Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #24 8/25/10 -8/28/10

[Lucky7]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/inde ... n_fun.html
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Kyron Horman's mother, Desiree Young, says his stepmom Terri Moulton Horman risks jail
Published: Friday, August 27, 2010, 11:54 AM Updated: Friday, August 27, 2010, 12:03 PM
Lynne Terry, The Oregonian

BEAVERTON -- Kyron Horman's mother, Desiree Young, had a harsh message today for his stepmother, saying Terri Moulton Horman risks going to jail if she doesn't tell investigators everything she knows.

"Terri, I feel you are at a crossroads in your life," Young said at a news conference in Beaverton. "Police will not stop until they find Kyron. You will go to jail and whoever has been helping you will either have to talk or they will go to jail."

"I believe you will make the right choice to bring Kyron home," she said.

When asked to speculate on why Terri Horman would have been involved in Kyron's disappearance, Young said Horman is angry. "Obviously, she's angry," Young said. "Whatever she's angry about, I don't know what that is for sure."
 
(rest of story on the link)

[Brandi]

Monkey's,


http://media.photobucket.com/image/terri%20horman%20august%2026,%202010/gwenabob/Skyline%2520School/SkylineSchool064.jpg

I notice this photo was posted today, are these the steps that were discussed a few weeks ago? TIA

Hey seahorse!

That picture is not new. It was posted by HollysGmom at radio's forum a month ago, on July 27. It is one of a large collection photographed by one of their members, skyline.

I believe we did discuss how scary they looked.

http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=151.0

[Puzzler]

http://photos.oregonlive.com/4450/gallery/terri_horman_shows_for_divorce_hearing/slideshow/index.html

Check out this pic of Terri from yesterday, she looks mighty lumpy, think perhaps she was wearing some "protection"???

 Hi Babs, Is this an outline of a vest or just the seams/shoulder pads???

No kidding, maybe a very "old" jacket, haven't seen "Shoulder Pads" like that in years, could be making a comeback!  haha       Must have been some serious threats to have warranted a flak jacket......

Do these look like odd bulges?  Or is it my eyes?

Terri Looks very depressed and the white shirt she has on is in some of her old pics looks like the same one.
  I hope she does the right thing and returns Kyron like Deisree pleaded with her to do today.

Yes, they do look like odd bulges. 

Bulges look odd to me, too.  I does really look like she's wearing protection.  The picture getting into the car: look how thick she looks from back to front (the side view).  That is very thick compared to the rest of her.  IMO it makes it even more reasonable to think she's wearing protection.

[hellokitty]

 

Klaas - Can you please take a screen shot of this?

http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5393922236



Now, why would TH Go to another social site when she was so active on FB? Notice who is on her friends list and also her last active date, 3 months ago. That would be May. Also she lists her hometown as Burlington, Or. WTH?


Shannon P is the therapist that Terri would call in the middle of the night as per her FB quiz answer.  I looked her up and have lost all info about her.

She was sleuthed on here, I believe.  Does anyone know where that info is?

And who are these Mikes?  One may be waiting in the wings.

[Lucky7]

Puzzler it was interesting, it seems before and now she has held back some.
 Whoever Terri sent Kyron with may not be willing to let him go back home?

[Lucky7]

Klaas - Can you please take a screen shot of this?

http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5393922236



Now, why would TH Go to another social site when she was so active on FB? Notice who is on her friends list and also her last active date, 3 months ago. That would be May. Also she lists her hometown as Burlington, Or. WTH?


Shannon P is the therapist that Terri would call in the middle of the night as per her FB quiz answer.  I looked her up and have lost all info about her.

She was sleuthed on here, I believe.  Does anyone know where that info is?

And who are these Mikes?  One may be waiting in the wings.

The Tracey H  Terri has Listed is Tracey Horman

[O4Bull]

I think it's time for a division between Kaine and Desiree.  If I were trying to get to TH, I would not present the parents as a team.  Looking at this from TH's perspective, why would she help either of them, since they are most likely the reason for her actions?  If a simple appeal to her to do the right thing was going to work, she would have broken a long time ago.  Hindsight is always 20/20, but here's what I think should have happened long ago.

Separate Kaine and Desiree.  The biggest mistake they have made IMO is having them appear as a team.  There is NO WAY Terri is going to feel one single ounce of sympathy for Desiree now.  She has aligned herself with the enemy and she will be treated as such.  It's possible that nothing would have worked, but when they all ganged up on her, they lost any advantage they may have had in breaking her.  Somebody played this one wrong.  I wonder if they had behavior analysts from the beginning? 

[BabsKats]

http://photos.oregonlive.com/4450/gallery/terri_horman_shows_for_divorce_hearing/slideshow/index.html

Check out this pic of Terri from yesterday, she looks mighty lumpy, think perhaps she was wearing some "protection"???

 Hi Babs, Is this an outline of a vest or just the seams/shoulder pads???

No kidding, maybe a very "old" jacket, haven't seen "Shoulder Pads" like that in years, could be making a comeback!  haha       Must have been some serious threats to have warranted a flak jacket......

Do these look like odd bulges?  Or is it my eyes?

Thats what I thought, or a VERY ill fitting boulder holder!

[can]

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/
Just found this  video, on right side of page, I'm having a hard time getting it to load, but it sounds like a new statement from Desiree

http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/08/desiree_young_reads_a_prepared.html

shes making a statement to Terri

You can tell she's really holding back! I can just imagine what she really wanted to say. I don't think this'll do much good, but you never know, miracles could happen and Terri could decide to do the right thing.

Lucky7 thanks for the link.

Scatty I wonder why she would appeal to Terri?  If Terri dislikes her wouldn't it annoy Terri?
I'm sure Tony is well aware of D's prepared statement.  I can't imagine he disapproved.
At least it keeps Kyron's name out there and shows interest people that Desirree has not changed her focus.

Wishing for a miracle for Kyron.

I'm not an expert (hold your laughter) but if I were to take a guess at what may be more effective, I would say not to let her see you sweat.  I would think that shaming her, which would also anger her, would be more effective.  I don't mean by sharing the sexting info, or that kind of stuff.  Make her sound like a horrible parent to her own children.  She was an overachiever and for proof just look at Kyron's Tree Frog project.  She is/was a teacher and so everything Kyron did was in her mind, a reflection of her.  If he was acting out at school, it reflected poorly on her.  If he did a great job on his project, it reflected positively on her.  All my opinion, but I think that's how she thinks and operates.  That's why she was so concerned about his color coded behavior cards.  She couldn't have him at the school embarrassing her.  How would that reflect on her as a teacher and a parent?

Shaming her would also make her angry, I think. 
While agreeing with you on her penchant for showing herself in a good light, I also think she may have been jealous of Kaine's obvious (in pic.'s)
love and admiration for his child and may have been trying to ally himself
with her in suggesting Kyron's behavior was not as she thought it should be.
I'm still struck by the wedding picture.  As they said their vows, there was dear sweet little Kyron holding his Daddy's hand.   Bet Terri hated that! imo.

[Lucky7]

Klaas - Can you please take a screen shot of this?

http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5393922236



Now, why would TH Go to another social site when she was so active on FB? Notice who is on her friends list and also her last active date, 3 months ago. That would be May. Also she lists her hometown as Burlington, Or. WTH?


Shannon P is the therapist that Terri would call in the middle of the night as per her FB quiz answer.  I looked her up and have lost all info about her.

She was sleuthed on here, I believe.  Does anyone know where that info is?

And who are these Mikes?  One may be waiting in the wings.

The Tracey H  Terri has Listed is Tracey Horman

Tracey Horman Case < maybe this is her? On FB

[Puzzler]

http://photos.oregonlive.com/4450/gallery/terri_horman_shows_for_divorce_hearing/slideshow/index.html

Check out this pic of Terri from yesterday, she looks mighty lumpy, think perhaps she was wearing some "protection"???

 Hi Babs, Is this an outline of a vest or just the seams/shoulder pads???

No kidding, maybe a very "old" jacket, haven't seen "Shoulder Pads" like that in years, could be making a comeback!  haha       Must have been some serious threats to have warranted a flak jacket......

Do these look like odd bulges?  Or is it my eyes?

Lol! The 2nd pic of "odd bulges" !  Maybe the implants are shifting? 

Sorry Monkeys, couldn't resist! 

Sassi,

Midpoint on her white shirt, a shadow, it appears to be a crease on her bustline.  The top is soft-looking, why a crease?

Maybe the vest is something like the “Concealable Body Armor” vest at this link:
http://www.interamer.com/


Or the “Concealable Tactical Stab Proof Vest” at this link:
http://www.bulletproofbodyarmorhq.com/

[mchenry]

http://photos.oregonlive.com/4450/gallery/terri_horman_shows_for_divorce_hearing/slideshow/index.html

Check out this pic of Terri from yesterday, she looks mighty lumpy, think perhaps she was wearing some "protection"???

 Hi Babs, Is this an outline of a vest or just the seams/shoulder pads???

No kidding, maybe a very "old" jacket, haven't seen "Shoulder Pads" like that in years, could be making a comeback!  haha       Must have been some serious threats to have warranted a flak jacket......

Do these look like odd bulges?  Or is it my eyes?

Lol! The 2nd pic of "odd bulges" !  Maybe the implants are shifting? 

Sorry Monkeys, couldn't resist! 

OMG Sassifrass you are so funny!! 

[sassifrass]

http://photos.oregonlive.com/4450/gallery/terri_horman_shows_for_divorce_hearing/slideshow/index.html

Check out this pic of Terri from yesterday, she looks mighty lumpy, think perhaps she was wearing some "protection"???

 Hi Babs, Is this an outline of a vest or just the seams/shoulder pads???

No kidding, maybe a very "old" jacket, haven't seen "Shoulder Pads" like that in years, could be making a comeback!  haha       Must have been some serious threats to have warranted a flak jacket......

Do these look like odd bulges?  Or is it my eyes?

Lol! The 2nd pic of "odd bulges" !  Maybe the implants are shifting? 

Sorry Monkeys, couldn't resist! 

Sassi,

Midpoint on her white shirt, a shadow, it appears to be a crease on her bustline.  The top is soft-looking, why a crease?

Yes, I saw that! It's, IMO, a vest. My comment was me joking. I was feeling silly at that moment! 

What I also noticed was, I saw it on the 12 noon news, when she was going IN the courthouse, she didn't have the "bulge" then.

[O4Bull]

I think it's time for a division between Kaine and Desiree.  If I were trying to get to TH, I would not present the parents as a team.  Looking at this from TH's perspective, why would she help either of them, since they are most likely the reason for her actions?  If a simple appeal to her to do the right thing was going to work, she would have broken a long time ago.  Hindsight is always 20/20, but here's what I think should have happened long ago.

Separate Kaine and Desiree.  The biggest mistake they have made IMO is having them appear as a team.  There is NO WAY Terri is going to feel one single ounce of sympathy for Desiree now.  She has aligned herself with the enemy and she will be treated as such.  It's possible that nothing would have worked, but when they all ganged up on her, they lost any advantage they may have had in breaking her.  Somebody played this one wrong.  I wonder if they had behavior analysts from the beginning? 

Expanding on my own thoughts, LOL.  I think that if it's true KH was cheating on TH, or even if she just thought he was, the best way to play this would have been using Desiree.  Desiree could have said that she knows exactly how it feels, that even though she has forgiven TH for being "the other woman", it was still very painful.  She could have related to Terri, and perhaps that may have been persuasive.  Even if TH didn't suspect or know KH was cheating, Desiree could have appeared to side with Terri, and their shared dislike of Kaine could have been the way to move her.  It will be sad if we find out later that egos wouldn't let something like that happen.

[Puzzler]

Puzzler it was interesting, it seems before and now she has held back some.
 Whoever Terri sent Kyron with may not be willing to let him go back home?

The comment Desiree made about Terri obviously being angry, but she doesn't know what she's angry about...could it be that "someone else" is angry at Terri (for whatever reason) and that's why Kyron is missing?

[Blonde]

August 27, 2010

Video of Desiree Young & Kaine Horman at news conference in Beaverton, Oregon.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i..._plan_fun.html

[O4Bull]

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/
Just found this  video, on right side of page, I'm having a hard time getting it to load, but it sounds like a new statement from Desiree

http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/08/desiree_young_reads_a_prepared.html

shes making a statement to Terri

You can tell she's really holding back! I can just imagine what she really wanted to say. I don't think this'll do much good, but you never know, miracles could happen and Terri could decide to do the right thing.

Lucky7 thanks for the link.

Scatty I wonder why she would appeal to Terri?  If Terri dislikes her wouldn't it annoy Terri?
I'm sure Tony is well aware of D's prepared statement.  I can't imagine he disapproved.
At least it keeps Kyron's name out there and shows interest people that Desirree has not changed her focus.

Wishing for a miracle for Kyron.

I'm not an expert (hold your laughter) but if I were to take a guess at what may be more effective, I would say not to let her see you sweat.  I would think that shaming her, which would also anger her, would be more effective.  I don't mean by sharing the sexting info, or that kind of stuff.  Make her sound like a horrible parent to her own children.  She was an overachiever and for proof just look at Kyron's Tree Frog project.  She is/was a teacher and so everything Kyron did was in her mind, a reflection of her.  If he was acting out at school, it reflected poorly on her.  If he did a great job on his project, it reflected positively on her.  All my opinion, but I think that's how she thinks and operates.  That's why she was so concerned about his color coded behavior cards.  She couldn't have him at the school embarrassing her.  How would that reflect on her as a teacher and a parent?

Shaming her would also make her angry, I think. 
While agreeing with you on her penchant for showing herself in a good light, I also think she may have been jealous of Kaine's obvious (in pic.'s)
love and admiration for his child and may have been trying to ally himself
with her in suggesting Kyron's behavior was not as she thought it should be.
I'm still struck by the wedding picture.  As they said their vows, there was dear sweet little Kyron holding his Daddy's hand.   Bet Terri hated that! imo.

I just don't see Kaine as all that attentive, so the jealous factor didn't occur to me, but someone like TH would want the attention to be on her.  I see Kaine as a father who loves his children, but is also selfish and self-centered.  It's just the vibe I get from him, and I may be totally off.  Terri gives me the impression that she wants everyone to think she's got it all, and knows where it's at.  She wants to come across as wondermom by day, sex kitten by night.  The fact that Kaine said she had begun to complain about her body after Kiara's birth says she was having bouts of insecurity.  Those bouts of insecurity could cause her to start thinking Kaine was being unfaithful.  Something was happening at home, and it was bad.  It was bad enough for her to allegedly look for someone to kill him.  When that didn't happen, Kyron disappeared.  Why?  What was the catalyst?  What was her motive?  Most likely Revenge.  It fits more than jealousy, but it could have been that the jealousy is what caused her to rid herself of Kyron.  It's all so sad and disgusting at the same time.

[Lucky7]

Puzzler it was interesting, it seems before and now she has held back some.
 Whoever Terri sent Kyron with may not be willing to let him go back home?

The comment Desiree made about Terri obviously being angry, but she doesn't know what she's angry about...could it be that "someone else" is angry at Terri (for whatever reason) and that's why Kyron is missing?

I really think that Terri is Angry at Desiree. I think it has to do with her raising Kyron partly. I cant help but wonder also about the DR appointment coming up around the time he goes missing. Was Terri hiding something? maybe she knew something going on with Kyron she wanted to hide from Kaine?

[Lucky7]

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/
Just found this  video, on right side of page, I'm having a hard time getting it to load, but it sounds like a new statement from Desiree

http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/08/desiree_young_reads_a_prepared.html

shes making a statement to Terri

You can tell she's really holding back! I can just imagine what she really wanted to say. I don't think this'll do much good, but you never know, miracles could happen and Terri could decide to do the right thing.

Lucky7 thanks for the link.

Scatty I wonder why she would appeal to Terri?  If Terri dislikes her wouldn't it annoy Terri?
I'm sure Tony is well aware of D's prepared statement.  I can't imagine he disapproved.
At least it keeps Kyron's name out there and shows interest people that Desirree has not changed her focus.

Wishing for a miracle for Kyron.

I'm not an expert (hold your laughter) but if I were to take a guess at what may be more effective, I would say not to let her see you sweat.  I would think that shaming her, which would also anger her, would be more effective.  I don't mean by sharing the sexting info, or that kind of stuff.  Make her sound like a horrible parent to her own children.  She was an overachiever and for proof just look at Kyron's Tree Frog project.  She is/was a teacher and so everything Kyron did was in her mind, a reflection of her.  If he was acting out at school, it reflected poorly on her.  If he did a great job on his project, it reflected positively on her.  All my opinion, but I think that's how she thinks and operates.  That's why she was so concerned about his color coded behavior cards.  She couldn't have him at the school embarrassing her.  How would that reflect on her as a teacher and a parent?

Shaming her would also make her angry, I think. 
While agreeing with you on her penchant for showing herself in a good light, I also think she may have been jealous of Kaine's obvious (in pic.'s)
love and admiration for his child and may have been trying to ally himself
with her in suggesting Kyron's behavior was not as she thought it should be.
I'm still struck by the wedding picture.  As they said their vows, there was dear sweet little Kyron holding his Daddy's hand.   Bet Terri hated that! imo.

I just don't see Kaine as all that attentive, so the jealous factor didn't occur to me, but someone like TH would want the attention to be on her.  I see Kaine as a father who loves his children, but is also selfish and self-centered.  It's just the vibe I get from him, and I may be totally off.  Terri gives me the impression that she wants everyone to think she's got it all, and knows where it's at.  She wants to come across as wondermom by day, sex kitten by night.  The fact that Kaine said she had begun to complain about her body after Kiara's birth says she was having bouts of insecurity.  Those bouts of insecurity could cause her to start thinking Kaine was being unfaithful.  Something was happening at home, and it was bad.  It was bad enough for her to allegedly look for someone to kill him.  When that didn't happen, Kyron disappeared.  Why?  What was the catalyst?  What was her motive?  Most likely Revenge.  It fits more than jealousy, but it could have been that the jealousy is what caused her to rid herself of Kyron.  It's all so sad and disgusting at the same time.

O4 you see things pretty well! I agree with you again. Remember Terri complaining about her hair to deisree - my highlights are too orange! (WHO Cares)! Kyron is gone. Just reading about terri and how she seemed like a spoiled brat growing up. she seemed to grow into a crontolling sexual crzy woman that wants her way. Kaine is Spacey!haha no offense to him.. he stares at Desiree like she hung the moon.IMO

[no rose colored glasses]

I think it's time for a division between Kaine and Desiree.  If I were trying to get to TH, I would not present the parents as a team.  Looking at this from TH's perspective, why would she help either of them, since they are most likely the reason for her actions?  If a simple appeal to her to do the right thing was going to work, she would have broken a long time ago.  Hindsight is always 20/20, but here's what I think should have happened long ago.

Separate Kaine and Desiree.  The biggest mistake they have made IMO is having them appear as a team.  There is NO WAY Terri is going to feel one single ounce of sympathy for Desiree now.  She has aligned herself with the enemy and she will be treated as such.  It's possible that nothing would have worked, but when they all ganged up on her, they lost any advantage they may have had in breaking her.  Somebody played this one wrong.  I wonder if they had behavior analysts from the beginning? 

I totally agree with you on this.