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« Reply #360 on: September 15, 2010, 02:56:46 PM »

Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation
http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

Staton told the Portland Business Alliance Wednesday morning in downtown Portland that he was confident the case would be solved, but said the time had come to narrow the team of investigators to a small group of officials from a number of law enforcement agencies.
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« Reply #361 on: September 15, 2010, 03:02:44 PM »

Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation
http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

Staton told the Portland Business Alliance Wednesday morning in downtown Portland that he was confident the case would be solved, but said the time had come to narrow the team of investigators to a small group of officials from a number of law enforcement agencies.

Thanks, zippiddy.

The only really encouraging quote I saw there though, was:

“This case is farther along than most people realize,” Staton told alliance members.

I sure hope so.
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« Reply #362 on: September 15, 2010, 03:06:02 PM »

Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation
http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

Staton told the Portland Business Alliance Wednesday morning in downtown Portland that he was confident the case would be solved, but said the time had come to narrow the team of investigators to a small group of officials from a number of law enforcement agencies.

Thanks, zippiddy.

The only really encouraging quote I saw there though, was:

“This case is farther along than most people realize,” Staton told alliance members.

I sure hope so.
Thanks, I sure hope so also.
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« Reply #363 on: September 15, 2010, 03:06:56 PM »

This case is farther along than most people realize,” Staton told alliance members.

According to Staton, his office is working on the reorganization with Multnomah County District Attorney Michael Schrunk, who also addressed the gathering.

Schrunk said the task force was being formed to create a “viable work plan” to continue pursuing the information that has been collected in the case to date. Despite more than 4,000 tips that have come into investigators, Schrunk said there is still no “smoking gun” that proves what happened to the missing boy.

“It is not a slam-dunk case,” Schrunk said.
A stack of binders

Staton said the plan he is developing with Schrunk is expected to guide the investigation for the next four months.

Kyron Horman was last seen at Skyline School on Friday, June 4. He was brought there by his stepmother, Terri Horman, who says she left without him around 8:45 a.m.

Kyron’s 8th birthday was in early September. His family still holds out hope that he will be found and returned home.

Kyron’s parents have accused Terri Horman of being involved in the boy’s disappearance. Although the investigation has focused on her whereabouts that day, she has not been named a suspect or even person of interest.

“What would actually make the case is evidence that is clearcut,” Staton said.

Staton said the investigation has so far produced a large stack of six-inch binders full of information on the case. He suggested that a number of other cases were likely to result from the investigation, but did not elaborate on them.[/i]

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/print_story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

"The investigation is father along than we realize" -- I hope so!

About the last sentence above... a number of other cases were likely to result from the investigation...

What does that mean?

Murder for hire, kidnapping, blackmail?

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« Reply #364 on: September 15, 2010, 03:17:10 PM »

OK, here's some speculation about James that will probably not win me any popularity contests:

What if Terri is covering up for James?   

I've often wondered the same, Kokos Cat.  It's kind of a subject I've tiptoed around tho, since he is a minor, and am guessing we aren't able to post much of our speculations about this unless/until he is named a POI.  Which in this case, I doubt anyone will ever be named that.  Sigh. 

But we can, of course, do whatever digging we want to of any public records and such, and keep whatever info we may find out (and/or) speculations to ourselves for now.  Until/unless such a time as we can post those. 

Just want to add.. while I'd rather think a minor wouldn't/couldn't be involved in anyone's disappearance/death, there have been minors who weren't looked at initially, who turned out to be the guilty party.  (With adults in the case scrambling to cover them).  I can think of at least one case where this happened, off the top of my head, which was discussed here at SM... 16 yr old girl allegedly killed a young neighbor girl.  It's NOT like it never ever could possibly happen.  Dangit. 

But about James?  I dunno.  And until/unless LE comes out with some actual facts in this case, we sit here and wonder about all the possibilities.  I will say, there are many unanswered questions about James.  Things that we've heard from family members over time, who seemingly have either contradicted themselves, or perhaps have been somewhat 'out of the loop' and mis-spoke. 

James was enrolled at high school in Roseburg, where he stayed sometimes with Terri's parents and sometimes with his bio-dad.  School supposedly wasn't out for the summer yet..  but..  James supposedly was off on a weekend 'scout camping trip' with his bio-dad. 

He supposedly stayed at the 'campout' with his bio-dad that weekend..  but.. he was also reported to have been at the Horman home that weekend (as well as scheduled to remain there the following week too) for a visit.  (What about that being the last week of school?  What about finals?) But was picked up early by his bio-dad when things at the Horman home got out of hand.  (Terri yelling about James not saying anything about her on the phone).

These things have already been posted and discussed back in threads somewhere, so no one needs to smack me down for bringing it up again, IMO.  There are more questions, more speculation, which I have in my notes but cannot post yet.. not without ducking and running.  Just wanted to say, no the subject won't win us any popularity contests, but we're not here for that anyway.  We're here to see justice brought for Kyron.  I do agree with you, this needs to be considered as one of the many possibilities.. even if we have to do it on our own without posting about it yet. 

All IMO. 
 

 
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« Reply #365 on: September 15, 2010, 03:18:57 PM »




"The investigation is father along than we realize" -- I hope so!

About the last sentence above... a number of other cases were likely to result from the investigation...

What does that mean?

Murder for hire, kidnapping, blackmail?



Add drugs and porn to your list.

It is all very scary for Kyron.
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« Reply #366 on: September 15, 2010, 03:20:01 PM »

I am surprised that DeDe did not comment on JW.
I have no idea if TJones really got the info from DeDe, can't even guess, but as a woman who was unkindly exposed by him, she may be a much better person than I.  just sayin'
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« Reply #367 on: September 15, 2010, 03:28:36 PM »

Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation
http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

Staton told the Portland Business Alliance Wednesday morning in downtown Portland that he was confident the case would be solved, but said the time had come to narrow the team of investigators to a small group of officials from a number of law enforcement agencies.

Thanks zippiddy! 

And hmmm.. the part I bolded above sounds like a nice polite, PC way of saying that they are 'scaling back' the investigation.  And that, IMO, (at least in some other cases) has translated to .. this case has gotten/is going .. cold.  And if that is true, how sad. 

All IMO. 

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« Reply #368 on: September 15, 2010, 03:37:57 PM »

I am surprised that DeDe did not comment on JW.
I have no idea if TJones really got the info from DeDe, can't even guess, but as a woman who was unkindly exposed by him, she may be a much better person than I.  just sayin'

I saw one comment puzzler posted about JW:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1170793/pg63


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Jasons name change;
Dede said that Jason changed his name around Dec '04.
She said she did meet his father, but never talked about Jasons name change with him.


I, as well, take a huge grain of salt with his posts.
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« Reply #369 on: September 15, 2010, 03:40:26 PM »

Multnomah County focuses investigation into disappearance of Kyron Horman
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/multnomah_county_focuses_inves.html

Until now, the sheriff’s office has drawn on a wide range of resources, including the FBI and other federal agencies and Portland-area law enforcement agencies, with various officers working on different aspects of the case at different times.

But now the strategy is shifting, Lindstrand said.

“This case is further along than most people realize,” she said.

She indicated that the task force would include members from the Multnomah County Major Crimes Team and the FBI.


(same story as last posting,pretty much)
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« Reply #370 on: September 15, 2010, 03:41:29 PM »

I am surprised that DeDe did not comment on JW.
I have no idea if TJones really got the info from DeDe, can't even guess, but as a woman who was unkindly exposed by him, she may be a much better person than I.  just sayin'

I saw one comment puzzler posted about JW:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1170793/pg63


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Jasons name change;
Dede said that Jason changed his name around Dec '04.
She said she did meet his father, but never talked about Jasons name change with him.


I, as well, take a huge grain of salt with his posts.

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« Reply #371 on: September 15, 2010, 03:53:33 PM »

Yes the subject of James is taboo and that is ok, he is a minor. I have done research behind the scenes and it does seem there are two stories. One his grandma said, "he is with his bio dad on a boy scout camping trip" the other one from the person he was supposedly on the camping trip with that stated he was with Terri. James does drive and I have read somewhere he had a car to use so he could have driven up to Portland in the morning after Kaine left. However, when I considered he has never been in trouble or really has no other issues, I came to the conclusion (for the time being) that Grandma was protecting James from the media frenzy by saying he was not there. I believe he came down with Grandma and Grandpa on Saturday when they came down. I think Tarver spoke the truth when he said he was at Terri's and he was.
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« Reply #372 on: September 15, 2010, 04:31:26 PM »

Thank-you so much Puzzler 

Double-Ditto, Puzzler.

I knew the posts were over there, skimmed one page, and left. Just was not up to digging through everything. I really appreciate your putting them over here. Nice and neat.
 

ditto me too,i had a 3hr meeting, and didnt have time to bring it over
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« Reply #373 on: September 15, 2010, 04:36:09 PM »

“This case is further along than most people realize,” she said.

better than no comment
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« Reply #374 on: September 15, 2010, 04:36:37 PM »

Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation
http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

Staton told the Portland Business Alliance Wednesday morning in downtown Portland that he was confident the case would be solved, but said the time had come to narrow the team of investigators to a small group of officials from a number of law enforcement agencies.

Thanks, zippiddy.

The only really encouraging quote I saw there though, was:

“This case is farther along than most people realize,” Staton told alliance members.

I sure hope so.
Thanks, I sure hope so also.

I sure hope so, too.

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« Reply #375 on: September 15, 2010, 04:42:38 PM »

This case is farther along than most people realize,” Staton told alliance members.

According to Staton, his office is working on the reorganization with Multnomah County District Attorney Michael Schrunk, who also addressed the gathering.

Schrunk said the task force was being formed to create a “viable work plan” to continue pursuing the information that has been collected in the case to date. Despite more than 4,000 tips that have come into investigators, Schrunk said there is still no “smoking gun” that proves what happened to the missing boy.

“It is not a slam-dunk case,” Schrunk said.
A stack of binders

Staton said the plan he is developing with Schrunk is expected to guide the investigation for the next four months.

Kyron Horman was last seen at Skyline School on Friday, June 4. He was brought there by his stepmother, Terri Horman, who says she left without him around 8:45 a.m.

Kyron’s 8th birthday was in early September. His family still holds out hope that he will be found and returned home.

Kyron’s parents have accused Terri Horman of being involved in the boy’s disappearance. Although the investigation has focused on her whereabouts that day, she has not been named a suspect or even person of interest.

“What would actually make the case is evidence that is clearcut,” Staton said.

Staton said the investigation has so far produced a large stack of six-inch binders full of information on the case. He suggested that a number of other cases were likely to result from the investigation, but did not elaborate on them.[/i]

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/print_story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

"The investigation is father along than we realize" -- I hope so!

About the last sentence above... a number of other cases were likely to result from the investigation...

What does that mean?

Murder for hire, kidnapping, blackmail?




I think that it means it's a "can of worms".  Once the can was opened, all kinds of things are popping up.  I think it means a number of people are involved in questionable things...meaning more investigations - not "directly" linked to Kyron maybe - but "indirectly" because of discovery due to Kyron going missing.

Main thing I take from it is there is the number one issue - Kyron going missing.

Next, a lot of other "stuff" has surfaced.  This whole situation could be rife with characters all around the family and in the family itself that have been doing "stuff" LE has become interested in.

My-oh-my, this could go on "forever".

Noted, too, that they have plans for 4 more months. 

Not good.

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« Reply #376 on: September 15, 2010, 04:46:17 PM »

Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation
http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

Staton told the Portland Business Alliance Wednesday morning in downtown Portland that he was confident the case would be solved, but said the time had come to narrow the team of investigators to a small group of officials from a number of law enforcement agencies.

Thanks zippiddy! 

And hmmm.. the part I bolded above sounds like a nice polite, PC way of saying that they are 'scaling back' the investigation.  And that, IMO, (at least in some other cases) has translated to .. this case has gotten/is going .. cold.  And if that is true, how sad. 

All IMO. 


I agree with you Wyks.
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« Reply #377 on: September 15, 2010, 04:50:16 PM »

I am surprised that DeDe did not comment on JW.
I have no idea if TJones really got the info from DeDe, can't even guess, but as a woman who was unkindly exposed by him, she may be a much better person than I.  just sayin'

I saw one comment puzzler posted about JW:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1170793/pg63


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Jasons name change;
Dede said that Jason changed his name around Dec '04.
She said she did meet his father, but never talked about Jasons name change with him.


I, as well, take a huge grain of salt with his posts.

I take it with a hugh grain of salt, too.

But, IMO, posters are always curious and want to know things...so when a "possible" answer to some of the questions comes up, it's interesting to read those possibilities.

I'm not saying that Tom Jones talked to DeDe.  I don't know.  Some of his posts are interesting to mull over with respect to the case and DeDe and some of it does seem plausible (if the answers are really from DeDe). 

According to the posts, DeDe was not instructed by the GJ not to talk and she was not put under oath, but a video was taken that can be used in court.  Also, supposedly her attorney told her not to post on the internet. 

IMO, if Tom Jones is her cousin, then his posting on the internet about what they talked about neither goes against the GJ nor the attorney.

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« Reply #378 on: September 15, 2010, 04:51:44 PM »

Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation
http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

Staton told the Portland Business Alliance Wednesday morning in downtown Portland that he was confident the case would be solved, but said the time had come to narrow the team of investigators to a small group of officials from a number of law enforcement agencies.

Thanks zippiddy! 

And hmmm.. the part I bolded above sounds like a nice polite, PC way of saying that they are 'scaling back' the investigation.  And that, IMO, (at least in some other cases) has translated to .. this case has gotten/is going .. cold.  And if that is true, how sad. 

All IMO. 


I agree with you Wyks.

I agree, too.  Not good for Kyron, IMO.

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« Reply #379 on: September 15, 2010, 05:08:56 PM »

I am surprised that DeDe did not comment on JW.
I have no idea if TJones really got the info from DeDe, can't even guess, but as a woman who was unkindly exposed by him, she may be a much better person than I.  just sayin'

I saw one comment puzzler posted about JW:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1170793/pg63


TOM JONES
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9/15/2010 3:55 AM

Jasons name change;
Dede said that Jason changed his name around Dec '04.
She said she did meet his father, but never talked about Jasons name change with him.


I, as well, take a huge grain of salt with his posts.

I take it with a hugh grain of salt, too.

But, IMO, posters are always curious and want to know things...so when a "possible" answer to some of the questions comes up, it's interesting to read those possibilities.

I'm not saying that Tom Jones talked to DeDe.  I don't know.  Some of his posts are interesting to mull over with respect to the case and DeDe and some of it does seem plausible (if the answers are really from DeDe). 

According to the posts, DeDe was not instructed by the GJ not to talk and she was not put under oath, but a video was taken that can be used in court.  Also, supposedly her attorney told her not to post on the internet. 

IMO, if Tom Jones is her cousin, then his posting on the internet about what they talked about neither goes against the GJ nor the attorney.



Puzzler, don't get me wrong. I enjoyed reading the posts you pasted here and think there just may be something true in them. Wink

I just don't usually take posts from other forums and comments from posters on news sites too seriously. But well worth reading and thinking about!

Thanks for posting those here.

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