Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #26 8/31/10 - 9/06/10

[Deenie]

Zip
I went to the SS death index and looked up Ronald Smith " deaths recorded via Social Security Administration"  I used the name Ronald Smith and the state of Oregon.

No children come up within the search. 31 recorded deaths came up. All are Men who lived many years.  I know the site is reliable, I found my Dad on it. I did not, nor did anyone in my family register his info. All is registered through the Social Security - Govt. 
Children have to have a SS # issued in the United States in order to show proof of Birth Cert.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
-Don't know if this helps or not, with your search.   

[Bearlyhere]

I checked out Terri's ebay myself and I think it is her.  The big pants bought for 99 cents were probably a gift for her MIL.

Early on , someone said that there was a pic of Terri with th thong and the hand on the privates. I never saw it. I did see the pic of Kaine with his hand on her boob in what looked to be a public place.

So I am wondering if anyone ever saw tha other pic.

I still don't think it's her but admit I could be totally wrong.  That said I have not seen Terri in anything skimpier than this bikini she is wearing for her competition:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2011861&id=1264414625

FYI I'm not even sure this is Terri.  Terri has beefy upper arms:

No, it's not her, it is a picture of me....BARElyhere!

[Deenie]

Is that YOU Bearly? it does not look like Kaine...   

[zippiddy_doo_daw]

Zip
I went to the SS death index and looked up Ronald Smith " deaths recorded via Social Security Administration"  I used the name Ronald Smith and the state of Oregon.

No children come up within the search. 31 recorded deaths came up. All are Men who lived many years.  I know the site is reliable, I found my Dad on it. I did not, nor did anyone in my family register his info. All is registered through the Social Security - Govt. 
Children have to have a SS # issued in the United States in order to show proof of Birth Cert.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
-Don't know if this helps or not, with your search.   

yah Deenie I've looked around there also  searched any way I can think of - a big fat 0 - super strange eh

[Bearlyhere]

Zip
I went to the SS death index and looked up Ronald Smith " deaths recorded via Social Security Administration"  I used the name Ronald Smith and the state of Oregon.

No children come up within the search. 31 recorded deaths came up. All are Men who lived many years.  I know the site is reliable, I found my Dad on it. I did not, nor did anyone in my family register his info. All is registered through the Social Security - Govt. 
Children have to have a SS # issued in the United States in order to show proof of Birth Cert.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
-Don't know if this helps or not, with your search.   

yah Deenie I've looked around there also  searched any way I can think of - a big fat 0 - super strange eh

Zippidy, that is one of my favorite monkeys.  I love the laugh.

[Northern Rose]

I'm lost here .... HELP !!

Sandi Lessman -

Looking into the story she posts all over online about her nephew Ronnie Smith having gotten on the wrong bus at school in Eugene, Oregon - found weeks later in some kind of train car "belly" in Washington state - I cannot find a "legit" news story on it?  Anyone here that's local to Oregon... have you heard of this story actually happening?  She says it happened in 1978 - I've googled about 100 diff variations of the info - "nada" info on it except her story/comments on blogs/etc?
here are some links where it's been posted:

http://connect-uat.nj.com/user/thatkewlgirl/index.html

http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=67659&sid=d3899ec2c1e8c829cdb6e09cdf38979f

I went to http://special.registerguard.com  - a local Eugene, Oregon online newspaper - ran a search thru archives (they go back all the way to the 1800's they claim!)  I searched all of 1977/1978/1979 - Ronnie Smith/Ronald Smith/Ron Smith - nada... not a THING about this little kid missing/found dead/etc - 0
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?as_q=ronnie+smith&num=50&hl=en&btnG=Search+Archives&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_user_ldate=1977&as_user_hdate=1979&lr=&as_src=register-guard&as_price=p0&as_scoring=a

Why can't I find any news articles on it?  Too Old?? I wouldn't think so?  I've dug thru newspaper archives much older - but I really don't know if this is just not posted online anywhere within a "legit" news/info type site
I'm not claiming it is not TRUE - just finding it kinda odd that I cannot find anything about this occuring

Sandi Lessman's own words on MKH's comments section:

Sandi Lessman
Have they checked the rail yards as well? Every idea of where to look is worth doing. They know where he isn't, so time to find him.

In 1978, my 6 yr old nephew, Ronnie Smith, disappeared from his school in Eugene OR. They found him a couple... weeks later inside a 'belly dump' wood chip car in Washington. His school was nowhere near the railroad tracks either. Unfortunately, not a happy ending in our family. But finding him... priceless.
See More
June 14 at 7:59pm
http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=125336750831264&share_id=127799917251411&comments=1#!/posted.php?id=125336750831264&share_id=127799917251411&comments=1#s127799917251411 - under the heading: Dive Teams Search Columbia River - Portland News Story - KPTV Portland
and can also be found digging thru various other Facebook page comments...

May 10 1978 Body of missing 6 year old Ronald D Smith found

http://news.google.ca/newspapers?id=YJQSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3vYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6133,5395436&dq=1978+ron+smith+eugene+or&hl=en

[Bearlyhere]

Is that YOU Bearly? it does not look like Kaine...   

No, it is her evil twin, BAREly!

   

Not Kaine, just raising Cain!

[MuffyBee]

Is that YOU Bearly? it does not look like Kaine...   

No, it is her evil twin, BAREly!

   

Not Kaine, just raising Cain!

   

[zippiddy_doo_daw]

  THANK YOU Northern Rose!!

[nicubird]

Zip
I went to the SS death index and looked up Ronald Smith " deaths recorded via Social Security Administration"  I used the name Ronald Smith and the state of Oregon.

No children come up within the search. 31 recorded deaths came up. All are Men who lived many years.  I know the site is reliable, I found my Dad on it. I did not, nor did anyone in my family register his info. All is registered through the Social Security - Govt. 
Children have to have a SS # issued in the United States in order to show proof of Birth Cert.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
-Don't know if this helps or not, with your search.   

I tired to find verification yesterday as well including Social Security administration death records. Since it occurred in 1978, children were not yet required to have social security numbers to be claimed as dependents. That requirement started in 1986 (1989 for newborns). Still, it would seem like there would have been some news. It's difficult because digital archives were non-existent in 1978, so searches are more limited as well. I cannot find anything to substantiate the story.

[Northern Rose]

THANK YOU Northern Rose!!

You are welcome and nice to meet you.

[nicubird]

I'm lost here .... HELP !!

Sandi Lessman -

Looking into the story she posts all over online about her nephew Ronnie Smith having gotten on the wrong bus at school in Eugene, Oregon - found weeks later in some kind of train car "belly" in Washington state - I cannot find a "legit" news story on it?  Anyone here that's local to Oregon... have you heard of this story actually happening?  She says it happened in 1978 - I've googled about 100 diff variations of the info - "nada" info on it except her story/comments on blogs/etc?
here are some links where it's been posted:

http://connect-uat.nj.com/user/thatkewlgirl/index.html

http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=67659&sid=d3899ec2c1e8c829cdb6e09cdf38979f

I went to http://special.registerguard.com  - a local Eugene, Oregon online newspaper - ran a search thru archives (they go back all the way to the 1800's they claim!)  I searched all of 1977/1978/1979 - Ronnie Smith/Ronald Smith/Ron Smith - nada... not a THING about this little kid missing/found dead/etc - 0
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?as_q=ronnie+smith&num=50&hl=en&btnG=Search+Archives&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_user_ldate=1977&as_user_hdate=1979&lr=&as_src=register-guard&as_price=p0&as_scoring=a

Why can't I find any news articles on it?  Too Old?? I wouldn't think so?  I've dug thru newspaper archives much older - but I really don't know if this is just not posted online anywhere within a "legit" news/info type site
I'm not claiming it is not TRUE - just finding it kinda odd that I cannot find anything about this occuring

Sandi Lessman's own words on MKH's comments section:

Sandi Lessman
Have they checked the rail yards as well? Every idea of where to look is worth doing. They know where he isn't, so time to find him.

In 1978, my 6 yr old nephew, Ronnie Smith, disappeared from his school in Eugene OR. They found him a couple... weeks later inside a 'belly dump' wood chip car in Washington. His school was nowhere near the railroad tracks either. Unfortunately, not a happy ending in our family. But finding him... priceless.
See More
June 14 at 7:59pm
http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=125336750831264&share_id=127799917251411&comments=1#!/posted.php?id=125336750831264&share_id=127799917251411&comments=1#s127799917251411 - under the heading: Dive Teams Search Columbia River - Portland News Story - KPTV Portland
and can also be found digging thru various other Facebook page comments...

May 10 1978 Body of missing 6 year old Ronald D Smith found

http://news.google.ca/newspapers?id=YJQSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3vYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6133,5395436&dq=1978+ron+smith+eugene+or&hl=en

Thank You!!

[Bearlyhere]

http://www.katu.com/news/local/101826908.html


Calendar: Upcoming Kyron-related events

By KATU News and KATU.com Staff

Originally printed at http://www.katu.com/news/local/101826908.html

PORTLAND, Ore. – There are a number events over the next few weeks focused on Skyline School students. As such, we have compiled the following list for those who are interested:

Wednesday, Sept. 1: Godfather's Pizza Fundraiser for Kyron's search effort (see the flier)
Organizers say deliveries are part of the fundraiser, but they cannot accept cash. Each location will have a table where the public can purchase a Kyron wristband or buy raffle tickets. The fundraiser takes 25 percent of all Wednesday sales from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m., and donates proceeds to Kyorn's search fund. Raffle winners will be contacted Wednesday night.

Organizers of the Godfather's Pizza Fundraiser also have set up a P.O. Box to send letters (no donations) to the Horman family. Letters sent here will be given to them every two-weeks:

            Hope for Kyron
            P.O. Box 1192
            Tualatin, OR 97062

Thursday, Sept. 2: Skyline School parent meeting.
The principal of Skyline School will talk with parents about what to expect this coming fall. See the “Principal’s Message” at http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/skyline/.

Sometime this coming week: The Wall of Hope goes back up at its new spot
The new “Wall of Hope” will go up at the Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue station on Skyline Boulevard. Date tbd.

Sometime this coming week: Fencing replaced at Skyline
Replacement fencing will  go up at Skyline School. School district officials say they have extra fencing on hand and have donation offers to cover costs involved in putting it up.

Tuesday, Sept. 7: First day back for students at Skyline School

Thursday, Sept. 9: Kyron’s eighth birthday
There is a celebration at West Main Church of Christ in Medford at 7 p.m. They will be playing music that he loves. The church is at 1701 W. Main St. Call (541) 772-9640.

Sunday, Sept. 12: Wilsonville fundraiser for Kyron's search
Volunteers are putting together an event and fundraiser at the Wilsonville Family Fun Center and Bullwinkle’s Restaurant in Wilsonville. The first $4 of every ride or bracelet sold will go toward Kyron's search fund. The center and restaurant is at 29111 S.W. Town Center Loop West in Wilsonville. Call (503) 685-5000.

If we missed any major Skyline student-related events, please let us know.

The most important thing is missing from this calendar......

the day KYRON COMES HOME!

 

[pfaubush]

Zip
I went to the SS death index and looked up Ronald Smith " deaths recorded via Social Security Administration"  I used the name Ronald Smith and the state of Oregon.

No children come up within the search. 31 recorded deaths came up. All are Men who lived many years.  I know the site is reliable, I found my Dad on it. I did not, nor did anyone in my family register his info. All is registered through the Social Security - Govt. 
Children have to have a SS # issued in the United States in order to show proof of Birth Cert.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
-Don't know if this helps or not, with your search.   

Kids weren't required to have a ssn until they began working until late '80's, early 90's. If he didn't have a ssn, he may not come up.

[zippiddy_doo_daw]

  RIP little Ronnie Smith

[Deenie]

Zip
I went to the SS death index and looked up Ronald Smith " deaths recorded via Social Security Administration"  I used the name Ronald Smith and the state of Oregon.

No children come up within the search. 31 recorded deaths came up. All are Men who lived many years.  I know the site is reliable, I found my Dad on it. I did not, nor did anyone in my family register his info. All is registered through the Social Security - Govt. 
Children have to have a SS # issued in the United States in order to show proof of Birth Cert.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
-Don't know if this helps or not, with your search.   

yah Deenie I've looked around there also  searched any way I can think of - a big fat 0 - super strange eh

Yep, kinda makes me wonder if " Ronnie is not his real name" That he was given the name Ronnie to protect him? This ugly world of " child trafficking, ick, ugh, puke" she could have made the name Ronnie up?  Smith?  That she is telling her accounts of an actual child - who is given a pseudo name? possibly even a pseudo city and state? so she cannot be traced to the child. Who is now not a child. If he/she is dead or ? or is Dead in the words of " emotionally dead" .. I do not know. I can't take my brain there. I have watched a few HBO specials on Portland Or and Seattle WA - on runaways. And it is disturbing to say the least. And these " Teens - Preteens" come in droves to " find Freedom" in Oregon and Washington.
My cousin who is in her 30's. She left home and went poof when she was in her mid-20s. She looks very young for her age. She is very small in stature. She was an artist
( accomplished/earning money here/home) never though graduated from High School. She went to the best of private schools. She was given everything you can imagine hand over fist - And she ran away.  She found herself in WA. She joined a street Society Cult. She was brainwashed. She was doing every drug you can imagine. Eating out of dumpsters, whatever it took. She was shuffled around like a used brown paper bag. She shaved her head bald. She was emaciated. This was not a religious group. This was a group of ?? Escape? Buck the System? Sex related, pimping ones bodies on the street ? she won't talk about it. She was " in it for 3 years " All I know is that her Dad found her, and he dragged her home. He traced the few calls she made. He found her and .. she is now in her 30's. To this day, I think whatever happened to her, she will never be the same. I don't think she can remember most of it. I think she has blocked it from her memory. I have known her and had her in my life since she was an infant. I was her first babysitter, and I was with her for her first 10 years every summer. She has changed so much. She when she was a little girl, " She lit up a room with her presence, she was Awe to all "  Now she enters the room and she is not the same. She lost her " Glow".  She is Loved though, Very much. 
 
 
 
 

[Bearlyhere]

Klaas, here is the article about Sandi L who has now been deleted from THS***p.  She was an avid supporter of TH.  Very avid.  I wonder how she feels now?


http://www.katu.com/news/local/91995929.html

hellokitty ... sandi lessman is still on STHP .. she posted about 3 hours ago even on the main Wall

Also I thought there was some discussion that their might be more than one Sandi Lessman because the ages were off.

Klaas, you have a mind like a steel trap.  How you remember all of this is beyond me...like way way way beyond me, over my head and out the window.

[5150monkey]

Good evening monkeys!
 
I believe the point TH was trying to make about sitting in her car to talk/text on her cell, is because of the new law that was passed here in Oregon.   No talking/texting on the cell while driving. 

If we are to believe her, she only does it while sitting in the drive so she can get on with her bad self......

[Bearlyhere]

as for the boat photo's ... kinda looks like Kaine in Terri's "wedding" outfits ... her arms aren't so big in all the wedding shots?  

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Kyron%20Horman%20%20-OR-/?start=160

I had to go look quick because I thought you meant Kaine was wearing Terri's wedding outfits.

I cannot stand to look at another picture of Desiree, my heart feels like it has been ripped from my chest just looking at her.  I cannot imagine being in her skin.  

This whole thing is sickening.  I hope no child goes missing ever again, but I realize that is impossible in the climate we live in.  We need to advocate for more laws to slow it down.  It is much too prevalent.

[nana0567]

THANK YOU Northern Rose!!

You are welcome and nice to meet you.

Yes thanks Northern Rose!!!