn. In the long truck ride home she was just yelling at him, calling him names and he was crying. She told him to stop crying now or he would be sorry. She let him out of the truck, gave him the house key and told him to get his lunch and hurry it up, but he had problems with the key in the door and couldn't open it so she went after him. She grabbed the key out of his hand, opened the door and she followed him inside the house, continuing to scream at him. She pushed him to get him to hurry up, he fell to the ground and she just started to slap him and slap him and then began to strangle him, until he became lifeless. I woke up at that point screaming NOOOOO, I could hardly breath and I was shaking. The stress of this case is so difficult at times isn't it? I pray Kyron is ok and that my dream was not anything near what happened to him.

That was a nightmare! I had 2 separate dreams in one night that Kyron was found alive. I hope they come true. Kyron will be found.

My husband told me that I was sobbing in my sleep the other night.  I guess I have been a little obsessed with finding him.  He has touched so many people with his big grin.  I hope your dreams of finding him alive come true, too.

I think Deenie got to me yesterday when she said his grin looked force..It does look like that.

[Tolerance]

For those of you who do research on this case:
I just saw this posted on IS 
not sure if it means anything.
There is a Bonnie Kisiel posting on the Kyron Facebook Page.
I am not much help in research, but I did see someone on SM post this surname.
Mods, if I should not post this please delete and let me know.
Thanks
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:uM3oF2vm0r4J:www.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D138163562885249%26id%3D125336750831264+%22bonnie+kisiel%22&cd=23&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[nana0567]

Does anyone else keep having dreams about this case? I do, everynight I will have a dream. There have been a few cases that I have dreamed about, Sandra Cantu, Amber Dubois, Shantina Smiley and now Kyron.

Last night I dreamed he was heading off to class just like what Terri had said when Kyron told her he forgot his lunch at home. Terri became so upset with him and told him he was going to have to leave and get it  and will have to be tardy, that she would not bring it back to him, he needed to learn. In the long truck ride home she was just yelling at him, calling him names and he was crying. She told him to stop crying now or he would be sorry. She let him out of the truck, gave him the house key and told him to get his lunch and hurry it up, but he had problems with the key in the door and couldn't open it so she went after him. She grabbed the key out of his hand, opened the door and she followed him inside the house, continuing to scream at him. She pushed him to get him to hurry up, he fell to the ground and she just started to slap him and slap him and then began to strangle him, until he became lifeless. I woke up at that point screaming NOOOOO, I could hardly breath and I was shaking. The stress of this case is so difficult at times isn't it? I pray Kyron is ok and that my dream was not anything near what happened to him.

That was a nightmare! I had 2 separate dreams in one night that Kyron was found alive. I hope they come true. Kyron will be found.

My husband told me that I was sobbing in my sleep the other night.  I guess I have been a little obsessed with finding him.  He has touched so many people with his big grin.  I hope your dreams of finding him alive come true, too.

I think Deenie got to me yesterday when she said his grin looked force..It does look like that.

I never noticed it before...but after really looking at the picture I agree and he does look tired.

[Itaryl Moosee]

BREAKING NEWS: Terri Horman has been escorted by sheriff's deputies into the Multnomah County courthouse.
From KATU.com

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html

snip

Terri Horman wore a black suit and skirt and heels, and sat between her lawyers Stephen Houze and divorce attorney Peter Bunch.


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OY! I hope the rumor that she's too sexy to serve jail time doesn't start flying.

Oh yeah! For divorce proceedings.

Shall we take bets as to where the money (if any) is coming from?

[Tamikosmom]

Terri Moulton Horman, focus in stepson Kyron Horman's disappearance, shows for divorce hearing
Published: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 2:40 PM
Updated: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 2:57 PM

Terri Moulton Horman made her first public appearance this afternoon since shortly after her stepson Kyron Horman disappeared, accompanied by her lawyers to Multnomah County Circuit Court about 2:35 p.m.

Horman came up through a back elevator and stoically walked past  TV cameras, news photographers, and reporters to a fifth-floor courtroom for a scheduled 3 p.m. divorce-related hearing before Judge Keith Meisenheimer. She and her lawyers were escorted by three Multnomah County sheriff's deputies to the courtroom.

Terri Horman wore a black suit and skirt and heels, and sat between her lawyers Stephen Houze and divorce attorney Peter Bunch.

Her lawyers are consulting with her as they await the hearing.

Bunch has argued in earlier motions that it would be impossible to proceed with divorce-related issues considering the ongoing criminal investigation into the disappearance of Kaine Horman’s son, 7-year-old Kyron, and the “intense scrutiny and speculation” into his client.

But Kaine Horman’s lawyer, Laura Rackner, has countered that Terri Horman is stalling to “avoid possible self-incrimination” in the ongoing law enforcement inquiry into Kyron’s disappearance.

Kyron was last seen June 4 at Skyline School. Terri Horman took him to school that morning for a science fair, and said she last saw him walking to his class about 8:45 a.m. While

On June 28, Kaine Horman filed for divorce and a restraińing order against his wife, two days after authorities told him that a landscaper had said TerriHorman approached him in late 2009 and offered to pay him to kill her husband.

Kaine Horman left the house with their young daughter, Kiara. He has since réturned, forcing Terri Horman out of their home on Northwest Sheltered Nook Road.

Kyron Horman has not been seen since the morning of June 4 when he attended a science fair at Skyline School. No arrests have been made. Terri Horman was the last known adult to have seen the boy.

While authorities have not named a suspect or person of interest, they remain intently focused on Kyron’s stepmother, trying to track her movements June 4, and that of her friend, DeDe Spicher, saying both were unaccounted for during a nearly three-hour overlapping period from about 10:15 a.m. to 1 p.m.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html

[cw618]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html
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While authorities have not named a suspect or person of interest, they remain intently focused on Kyron’s stepmother, trying to track her movements June 4, and that of her friend, DeDe Spicher, saying both were unaccounted for during a nearly three-hour overlapping period from about 10:15 a.m. to 1 p.m.
-- Maxine Bernstein

so TH wasnt at the gym?

[melisb]

BREAKING NEWS: Terri Horman has been escorted by sheriff's deputies into the Multnomah County courthouse.
From KATU.com

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html

snip

Terri Horman wore a black suit and skirt and heels, and sat between her lawyers Stephen Houze and divorce attorney Peter Bunch.


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Thank you Sea...would love to see actual footage of today.  Wouldn't we all!   What a tense moment when she and KH are finally in the same room.  If I was KH I'd be begging, screaming, pleading with her to give me an answer if she has any.