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« on: August 22, 2010, 01:51:04 PM »

What is the political definition of amnesty or immigration reform?  Allowing millions to stay?  Continue to collect welfare and never leave?

In the olden days, there was no welfare.  Immigrants did not come and go to human services or welfare departments and sign up for benefits.  Immigrants came and supported themselves.  Rags to riches stories may be few, but many immigrants made good lives for themselves.

At some point taxation becomes theft.  How many illegal immigrants can working stiffs on Main Street afford? 

Isn't there a human right to keep the profit of your labor?  The money in  your pay envelope?  At what point does government taxation become theft?

Isn't there some kind of human right to keep what you earn, free from government taxation?

Why doesn't the right to keep the fruit of one's labor trump the right of illegal aliens to collect welfare in it's many forms?

Should illegal aliens get the fast track to financial success, while Americans get the shaft?

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 01:54:27 PM »

Why doesn't Washington protect Americans from illegal alien invaders?

"Letter: Threat of illegal immigration is being ignored by Washington"

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Arizona is not trying to close the border for general purposes. They want to protect their citizens from the kidnapping, murders and drugs along with vandalism and theft occurring in record numbers. Our president is favoring illegal immigrants over American citizens. Instead of saying we need an all-encompassing legislative bill for this problem which means amnesty, why not seal our borders before some terrorist comes across with a nuclear device?

Citizens across the country have been murdered, raped and infiltrated with drugs; why not a nuclear device? Would this conversation continue if New York disappeared? Does the president want to expand a voting base so badly he risks our citizens and our national security? There are good people coming over. Sealed borders first, then comprehensive immigration.

Our inner-city kids, who are citizens, can’t find starter jobs. They are up to 50 percent unemployed. Adult citizens face 25 percent real unemployment. Think about it.

more here - http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2010/aug/22/letter-threat-of-illegal-immigration-is-being-by/

If the government sent 20 million illegal aliens home, how many jobs would open up for Americans?  How much less would the nation spend on welfare?
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 02:00:39 PM »

"Another Back Door Amnesty Memo"

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This one seems intended to not only order ICE officials to stop enforcing our nation’s immigration laws, but to tie the hands of local law enforcement officers who come across illegal aliens in the course of their duties.

From Vaughan’s article:

    According to the draft document’s cover e-mail from Ann Yom Steel, a political appointee whose mission seems to be to harass and discourage local agencies who want to help ICE and who want ICE to help them, the agency is responding to the “many concerns [of immigration law enforcement critics] related to immigration detainers, including that they could distort the state criminal process or open the window for pretextual, minor criminal charges.” In other words, ICE believes the ethnic advocacy groups who accuse local cops and sheriffs of abusing their authority by trumping up traffic charges on innocent illegal aliens in order to have them deported. Therefore, all illegal aliens who violate traffic laws will get a free pass from ICE, unless they also happen to have committed other “real” crimes. The policy draft says: “Immigration officers shall not issue a detainer unless an LEA [law enforcement agency] has exercised its independent authority to arrest the alien. Immigration officers shall not issue detainers for aliens who have been temporarily detained by the LEA (i.e. roadside or Terry stops) but not arrested,” although the LEA may hold them without a detainer if ICE is coming right away (don’t hold your breath).

Our federal government is not only attempting to adopt a position of officially ignoring federal law, but is attempting to force local law enforcement authorities to ignore the law as well.

One of the first and primary responsibilities of any government is to protect the lives and property of its citizens.  If a government does not do this, little else it can do matters.  Yet our federal government is zealously adopting a position of refusal–not just dereliction or inability or incompetence, but refusal–to protect the nation’s borders, enforce our laws, and keep criminals (who are criminals by virtue of breaking our immigration and border laws, and frequently other laws) away from the American people.

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2010/08/another-back-door-amnesty-memo/

How many Americans can just ignore the photo-tickets they get?  The traffic tickets they get?  How many Americans can just ignore these things, unless they are also doing a 'real' crime at the same time?

How many illegal aliens use real or made up Social Security numbers to work?  How many use the Social Security numbers of their children?

Why doesn't Washington work for Main Street?
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 02:15:40 PM »

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Notwithstanding fierce partisan politics, Congress has tinkered with Social Security in just about every decade since its enactment1. This tinkering consisted of adding new classes of beneficiaries and adding new benefits (like the G.W. Bush-era prescription drug benefit). And of course, there is the annual spectacle in Congress over the Social Security cost of living adjustment. But there has been little done to truly stabilize the financial situation of Social Security, or more importantly, to reduce the cost of the program. It seems that putting off action has been the most politically expedient solution for Congress.

Yet here we are today with $110 trillion of debt hanging over our heads. This amount of money demands action by our elected representatives in Congress. Nobody wants gray-haired seniors to be thrown out of the system, or to have serious cost-cutting measures affect folks who simply don't have the time remaining or resources available to make other accommodations. But "something" needs to be done, and it will require four disciplines from our elected representatives in Congress: courage, wisdom, honesty, and vision.

Let's face facts. The system is broken; the $110-trillion liability emphatically demonstrates that fact, as do the periodic predictions that the Social Security trust fund will go into the red sometime in the middle of this century. At that time, we will have to deal with not only unfunded liabilities, but broken promises and ruined futures. (And imagine for a moment the consequences of adding 10-20 million low-wage illegal aliens and their extended families to the Social Security system if immigration amnesty becomes a reality.)

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/ida_may_and_the_ponzi_scheme.html

Where is the real time link between contributions and payments?  In places like Mexico and South Korea, it's a simple formula based on actual contributions and a small amount of interest. 

In the US, those that barely qualify may get the same money as those that spend their entire lives working and contributing.  Does the average American worker get a separate/additional check for every 10 year period they qualify?

For some reason, I keep hearing about 'means' testing Social Security.  Why?  Two folks can make the same over their lifetime.  One may save, and the other spend.  In the end, should the 'saver' go without a Social Security check?  The spender get it all?

Why not make a system like they have in South Korea?  When you leave the country, you take your contributions with you!

It seems like Social Security will be used to enslave and burden generations of Americans with debt payable to the rest of the global community, in one way or another.

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