Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #27 9/06/10 - 9/12/2010

[klaasend]

Why couldnt the groundskeeper be involved?  The police havent found out that Name Redacted has a sex offender father so maybe they didnt know David Stensens background?

I think you might find this interesting.. there is a STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL who looks suspiciously like David Stensen listed on this website.. as a sex offender http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/OffenderSearchCriteria.aspx type in David Stensen as the name and out come two records - one is STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL - he looks a lot like this groundskeeper guy - I wonder if it is him?

1.  How do you know the police don't know that Name Redacted has a sex offender father?
2.  That was brought up when Stensen first gave his interview.  That guy doesn't look AT ALL like "our" David Stensen.  Also 02/19/09    INCARCERATED (TEXAS)

If you read the page carefully he is on probation right now (see bottom) - change of status 2/19/2009
and I still think it looks like him

If you still think they look alike then I'll have to respectfully suggest you either put both photos together in photoshop or some other photo editing program and look a little closer or get a larger monitor. Their facial structure is totally different.  Have you looked at the older photos of Stanson from years past compared to the older photos that David Stensen has on his website?  THEY LOOK NOTHING ALIKE. 

[zippiddy_doo_daw]

GREY!!     speaking of "productive"  think you need to stock up that liquor cabinet - I'm gunna take up drinking with the rest of you monkeys   

[Nana29]

GREY!!     speaking of "productive"  think you need to stock up that liquor cabinet - I'm gunna take up drinking with the rest of you monkeys   

    Put that weapon down first please   

[sebastian]

Why couldnt the groundskeeper be involved?  The police havent found out that Name Redacted has a sex offender father so maybe they didnt know David Stensens background?

I think you might find this interesting.. there is a STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL who looks suspiciously like David Stensen listed on this website.. as a sex offender http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/OffenderSearchCriteria.aspx type in David Stensen as the name and out come two records - one is STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL - he looks a lot like this groundskeeper guy - I wonder if it is him?

1.  How do you know the police don't know that Name Redacted has a sex offender father?
2.  That was brought up when Stensen first gave his interview.  That guy doesn't look AT ALL like "our" David Stensen.  Also 02/19/09    INCARCERATED (TEXAS)

If you read the page carefully he is on probation right now (see bottom) - change of status 2/19/2009
and I still think it looks like him

If you still think they look alike then I'll have to respectfully suggest you either put both photos together in photoshop or some other photo editing program and look a little closer or get a larger monitor. Their facial structure is totally different.  Have you looked at the older photos of Stanson from years past compared to the older photos that David Stensen has on his website?  THEY LOOK NOTHING ALIKE. 

I think he is incarcerated in Texas, perhaps with Name Redacted2.

A 64-year-old man who dodged jail in a molestation case in the 1990s was sentenced to 17.5 years in a federal prison Friday for distributing child pornography.
David Michael Stanson pleaded guilty in April, admitting that he used peer-to-peer computer software to access and distribute more than 3,000 images and 150 videos of child porn over the Internet.

On Aug. 29, 2008, agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement served a search warrant at his home and seized four computers and three external hard drives. A forensic analysis of the equipment turned up the child porn.
Stanson's lawyer sought a five-year term, but Assistant United States Attorney Tracy Thompson argued for a sentence in the recommended range of 210 to 240 months.

U.S. District Judge Fred Biery chose 210 months, in part, after learning Stanson had gotten deferred adjudication in 1994 for pleading no contest to charges of unlawfully touching a 15-year-old. Biery also ordered Stanson to serve a lifetime under federal supervision should he ever get out of prison.

[zippiddy_doo_daw]

GREY!!     speaking of "productive"  think you need to stock up that liquor cabinet - I'm gunna take up drinking with the rest of you monkeys   

    Put that weapon down first please   

 

MAYBE a good monitor cleaning is in order .. I know it help's me see things a 'lil more clearly online

[Grey]

Look at the noses ???????  Turf Tech's is puffy/bulbous .... guy from TX has a pinched-in nose that's pretty LONG for his face .....
NO - NADA - ZILCH similiarities to me .....  nope

Two eyes, a nose, and a mouth is enough of a resemblance for some.

[sebastian]

So US Customs gets involved with child porn? Maybe because some of the photos come from foreign countries?

[sassifrass]

IMO Everyone is suspect in this case.   
Mr Stenson wears glasses. On June 4th is was raining that day. When you have to wear glasses in the rain, they have a tendency to fog up when it rains. If he was following OSHA codes, because he worked for the city, he would have to be wearing goggles to prevent anything from fly up into his eyes. So his vision would be questionable.

Again, IMO, there is no way that his sight was 100% that day. JMO. 

Good to see you, sassifrass!

Not sure about OSHA codes, but Dave apparently does not wear corrective lens eyeglasses all the time. Maybe when he is working he does, though.

Could be for driving?

Yes.

And I should have added that I don't believe Dave has anything to do with this case except for perhaps any information he could give to the Grand Jury about his observations while at work on June 4.

If they are for driving, which I doubt, then that means he is near sighted. He obviously , by the pic wears the sun shade, like Kyron. I wear glasses and I live in Oregon. If I wear them when I go out, my vision gets impaired. I have to keep wiping them off. Also when someone is taking a pic of me, I take my glasses off, so the pic of him without glasses doesn't mean anything. It was probably vanity.

As Brandi so eloquently stated, I don't believe he has anything to do with Kyron missing, but I wanted to point out that his visual recollection, may not be 100% correct.

[klaasend]

Thank you Sebastian!

[sebastian]

Thank you Sebastian!

Your welcome! Don't throw bananas at me, but shave off some pounds, clean him up and I did see a resemblance, lol! Of course I had to do some checking............just in case, lol!

[sassifrass]

Look at the noses ???????  Turf Tech's is puffy/bulbous .... guy from TX has a pinched-in nose that's pretty LONG for his face .....
NO - NADA - ZILCH similiarities to me .....  nope

Two eyes, a nose, and a mouth is enough of a resemblance for some.

Respectfully Grey, This is not a joke case! I don't think it's ok to dis a Monkeys opinion and make a joke of it. Every Monkey has a right to post their opinions and thoughts on the case.

[klaasend]

Thank you Sebastian!

Your welcome! Don't throw bananas at me, but shave off some pounds, clean him up and I did see a resemblance, lol! Of course I had to do some checking............just in case, lol!

Did you look at the photos when Stanson was younger compared to when Stensen was younger?  NOT CLOSE 

[Monkey King]

Hey!  We're only lookiing at various people in the spirit of bringing Kyron home.

[seemeatthebeach]

Thanks.  There has to be a simple logical reason for the SS.

Sorry, I'm behind and it's probably been mentioned, but what about the Murder for Hire?  Would that fall into such a category, or a ransom?

I wish I cold find the docs with the SS info. IIRC, the SS guy had some high tech software program that works with cell phone pings, triangulation, etc.

[msollicito]

Respectfully, this attitude that only Terri or Dede or possibly Jason could be involved is getting a bit old..
I think there are many players involved in this case - I am guessing Terri is one of them, but I think there are others..
Some of us want to explore possibilities of others being involved..
If we get it wrong, fine.. its just our opinions..
If you dont want to discourage people from lateral thinking and exploring other possibilities I think you should lay off this attitude..
.. I still think it looks like him!!   

[Monkey King]

[klaasend]

Respectfully, this attitude that only Terri or Dede or possibly Jason could be involved is getting a bit old..
I think there are many players involved in this case - I am guessing Terri is one of them, but I think there are others..
Some of us want to explore possibilities of others being involved..
If we get it wrong, fine.. its just our opinions..
If you dont want to discourage people from lateral thinking and exploring other possibilities I think you should lay off this attitude..
.. I still think it looks like him!!   

You have got to be kidding?  I discouraged YOU thinking that Stanson was Stensen and it was just proven that Stanson is incarcerated PLUS they look nothing alike.  I was right.  It was wrong to think they could be the same person.  STENSEN has spoken with LE and the Grand Jury. There is no reason to believe he is involved at all.  No more so than any other teacher or parent that was at the school that day.

It is my job to stop BS from being posted here in a missing persons case.  When I see something is WRONG, like Stanson, I have to say something. 

[Brandi]

I know this is old news, but it has been bugging me a lot lately. Does anyone know if it is routine to have the secret service involved with missing childrens cases?

Can we have the list of law enforcement agencies that have assisted in the Kyron Horman investigation?

Gresham Police, Fairview Police, Troutdale Police, Portland Police, Port of Portland Police, Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office, Clackamas County DA MCT, Multnomah County DA’s investigators, Washington County District Attorney’s Office, Washington County Sheriff’s Office, Gladstone Police, Oregon City Police, Milwaukie Police, Canby Police, Lake Oswego Police, West Linn Police, Vancouver Police, Hillsboro Police, Beaverton Police, FBI, DEA, ICE, Secret Service, DOD Defense Criminal Investigative Services, Oregon DOJ, Oregon State Police.

This list does not include search and rescue resources.

I don't think the SS being involved is out of the ordinary. They were involved in the Caylee Anthony case as well.

Hi Brandi,
I quit following the Caylee Anthony case long ago. It made me toooooo mad and upset. Do you know what the SS did in that case? Thank you!

Hi Sebastian,

"As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, Congress mandated the U.S. Secret Service to provide forensic/technical assistance in matters involving missing and exploited children. The Secret Service offers this assistance to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. On April 30, 2003, President George W. Bush signed the PROTECT Act of 2003, known as the "Amber Alert Bill", which gave full authorization to the U.S. Secret Service in this area."

http://www.secretservice.gov/partner_ncmec.shtml

[sebastian]

Thank you Sebastian!

Your welcome! Don't throw bananas at me, but shave off some pounds, clean him up and I did see a resemblance, lol! Of course I had to do some checking............just in case, lol!

Did you look at the photos when Stanson was younger compared to when Stensen was younger?  NOT CLOSE  

Klaas,
If posting this is inappropriate, please let me know. I was looking to see where Stanson is spending his time and I found this. [XLS] Sheet1 - www.centralmediaserver.com File Format: Microsoft Excel - View as HTML
455, dominguez unit, incarcerated, MARTINEZ,LUIS ALBERTO, 19830808 ...... 1791, webay 4 u, packer, STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL, 19460402 ...
www.centralmediaserver.com/WOAI/sexoffender3.xls - Similar


Apparently someone spent a lot of time putting together a HUGE list of sex offenders and their places of employment etc. It is right there on the web, so it is not like it has not been seen before. It might be useful in other cases.

[sebastian]

I know this is old news, but it has been bugging me a lot lately. Does anyone know if it is routine to have the secret service involved with missing childrens cases?

Can we have the list of law enforcement agencies that have assisted in the Kyron Horman investigation?

Gresham Police, Fairview Police, Troutdale Police, Portland Police, Port of Portland Police, Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office, Clackamas County DA MCT, Multnomah County DA’s investigators, Washington County District Attorney’s Office, Washington County Sheriff’s Office, Gladstone Police, Oregon City Police, Milwaukie Police, Canby Police, Lake Oswego Police, West Linn Police, Vancouver Police, Hillsboro Police, Beaverton Police, FBI, DEA, ICE, Secret Service, DOD Defense Criminal Investigative Services, Oregon DOJ, Oregon State Police.

This list does not include search and rescue resources.

I don't think the SS being involved is out of the ordinary. They were involved in the Caylee Anthony case as well.

Hi Brandi,
I quit following the Caylee Anthony case long ago. It made me toooooo mad and upset. Do you know what the SS did in that case? Thank you!

Hi Sebastian,

"As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, Congress mandated the U.S. Secret Service to provide forensic/technical assistance in matters involving missing and exploited children. The Secret Service offers this assistance to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. On April 30, 2003, President George W. Bush signed the PROTECT Act of 2003, known as the "Amber Alert Bill", which gave full authorization to the U.S. Secret Service in this area."

http://www.secretservice.gov/partner_ncmec.shtml

Thank you Brandi!