Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #28 9/12/2010 - 9/18/2010

[Tolerance]

I'm not suggesting any porn ring involving the family. I was just wondering if perhaps a child porn ring that maybe he was sold into. It has to be something terrible like that for the sheriff to say such a thing, imo. I don't know what else it could be.

Hi, Rose.
His words were disturbing, weren't they?!
If I am remembering correctly this is only the 2nd time this sheriff appeared on TV?  and both times he was obviously very emotional.  I think I remember him breaking down the first time I saw him speak and he nearly did so tonight.
It is frightening to think what his rather cryptic comment could mean.
At first I was hopeful after the NC, but now I am just confused and dreading what we may learn next. 
I see why your mind would take you to terrible thoughts.

[Tolerance]

Brandi, thank you for the map.

[klaasend]

Thanks Brandi

[Monkey King]

http://www.kgw.com/news/Sheriff-No-evidence-Kyron-Horman-is-not-alive-103003704.html

SNIPPED:

"I know I'm taking a long pause on that, I have to think through that answer. I think there are things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you, that you'll think about later on when it's over. We have a knowledge of things we don't want to know about ... of things we wish we didn't know," he added.

"will surprise you"
"think about later"
"things we dont want to know"
"things we wish we didnt know"

Porn sex ring- would that surprise us? No.

Human trafficking? No.

Kidnapping people for body parts? Yes, that would surprise/shock/horrify me.  That would be something I would think about for a long time. 

[no rose colored glasses]

I'm not suggesting any porn ring involving the family. I was just wondering if perhaps a child porn ring that maybe he was sold into. It has to be something terrible like that for the sheriff to say such a thing, imo. I don't know what else it could be.

Hi, Rose.
His words were disturbing, weren't they?!
If I am remembering correctly this is only the 2nd time this sheriff appeared on TV?  and both times he was obviously very emotional.  I think I remember him breaking down the first time I saw him speak and he nearly did so tonight.
It is frightening to think what his rather cryptic comment could mean.
At first I was hopeful after the NC, but now I am just confused and dreading what we may learn next. 
I see why your mind would take you to terrible thoughts.

It sure appears that way, very cryptic and not really sure what to think about what he all had to say.

[Nana29]

I'm saying this for all of the Terri supporters. 

There is no way LE or the court system would allow Kaine to have custody of Kiara if they suspected that Kiane was in any way involved in child porn. 

Ya got that right!

[Monkey King]

<snipped>

Whatever it is, it seems to involve several areas according to the statement:

"He emphasized that they were not scaling back or moving to a cold-case type investigation. The FBI would remain active, along with Port of Portland Police, Portland Police, Fairview and Troutdale departments. Staton added that Multnomah County would play about a 30 percent role."

I'm not sure of Fairview, does anyone have a map they can illustrate these areas?

Are all these areas on the water?

Sorry for the large image, but didn't think it would show up well enough smaller.

Mention of Port of Portland Police makes me think they believe something happened on the water.

Thank you, Brandi.

[Nana29]

Port of Portland could also cover the airport...

[Terri]

I have no doubts Terri involved.  What I cannot wrap my mind around is Kyron and a porn or sex situation.  I am not naive, and I know there are these types of people, but my mind refuses to accept anyone can do such a thing to a child they have raised, or even know.

With the recent cases of Shaniya and Sandra Cantu there is no way to deny this is a very real possibility.  I feel schizophrenic, I KNOW but I cannot beleive.

Terri

[Bearlyhere]

I'm saying this for all of the Terri supporters. 

There is no way LE or the court system would allow Kaine to have custody of Kiara if they suspected that Kiane was in any way involved in child porn. 

Of course.

[Brandi]

Port of Portland could also cover the airport...

Thanks. Didn't know that. So it covers both.

[5150monkey]

After listening to the MCSO update tonight I'm getting a weird monkeysense tingle.
I really think that the list of agencies involved is telling.  (Fairview is approx 14 miles north/east of Portland.)  The two that stand out the most, is the FBI and Port of Portland Police.

Ya'all have discussed trafficking, and seeing these two particular agencies left after the cut, well it really gives credence to that thought process.
 
It's my experience that large ungainly investigations can get unwieldy.  The paring down is going to enable them to move forward at a faster pace. (you really can have to many chefs in the kitchen!)

There is very little that can "get to" law enforcement officers faster/harder than crimes involving children.  They will run down the leads and the people involved in this type of crime, and setting aside their horror, pain and revulsion, will build a case that has no holes.   

To all the pedophiles/traffickers  -  just give it up now and go tell what you know.  Maybe they'll go easier on you.  (But I really doubt it.)

[Brandi]

Port of Portland could also cover the airport...

Thanks. Didn't know that. So it covers both.

Not sure it covers both. Seems they work primarily at the air ports.

Full operation of the Port of Portland Police Department at Portland International Airport began in 1957. Until that time, officers were commissioned through local police departments in the Portland metropolitan area.

Today, Port of Portland police officers have statewide authority, with the majority of their enforcement activities directed toward airport properties.

http://www.portofportland.com/Police_Fact_Sheet.aspx

[Nana29]

Port of Portland could also cover the airport...

Thanks. Didn't know that. So it covers both.

Not sure it covers both. Seems they work primarily at the air ports.

Full operation of the Port of Portland Police Department at Portland International Airport began in 1957. Until that time, officers were commissioned through local police departments in the Portland metropolitan area.

Today, Port of Portland police officers have statewide authority, with the majority of their enforcement activities directed toward airport properties.

http://www.portofportland.com/Police_Fact_Sheet.aspx

The  reason I said that was having been raised in the Seattle area...(I am now a/an WashedOregonian)
I remembered the Port of Seattle Police is actually at Sea Tac airport. Did not know they had statewide authority though. 

[monchichi]

<snipped>

Whatever it is, it seems to involve several areas according to the statement:

"He emphasized that they were not scaling back or moving to a cold-case type investigation. The FBI would remain active, along with Port of Portland Police, Portland Police, Fairview and Troutdale departments. Staton added that Multnomah County would play about a 30 percent role."

I'm not sure of Fairview, does anyone have a map they can illustrate these areas?

Are all these areas on the water?

Sorry for the large image, but didn't think it would show up well enough smaller.

Mention of Port of Portland Police makes me think they believe something happened on the water.

Thank you, Brandi.

The Port of Portland Police include the airport!

[monchichi]

<snipped>

Whatever it is, it seems to involve several areas according to the statement:

"He emphasized that they were not scaling back or moving to a cold-case type investigation. The FBI would remain active, along with Port of Portland Police, Portland Police, Fairview and Troutdale departments. Staton added that Multnomah County would play about a 30 percent role."

I'm not sure of Fairview, does anyone have a map they can illustrate these areas?

Are all these areas on the water?

Sorry for the large image, but didn't think it would show up well enough smaller.

Mention of Port of Portland Police makes me think they believe something happened on the water.

Thank you, Brandi.

The Port of Portland Police include the airport!

Sorry, I just saw where other people are posting the same info. 

[5150monkey]

HI MONKEYS!!
Longer version of the Sheriff's news conference, if you haven't seen it yet!


http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/09/highlights_of_news_conference.html

[5150monkey]

From Oregon Live article:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/kyron_horman_case_as_costs_top.html

Horman disappeared June 4 from Skyline School during a morning science fair. No one has been arrested or even named a person of interest though Terri Moulton Horman, Horman’s stepmother, remains a focus of the investigation.

-- Helen Jung and Lynne Terry

[zippiddy_doo_daw]

After listening to the MCSO update tonight I'm getting a weird monkeysense tingle.
I really think that the list of agencies involved is telling.  (Fairview is approx 14 miles north/east of Portland.)  The two that stand out the most, is the FBI and Port of Portland Police.

Ya'all have discussed trafficking, and seeing these two particular agencies left after the cut, well it really gives credence to that thought process.
 
It's my experience that large ungainly investigations can get unwieldy.  The paring down is going to enable them to move forward at a faster pace. (you really can have to many chefs in the kitchen!)

There is very little that can "get to" law enforcement officers faster/harder than crimes involving children.  They will run down the leads and the people involved in this type of crime, and setting aside their horror, pain and revulsion, will build a case that has no holes.   

To all the pedophiles/traffickers  -  just give it up now and go tell what you know.  Maybe they'll go easier on you.  (But I really doubt it.)

Totally agree with you 5150 - I think the investigation needed this change also - It was mentioned at an earlier meeting by Stanton and all h3ll broke loose  so he had to address it publically.  I don't see this move being negative at all... quite the opposite, IMO.

[klaasend]

HI MONKEYS!!
Longer version of the Sheriff's news conference, if you haven't seen it yet!


http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/09/highlights_of_news_conference.html

Thanks!

If you want nothing else, watch the very end of this PC.  It's horribly sad.