Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #24 8/25/10 -8/28/10

[sassifrass]

It's been quiet in here the past few days and I think it has been mainly because we don't have any new leads. I firmly believe "leaving no stone unturned". I don't want to see the search for Kyron go cold so I'm going to comment on the video that Deenie posted yesterday on the other thread.

One thing that stood out to me was Walmart VB165. When I googled it, the answer was a 52" freezer that can be purchased from Walmart and only weighs 100lbs.. So it's like a freezer you would put in a dorm room. My question is: Would SAR dogs pick up a scent if he is in a freezer and buried in the ground?

I pray he is just stashed but we have to look at other possibilities. 

Hi Sassifras, I somehow must have missed a post...as I didn't see anything about Walmart VB165...would you be able to tell me where I can find that? I do believe that if someone was buried in a freezer that search and rescue dogs could find them. The reason is because they can find people in water, underneath concrete slabs, and just about anywhere. I'm not 100% sure on the freezer, but I think so.

Hi nana0567! It was a post that Deenie made. It links you to a video. http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8399.840 #858

[nana0567]

It's been quiet in here the past few days and I think it has been mainly because we don't have any new leads. I firmly believe "leaving no stone unturned". I don't want to see the search for Kyron go cold so I'm going to comment on the video that Deenie posted yesterday on the other thread.

One thing that stood out to me was Walmart VB165. When I googled it, the answer was a 52" freezer that can be purchased from Walmart and only weighs 100lbs.. So it's like a freezer you would put in a dorm room. My question is: Would SAR dogs pick up a scent if he is in a freezer and buried in the ground?

I pray he is just stashed but we have to look at other possibilities. 

Hi Sassifras, I somehow must have missed a post...as I didn't see anything about Walmart VB165...would you be able to tell me where I can find that? I do believe that if someone was buried in a freezer that search and rescue dogs could find them. The reason is because they can find people in water, underneath concrete slabs, and just about anywhere. I'm not 100% sure on the freezer, but I think so.

Hi nana0567! It was a post that Deenie made. It links you to a video. http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8399.840 #858

Thanks Sassifras! 

[Tamikosmom]

I do believe that I need that nice bubble bath and a glass of wine and relax ... the advice you suggested to Justamama.  Hey ... I don't even drink and ... it is only 9:40 AM here in the Fraser Valley of British Columbia.

 

Have a good day.

Janet

Meh.  LOL  Drop some fruit in it and call it brunch.   

 

[seahorse]

Justamama  I have odd feelings about Jason also, just can't exactly pinpoint and put it down in words. I really have to say that I'm not sure if that is his father who was arrested on child porn. Do we know that for sure?

Hi NoRose & Monkeys,  TraceyGirl I am waiting for my Whiskey:)

The Wolf in Sheeps Clothing?

He visited here to glean information, betcha, for his writings.  He is somewhere else gleaning more info. IMO

[no rose colored glasses]

Justamama  I have odd feelings about Jason also, just can't exactly pinpoint and put it down in words. I really have to say that I'm not sure if that is his father who was arrested on child porn. Do we know that for sure?

Hi NoRose & Monkeys,  TraceyGirl I am waiting for my Whiskey:)

The Wolf in Sheeps Clothing?

He visited here to glean information, betcha, for his writings.  He is somewhere else gleaning more info. IMO

He sure could be doing that, I don't know why though 

[Monkey King]

For something different and off topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IALJXP8LaS4

Who says monkeys Don't Rule?

[seahorse]

For something different and off topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IALJXP8LaS4

Who says monkeys Don't Rule?

MonkeyKing

Thank-you, LOL.        Hysterically funny, OMG!

[Dihannah1]

Brought over from other thread.

Hi all!  Been catching up since earlier today.  I was looking at other pages on SM and came across something I hadn't seen before.  Originally posted by JessStar.

A NATION wide petition asking for a ONE STRIKE LAW for child sex offenders! As parents, grandparents, aunts & uncles, we need to take a minute and sign our names!! How can anyone disagree??

Put in your zip code at the beginning & it will pull up your representatives & emails are sent to them on your behalf!!
http://www.rallycongress.com/one-strike-for-sex-offenders/2961/go/ 

Found it here: 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7486.0

You can edit the letter and I added 2 sentences.  When I sent it I was told I was 1 of 6 in my state to participate.  I will forward to others in my State.  Free and just takes a minute.
_______________________________________________________________
 
My family and myself signed it and forwarded to everybody we know.  How do you tell how many in your state signed it?

[Tracygirl]

My heart and prayers go out to all of you who have shared such personal stories. You are such strong people to have over come such hardship. you have my unending admiration.

[no rose colored glasses]

http://www.katu.com/     On their banner it says Terri will be escorted into the courthouse by sheriffs for today's hearing.

[cw618]

hey monkeys, i noticed everyone is drinking more, i guess wyks is at it 24/7,
with her new avi,LOL i think ill indulge too 
this case will drive you to drink
back to kyron,if TH had anything to do with kyron missing,, a thought
or 2 where he could be, sorry worst case scenario,it has been 81 days
TH had very little time, for burying him,plenty of time too.........

so i got to thinking about the time limitations, i had done a map and time
line here
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8399.msg1214214#msg1214214

so where could you put a body, for a long long time, with out it be discovered
and not take long to get there,and hide it and no one see, what your doing
i came up with a Self Storage unit, ive not looked at any of the properties
yet
map to Self Storage beaverton
http://tinyurl.com/2bvpyez

one time a buddy rented a garage, to store his summer car in
and in this garage was an old stand up side by side freezer,fridge
not plugged in,he wanted to put his harley there too, so had to
move the fridge,to the far back of garage, while moving it the
freezer door opened, i gagged, there was about 10# of meat in
it, that was rotted, and covered in green slime and fur, couldnt
 smell it till the door opened, he had been renting about 2mounth
at that point

[Tamikosmom]

For something different and off topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IALJXP8LaS4

Who says monkeys Don't Rule?

Monkey King

Thank you.  I laughed and laughed and laughed.

I wish I had a video camera handy the other day.  Our sixteen year old golden retriever was lying on the grass about three feet away from a pail of dry food and a pail of water.  Blue Jays were darting back and forth from a nearby tree to the pail of dry food ... taking a piece away with each trip.  Brandi watched the whole scene without budging.  A few were even affording themselves a drink from the other paid.

Since when did birds rule when it comes to a retriever.

Janet
 

[Tracygirl]

Justamama  I have odd feelings about Jason also, just can't exactly pinpoint and put it down in words. I really have to say that I'm not sure if that is his father who was arrested on child porn. Do we know that for sure?

Hi NoRose & Monkeys,  TraceyGirl I am waiting for my Whiskey:)

The Wolf in Sheeps Clothing?

He visited here to glean information, betcha, for his writings.  He is somewhere else gleaning more info. IMO

  how about a nice refreshing maggie instead! We need a monkey with a whiskey bottle!

[Tracygirl]

Does anyone else keep having dreams about this case? I do, everynight I will have a dream. There have been a few cases that I have dreamed about, Sandra Cantu, Amber Dubois, Shantina Smiley and now Kyron.

Last night I dreamed he was heading off to class just like what Terri had said when Kyron told her he forgot his lunch at home. Terri became so upset with him and told him he was going to have to leave and get it  and will have to be tardy, that she would not bring it back to him, he needed to learn. In the long truck ride home she was just yelling at him, calling him names and he was crying. She told him to stop crying now or he would be sorry. She let him out of the truck, gave him the house key and told him to get his lunch and hurry it up, but he had problems with the key in the door and couldn't open it so she went after him. She grabbed the key out of his hand, opened the door and she followed him inside the house, continuing to scream at him. She pushed him to get him to hurry up, he fell to the ground and she just started to slap him and slap him and then began to strangle him, until he became lifeless. I woke up at that point screaming NOOOOO, I could hardly breath and I was shaking. The stress of this case is so difficult at times isn't it? I pray Kyron is ok and that my dream was not anything near what happened to him.

[Tolerance]

http://www.katu.com/     On their banner it says Terri will be escorted into the courthouse by sheriffs for today's hearing.

Thank you, NRCG!  I have been watching for updates all day................did not see this.
Pat

[Tamikosmom]

My heart and prayers go out to all of you who have shared such personal stories. You are such strong people to have over come such hardship. you have my unending admiration.

Tracygirl

I was told as a child that I could always trust an adult if a situation arose where there was not an assigned caregiver.  I can honestly say that adults never let me down.  I did not have a clue until I was well into my teens that an adult male could be sexually attracted to a child.

However ... there was an incidence in my daughter's life.  She was ten years old ... attended a Christian school.  She complained for about a couple of weeks that she did not want to go to school on the bus.  She would not initially give a reason.  I told her the the bus service was a God-send and get use to it.  Prior to forming a car pool ... driving back and forth twenty miles was where it was at for the past five years.  Forty miles a day.  Anyways ... one night she came into our room in tears and it all spilled out.  The bus driver who was also a teacher made her uncomfortable.  As soon as she boarded each morning and afternoon ... she was separated from friends and was instructed to sit in the seat behind him while he talked to her.  At school if the opportunity presented itself ... he would put his arm around her shoulder and whisper that she was his little girlfriend.  Considering there was a "no physical contact" rule between teachers and students ... my daughter realized that what may have appeared harmless to some was not right.  In other words ... she had every right to feel uncomfortable.

To this day I feel so guilty for dismissing her complaints regarding the bus without making a effort to find out what it was all about.

I immediately contacted the school.  A meeting was where it was at.  The teacher did not deny my daughter's accusations.  It was one month prior to the end of the school term and ... this teacher did not return in September.  I was not privy to what went on behind the scenes.

Janet   

[no rose colored glasses]

http://www.katu.com/     On their banner it says Terri will be escorted into the courthouse by sheriffs for today's hearing.

Thank you, NRCG!  I have been watching for updates all day................did not see this.
Pat

Your welcome

[Tracygirl]

Justamama  I have odd feelings about Jason also, just can't exactly pinpoint and put it down in words. I really have to say that I'm not sure if that is his father who was arrested on child porn. Do we know that for sure?

Hi NoRose & Monkeys,  TraceyGirl I am waiting for my Whiskey:)

The Wolf in Sheeps Clothing?

He visited here to glean information, betcha, for his writings.  He is somewhere else gleaning more info. IMO

  how about a nice refreshing maggie instead! We need a monkey with a whiskey bottle!

Or I can play a game of football with you...
Or I can do a cartwheel! 
Or perhaps you are in the mood for chicken? 
Or a pretty blue flower, would that be nice!
I can draw a nice bubblebath for you! 
We can go back to our childhood and I can clean your room! 

hmmm I just can't find a whiskey icon

[Tamikosmom]

http://www.katu.com/     On their banner it says Terri will be escorted into the courthouse by sheriffs for today's hearing.

Thank you, NRCG!  I have been watching for updates all day................did not see this.
Pat

 

[Tolerance]

My heart and prayers go out to all of you who have shared such personal stories. You are such strong people to have over come such hardship. you have my unending admiration.

Tracygirl

I was told as a child that I could always trust an adult if a situation arose where there was not an assigned caregiver.  I can honestly say that adults never let me down.  I did not have a clue until I was well into my teens that an adult male could be sexually attracted to a child.

However ... there was an incidence in my daughter's life.  She was ten years old ... attended a Christian school.  She complained for about a couple of weeks that she did not want to go to school on the bus.  She would not initially give a reason.  I told her the the bus service was a God-send and get use to it.  Prior to forming a car pool ... driving back and forth twenty miles was where it was at for the past five years.  Forty miles a day.  Anyways ... one night she came into our room in tears and it all spilled out.  The bus driver who was also a teacher made her uncomfortable.  As soon as she boarded each morning and afternoon ... she was separated from friends and was instructed to sit in the seat behind him while he talked to her.  At school if the opportunity presented itself ... he would put his arm around her shoulder and whisper that she was his little girlfriend.  Considering there was a "no physical contact" rule between teachers and students ... my daughter realized that what may have appeared harmless to some was not right.  In other words ... she had every right to feel uncomfortable.

To this day I feel so guilty for dismissing her complaints regarding the bus without making a effort to find out what it was all about.

I immediately contacted the school.  A meeting was where it was at.  The teacher did not deny my daughter's accusations.  It was one month prior to the end of the school term and ... this teacher did not return in September.  I was not privy to what went on behind the scenes.

Janet   

Bless her heart to finally be able to come to you.  That says alot about her parents. 
"my incident' happened in Convent School.......................but I have never acknowledged it till this very moment...............
and..........that moment is now over.........so back to Kyron.
I am not sure why, but I am 'nervous' about this hearing today............Kyron has really impacted me........I can't describe it. 
TracyGirl, your dream about did me in.........as I have wondered about something close to that happening to Kyron. 
I have read ABOUT  other children:  Caylee, Shania, HC, and on and on back to 1965 when a girl in my hometown was found dead by our 'our' tennis courts at the park.    Kyron is different for me.  It don't read 'about' him.  I feel him.